So, as a heads up to the mods, if you absolutely feel this must go in tactics go ahead and move it, I won't mind. I just didn't want to post this kind of thread over there and have people sperg out the moment they realized I don't care if these lists are 100% optimized.

So with that out of the way, I've been getting a bit bored lately playing my IG. I've been using roughly the same list for about 3 months now and it's getting a bit boring as I've run into a wall with it and want to start fresh. In the meantime, I need something to get me thinking about how to use my codex better and so I had an idea. Ask dakka for ideas on constraints and or handicaps for me to play with. Can be simple as "cannot take meltaguns" to "list must have less than 30% of it's points in troops". I'm just looking for motivation to get me to think outside the box and try things I normally wouldn't take. Yes, I know many of these games will end horribly. Yes, I know I will not be winning tourneys anytime soon. No, I don't care. Constraints can be as silly or as silly as you want. The best ones I will use, and who knows, maybe even post a battle report. I may combine several small restraints as well if it feels like it'd be more interesting. Or if you want to be lazy, you can post an odd idea for a list that you had in the past and I'll take it for a spin.

I'm up for pretty much anything. I've got more infantry than sense, several leman russes (I believe at least 6 at last count) and 5 chimeras, 2 of which can sub in as artillery. I also picked up a valkyrie recently, so that's there too. To top it off, I also have around 1-1.5k in orks that I could use for added fun, with roughly 60 boyz, a battlewagon, some bikers, some lootas, 3 deff koptas, a boss, a big mek, and a pack of regular nobs.

Otherwise you can just post funny lists you've used in the past and how they did I guess This is a thread mainly for fun (hence why it's not in tactics) so have fun with it guys. Let's not get bogged down in stupid arguments over units or anything.

 MrMoustaffa wrote:
So, as a heads up to the mods, if you absolutely feel this must go in tactics go ahead and move it, I won't mind. I just didn't want to post this kind of thread over there and have people sperg out the moment they realized I don't care if these lists are 100% optimized.

So with that out of the way, I've been getting a bit bored lately playing my IG. I've been using roughly the same list for about 3 months now and it's getting a bit boring as I've run into a wall with it and want to start fresh. In the meantime, I need something to get me thinking about how to use my codex better and so I had an idea. Ask dakka for ideas on constraints and or handicaps for me to play with. Can be simple as "cannot take meltaguns" to "list must have less than 30% of it's points in troops". I'm just looking for motivation to get me to think outside the box and try things I normally wouldn't take. Yes, I know many of these games will end horribly. Yes, I know I will not be winning tourneys anytime soon. No, I don't care. Constraints can be as silly or as silly as you want. The best ones I will use, and who knows, maybe even post a battle report. I may combine several small restraints as well if it feels like it'd be more interesting. Or if you want to be lazy, you can post an odd idea for a list that you had in the past and I'll take it for a spin.

I'm up for pretty much anything. I've got more infantry than sense, several leman russes (I believe at least 6 at last count) and 5 chimeras, 2 of which can sub in as artillery. I also picked up a valkyrie recently, so that's there too. To top it off, I also have around 1-1.5k in orks that I could use for added fun, with roughly 60 boyz, a battlewagon, some bikers, some lootas, 3 deff koptas, a boss, a big mek, and a pack of regular nobs.

Otherwise you can just post funny lists you've used in the past and how they did I guess This is a thread mainly for fun (hence why it's not in tactics) so have fun with it guys. Let's not get bogged down in stupid arguments over units or anything.

Sweet.

Ally in a Biker boss and a 5 Nob Bike squad. It should your normal list a significant change with just the pts adjustments you have to make

I think you have enough tanks for this.
Here's one I've tried. Two conditions:

1)Your troops must be vetran squads.
2) You may not take a chimera as a dedicated transport for vetran squads.

go.

Vulture gunship with twin-linked punisher cannons. Roll 20 dice. Re-roll anything that somehow misses. Watch unit disappear, and smile.

 kestril wrote:
I think you have enough tanks for this.
Here's one I've tried. Two conditions:

1)Your troops must be vetran squads.
2) You may not take a chimera as a dedicated transport for vetran squads.

go.

Hope to get big guns never tire, take 9 LRBT's and try to get them immobilzed around the obj so you can leave them behind

full infantry list!, no tanks, transports, or flyers

4 posts in and this is already working great.

Love how the first suggestion was nob bikers

Kestril's idea is interesting, I may try that one.

One final question, am I allowed to put them in vendettas/valks? (because if no then the vendetta gets to be a vulture with punisher cannons haha)

EDIT: Jarl, I took a 2k list with that stipulation to a tourney once as a joke, let me see if I can find it. It was hilarious.

FOUND IT. As a heads up, the fact that penal legion was in this list should clue you in that it was more for just kicks and giggles. Best part? Got 5th place with this. Yes, I'm as confused as you.

 MrMoustaffa wrote:


One final question, am I allowed to put them in vendettas/valks? (because if no then the vendetta gets to be a vulture with punisher cannons haha)

Sure. I'm eager to see what you come up with.

1.) Bring a list with 30 stormtroopers. It's a blast.

2.) Bring a list with 3 deathstrikes. You may not take an aegis.

3.) Bring a list where the only heavy weapon you can take is heavy bolters. This includes hull and sponson weapons. Bonus points for at least one bolter boat punisher.

4.) Bring a mech list where all chimeras are in the 2x heavy flamer loadout. Stubbers are okay, but no hunter-killers.

5.) Bring Al'Rahem and have him outflank with at least two eviscerator priests.

6.) Bring a list where both HQ choices are primaris psykers.

7.) Bring a foot horde wherein you have as many SWSs as PISs.

8.) Bring a list with 6 hellhounds (or more). 'Nuff said.

9.) Bring a list with at LEAST 3 punishers. Make sure to bring enough dice.

10.) Add Nork to your CCS. Do not remove him until he gets at least one kill with Heoric Sacrifice. Think of him as your norkergiest.

That should keep you busy for awhile.

