I played the Demo of that, it was ok, but nothing beats the original Panzer/Allied/Pacific general games from the mid/late 90's. Some of the scenarios on those games where insanely difficult!
I love the art but I'm having trouble reconciling the price. With shipping built in, it's going to run someone in the US nearly $170. That seems awfully high, especially when seemingly comparable wargames like Conflict of Heroes retail for $80 and can be had online for under $60.
Yeah, that's true. When you consider I can buy Memoir 44 or Tide of Iron for less than this it's difficult to justify. But I must admit that I do love that artwork, reminds me allot of the Zombicide artwork.
So am i right in thinking if i do the £45 pledge i still get access to like the cthulhu stuff if its unlocked? (never pledged before but this actually looks worth it to me)
doc1234 wrote: So am i right in thinking if i do the £45 pledge i still get access to like the cthulhu stuff if its unlocked? (never pledged before but this actually looks worth it to me)
Yep. At the £45 level you would get the cthulhu expansion for free, along with all of the previous stretch goals, which nearly doubles the size of the box
Ouch... this looks great, and seems fun, but the price.... I was briefly in at what amounted to the "complete" $170 USD level, before snapping out of it and realizing the volume of high quality plastics I could buy for the box of card-board chits. Sadly, like Ogre Designer's Edition, I can't justify miniatures game prices for boxes of chip-board.
At half the price I would be all over this but, as others have said, this is almost mini prices for cardboard. Shame really as its pretty tempting espeially the Cthulhu expansion. The price of the planned addons (3 x £20) is also very high just for tiles and a scenery book (unless I missed something?).
I'm in on this as the artwork appeals, as others have said the price is a little on the high side but I got my bonus and what little isn't spent on 'life' stuff I've put into this.
Today they announced another crossover as a future stretch goal... this time they are planning a Dust Tactics set as a free addition once the campaign reaches a certain point.
So far all they have said is that it will include plenty of iconic DT universe walkers, troops and heroes as well as some new characters that they have created for the DT universe.
The beach assault goal (3 double sided tiles, buildings and extra squads) has been unlocked and added to all pledges over £45 and we're on our way towards the next set of free tiles.
In addition to this, Modiphius and Devil Pig Games have also announced a full blown Achtung! Cthulhu expansion that includes lots of neat looking stuff.
It is an expensive buy in (especially for us stateside folks, but I'm in. I figure I really like the art and game concept, the 'weird war' additional content is cool, and it will be a lot easier for me to get to set up and play this compared to my 15mm WW2 stuff which is currently in storage. I am betting my dollars for fun ratio will make this a worth while purchase.
I just hope they can attract enough pledges that we get a bunch of the stretch goals.
There is a 'free' Cthulhu stretch goal at a certain funding level, AND a £30 expansion (which with the PDF rules which will eventually be posted to the DPG web site will be a stand alone game).
I think you could pledge the £30 plus shipping to just get the expansion if you wanted and were not interested in the WW2 historical/Hollywood aspect.
DPG games (if I remember correctly) also said the stretch goal content will eventually be for sale on their website so you could snag the othe Cthulhu content at some point.
You don't have to buy the whole thing. You can just pledge the 45£ and receive the stretch goals noticed as "for all pledges" and purchase the rest, if you like the game, later on our website or in a store (we're discussing right now with distributors...)
The Cthulhu stretch goal is available at this pledge level and you can buy the Shadows over Normandie next winter.
We don't propose a pledge with Shadows over Normandy only, so it's a bundle with HoN and the shipping cost is the same (10 for europe, 20 for the rest of the world).
(if i understood well the question)
ha, mmm, heu... Pfiouuuuu. What can i say ?
I don't really know for the moment because we're negociating with ditributors. So it could be cheaper or at least at the same price. But it's not a statement...
No problem, i think it's a part of my job. I'm working hard to reveal our game to the world so I've to be involved into every aspect of the process. It's also a pleasure to talk with gamers interrested by a game i'm working on.
Not always
If people want to get their fix, but can't afford Heroes of Normandie (or can but want something during the wait), pick up a copy of Frontiers (http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/29078/frontiers), which was their first sci-fi game, which Heroes' rules are based off of (and expanded upon).
The rulebook isn't very good, but it's definitely "workable". You can easily get the game nowadays for about 20 dollars, and it's an entertaining little gem. It uses an open-tabletop, rather than the grid of the WWII version, so it's is basically a 15mm scale wargame game without the minis.
Plus... if you don't mind Print n' Play, you can head over to Boardgamegeek, where Frontiers has tons of expansion material for free download. (Extra infantry and vehicles for the two main factions, more terrain/buildings, an entire third faction that's as big as the main two, etc).
