Well, I'm confused... what about watermelon is racist, exactly? The twitter comments posted in the article mention it as if it should be self-evident. Is this some obscure american thing?
So help me if they get the pulled before I can eat them I'm gonna have to kill someone. I loves me some artificial watermelon flavored treats. Was just sitting here eating some Mike n Ike Red Rageous and thinking that the watermelon ones were the best in the box.
insaniak wrote: Well, I'm confused... what about watermelon is racist, exactly? The twitter comments posted in the article mention it as if it should be self-evident. Is this some obscure american thing?
It's a racist stereotype that black people love watermelon, but yeah it's weird one too.
insaniak wrote: Well, I'm confused... what about watermelon is racist, exactly? The twitter comments posted in the article mention it as if it should be self-evident. Is this some obscure american thing?
The racist stereotype is the African-Americans "love them some fried chicken and watermelon".
Thus they think releasing these biscuits is some sort of racist joke about them. Clearly like most cases it's reflecting more on the person making the comment than the actual thing the comment is made about.
insaniak wrote: Well, I'm confused... what about watermelon is racist, exactly? The twitter comments posted in the article mention it as if it should be self-evident. Is this some obscure american thing?
It's a racist stereotype that black people love watermelon, but yeah it's weird one too.
Watermelon and fried chicken are the two big "racist" charactures of the african-american diet. Outside of America, all this drama probably makes no sense whatsoever.
poppa G wrote: Where did these two stereo types originate? It seems they have just popped up just barely.
Most likely from most slaves working in agriculture and chicken being cheaper than other types of meat. Really, it doesn't make a lot of sense chicken is a staple food for most people as well, but this kind of racism rarely makes that much sense anyway.
I have no idea why anyone would want an Oreo flavoured like watermelon, but if some food scientist could invent an Oreo that tasted like fried chicken I would give him all my money.
sebster wrote: I have no idea why anyone would want an Oreo flavoured like watermelon,
I don't understand how people could want Oreos in the first place. They are gross. The cream is all foul tasting and the biscuit part tastes like cardboard
but if some food scientist could invent an Oreo that tasted like fried chicken I would give him all my money.
sebster wrote: I have no idea why anyone would want an Oreo flavoured like watermelon,
I don't understand how people could want Oreos in the first place. They are gross. The cream is all foul tasting and the biscuit part tastes like cardboard
But don't your people love that sand dust syrup called Vegimite? I have to imagine that destroys any sense of good taste.
poppa G wrote: Where did these two stereo types originate? It seems they have just popped up just barely.
Most likely from most slaves working in agriculture and chicken being cheaper than other types of meat. Really, it doesn't make a lot of sense chicken is a staple food for most people as well, but this kind of racism rarely makes that much sense anyway.
sebster wrote: I have no idea why anyone would want an Oreo flavoured like watermelon,
I don't understand how people could want Oreos in the first place. They are gross. The cream is all foul tasting and the biscuit part tastes like cardboard
But don't your people love that sand dust syrup called Vegimite? I have to imagine that destroys any sense of good taste.
Vegemite is weak-sauce compared to the proper stuff.
sebster wrote: I have no idea why anyone would want an Oreo flavoured like watermelon,
I don't understand how people could want Oreos in the first place. They are gross. The cream is all foul tasting and the biscuit part tastes like cardboard
But don't your people love that sand dust syrup called Vegimite? I have to imagine that destroys any sense of good taste.
Sand and dust syrup? It's salt and oil my friend, and the part of the breakfast of champions (vegi on weetbix, the adds lie, milk is for the weak).
Snrub wrote: understand how people could want Oreos in the first place. They are gross. The cream is all foul tasting and the biscuit part tastes like cardboard
You've probably had the Oreos you can get now, the ones without the hydrogenated fat in them. They made them take it out because it killed you faster than heroin. But it also made them taste awesome.
Yeah, the ones that are out there now I wouldn't bother with, but man those old oreos were awesome.