MY Personal list that i take , Undefeated thus far - just for ideas ( Local Meta is Space Marines and Necrons )


Cadian 229th Mobile Infantry B Company


HQ - Company Command Squad
Plasma Pistol
x2 Plasma Guns
95 Points


Troops - Veteran Squad
x2 Plasma Guns Chimera
100 Points 55 Points
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Veteran Squad
x2 Plasma Guns Chimera
100 Points 55 Points

Veteran Squad
x2 Plasma Guns Chimera
100 Points 55 Points


Veteran Squad Chimera
x1 Missile Launcher 55 Points
85 Points

Veteran Squad Chimera
x1 Missile Launcher 55 Points


Heavy Support - Leman Russ Battle Tank
forward Lascannon
Plasma Sponsons
205 Points

Leman Russ Battle Tank
Forward lascannon
Plasma Sponsons
205 Points

Manticore
160 Points

Fast Attack - Vendetta Gunship-130 Points

Scout Sentinal -Lascannon
50 Points
Scout Sentinal -Lascannon
50 Points


Elites- Kasrkin Stormtroopers
x2 Plasma Guns
195 Points

Guardsmen Marbo
65 Points


Fortifacations- Ageis Defensive Line
Quad Gun
100 Points


Total - 2000 Points

 Ailaros wrote:
9.) Bring a list with at LEAST 3 punishers. Make sure to bring enough dice.

HQ:
CCS with no upgrades

Troops:
Veterans with no upgrades
Veterans with no upgrades

Elite:
Marbo

Fast:
Vulture with TL punisher cannons
Vulture with TL punisher cannons
Vulture with TL punisher cannons

Heavy:
LR Punisher with HB sponsons x3
LR Punisher with HB sponsons x3
LR Punisher with HB sponsons x2, LR Punisher

Total: 2500 points.


Does it suck? Yes. Will it be the most awesome list ever? Yes.

Not...

... enough....

S5...

The funny thing is that with a little tweaking (getting some lascannon/MMs for the punishers or switching some vultures to vendettas), you could actually make a pretty decent list out of something like this.

kestril wrote:

 MrMoustaffa wrote:


One final question, am I allowed to put them in vendettas/valks? (because if no then the vendetta gets to be a vulture with punisher cannons haha)

Sure. I'm eager to see what you come up with.

First draft attempt. That's roughly 80 or so carapace armored infantry, and harker's "My cover save is better than yours" squad. Terrible list, but at least it'll play quickly I look forward to trying this one. With my luck, I'll end up playing against DE or Flamer spam daemons (happened to me the first and only time I tried duravets)

Ailaros wrote:1.) Bring a list with 30 stormtroopers. It's a blast.

2.) Bring a list with 3 deathstrikes. You may not take an aegis. Done this, except I took 5 in a "not apocalypse" game, was hilarious

3.) Bring a list where the only heavy weapon you can take is heavy bolters. This includes hull and sponson weapons. Bonus points for at least one bolter boat punisher. You're an evil, evil man

4.) Bring a mech list where all chimeras are in the 2x heavy flamer loadout. Stubbers are okay, but no hunter-killers.

5.) Bring Al'Rahem and have him outflank with at least two eviscerator priests.

6.) Bring a list where both HQ choices are primaris psykers.

7.) Bring a foot horde wherein you have as many SWSs as PISs.

8.) Bring a list with 6 hellhounds (or more). 'Nuff said.

9.) Bring a list with at LEAST 3 punishers. Make sure to bring enough dice. At least 3? Pff, need at least 6 for a real man's list

10.) Add Nork to your CCS. Do not remove him until he gets at least one kill with Heoric Sacrifice. Think of him as your norkergiest. Dammit now I really want to do this. "Pff, you're losing? I'm playing with a 110pt handicap!"

That should keep you busy for awhile.

Also, Kaskrin, that list hurt my brain. It goes against everything I've ever been taught as an IG player....

I also really want to try it

This thread is awesome; I just started trying out the Armoured Company as I was tired of my IG all-comers list.

I'd recommend giving those rules a spin for something different; a wall of Russes has lots of weaknesses, but has a great psychological impact on your opponent. Especially Eldar and their puny AV12.

My personal list has every Russ variant except the Annihilator, Eradicator and Conquerer, and not a single scoring unit in the whole damned army!

It includes one Exterminator CCT as HQ with every upgrade points can buy

1 Commissar Tank - Vanquisher, Elite 1, "beast hunter" shells for annoying my mate with a 3 trygon list.

Stormtroopers with 2x plasma in an outflanking Chimera Elite 2 (Didn't see that one coming eh? AC SS squads in Chimeras can do that)

Troops consist of every other tank I own;

2x Standard Russ, both with HB sponsons, one with a hull HB and the other Lascannon (kind of worthless now that lumbering behemoth is gone, plastic cement means they ain't coming off)

1 Executioner without any upgrades

1 demolisher with 2 sponson multi-meltas (again, victim of LB)

Punisher bolter boat with storm bolter on top, for 31 shots total

FA is 2x Scout Sentinel with ML and HK missile, 1 Bane Wolf and a Vendetta.

With all upgrades (not all listed here) it's about 1997, and extremely amusing to play.

Unless the enemy is BA and just deep strikes melta squads behind the line of tanks. That's not so much fun, but still amusing.

MrMoustaffa wrote:You're an evil, evil man

Oh, come now, you still have access to meltaguns/bombs/close combat/grenades/main guns for anti-tank. I mean, you can still take a medusa, you just can't outfit it with a heavy flamer.

As for the Norkergeist, have you ever played TF2? It would be like pulling out the samurai sword.

 Kasrkin229 wrote:

Leman Russ Battle Tank
Forward lascannon
Plasma Sponsons

Is that a pre-faq list? It would now be unable to fire both the main gun and the sponsons in the same turn, as ordnance forces snap fire and blasts can't snap fire.

My suggestion is mass respawning conscripts, with Al'rahem outflanking conscripts. So probably 2 platoons with 50 each, Chenkov and Al'Rahem, with 4 units of penal legion to add more fun. Sprinkle in weapon upgrades for the platoons to take out armour, and maybe some STs or sentinels too.