AegisGrimm wrote: If people want to get their fix, but can't afford Heroes of Normandie (or can but want something during the wait), pick up a copy of Frontiers (http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/29078/frontiers), which was their first sci-fi game, which Heroes' rules are based off of (and expanded upon).
The rulebook isn't very good, but it's definitely "workable". You can easily get the game nowadays for about 20 dollars, and it's an entertaining little gem. It uses an open-tabletop, rather than the grid of the WWII version, so it's is basically a 15mm scale wargame game without the minis.
Plus... if you don't mind Print n' Play, you can head over to Boardgamegeek, where Frontiers has tons of expansion material for free download. (Extra infantry and vehicles for the two main factions, more terrain/buildings, an entire third faction that's as big as the main two, etc).
You can get it on Tanga for about $7 plus shipping.
I know of folks that have gotten extra copies and used the counters to glue the 'print and play' expansions onto... Also, it does come with a poster type map/terrain mat which is pretty cool, though made of paper.
and there's a rule for Frontiers to mix cards from two boxes to create your own deck...
42500 stretch goal is unlocked, Orders wooden tokens !
Next step, Houses set at 45K and after that, Cthulhu !!
I know of folks that have gotten extra copies and used the counters to glue the 'print and play' expansions onto... Also, it does come with a poster type map/terrain mat which is pretty cool, though made of paper.
I have thought of that. It would be a shame to replace the expansion material I worked so hard to make (I used spray adhesive, on top of hand-cutting all of the buildings and units), but the thought of getting it laser-printed at full 300dpi on adhesive paper at Office Max, and then doing what you said above is really tempting.
As we said from the beginning, we were working on shipping costs. We received yesterday the new rates and are pleased to announce you a 25% discount !
We wanted to wait a little bit to tell the world to avoid a drop. But we decided to do it now.
So, we have a favour to ask you. Could you wait a little bit before adjusting your pledge (for example the two last weeks) to avoid the drop that would occasion a step back with the Stretch Goals.
Thank you in advance and thank you a lot for your support !
Premier jet des règles !
Update #39 · Apr 8, 2013 · 2 comments
First of all, we want to apologize to our english spoken backers. This first draft of the rules is only in french. Anyway, you'll be able to download an english version very soon.
Donc, chers supporteurs francophones, nous sommes heureux de vous proposer ce premier jet des règles. Comme vous pourrez le lire en introduction, ce n'est qu'une version de travail, une version non maquettée à la mise en page brut.
Nous attendons de votre part de nombreux retours et nous pourrons en discuter sur le forum de Board Game Geek dédié aux règles de Heroes of Normandie. Ici :
Achtung! Cthulhu MOD for Heroes of Normandie is unlocked ! Fhtagn !
Update #40 · Apr 9, 2013 · 13 comments
As my grand father used to say "Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn". The trouble is, the Great Old Ones raised again and turned his eyes toward Normandie. At this time, June 1944, the human activity couldn't let him unmoved... Here we are, Cthulhu's unleashed on Normandie and our next goal is :
What do you mean by delusional ?
And something else about Krosmaster. For me this is a shame they had the right to make a Kickstarter campaign.
They are a big video game companie and animation studio. They didn't need to do that to publish the game. ANd the worse part is... The game is already availbale in stores (at least in Paris). I was making HoN demo game at a store and Krosmaster was to sell !
:(
SGT clem wrote: What do you mean by delusional ?
And something else about Krosmaster. For me this is a shame they had the right to make a Kickstarter campaign.
They are a big video game companie and animation studio. They didn't need to do that to publish the game. ANd the worse part is... The game is already availbale in stores (at least in Paris). I was making HoN demo game at a store and Krosmaster was to sell !
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Don't disagree with you at all. As to why they're delusional:
1. They're complaining that some CMoN projects have things that actually have to be developed. You know....one of the things KS is actually for.
2. They're ridiculously optomistic about what they think the project is going to bring it $$ wise.
3. They have completely absurd expectations as to things that can be added to the campaign
4. None of them see the inherent problem in having the campaign be so top heavy instead of promoting more backers.
Honestly, I could go on. I really like the look of the game, but the fact that they're making it so hard to get some of the primary characters from the show drives me insane. At this point I'd prefer to just pick it up retail at a discount if I end up getting it.
Shame how poorly their campaign has been run, as it genuinely looks like a good game.
Love the art for Heroes of Normandie, for sure. And with the reduced shipping, it's becoming much more attractive to me.
The Cthulhu angle has slightly peaked my interest in this game. Can anyone here tell me if the Kickstarter price for the game and the scenario sets are discounted?
If so, what will the recommended retail price for the base game and individual expansions be?
SGT clem wrote: About Krosmaster : i see...
No, Skorne, there's no discount except the stretch goals. And that's already a lot !
So the basic pledge level for the game (£45) is the same as the recommended retail price?