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Ahtman wrote: But don't your people love that sand dust syrup called Vegimite? I have to imagine that destroys any sense of good taste.
I have absolutely no idea how or why my fellow Australians got conned in to eating that stuff.
My wife used to eat it, and when she went to buy a replacement jar I annoyed her until she bought Nutella instead. She's replaced that Nutella jar about 3 times now, and never gone back to Vegemite. She seems a happier person now.
sebster wrote: I have no idea why anyone would want an Oreo flavoured like watermelon,
I don't understand how people could want Oreos in the first place. They are gross. The cream is all foul tasting and the biscuit part tastes like cardboard
But don't your people love that sand dust syrup called Vegimite? I have to imagine that destroys any sense of good taste.
Vegemite is weak-sauce compared to the proper stuff.
Marmite FTW!
Exactly, when NZs marmite factory was knocked out of operation 2 years ago there was a huge supermarket rush for it. Then it ran out and it was all over the news (even I admit that was a bit funny), its only just come back in the last few months and the first batch sold out in a few hours.
Anyway, back to the OP, from my point of view it seems a rather small thing to get so worked up over. But then thats probably because I'm some white guy from NZ, if I was to be a person in a situation where I genuinely feel slighted by watermelon oreos then I'd probably express my annoyance as well. Its hard for someone like me to say hey, its got no racial intent behind it, and then expect them to accept that when they probably view me as part of the collective who made that stereotype.
poppa G wrote: Where did these two stereo types originate? It seems they have just popped up just barely.
Most likely from most slaves working in agriculture and chicken being cheaper than other types of meat. Really, it doesn't make a lot of sense chicken is a staple food for most people as well, but this kind of racism rarely makes that much sense anyway.
Watermelons grow well in the south, and have comparatively large amounts of water sequestered in them, making them not only a source of food, but also easily portable potable water. The climate in the south requires you to stay hydrated or basically die if you're particularly active in the summer. Watermelon, grown on the edges of fields, was thus a staple of any menial laborer's diet when working in the summer. This was copied by minstrel shows, and has persisted as a stereotype primarily through people getting offended about watermelons, which leads to the history being dragged up again.
Fried chicken maintains its flavor and consistency longer than other manners of preparing chicken, making it an ideal food for reconstruction-era blacks when meeting in town (the establishments in town tending to refuse service to them), as it could be prepared and transported without degrading in quality. Again, copied by minstrel shows, and persisting mainly because people get offended and dredge it up.
sebster wrote: You've probably had the Oreos you can get now, the ones without the hydrogenated fat in them. They made them take it out because it killed you faster than heroin. But it also made them taste awesome.
Yeah, the ones that are out there now I wouldn't bother with, but man those old oreos were awesome.
I used to love Oreos when I was a kid, but not as much now. Both then and now though I'd scrape off the icing and just eat the cookie part usually, the icing is just kinda gross.
I have to imagine adding watermelon flavor to that wouldn't change anything.
Sir Pseudonymous wrote: Watermelons grow well in the south, and have comparatively large amounts of water sequestered in them, making them not only a source of food, but also easily portable potable water. The climate in the south requires you to stay hydrated or basically die if you're particularly active in the summer. Watermelon, grown on the edges of fields, was thus a staple of any menial laborer's diet when working in the summer. This was copied by minstrel shows, and has persisted as a stereotype primarily through people getting offended about watermelons, which leads to the history being dragged up again.
Fried chicken maintains its flavor and consistency longer than other manners of preparing chicken, making it an ideal food for reconstruction-era blacks when meeting in town (the establishments in town tending to refuse service to them), as it could be prepared and transported without degrading in quality. Again, copied by minstrel shows, and persisting mainly because people get offended and dredge it up.
An interesting history lesson. Ya learn something new everyday.
The racist stereotype is the African-Americans "love them some fried chicken and watermelon".
Thus they think releasing these biscuits is some sort of racist joke about them. Clearly like most cases it's reflecting more on the person making the comment than the actual thing the comment is made about.