Or orks with ABG allies. An ork commissar tank would be fun.

 Peregrine wrote:

 Ailaros wrote:
9.) Bring a list with at LEAST 3 punishers. Make sure to bring enough dice.

HQ:
CCS with no upgrades

Troops:
Veterans with no upgrades
Veterans with no upgrades

Elite:
Marbo

Fast:
Vulture with TL punisher cannons
Vulture with TL punisher cannons
Vulture with TL punisher cannons

Heavy:
LR Punisher with HB sponsons x3
LR Punisher with HB sponsons x3
LR Punisher with HB sponsons x2, LR Punisher

Total: 2500 points.


Does it suck? Yes. Will it be the most awesome list ever? Yes.

Every time I look at that list I hear a person saying "scoring? Whats that? Oh you mean things that arent guns? Why would I take those? Guardsmen can't take punisher cannons! You must really like losing if you're taking things like 'troops' and 'scoring units' "

That initial shooting phase would take an hour to resolve too haha.

*Also. I'm working on some lists to fit the constraints handed out so far, but lists like this don't exactly write themselves overnight

1) Play the Elysian list.

Friggin tough, but makes you a much better Guard player.

2) Play the following list. Win a game with it. ???? Profit! (And earn the respect of every guard player ever just at the utterance of your name.


HQ:
1xLordComm
1xPrimaris

Elite:
1xStormtrooper squad
1x Ratling squad
1xOgryn Squad

Troops:
1xPCS
2xIS
1xHWS
1xSWS
1xConscript Squad
1xVeteran Squad
1xPenal Legion

FA:
1xSentinel (Armored/Scout) squad
1xHellhound Variant
1xValkyrie Variant

Heavy:
1xLeman Russ Variant
1xArtillery Variant
1xManticore/Deathstrike

Viola; you're the man if you pull this off.

@thecaptain, does it count as a win if I play another IG player and his head just explodes in disbelief?

Edit: Holy crap captain this is going to be difficult. The base cost of all this crap comes up to like 1500pts, I have almost no pts leftover for upgrades

 MrMoustaffa wrote:
@thecaptain, does it count as a win if I play another IG player and his head just explodes in disbelief?

Opponent rendered incapable of carrying on with the match due to your army composition?

-BGB Section "Victory Conditions", subsection "Opponent incapacitation", sub-subjection "Cranial damage/combustion/explosion".

Technical Victory: MrMoustaffa wins.

Well there was this one idea I once toyed with but never actually made it come true. The point was "laser" only. So basically the only ranged weapons you are allowed to have in the army are:

Laspistol
Lasgun
Hot-Shot laspistol
Hot-Shot lasgun
Lascannon
Multi-Laser

So basically sentinels and vendettas would be the only vehicles possible to use in the list and comissars have bolt pistols so they would be a banned choice also.

There is also naturally the good old "no special characters" restriction but that would be too easy... unless it is tied to the "laser" list.

Combat, infantry spam guard. There's nothing funnier than beating marines in combat with guard. (Literally no upgrades other than the occasional melta bomb.) Would also make a very interesting battle report against orks or 'nids

How about melee guard, every single unit you take as one purpose, getting your guard close enough to the enemy to swarm them in CC. I'm thinking huge blobs, Ogryns, etc.

Ok, so first of we have theCaptain's "take one of everything list". I had to make it at 2k because otherwise you can barely afford upgrades for anything. As for confidence in the list, I feel like Lt. Dan entering a kickboxing tournament. Will be a hilarious game though. I even took MORE ratlings and a deathstrike, so this will be one heck of a match Wish I could bring more Ogryn, but since I'll have to proxy them i wanted to keep them at a minimum. I would make an elysian list but have no access to their "codex" and only one valkyrie that I literally just got, so they're out (unless I can deepstrike platoons, in which case it will be my favorite list of all time)

This next one plays with a few smaller constraints combined. These are Ailaros's "all chimeras must have double heavy flamers", The Nork handicap, and assault IG. I was going to have the outflanking al'rahem platoon have the infantry outflank outside of their chimeras, using them as dirt cheap hell hound knockoffs while the infantry ran forward in an assault blob. Unfortunately, you can't do that, so now these are dirt cheap hellhounds with a meltagun and are able to score . While this list will probably fail horribly, the thought of a primaris pysker with biomancy and a priest in the conscript blob and another priest and a commissar in the 40 man infantry blob with Straken and all sorts of other shenanigans going on strikes me as amusing.

This one needs tweaking though. I feel like I could do something far funnier/awesome with the command squad. Maybe sack a priest to get the command squad Kell as well?

And then finally I would use Kaskrin's list, but the massive amount of proxying required to run that list would make it impossible for me. Anybody have some other cool ideas, or ideas on how to tweak those two lists a bit so they won't get curbstomped?

Straken, nork, two priests, and biomancy?

I want to see this beat something so badly.

... you know, and not get horribly gunned down by bolters or whatever before they get the chance.

That's what straken is there for, to attract all the fire so my opponent thinks they're a deathstar

Imperial Guard deathstar?

Well, this is far too silly.

The worst part is, I've seen a Yarrick led CCS deathstar, and it actually did annoyingly well.

Ooh I didnt think about Yarrick, I may try him instead of the uber CCS. Either way I need to do something. at the very leas I should probably add Marbo to that list instead. I dont know. I'll think of something before saturday though.

 MajorStoffer wrote:
Imperial Guard deathstar?

Yarrick + Straken + Nork + Kell + five eviscerator priests. So what if the unit costs 900+ points, USE IT.


(The only downside is that you could get two full FOCs of Vultures with punisher cannons for that many points, which would be far more awesome.)

I don't play guard but a funny thing my friend did was two Vet squads he called "GUARDSMEN WITH SHOTGUNS" they were some of his coolest models (Pig Iron I think) in his army. And they were two vet squads armed with shotguns. With a chimera each.