Will the Saint Mere Eglise, Carentan, Pegasus Bridge and Shadows over Normandie scenario packs be sold at retail after the Kickstarter.
Finally, if I wanted to make 2 £90 pledges and 2 pledges for extra Cthulhu Zombies, can I do it as one or do I have to make them from 2 separate Kickstarter Accounts. Can I combine shipping for 2 orders to save postage?
For every backer who purchases the 3 scenario sets (Ste-Mère-Eglise, Carentan & Pegasus Bridge) we offer him the last stretch goal to unlock (so we will edit it).
Current one is Wittmann & Tigre group.
If the 100K are reached, we'll create new stretch goals and the last one will be offered as replacement of Wittmann, and so on...
The Cthulhu angle has slightly peaked my interest in this game. Can anyone here tell me if the Kickstarter price for the game and the scenario sets are discounted?
If so, what will the recommended retail price for the base game and individual expansions be?
Thanks!
I'm in the exact same boat!
I can't really tell what the difference is between the pledge levels... I also can't tell why the 90 pound pledge level was limited to 250, but now there is an unlimited one? Is there any advantage to the limited one?
Zombies and Cthulhu has me way more interested than just straight up WW2. If someone could link to any updates that expanded on just those 2 things, as there's not much on the KS homepage, it'd be much appreciated
Man... I just keep wavering. I love the art... I appreciate the stripped down, yet tactically complete way that this game both is, and is not a table-top miniatures game. On the one hand, I bet I could get this on the table when no one wants to break out the terrain, minis, etc...
But the price.... ye Gods... That is a very, very costly box of punch-board. I'm sure there is piles of gameplay value on said boards... but at the end of the day... this game should not be this highly priced, in my mind.
I really wish there was discount stretch-goal, or an eventual free expansion choice from the add-ons... Something. But right now, the "good" pledge, with US shipping still comes in at $151, for essentially a box of chip-board.
So was Steve Jackson's vanity edition of Ogre.... and in hindsight, most people have seen what a horrid "value" that was.
What are you talking about? If you're talking about the Kickstarter 6th ed. then you're going to have to back that up with pointing out where all these people who think it was a rip off, actually are.
Everyone who bid knew what they were getting and wanted it. Lots of people wanted it. If you don't like chip board that's fine, but there's a ton of us who are plenty happy with it.
He might be referring to the fact that it's not likely to ship until the end of the summer now, which would make it a year overdue (but what kickstarter hasn't experienced delays, seemingly ).
why saiying it's 151$ ? It's 90$ for thefirst pledge.
And for that money you have the core game box, you have a full campaign set (landing), you have tiles for replayability. Man, you don't need everything. You can buy more stuff later after the release.
And i'm not talking about the sipping cost. It was maybe expensive but now, with the weitght added to the package, trust me, it's becoming cheaper and cheaper every stretch goal...
Ludwig (Panzer Kampflaüfer), Heinrich (Panzer Aufklärerlaüfer 1-A), Hans ( (Panzer Aufklärerlaüfer 1-A), Laser Grenadiers, Heavy Recon Grenadiers, Axis Gorillas, Axis Zombie (just one), Sigrid, Markus and Totenmeister.
Allies:
Hot Dog (medium combat walker M2-B), Pounder (medium combat walker M2-C), Honey (light assault walker M1-C), Wildfire (light assault walker M1-A), BBQ squad (Rangers), Recon Boys (Rangers), Grim Reaper (Heavy Rangers), Devil's Own (Brits commando), Bazooka Joe and Rhino.
Three punchboards (available to purchase too at £15).
70k Unlocked ! We are 500 we are legion !
Update #54 · Apr 18, 2013 · 14 comments
And more to come ! Further Stretch goals will be unveiled after the 100k Stretch goal is reached.
I know this is an expensive game for US backers, especially since it is cardboard and not minis, but I really like what they are doing with it, and I love that most of the extras get added on for free to my 90 pound pledge.
Project Update #64: The BIG 100K UPDATE
Posted by Devil Pig Games Like
We did it !! Thank to all of you ! To be honnest, we hoped it but didn't expect it for real if you know what i mean.
We're amazed by what's going on ! Amazed, excited, happy and proud !
So here's the 100K Update :
Wittmann's unlocked so Lovat is the new reward for the scenario sets bundle pack. If Lovat, no, sorry, when Lovat will be unlocked, we will figure out what kind of candy we will provide instead, for the scenarion sets bundle pack reward. 2nd French DB ?
We created new stretch goals up to 150K (who knows...) to provide a complete and playable British army.
If we don't reach these goals, you can find them in the shop with a new infantry platoon for the Brits'. More Canadians. This infantry will be different form the first Brit one.
We also made a small change. The 2 alternative infantry platoons are no longer Kickstarter Exclusive.
A lot of people asked us to do it and, to be honnest once again, they were right.