Of course, the stereotype kind of misses the point that everyone loves themselves some fried chicken and watermelon.
That's very true Fafnir. I couldn't live without Watermelon on a hot day and i sure as gak couldn't live without chicken, fried or otherwise, on any other day.
It's a shame though, since fried chicken rarely tends to sit well with me. I have to really commit if I'm going to have any, so it's got to be good. But it's one hell of a worthwhile commitment when it is.
Being from the south I used to hear comments about African Americans and watermelons and chickens, and how it was supposed to be an insult. I never thought it was funny because I love watermelon and chicken myself.
Apparently Caucasian Americans are predisposed to liking mayonnaise. I can't wait for the mayonnaise flavored oreo!!
I don't get them... it's like a stereotype that was used 2 centuries ago. The hell people.
Just because it's a chocolate cookie with a melon flavor glacing makes it racist? That's totally slowed.
We had these things here when you'd translate it to english they would be called "(N word) Kisses". They changed the name to something different. I understand that that would be seen as racist. But pulling the racist card on just a cookie?
I really want to take a picture of the packet and put a speech bubble coming from it that says "F**k the Jews!", if for no other reason than to point out the absurdity of the idea that a cookie can be racist. And also because it's not the type of racism they're talking about.
Wow... and I just typed "that a cookie can be racist". Nothing will top that this week. Nothing.
Breotan wrote: Watermelon and fried chicken are the two big "racist" charactures of the african-american diet. Outside of America, all this drama probably makes no sense whatsoever.
Implying that it makes sense anywhere, even if you know the context.
After a really rough day, I read this. I no longer have any faith in humanity.
Yes Oreos are indeed racist and anyone getting them is a racisty racist. In order to relieve you of your guilt PM me and I will give you an address where you can send them for disposal. I am quiet and discreet and you can free yourself of your racist ways you racists.
Anyone remember the Drawn Together episode where they made penciles with watermelon taste to purposefully make all black students fail since they ate their pencil and thus could not fill in the questions in their tests?
insaniak wrote: Well, I'm confused... what about watermelon is racist, exactly? The twitter comments posted in the article mention it as if it should be self-evident. Is this some obscure american thing?
It's a racist stereotype that black people love watermelon, but yeah it's weird one too.
All Southerners love watermelon.
Did you know if you cut a hole in a watermelon you can dump a pint of vodka into it, let it soak for half a day and eat yourself silly?
We know... but it still doesn't stop the indignant "civil rights" teenagers from freaking the feth out.
I might have to pick these up... I wonder if they're gluten free (easier to get such things in my house considering dad can't eat gluten and has control of the purse strings).
Making watermelon jokes about black people would be racist.
Walking up to a black person with watermelon Oreos and going "look, a cookie just for you!" would be racist.
Making a watermelon Oreo: not racist.
d-usa wrote: Making watermelon jokes about black people would be racist.
Walking up to a black person with watermelon Oreos and going "look, a cookie just for you!" would be racist.
Making a watermelon Oreo: not racist.
What if they only marketed the watermelon oreo in predominantly black areas? Is that racist or just good marketing? Because coolyo is from Minnesota, which has like 2 black people*, Kirby Puckit and some other guy from the Twins, and he can't find the watermelon oreos...
People are truly dumbasses. Not everyone. But people who get offended by cookies...yes. I just ate a big piece of watermelon with my coffee for breakfast. Watermelon appeals to everyone. Whoever finds this Oreo to be racist is short a couple of marbles. Dammit humanity, way to fail another time.
Well, I can (kind of) understand if the standard chocolate cookies were used instead of the vanilla, but really? Seems like a stretch to being "racist"...
timetowaste85 wrote: People are truly dumbasses. Not everyone. But people who get offended by cookies...yes. I just ate a big piece of watermelon with my coffee for breakfast. Watermelon appeals to everyone. Whoever finds this Oreo to be racist is short a couple of marbles. Dammit humanity, way to fail another time.
I never really understood the racist element of these things too (Watermelon, Fried Chicken, and now Oreo?).