Der Kommissar's in town. Fit as many commissars as you possibly can into a list.

If you don't want to spice it up by playing a fluff based and accurate list (ie. Tanith first as forward sentries foot vets with flamers, snipers, and tread fethers, no armour), how about a dregs army?

HQ - Primaris Psyker
Elite - Ogryn and Ratlings
Troops - Penal troops
Fast - Rough Riders (biker gang, no lances)
Heavy - "basic" russes no upgrades, no more than 3. Or skip this for god mode.

 MrMoustaffa wrote:

kestril wrote:

 MrMoustaffa wrote:


One final question, am I allowed to put them in vendettas/valks? (because if no then the vendetta gets to be a vulture with punisher cannons haha)

Sure. I'm eager to see what you come up with.

First draft attempt. That's roughly 80 or so carapace armored infantry, and harker's "My cover save is better than yours" squad. Terrible list, but at least it'll play quickly I look forward to trying this one. With my luck, I'll end up playing against DE or Flamer spam daemons (happened to me the first and only time I tried duravets)

Spoiler:

+++ No Name (1850pts) +++
+++ 1850pt Imperial Guard 5th Ed (2009) Roster (Primary Detachment)) +++
+ HQ + (255pts)

* Company Command Squad (135pts): Carapace Armour, Lascannon, Master of Ordnance, Regimental Standard
* Company Commander
Close Combat Weapon, Laspistol


* Company Command Squad (120pts) :Carapace Armour, Lascannon, Regimental Standard
* Company Commander
Laspistol, Power Fist (warlord)

+ Elites + (425pts)
* x5 man Storm Trooper Squad (105pts) x2 melta

* x5 man Storm Trooper Squad (105pts) x2 melta

* x10 man Storm Trooper Squad (215pts) x2 plasma


+ Troops + (1040pts)

* Veteran Squad (160pts) (rides in vendetta): Demolitions, Grenadiers, 3x Meltagun, 6x Shotgun
* Veteran Sergeant
Close Combat Weapon, Shotgun

* Veteran Squad (220pts): Forward Sentries, Gunnery Sergeant Harker, Lascannon, 4x Lasgun, 3x Plasma Gun

* Veteran Squad (165pts): Grenadiers, Lascannon, 4x Lasgun, 3x Plasma Gun
* Veteran Sergeant
Close Combat Weapon, Shotgun

* Veteran Squad (165pts): Grenadiers, Lascannon, 4x Lasgun, 3x Plasma Gun
* Veteran Sergeant
Close Combat Weapon, Shotgun

* Veteran Squad (165pts): Grenadiers, Lascannon, 4x Lasgun, 3x Plasma Gun
* Veteran Sergeant
Close Combat Weapon, Shotgun

* Veteran Squad (165pts) : Grenadiers, Lascannon, 4x Lasgun, 3x Plasma Gun
* Veteran Sergeant
Close Combat Weapon, Shotgun


+ Fast Attack + (130pts)

* Vendetta Gunship Squadron (130pts)
* Vendetta
2 Twin-linked Lascannons

Interesting. I took the opposite route. I gave my vets the forward sentries upgrade and then stuck five or so LRBT on the board.. I also threw in two plasma CCSquads in chimeras.
The vets basically hid behind the tanks until they needed to shoot stuff, and by the end of the game two tanks and harker's squad were left on the board. Luckily, harker's squad was out of reach of my opponent and my opponent was fresh out of melta, so during the last few turns I got to watch my demolisher, well, demolish the last of my opponent's forces.

Anyways, I'm looking forward to you getting destroyed seeing how this list plays!


Edit: Another Idea:
2k. 6 deathstrikes. It's like Russian roulette with nukes.

 MrMoustaffa wrote:
I would make an elysian list but have no access to their "codex" and only one valkyrie that I literally just got, so they're out (unless I can deepstrike platoons, in which case it will be my favorite list of all time)

You totally can

It's friggin hilarious. With platoons reserve rolling at one, every time I DS a platoon, I hum "Its raining men"

 TheCaptain wrote:

 MrMoustaffa wrote:
I would make an elysian list but have no access to their "codex" and only one valkyrie that I literally just got, so they're out (unless I can deepstrike platoons, in which case it will be my favorite list of all time)

You totally can

It's friggin hilarious. With platoons reserve rolling at one, every time I DS a platoon, I hum "Its raining men"

Hallelujah!

I used to do that in planetstrike. There are only so many places that 50 men will fit without mishap though.

 TheCaptain wrote:

 MrMoustaffa wrote:
I would make an elysian list but have no access to their "codex" and only one valkyrie that I literally just got, so they're out (unless I can deepstrike platoons, in which case it will be my favorite list of all time)

You totally can

It's friggin hilarious. With platoons reserve rolling at one, every time I DS a platoon, I hum "Its raining men"

I... can... words...

you could try an imperial armor type deal. like play with an entirely different set of rules. though you could play one where you get yourself outnumbered and try to use that to win.

Do you own movement trays?



This is hilarious if you have movement trays to deal with the moving them up the field, otherwise don't even try it. The movement phase will last a couple hours.

Otherwise I second trying the forgeworld lists, if you don't mind forgeworld. They really are totally different armies (play style wise) just with mostly the same gear. Armored company and DKoK used to be really fun (not sure what IA1e2 did to them).

gh05tdemon wrote:you could try an imperial armor type deal. like play with an entirely different set of rules. though you could play one where you get yourself outnumbered and try to use that to win.

ansacs wrote:Do you own movement trays?