It didn't have any sense. We hope you'll understand that.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Another update!
Work in progress :
Update #65 · Apr 25, 2013 · 12 comments
1 tile for Sainte-Mère-Eglise and the bridge from rivers tiles set. it's not finish !
One more Stretch goal unlocked and a new message...
We can't unfortunatly add quality bags into the core game box because of high final production price.
So, and because lots of you asked for bags and dice, we propose you this Special Kickstarter offer:
3 cloth bags, one for generic US army, one for generic German army and one for the Devil Pigs ! This last item is a Kickstarter Exclusive and won't be available after the Kickstarter campaign.
And because we, at Devil Pig Games, aren't stingy, we add 6 special embossed dice. 2 for the Ivy Division, 2 for the Panzer Lehr (these dice are different from those present in the core game box) and 2 Kickstarter Exclusive Devil Pig dice...
Hope you'll enjoy !
I probably won't go for this, as the game itself, Shadows over Normandie expansion and shipping have already stretched my gaming budget for the month/quarter/year - still, it is kinda cool!
Here is a "wip" sample of a Panther tank for HoN (Panzer Lehr from the panzer group). As you can see, our models are quite in line in terms of historicity and design. Enjoy ! (Tactical markings will be added later).
Ambush !
Update #68 · Apr 26, 2013 · 10 comments
And now... A Stug IV, with opp fire (the stug III/IV with the 7,5 cm StuK 40 L/43 or L/48 was supposed to be a tank hunter at first). Ambush ! And the stug will be allowed to carry a squad counter too.
Alph, I believe I have passed my kickstarter addiction on to you . I'm in the "recovery" stage... or rather, the "I spent several grand on Kickstarter last year and have nothing to show for it yet" stage, so let me see if I actually get stuff back on my investments
Really glad to see this do well, I am interested in it and would love to hear how you like the gameplay when you get the game! Maybe you can bring it to a Con we're both going to... AdeptiCon 2014 comes to mind
Sounds great . Time for me to get "approval", too...!
This campaign is at 4.5 times it's original target, so it did really well . Not seeing too much of an uptick at the end here, but I'm not sure if that tends to be different for "true boardgames" rather than "piles of miniatures masquerading as board games"
Frankly they have done an amazing job of turning the trend around. I am amazed they beat 85K, and not just beat it but smashed it. The balance of 'free' add-ons to purchased extras was good. Though really expensive for a card board vice minis game, they have really exceeded what I thought they would on this project.
I could NOT resist the "Shadows over Normandie" expansion, but I was able to resist all the others.
Even though they have a 'buy 3 get one free' deal, I could justify the additional £60/$90USD to do it.
Maybe later!
Automatically Appended Next Post: And... done!
V for VICTORY !!
Update #74 · Apr 27, 2013 · 10 comments
Gentlemen,
This is not a victory.
This is a HUGE SUCCESS !
This moment is awesome, YOU are awesome !
All this is thank to YOU ! We dreamt a game, you made it come to life !
When you will be old and that your grand children will ask you " hey gran'pa, what did you do during the great Normandie Kickstarter campaign you will be proud to say : I was there, standing proudly at the side of Devil Pig Games during these last ten unbelievable minutes."
We are full of joy and alcool so don't expect any communication in the next 24h00 (And as tomorow is sunday, that's two good reasons for doing nothing...).
Thank you again to all of you, you rock !!
PLAY HEROIC ! PLAY BLOODY ! PLAY HEROES OF NORMANDIE !
Yes, good question, what's going on ? Some people asked us on the Devil Pig forum at what point are we at two months from the release.
But before answering this question i've some news to tell.
First we were at the Q-Con in Belfast, invited by the wonderfull guys from Weegamers. A huge thank to them for their amazing welcoming and kindness.
We were today at the Japan Expo in Paris and we met some other great guys (we will talk about that later, you'll see) and worked for our game distribution.
We received 10 prototypes sample copies of the core game box, final quality from our manufacturer. To tell the truth we're more than happy about it.
Guys, IT'S AWESOME !
We're waiting for the wooden tokens to take a picture and show it to you. Next week i guess.
On the 10th we'll meet Chris from Modifius to talk about Shadows over Normandie.
And all this days we worked, work and will work hard on the game !
What's done ?
US command / US weapon platoon / US recon platoon / US Tank platoon / US Miller's rangers / US / alternate platoon / US/GE Extra units & véhicles set II / GE command / GE SS group / GE tank group / GE sturmpioniers / GE alternate platoon / More zombies / Dust mode / Achtung cthulhu mode .
Some details to finish and we will post those you didn't see.
Victim of our success and because we were very generous (yes, we were ! We don't regret anything and it was a part of our success) and enthusiastic, we added a lot of stuff we didn't expected.