I went to school in the City in St. Louis (huge black population) and I've asked these questions, how are they racist? They're fething awesome food.
But, then again, I love me some Soul Food... hmmmmmmm chicken fried steak, collard greens and peach cobbler. Nothing like it.
mega_bassist wrote: Well, I can (kind of) understand if the standard chocolate cookies were used instead of the vanilla, but really? Seems like a stretch to being "racist"...
Not even with the chocolate cookies is it racist even in a "I can kind of see it". Cookies have no prejudice* regardless of flavor, shape, texture, or heartwarming message and lucky numbers... Also serious, chocolate and watermelon? Please that's disgusting it probably never made it to blind tests or demographic reviews.
sebster wrote: I have no idea why anyone would want an Oreo flavoured like watermelon, but if some food scientist could invent an Oreo that tasted like fried chicken I would give him all my money.
Icarusthepilot wrote: The cookie part is white, which confuses me even more as to how someone can call this racist.
I think the thought process has to be something like this:
Oreos are black and white cookies. But they're predominantly black, and the white stuff is the 'best part'. So oreos fundamentally are a 'black' cookie, but with enough 'white' to make them acceptable, like Al Roker or Bryant Gumble.
Watermelon is the blackest of black stereotype foods. So now we've got a 'black' cookie with a 'black' filling. It's basically the Malcom X of cookies.
BUT THEY MADE IT WHITE. NOW IT'S THE TRAYVON MARTIN OF COOKIES. WHITE MAN NABISCO CRACKER BE HATIN HOMZ.
kronk wrote: Someone probably weighed the fething things. One by one. Then wrapped and labeled them...
After picking the thing off a tree, I really doubt a single person was involved in the process, not when the final selling price was 16p.
There's likely some highly sophisticated assembly line weighing each banana, putting it on a foil tray, wrapping it, then applying a price based on that original weight. This is the future of robotics at work, and it's actually lame and kind of stupid.
insaniak wrote: Well, I'm confused... what about watermelon is racist, exactly? The twitter comments posted in the article mention it as if it should be self-evident. Is this some obscure american thing?
It's a racist stereotype that black people love watermelon, but yeah it's weird one too.
Watermelon and fried chicken are the two big "racist" charactures of the african-american diet. Outside of America, all this drama probably makes no sense whatsoever.
After reading that article I'm thinking chicken in a biskit is racist.
It's chicken flavoured and the spelling of biskit is making me think ghetto. Are lots of snacks out there racist? I seem to remember growing up on gollywog biscuits.
My family is German and Polish, and I am a 4th or 5th generation American. I'm about as white as white could be. All that aside, I would kill a man to get some good fried chicken, love watermelon, grape kool-aide, and rap music. Those stereotypes have never made much sense to me.
Also, on a side note, my best friend is Iranian and his dad has such an unhealthy obsession with Oreos that it drives his wife crazy. He came over to the states first to get everything ready for their family, and when his wife came with their daughter, she had told him to have everything ready. When they got to the apartment he was renting, my buddy's dad was extremely proud that he had just gone to the grocery store to get a bunch of food. My buddy's mom opened the cupboards to find them filled with oreos and opened the fridge to find nothing but milk. Needless to say she was not too happy. Also, the first time I visited their house, his dad offered me a plate of oreos that he keeps for guests as if they were foreign delicacies.
insaniak wrote: Well, I'm confused... what about watermelon is racist, exactly? The twitter comments posted in the article mention it as if it should be self-evident. Is this some obscure american thing?
I think that it's the whole combining watermelon flavors, with an oreo....
In many circles, as a slightly racist joking term, and oreo is: someone who is black on the outside, and yet, they love things that "only white people like"... Often times, at least these sorts of people I've worked with, we'll give them other nicknames like Carlton, or Carl Winslow (the first one was because there was a dude in my class who definitely met this term, grew up in a golf town and was completely naive to a large portion of typical black stereotypes... the other one, well, he looked like Carl Winslow from that TV show)
Ensis Ferrae wrote: In many circles, as a slightly racist joking term, and oreo is: someone who is black on the outside, and yet, they love things that "only white people like"...
insaniak wrote: What are these things that 'only white people like'...?