Spoiler:

1845

HQ (195pts)
Company Command Squad (195pts)
2x Bodyguard, Camo Cloaks, Colonel 'Iron Hand' Straken
Troops (1650pts)
Infantry Platoon (405pts)
Conscripts
40x Conscript, Send in the Next Wave!
Infantry Squad
Lascannon
Sergeant
Close Combat Weapon, Laspistol
Infantry Squad
Lascannon
Sergeant
Close Combat Weapon, Laspistol
Platoon Command Squad
Platoon Commander
Close Combat Weapon, Laspistol
Infantry Platoon (455pts)
Conscripts
40x Conscript, Send in the Next Wave!
Infantry Squad
Lascannon
Sergeant
Close Combat Weapon, Laspistol
Infantry Squad
Lascannon
Sergeant
Close Combat Weapon, Laspistol
Platoon Command Squad
Commander Chenkov
Infantry Platoon (405pts)
Conscripts
40x Conscript, Send in the Next Wave!
Infantry Squad
Lascannon
Sergeant
Close Combat Weapon, Laspistol
Infantry Squad
Lascannon
Sergeant
Close Combat Weapon, Laspistol
Platoon Command Squad
Platoon Commander
Close Combat Weapon, Laspistol
Infantry Platoon (385pts)
Conscripts
40x Conscript, Send in the Next Wave!
Infantry Squad
Autocannon
Sergeant
Close Combat Weapon, Laspistol
Infantry Squad
Autocannon
Sergeant
Close Combat Weapon, Laspistol
Platoon Command Squad
Platoon Commander
Close Combat Weapon, Laspistol

This is hilarious if you have movement trays to deal with the moving them up the field, otherwise don't even try it. The movement phase will last a couple hours.

Otherwise I second trying the forgeworld lists, if you don't mind forgeworld. They really are totally different armies (play style wise) just with mostly the same gear. Armored company and DKoK used to be really fun (not sure what IA1e2 did to them).

Don't mind Forgeworld one bit and would love to try it. Problem is, noone else at my store will.

plus my liscense expired so I can't drive in to the store to play, so no gaming this weekend :(

 Trickstick wrote:

 TheCaptain wrote:

 MrMoustaffa wrote:
I would make an elysian list but have no access to their "codex" and only one valkyrie that I literally just got, so they're out (unless I can deepstrike platoons, in which case it will be my favorite list of all time)

You totally can

It's friggin hilarious. With platoons reserve rolling at one, every time I DS a platoon, I hum "Its raining men"

Hallelujah!

I used to do that in planetstrike. There are only so many places that 50 men will fit without mishap though.

They still deep-strike as separate units; just reserve-rolled together.

 TheCaptain wrote:

 Trickstick wrote:

 TheCaptain wrote:

 MrMoustaffa wrote:
I would make an elysian list but have no access to their "codex" and only one valkyrie that I literally just got, so they're out (unless I can deepstrike platoons, in which case it will be my favorite list of all time)

You totally can

It's friggin hilarious. With platoons reserve rolling at one, every time I DS a platoon, I hum "Its raining men"

Hallelujah!

I used to do that in planetstrike. There are only so many places that 50 men will fit without mishap though.

They still deep-strike as separate units; just reserve-rolled together.

I meant that I used combined blobs in planetstrike, as you can deep strike codex platoons.

 Trickstick wrote:

I meant that I used combined blobs in planetstrike, as you can deep strike codex platoons.

Ermehgerd so many lasguns deep striking

lol.

Me: "All right, now I'm going to roll for my conscripts... all right, they landed on target"

*puts down 50 guardsmen into a tightly-packed circle*

You: "wait, how many points of guardsmen is that?"

Me: "200."

You: "Oh."

Me: "Okay, now I'm going to shoot at your devestators. Let's see, that's going to be 100 shots. Can I borrow some of your dice?"

You: "No."

Me: "okay, no biggies. Boy, to think that I have four more of these to deepstrike..."

You: "I quit."

I have been looking to find some more "fun" with my guard and am painting up some ogryn to run the following list:

HQ
Company Command Squad - Creed, Regimental Standard, Master of Ordnance
Primaris Psyker - Force Axe
Priest - Eviscerator, Shotgun

ELITES
Stormtroopers x 5 - 2 x Meltagun
Ogryn x 3 - Chimera - Hull Heavy Flamer
Marbo

TROOPS
Infantry Platoon
Platoon Command
Infantry Squad #1 - Autocannon, Power Axe
Infantry Squad #2 - Autocannon, Power Axe
Heavy Weapon Squad - 3 x Lascannons
Heavy Weapon Squad - 3 x Lascannons
Veteran Squad - Harker, 3 x Flamer, Chimera - Hull Heavy Flamer
Penal Legion Squad

FAST ATTACK
Scout Sentinels x 2
Scout Sentinels x 2

HEAVY SUPPORT
Leman Russ - Hull Heavy Bolter
Griffon - Hull Heavy Flamer
Griffon - Hull Heavy Flamer

FORTIFICATIONS
Aegis Defence Line – Icarus Lascannon
1850pts

Creed hunkers down with some guns and waits for the reserves.

Primaris outflanks with the ogryn (hopefully with psychic shriek & endurance). Priest outflanks with the penal legion. Harker & the Sentinels outflank to give support. The stormies and marbo deep strike.

I think I will enjoy this list, even if I don't win a lot :-)

Bring a list with six full squads of Ogryn


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And rough riders

 TheAngrySquig wrote:
Bring a list with six full squads of Ogryn


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And rough riders

And penal legion.

Take as many ogryns and penal legion as possible

 Ailaros wrote:
lol.

Me: "All right, now I'm going to roll for my conscripts... all right, they landed on target"

*puts down 50 guardsmen into a tightly-packed circle*

You: "wait, how many points of guardsmen is that?"

Me: "200."

You: "Oh."

Me: "Okay, now I'm going to shoot at your devestators. Let's see, that's going to be 100 shots. Can I borrow some of your dice?"

You: "No."

Me: "okay, no biggies. Boy, to think that I have four more of these to deepstrike..."

You: "I quit."

I did something akin to this at a tournament. You could elect for any non vehicle unit to deepstrike in one mission. Naturally, I decided to deepstrike powerblobs. The other IG player was running a mass stormtrooper army (we also had unlimited elite slots) and it was just hilarious. Every blob landed on target, in the middle of his army. Straken killed a manticore with a plasma pistol (he deepstruck as well)

I got utterly destroyed that game, but my god that was one of the funniest things I've ever seen. "You're deepstriking WHAT!?!??!"