It would have be OK if Essen doesn't exist. Our manufacturer told us few days ago that if we want to be ready for Septembre, we have to send him the files for the end of July. He has a lot of customers that press him because they want to be at Essen with their products then he pressed us.
We don't want to spoil our game quality for that so we decided to delay the release. We will be two months late and will deliver the game in November.
I'm sure you'll understand that and keep supporting us. You want the best so do we.
Ho, we have a surprise, the Landing became an entire scenario pack so we added punchboard and all of them pass from the 30X20 to the 30X30 format. This way we were able to add one section of US COMBAT ENGINEER and one section of FESTUNGSKOMPANIE. Boats are now tokens so are the Bunkers.
We know we don't feed you with enough updates those days and are not very present on the forum, sorry for that. We're focusing on production for the best.
Here's some Investigators and Cthulhu vilains...
We hope you're OK with that and let you know about our progress.
It is definitely something I will buy, as I am a huge fan of their first game "Frontiers". It was sci-fi based, and Heroes of Normandie is basically an expanded version of Frontiers, with a grid map system where Frontiers is open movement like minis games.
Unfortunately, their shipping to the USA was basically half the price of the lowest pledge that would get you a boxed set, for which I would rather wait for the retail release and save the 25 dollars.
I wholly expect the game to rock, though, as Frontiers is tons of fun.
Ok soldiers, here's my report about Operation Gencon.
We were on the Iello US booth, invited by our distributor for USA. We made around 30-40 demos during these four days.
Everything went well. More than that i want to say... We have a story that tells how the public loved the game. Our first tester was an FFG demontrator. He loved the game so much that he came back the last day to tell us goodbye. I asked him if i missed a good game to buy for myself. His answer was "Heroes of Normandy". He played 30 to 40 different games and HoN was his favorite. He added that he usualy doesn't like wargames...
Marco did an interview of me so you can enjoy my wonderfull english. That's too bad he did it the second day, i was better the last one.
We drank a lot, saw tons of motorbikes, ride the rodeo bull, ate lots of burgers, walked too much, played too little...
Last thing, here's the Devil Pigs patch, hand made by french foreign legion official supplier. You can't see it properly but the silver circle is really silvery, not a grey lame stuff... Enjoy
I sincerely hope the general release of HoN is full of great stuff, because I am getting hugely jealous of the Kickstarter stuff and how cool it looks! I just couldn't justify the enormous shipping to the US, so I have to be satisfied by being "normal".
Though this is undoubtedly the most expensive board game I've bought, I am very impressed with how this is turning out. I can't wait to get this game delivered.
CptJake wrote: Though this is undoubtedly the most expensive board game I've bought, I am very impressed with how this is turning out. I can't wait to get this game delivered.
A little teaser...
Update #118 · Oct 3, 2013 · 19 comments
We still have to work on the "D-Day" title graphism.
Americans finally did it but it was a slaughter !
Mezike about 2 hours ago
Chaps, check the previous updates! Specifically #98 and several of the ones that followed. The Landing stretch goal and the beach transition tiles were incorporated into a scenario pack with some additional free content. All pledges will get a copy with the base game! Quite frankly DPG are being totally awesome with this surprise addition :-)
Creator Devil Pig Games about 2 hours ago
It's the Landing (first & second stretch goals) we tranformed into our first scenario pack (we made an update about that). It's now called D-Day, and it's included into every pledge !
So, at what point are we ?That's a question a lot of you keep asking and we kept not answering. Untill today. Because we did'nt have a proper answer... We do, now.
We finished a first batch and it's ready to go to print. Production will start at the end of the week. After that we will have to wait for the delivery in our storage facility then dispatching the whole stuff around the world to you, backers. Production should last for 2 to 3 weeks, 1 to 2 weeks for transportation and then 2 to 3 weeks for backers delivery.
It means you'll receive your package in 5 to 8 weeks. We're really sorry for the delay.
What's the first batch ? Why is there a first batch ?
The first batch is everything except the scenarios packs Sainte Mère Eglise, Carentan and Pegasus Bridge and Shadows over Normandie. We promised a lot and it was too much work for only two guys. We did a great job, we were commited to the game 10 to 12 hours a day and we had a huge pleasure to work. But we should have learn a duplicator spell to make it...
That's our first mistake.
The second was that we wanted to go to print once we receive our partners orders to save money on the print run. We should have launch our own production progressively without waiting for third parties. Now we know and won't make the same mistake twice. That's one of the reason we hired Stephane, the new team member, to manage this part of the business.
Yann and I are game designers and obviously lame quartermasters.
So, yes, there's a second batch wich, of course, is without additional delivery fees for you. We won't go to Bahamas for hollydays this year...