Beats me
Was the clip Whembly posted Undercover Brother?
White People "like" the following: Mayo, Khakis, wonder bread, mac n' cheese... Feth me I thought this would be easier .
But the comment about being an "oreo" and being black on the outside and being white on the inside is more of someone that doesn't act "black". They don't like hip-hop, they don't like "the hood" they want to be successful in "traditionally white careers", etc... It's all rather foolish and silly, much like the comment of "twinkies" those that are yellow on the outside but white on the inside, when talking about Asians that act "white".
Can't we all just eat our unhealthy food together?!
But the comment about being an "oreo" and being black on the outside and being white on the inside is more of someone that doesn't act "black". They don't like hip-hop, they don't like "the hood" they want to be successful in "traditionally white careers", etc... It's all rather foolish and silly, much like the comment of "twinkies" those that are yellow on the outside but white on the inside, when talking about Asians that act "white".
Can't we all just eat our unhealthy food together?!
I tried these cookies yesterday and they are quite good if you only have two or three, which probably all anyone should have in a sitting anyway. Excellent with iced tea, not racist in the slightest.
Manchu wrote: I tried these cookies yesterday and they are quite good if you only have two or three, which probably all anyone should have in a sitting anyway. Excellent with iced tea, not racist in the slightest.
Manchu wrote: I tried these cookies yesterday and they are quite good if you only have two or three, which probably all anyone should have in a sitting anyway. Excellent with iced tea, not racist in the slightest.
Sweetened, or un-sweetened ice tea?
There's only one way to make it in Virginia... cold .
Most folks in VA drink sweetened iced tea. I was ruined on it in college because the dining hall workers put so much sugar in tea it was like they were trying to make syrup. Plus I think tea has a natural sweetness to it. In any case, the cookies are sweet enough so I'd guess they're better with unsweetened iced tea.
I'd been told that how ice tea is served is a better indication of North-South than the Mason Dixie line
My wife refuses to drink sweetened ice tea, it was funny watching her face on our second date when she ordered it unsweetened, but got sweetened instead. It looked like she was trying to find a good spot to spit it out
insaniak wrote: What are these things that 'only white people like'...?
Beats me
Was the clip Whembly posted Undercover Brother?
White People "like" the following: Mayo, Khakis, wonder bread, mac n' cheese... Feth me I thought this would be easier .
But the comment about being an "oreo" and being black on the outside and being white on the inside is more of someone that doesn't act "black". They don't like hip-hop, they don't like "the hood" they want to be successful in "traditionally white careers", etc... It's all rather foolish and silly, much like the comment of "twinkies" those that are yellow on the outside but white on the inside, when talking about Asians that act "white".
Can't we all just eat our unhealthy food together?!
Correct... Undercover Brother is the movie. A VASTLY underrated movie imo. Another to watch is The Last Dragon.
whembly wrote: Correct... Undercover Brother is the movie. A VASTLY underrated movie imo. Another to watch is The Last Dragon.
And it's on Hulu..... We almost watched that last weekend but Ninja Cheerleaders won instead (so many cliches Yes, they were also pole dancers, but only to pay for college)
AduroT wrote: I looked for these while at the grocery store today.
They did not have them.
I was sad.
Evidently they are Target exclusive items. I got the last 4 packages from the local Target on Friday. They are quite tasty, but definitely more sweet than I prefer. Not that I won't eat them. Just a small dose type of thing.
AduroT wrote: I looked for these while at the grocery store today.
They did not have them.
I was sad.
Evidently they are Target exclusive items. I got the last 4 packages from the local Target on Friday. They are quite tasty, but definitely more sweet than I prefer. Not that I won't eat them. Just a small dose type of thing.
Indeed. Eating more than three or four at once is a good way to make yourself feel like you're going to vomit.
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