Can't have any 5+ save in your army.

 Bobthehero wrote:
Can't have any 5+ save in your army.

5+ Invulns?

 TheCaptain wrote:

 Bobthehero wrote:
Can't have any 5+ save in your army.

5+ Invulns?

Yeah because if invulns count we couldn't take any of our HQ choices, as they all have +5 invulns

Also, if anybody else wants to do this, we could all try to get in games this next weekend, and post up batreps of the results. Funniest game/victory wins bragging rights!

Use any combination of restrictions you want. Bonus points for the harder the matchup is (for example, you brought 30 ratlings against a necron bakery list)

Could be fun. I'm in (obviously) so if anybody else wants to join in let me know.

 MrMoustaffa wrote:
Could be fun. I'm in (obviously) so if anybody else wants to join in let me know.

Welp. You've found my weakness; can never refuse a challenge.

Hit me with a stupid, ridiculous, silly list Dakka. I'll give it the 'ole college try.

TheCaptain wrote:can never refuse a challenge. I'll give it the 'ole college try.

Alright...

- You can still use fliers, but they have to be valkyries. You may not give them any upgrades.

- You must take at least one infantry platoon. All units in the platoon must start the game deployed in a flier. You may not take vets, and any infantry unit that can take a chimera must take one.

- Take a techpriest with at least one servitor. Embark them in a vendetta. Laugh maniacally ever time your vendetta fixes itself mid-air.

- Deploy a full-sized unit of ratlings in your opponent's deployment zone with a flier. The ratlings must kill at least a single model after disembarking for it to count.

- Take Yarrick and fly him on alone (as if the vendetta or valkyrie were his own dedicated transport). Yarrick must beat up a unit in close combat after disembarking to count.

- Place a single flier into ongoing reserves 4 times in a single game.

Honestly, I'd like to see a little more creativity here. Simply naming a random unit and saying "use it" isn't very helpful, you need to think of something cool and say WHY it would be fun. For example: ratlings. WHY ratlings? At least come up with some kind of funny space hobbit theme, don't just say "ratlings and deathstrikes".

 Ailaros wrote:
- Place a single flier into ongoing reserves 4 times in a single game.

Not possible, since you can't leave the table as soon as you arrive (the wording on leaving the table suggests that it's only in the movement phase, not when moving flat out). So:

Turn 1: nothing.
Turn 2: arrive.
Turn 3: depart #1.
Turn 4: arrive.
Turn 5: depart #2.
Turn 6: arrive.
Turn 7: depart #3.

So even if you don't fail a reserve roll and the game goes the full seven turns it's still not possible.

You can arrive and depart on the same turn.

 Ailaros wrote:
You can arrive and depart on the same turn.

Look at the part about arriving from reserves: you can't allow your move onto the table to carry you off again. And the rules for leaving the table refer to a zoom move, which arguably does not include a flat out move.

And in any case, even if you allow leaving the table with a flat out move, that's a boring suggestion, not a fun one. All it means is that you arrive and then immediately leave, and keep your flyer sitting in reserve instead of flying around the table doing fun things.

 Ailaros wrote:

TheCaptain wrote:can never refuse a challenge. I'll give it the 'ole college try.

Alright...

- You can still use fliers, but they have to be valkyries. You may not give them any upgrades.

- You must take at least one infantry platoon. All units in the platoon must start the game deployed in a flier. You may not take vets, and any infantry unit that can take a chimera must take one.

- Take a techpriest with at least one servitor. Embark them in a vendetta. Laugh maniacally ever time your vendetta fixes itself mid-air.

- Deploy a full-sized unit of ratlings in your opponent's deployment zone with a flier. The ratlings must kill at least a single model after disembarking for it to count.

- Take Yarrick and fly him on alone (as if the vendetta or valkyrie were his own dedicated transport). Yarrick must beat up a unit in close combat after disembarking to count.

- Place a single flier into ongoing reserves 4 times in a single game.

So:

Yarrick
+
Techpriest
-2xServitor
-Vendetta
-390

PCS
-Powerfist
-4xFlamer
-Valkyrie
-150

IS
-Powersword
-Meltagun
-Valkyrie
-160

IS
-Powersword
-Meltagun
-Valkyrie
-160

10xRatlings
-Valkyrie
-200

Penal Legion
-80

Marbo
-65

So 1250.

Being the TFG that I am; my skin is crawling.

But it should be interesting.

Anyone have another? I'll take one more interesting one.

 TheCaptain wrote:
Anyone have another? I'll take one more interesting one.

I want to see the maximum punisher cannon list. You love punisher Vultures, so do it! As many punisher cannons as you can fit into a single game.

(Bonus points for taking double FOC and 6x Vultures. Double bonus points for taking armored battlegroup allies with Vulture squadrons. In a double FOC game that's 12 of the most awesome flyer in the game.)

 Peregrine wrote:
Double bonus points for taking armored battlegroup allies with Vulture squadrons.

You did not just suggest to me that the ABG can take Vulture SQUARDRONS...

I...air...breathing...

 TheCaptain wrote:

 Peregrine wrote:
Double bonus points for taking armored battlegroup allies with Vulture squadrons.

You did not just suggest to me that the ABG can take Vulture SQUARDRONS...

I...air...breathing...

Sadly the squadron is a 0-1 choice, but you can take a squadron of 1-3 Vultures or 1-3 Vendettas. But in your case this just means you play IG as your main army and add the ABG as allies with only 0-1 fast attack choice anyway.

You're going to hate me for this captain... but that list only has 1 troops choice

How about using Gazkhull and Yarrick in one list? Just for fun. Those two would love it to team up to beat the crap out of another opponent.

 MrMoustaffa wrote:
You're going to hate me for this captain... but that list only has 1 troops choice

Oh yeah! Forgot to type in the Penal Legion. Fixed.

 TheCaptain wrote:

 MrMoustaffa wrote:
You're going to hate me for this captain... but that list only has 1 troops choice

Oh yeah! Forgot to type in the Penal Legion. Fixed.