What else can we say ?Nothing. That's our fault and we don't blame others for that. We're learning as we're doing. You'll have more than enough to play waiting for the second batch, don't worry. We're sure that you will not explore all the facets of the first batch before receiving the second one. We think you don't fully apprehend what you'll get and what you'll be able to do with... You'll have a shock. And we hope, for the most hardcore of you, that the community will help us to supply you with new scenarios on our website. We will also try to put regularly « print and play » stuff to download.
But because we're who we are, we feel bad about that and decided to upgrade Shadows over Normandie. It becomes a stand alone game with almost the same amount of elements than the core game box (cards, Order tokens, tiles and punchboards).We know, it won't benefit to all of you. For the others we hope that the « piggy surprise » will be big enough to make you forgive us for that.
Cheers and thank you again for your amazing support.
Yann, Clem and Stephane
PS : We will be at Essen for those who want to meet us.
Booth is Schwerkraft's, Hall 2, F136.
We will be present on the booth :
Thursday : from 11:30 to 12:30 and from 16:00 to 17:15
Friday : from 11:00 to 12:30, from 13:30 to 14:45 and from 17:30 to18:15
Saturday : From 11:00 to 12:30, from 13:00 to 14:45 and from 16:30 to 18:30
Sunday : From 11:00 to 13:00 Le 20 octobre 2013 17:24
Bon alors, on en est où ?
C'est une question que beaucoup d'entre vous n'ont cessé de nous poser et que nous avons esquivé jusqu'à présent. Parce que nous n'avions pas la réponse... Nous avons fini le premier lot et il est prêt à partir à l'impression. La production va démarrer à la fin de la semaine. Ensuite nous devrons attendre la livraison à notre entrepôt puis préparer les envois et faire partir tous les colis à travers le monde, jusqu'à vous, backers. La production devrait prendre 2 à 3 semaines, 1 à 2 semaines de transport et 2 à 3 semaines pour la livraison chez vous.
Ça veut dire que vous recevrez votre colis dans 5 à 8 semaines.
C'est quoi le premier lot ? Et pourquoi il y a un premier lot ?
Le premier lot contient tout à l'exception des scénarios packs Sainte Mère Eglise, Carentan et Pegasus Bridge et Shadows over Normandie. Nous avons beaucoup promis et c'était trop de travail pour seulement deux types. On a fait un super boulot, on s'est dédié au jeu 10 à 12 heures par jour et nous y avons pris beaucoup de plaisir. Mais nous aurions du apprendre un sort de dédoublement pour pouvoir faire face...
C'est notre première erreur.
La seconde a été de vouloir attendre pour imprimer que les commandes denos partenaires soient validées pour économiser de l'argent. Nous aurions du lancer notre propre production progressivement sans attendre les autres. Maintenant nous le savons et nous ne referons pas la même erreur. C'est une des raisons pour lesquelles nous avons embauché Stéphane, le nouveau membre de l'équipe, pour gérer cette partie du business. Yann et moi sommes des auteurs de jeux et visiblement de mauvais intendants.
Donc, oui, il va y avoir un second lot qui, cela va de soi, sera sans frais de port supplémentaires pour vous. On ne partira pas aux Bahamas cette année...
Qu'est-ce que nous pouvons ajouter ?
Rien. C'est notre faute et nous ne blâmons personne d'autre pour ça. Nous apprenons en faisant. Vous aurez suffisamment de matos pour attendre le deuxième lot. Nous sommes sûrs que vous n'aurez pasle temps d'explorer toutes les facettes du premier lot avant de recevoir le second. Nous pensons que vous n'avez pas totalement idée de tout ce que vous allez recevoir et de ce que vous pourrez faire avec. Vous allez avoir un choc. Et nous espérons, pour les plus hardcore d'entre vous, que la communauté nous aidera à vous ravitailler avec de nouveaux scénarios sur notre site web. Nous essaierons aussi de mettre régulièrement du matos « print and play » à télécharger.
Mais parce que nous sommes qui nous sommes, nous nous sentons mal à propos de tout ça et nous avons décidé d'améliorer Shadows over Normandie. Il devient un jeu à part entière avec à peu près la même quantité de matériel que la boite de base (cartes, pions Ordre, tuiles et punchboards).Nous savons que cela ne concerne pas tout le monde. Pour les autres, nous espérons que la « piggy surprise » sera assez grosse pour que vous nous pardonniez.
Merci à vous pour votre incroyable soutien !
Yann, Clem et Stéphane
PS : Nous serons à Essen pour ceux qui voudront nous y rencontrer.
Le stand est celui de Schwerkraft, Hall 2, F136.
Nous serons sur le stand :
jeudi : de 11:30 à 12:30 et de 16:00 à 17:15
Vendredi: de 11:00 à 12:30, de 13:30 à 14:45 et de 17:30 à18:15
Samedi : de 11:00 à 12:30, de 13:00 à 14:45 et de 16:30 à 18:30
Dimanche : de 11:00 à 13:00
Another Kickstarter delay? Least shocking update news....ever!