Now there's a sentence you dont hear everyday

 Bobthehero wrote:
Can't have any 5+ save in your army.

Armor saves, that is.

Ok. So, your regiment has been unlucky to be issued all the stuff that the Departmento Munitorum has built or requested. No regiment wanted it, so you got the short straw and have to take it.

-Elite slots can only be full units of Ratlings or Ogryns
-Troops may be Penal Legions or Vet Squads (You may only take 2 Vet Squads and they can't have Chimeras. Those are too useful. Oh, and the only SW they can have is a Grenade Launcher)
-Your HQ MAY be a CCS, but it can't take any upgrades EXCEPT 1 Special Weapon. That Special Weapon must be a Grenade Launcher.
-FA can only be Rough Riders or Scout Sentinels. Same rules apply, only 1 SW may be taken per unit (So if 3 SS, only 1 can have something besides a Multi-Laser)
-HS can only be Deathstrikes. You may have 1 LR, but it must be a Vanquisher. Pask is allowed (give you some slack).
-However, units that can have a Heavy Weapon (besides Platoons as they aren't allowed) can take one but it must be a Mortar or HB

Have fun.


OR Multi-Laser spam (ALA C.S. Goto)
-Must try to fit as many Multi-Lasers in your list as possible. All units are permitted, but you can't take any special or heavy weapons until you run out of spots to put Multi-Lasers.

Well, I wasn't assuming that you'd need to do ALL of those things in the same list.

More like a series of challenges.

 Ailaros wrote:
Well, I wasn't assuming that you'd need to do ALL of those things in the same list.

More like a series of challenges.

Deh ah look lak a wee lass, boy?

But really; I have enough flyers, it could be funny to field the worst list in history and still win.

Or lose horribly.

Nah. I plan on winning.

Worst case scenario, I get my butt kicked and laughed out of my lovely store. But I'll be able to say I've used Ratlings, Naked Valks, Yarrick, and Penal Legions, so I consider those perspectives improvements in my skill as a player.

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 MrMoustaffa wrote:

 TheCaptain wrote:


Oh yeah! Forgot to type in the Penal Legion. Fixed.

Now there's a sentence you dont hear everyday

I honestly looked at the post for a good couple minutes before hitting submit, just glancing back at my codex thinking "God...am I about to say this?"

Oooo idea.

Make at least half of your army SITNW Guard Conscripts. For Mother Russia!

ALL my IG lists are heavily themed - it's surprising what you can come up with that actually works.

Try a Penal Legion. All your troops are Legionnaires - only old model tanks as support (no high tech gizmos). Maybe Penal Ogryns.

Or use the Armoured Company list - it'll certainly be different.

All I know is that if i see a thread titled "Why does everybody say ig is good?" and its about a guy who curbstomped a bunch of these wacky lists, my heart may shut down from how hard I'll be laughing.

Also, for the Elysians list, can you deepstrike combined squads for platoons? Because I'm tempted to ask what 50 deepstriking guardsmen looks like and what gear they would take. Everything deepstrikes, no vets. It would quite literally be raining men

While we're talking Forgeworld, is there anything funny you can do with DKoK and the Armored Battlegroup? I'm not very familiar with them.

DKoK?

Fling over 200 templates every turn, if you have the fund for it.

That or massive hades breaching drill suprise.

 MrMoustaffa wrote:

Also, for the Elysians list, can you deepstrike combined squads for platoons? Because I'm tempted to ask what 50 deepstriking guardsmen looks like and what gear they would take. Everything deepstrikes, no vets. It would quite literally be raining men

Yessir you can. It's...a thing of beauty.

Except they can't take heavy weapons.

Too cool for that stuff.

Here's an idea for you to toy around with.

In your list, you have 2 platoons of special weapons (sergeants have power axes) blob, a company command squad with Nork (like Ailaros's first page idea) , and 3 Leman Russes. That's the primary detachment.

The Allied detachment is an Ork Warboss (with a power klaw and cybork body), a 10-man unit of Nobs for the elites choice (with power klaws and painboy and cybork), and an identical nob unit for troops. On top of that, add a 30 man rokkit blob of 'Ard Boyz (add a nob with PK), and either a deff dread or killa kans.

 MrMoustaffa wrote:
While we're talking Forgeworld, is there anything funny you can do with DKoK and the Armored Battlegroup? I'm not very familiar with them.

You could do an open topped force with ABG. Salamanders, vets in centaurs, tauros/sentinels and artillery. You could take techpriests in trojans for elites, although they are not open-topped and just av10. Or 5 leman russ conquerors with augur shells, pretty much a long range scarab force. Backed up by more conquerors. Fast but pretty rubbish.

Take only hellhounds as your vehicles

 Peregrine wrote:
Honestly, I'd like to see a little more creativity here. Simply naming a random unit and saying "use it" isn't very helpful, you need to think of something cool and say WHY it would be fun. For example: ratlings. WHY ratlings? At least come up with some kind of funny space hobbit theme, don't just say "ratlings and deathstrikes".

Quoted because it needs saying again. Stop spamming comments of the form "X random unit" with no explanation for WHY it is a fun constraint.

 Peregrine wrote:

 Peregrine wrote:
Honestly, I'd like to see a little more creativity here. Simply naming a random unit and saying "use it" isn't very helpful, you need to think of something cool and say WHY it would be fun. For example: ratlings. WHY ratlings? At least come up with some kind of funny space hobbit theme, don't just say "ratlings and deathstrikes".

Quoted because it needs saying again. Stop spamming comments of the form "X random unit" with no explanation for WHY it is a fun constraint.

Hey, I tried to give a theme to it hahahahahaha.


Im gonna have to try some of these sometimes...me and my friends like screwing with some odd-ball lists once in a while

No 5+ armor save is hilarious, right now due to model constraint, the only 5+ unit I have is the CCS.

Seeing all that AP 5 and being able to roll agaisn't it is great.