Update #122
Nov 19, 2013
We're sorry Santa...
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So yes, we're late. I won't write tons of things just to tell you that. The question is « why are we late ? »
We did our job and we did it well. We sent everything to the Printer and he checked our files. Then he called us to told us we missed some very important steps. He started to talk about lot numbers, copyrights on every components, warning for babies to not eat the MG42, references, international business laws, nomenclature, profiles, ...
We did generate the bar codes and were very proud of that. We told him but that was not enough though. We didn't know all the arcanes of this secret language.
A new world opened its doors to us and what's behind is pretty scarry !
The Printer summoned a minor demon to help us. He spawned in Paris just to finalize our files in order to pass the great old final test. The kind of test you're doomed for ever if you fail it.
It took days and nights to finalize this task but now, it's done. Pentagrames are drawed, a choir is singing the ancient incantations and the sacrifice has been complete (We sacrificed our own social life).
The Printer was happy. His wrath was appease. He decided to let us pass for the next level. He said « Production ready to start it is. » And we praised him, immolated his demon and drank some beers.
So, the production will start next week. No slots for us before... It will last for 4 to 5 weeks. Then 3 to 4 weeks for boat shipping and custom and 1 to 2 week for delivery...
We won't be able to provide you the game for Christmas and we're very sorry about that.
So it is time to reveal the piggy surprise...
For all pledges, we offer you two army boxes with plastic trays to sort your tokens, one American and one German.
For the 90£ pledges, we add the Commonwealth army box.
You also will have another surprise when the website will be finished. By logging with your Kickstarter email you'll find out what it is.
I told you in a previous update that we're game designers, not publishers. Now we are ! The next project will be more professional in terms of production and delay and still as generous as Heroes of Normandie.
We learned from our mistakes...
Project Update #123: Still printing and...
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Yes, stuff is printing ! It's a huge job because they have to print so many things. But we're good so far.
I finished to work on the Backers report files and i've something to say :
THANK YOU !
Because i read so many encouraging, cheering and very kind messages from you ! It was a very pleasant moment to read them all.
What are we doing now ?
We finished to create the paratroopers regiments for all armies. With new characters, gear, units, vehicles and, of course, heroes. Now we have to work on the visuals. We should be able to show you the US 101st and 82nd airborne soon, Fallschirmjägers will follow, then the brits. We will test the scenarios and the new terrain tiles after that.
We also working on downloadable special rules for Achtung! Cthulhu and DUST MODs.
The new website will be online soon.
And ?
And, once the 3 scenario packs are done, we will focus on Shadows over Normandie (the title may change).
That's it folks...
Doesn't look like this one is shipping anytime soon then...
None that I've seen - and since the latest update mentions starting work on the Shadows Over Normandie Cthulhu expansion soon... It is probably going to be longer than we think!
I couldn't swing the horrible shipping for the Kickstarter version, but was wholly looking forward to getting the retail version. I have been a fan of their game "Frontiers" since it came out, and having played that puts me in a situation to have full confidence in Heroes of Normandie.
Dec 26, 2013
Merry Christmas !
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To you all !
We hope you had great parties. Sorry again to not have provide the game in time.
Everything's should be printed mid January. Yes, we know, it's late again but this time it's not our fault. Iello's working with the same printer and told us that their production is late too. To tell the truth, being a small company involve some disadvantages. For example, seeing our production delayed by bigger production and it's not because of this particular printer, all of them are more compliant with their most important clients.
We had a trouble with the dice and the order tokens, the quality was'nt good enough, the colour was horrible. So we asked them to work again on that.
It took more time than expected to check the whole production. Because of the amount of different elements we worked closely with the printer to avoid any mistakes.
So, nothing really new, no really good news but we're getting closer everyday from the delivery.
Paratroopers are defined and we're working on the visuals. We will show the first units after the hollydays.
The website is quiet finished, we just have to fill some parts in english.
We will enter our workplace at the beginning of January. That will help us to be more efficient than working from our appartments.
So, the news, the one we were all waiting for, arrived this morning. The print run is finished and we're booking the boats (one for the US/Canada and one for Europe/Russia).
a couple weeks ago...
Thist means, your packages should leave China next week, sailing toward the dispatchers. During this time the new version of the dice will be produced (because we weren't happy with the quality of the previous dice).
bad version
new version but not final colour
Piggy dice (one black and one pink)
Once this production is done, and it will be done before the boats arrive, we'll send them by plane to the dispatchers and they will add them to your packages... and mail them to you !!
Australia and Asia can wait for the dice to be done before being send to backers.
And next month, the full production will be sent to us (Devil Pig Game and other co-editor/distributor) and then, to the stores.
The plastic tray...
Sorry again for the delays and the lack of communication. We were stressed, a little bit depressed and felt bad for you. But it's over and the moral is high !
You were patient, you were great, you changed our lives... Thank you for everything !
What else ? Next update will be about British paratroopers and should be online on monday (for sure !).
Yann & Clem
Still not clear as to which expansions, if any, will also be shipping now, or if not, when!
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Creator Devil Pig Games 3 days ago
Hello guys. Sorry for the silence. If we dind't say anything it's because we didn't have any concrete news to tell you. We're working on an update for this week with, i hope, a strong date for delivery. We will tell you the last events, the good things and the less good ones (nothing serious, don't worry). Once again it's a lot of work for three people, handling the production, dealing the best delivery services, working with the distributors, creating paratroopers (visual very soon !), working to have a proper workplace, dealing with the insurance (we're starting, so everything has to be done), finding a warehouse...
Anyway, you're right to tell us to speak more. We ear you and we're not very confrotable with this situation. But don't worry, it's on its way, it takes time. We had an issue with the dice and are working on two shipments to the dispachers to not lose more time (everything by boat and then dice by plane). We will show you the pictures of the dice to explain why we asked the manufacturer to re-make them.
I swear you to post an update about the production before the end of the week !
We will post something about the British paratroopers very soon. This part tooks time too because we changed our working process (we spotted too many mistakes with the previous one). That means starting from scratch to work on a clean material.
Hope you'll understand...
By the way, i just received the Rivet War delivery announcement, one year after having pledged their game. And this is cool mini. They're way bigger than us.
I'm realizing that with an upcoming move (most likely to a smaller place) I have too much stuff. I just sold off my Galaxy Defenders pledge and am considering selling off this one too. Not 100% positive yet, but would anyone be interested in it?
You can use your DPG/HoN forum account to connect to the site.
Here’s a list of what you’ll find on it tomorrow :
- The HoN forum migrates to the new website. - PDF files for the rules in French and english and a link to the German version will arrive soon. - A new version of the Demo (same scenario but updated rules and tokens). - Pre-orders on our webstore.
What you’ll find soon :
- Kickstarter exclusives (DUST, Achtung Cthulhu, French forces of the Interior, Steiner Kampfgruppe) will be available to download for free with their specific rules. - Italian version of the rules. Russian and Spanish are on their way. - Special capacities list regularly updated (PDF file). - New terrain overlays free to download. - Scenarios (any contribution will be welcome !). We’re working on a dedicated tool to create your own scenarios and share them with the community.
Next week : Fallschirmjägers and shipping updates.
Hello everybody from the new wolrd !
We were silent since the last news. Why ? Because we weren't 100% sure of the informations we had.
Iello told us that the boat left on the 26th of March. That information was correct. Except that the boat left Beijing to reach Shanghai. So we kept this information for us.
Then they gave us the boat name and a departure date, the 30th. We checked and the boat didn't hit Shanghai harbour at this time. We kept this information for us.
The boat finally left Shanghai this morning (french time). She will stop in some chinese ports before sailing to USA. We released the information...
ETA is the 13th of April (Iello official statement). 2 more weeks to be in their warehouse.
We got news from the German dispatcher. He will receive the whole stuff in his warehouse on Thursday or Friday and will start sending packages to YOU on Monday or Tuesday.
Meantime... we're working !
This is the third Carentan campaign scenario. "Cole's Charge !"
EU : shipping should be finished tomorrow or the day after. (don't ask me about tracking number, i don't know how it's handled).
FR : Ensuite, il nous envoie le camion avec le reste pour les cellules de résistance. Les colis sont fait donc on n'aura pas à le faire et on gagnera du temps !
NA : The boat should arrive tomorrow and the container the 25th in the warehouse. Dispatch will start then.
Australasia : Bad news. The chinese dispatcher cancelled the deal yesterday :(
We're looking for a new one but the last price we get was 150$ to 200$ for Australia !!! You can understand that we can't do that.
So far, the solution for the moment, is to send the packages from Germany (the german dispatcher is the cheapest but it's still 100$ for Australia). We will pay for that, don't worry but it will be longer. And i love Aussie (! So ii feel bad for you.
If someone has a contact to help us to send packages from China, email me (clem@devil-pig-games.com).
Download (devil-pig-games.com)
A lot of things are available to download on our website (DDay in english, DUST, Achtung!Cthulhu, Special habilities summary...)
Plein de choses sont à télécharger sur notre site web ! (DDay en français, DUST, Achtung!Cthulhu, récapitulatif des compétences...)
Here's an explanation about the Stretch goals and pledged modifications (click to enlarge) :
. Asmodee, Guillotine Games, Dust Games. All French or Spanish. All great art.
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. Not seeing too much of an uptick at the end here, but I'm not sure if that tends to be different for "true boardgames" rather than "piles of miniatures masquerading as board games" 