Use this list

Company command squad/ carapace armour, 3 flamers, heavy flamer – 105
Company command squad/ carapace armour, 3 flamers, heavy flamer – 105

Storm trooper squad/ 2 melta guns – 105
Storm trooper squad/ 2 melta guns – 105
Storm trooper squad/ melta gun, flamer – 100

Infantry platoon (330)
Platoon command squad/ 3 flamers, heavy flamer – 65
Infantry squad/ flamer - 55
Infantry squad/ flamer - 55
Infantry squad/ flamer – 55
Special weapon squad/ 3 flamers – 50
Special weapon squad/ 3 flamers – 50

Veteran squad/ carapace armour, 2 flamers, heavy flamer – 130
Veteran squad/ carapace armour, 2 flamers, heavy flamer – 130

Hellhound/ heavy flamer – 130
Hellhound/ heavy flamer – 130
Hellhound/ heavy flamer – 130

20 flamers, 8 heavy flamers, 3 inferno cannons and 5 melta guns (only for anti-tank).
105 men, 30 have 4+ saves and 3 tanks.
Cry when you verse flying bakery.
Laugh when verse green tide!


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Oooh and bonus points if its themed on Catachans.

Well, I was hoping for a challenge.

Guess dakka isn't up to dishing the Captain a list that will make me cringe.

The only upgrades you can take for your infantry are grenades and or melta bombs.

OR

Get a template army. (this can include blast and large blast)

I think this whole 'putting in constraints thing sounds great', whatever constraints you choose, please let us know on some battle reports!!! Oh, by the way, how did that all infantry, joke list fare?

loner wrote:
How about using Gazkhull and Yarrick in one list? Just for fun. Those two would love it to team up to beat the crap out of another opponent.

I played an ork/guard vs necron/ba gave back in 5th ed. I put Ghaz and Yarrick in the same squad, and then into a Valk, amidst the battle they deepstrike in, valk blows up but the duo proceeded to kick the gak out of the necrons in cc.

My favorite constraint to build a guard list to: 3 Deathstrikes required. There is no predicting how the game will go.

Oh, I have a challenge that will make ANY IG player cringe and repulse in fear and horror!

Your army can only be composed of Catachans. Only Catachans. Gun crews? Convert some. Tanks? Catachan themed. And they must be the horrid plastic ones too, painted and all

Part 2: Get through a game without either player breaking down laughing

 washout77 wrote:
Oh, I have a challenge that will make ANY IG player cringe and repulse in fear and horror!

Your army can only be composed of Catachans. Only Catachans. Gun crews? Convert some. Tanks? Catachan themed. And they must be the horrid plastic ones too, painted and all

Part 2: Get through a game without either player breaking down laughing

... I play Catachans

TheCaptain wrote:it could be funny to field the worst list in history and still win.

Hmm... worst list?

CCS, nork, camo cloaks, vox-caster

5x priests
techpriest, 5x servitors
techpriest, 5x servitors

ogryn (3)
ogryn (3)

penal legion
penal legion

3x scout sentinel squad, heavy flamers, camo netting
3x scout sentinel squad, heavy flamers, camo netting
3x scout sentinel squad, heavy flamers, camo netting

1500 points.

Two awful scoring units, no anti-tank whatsoever outside of close combat (and even then...), and no serious anti-infantry outside of 9 sentinels that will instantly be destroyed outside of cover, and are simultaneously stuck with heavy flamers.

May the emperor have mercy on your soul.

 Ailaros wrote:

CCS, nork, camo cloaks, vox-caster

5x priests
techpriest, 5x servitors
techpriest, 5x servitors

ogryn (3)
ogryn (3)

penal legion
penal legion

3x scout sentinel squad, heavy flamers, camo netting
3x scout sentinel squad, heavy flamers, camo netting
3x scout sentinel squad, heavy flamers, camo netting

1500 points.

Two awful scoring units, no anti-tank whatsoever outside of close combat (and even then...), and no serious anti-infantry outside of 9 sentinels that will instantly be destroyed outside of cover, and are simultaneously stuck with heavy flamers.

May the emperor have mercy on your soul.

. . . It's a work of art! A list so horrible it will be like watching a train wreck. Catastrophic, but you won't be able to tear your eyes away.

 TheCaptain wrote:
Well, I was hoping for a challenge.

Guess dakka isn't up to dishing the Captain a list that will make me cringe.

Don't worry captain, I'm working on one (lightning flashes ominously)

Haven't gotten to get any games yet. Liscense expired of all things so I've been stuck at home all weekend. Might play against myself just to make sure I've got the format down and so I can see which ones have the most potential.

I've already scheduled an Apoc game for this weekend, otherwise I'd try something with the ABG.

I'm thinking one of every Russ in existence, no scoring units, no artillery, no infantry, no deepstrikers, nothing but Russ.

Not a good list, but amusing, but neither is terribly weak.

However, if I want to try a painful approach, I can fight my group's TFG and his 16 screamer, 18 flamer list.

Apoc is easy.

The list is X=N/70. Where N is the number of points you are allowed to bring, and X is your list comprising entirely of units of penal legionnaires.

 Ailaros wrote:
Apoc is easy.

The list is X=N/70. Where N is the number of points you are allowed to bring, and X is your list comprising entirely of units of penal legionnaires.

Lies. Apoc still needs 1 HQ.

Also, I don't have 10k points of just guard, nevermind just guard infantry. That, however, would be incredibly amusing to watch.

If you're playing Apocalypse there's no debate at all: the correct list is X Marauder Destroyers, where X is your point total divided by 525.

Why? Because http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Warhammer-40000/Imperial_Navy/MARAUDER_DESTROYER.html is the most beautiful model GW has ever produced, and the only thing better than one of them is an entire squadron of them.

 Squidmanlolz wrote:

 washout77 wrote:
Oh, I have a challenge that will make ANY IG player cringe and repulse in fear and horror!

Your army can only be composed of Catachans. Only Catachans. Gun crews? Convert some. Tanks? Catachan themed. And they must be the horrid plastic ones too, painted and all

Part 2: Get through a game without either player breaking down laughing

... I play Catachans

So do I.