I had a marathon 40k session this past weekend and experienced something that kind of threw me off. I’ve played orks a few times and never had this happen, but in one of the games I was getting my dice ready for saves and planning my next turn moves with the ork player calls his waaagh. By call his waaagh, I mean he bellowed this thing at the near top of his lungs, flinging his arms out like he was getting ready to charge himself.
I have to admit, it made me jump.. my first thought being ”crap my models” thinking the table was going to fall. Then seeing this guy flail around while he screamed just kind of made me laugh. Maybe I have been sheltered by mild mannered Ork players but wanted to ask if it is common for Ork players to call their waaagh this way?
At the GW event days, I've heard tell of the store managers and/or TOs getting all of the participants to scream Waaagh as loud as they can when someone is declaring it.
I have a player that does that. Its not really amusing...
Also have a very obnoxious and d-plag that says nice and screams DOOM!! every time someone has to take a check because of his Doom of Malantine. So annoying....
Roci wrote: I had a marathon 40k session this past weekend and experienced something that kind of threw me off. I’ve played orks a few times and never had this happen, but in one of the games I was getting my dice ready for saves and planning my next turn moves with the ork player calls his waaagh. By call his waaagh, I mean he bellowed this thing at the near top of his lungs, flinging his arms out like he was getting ready to charge himself.
I have to admit, it made me jump.. my first thought being ”crap my models” thinking the table was going to fall. Then seeing this guy flail around while he screamed just kind of made me laugh. Maybe I have been sheltered by mild mannered Ork players but wanted to ask if it is common for Ork players to call their waaagh this way?
Sounds like it was actually a good one then, at least. I always get a chuckle out of the mid-puberty 15 year old letting out the squeakiest little waaagh he possibly can.
Actually, I could do without them either way, but whatever.
Unless a cosplay is in the schedule or there are many young kids, shouting out is not common.
I like people getting into character as the next guy but it adds that extra crazy factor to the hobby when observed by others.
Adults acting this out makes people avoid eye contact and back away.
I like a hobby to be inclusive and yelling tends to not to work so well.
Oddly enough, when playing at a friends place much cursing and yelling DOES happen with creative puns thrown in with the Waagh.
kronk wrote: At the GW event days, I've heard tell of the store managers and/or TOs getting all of the participants to scream Waaagh as loud as they can when someone is declaring it.
I would not be amused...
They do. Its really annoying. You're trying to position one model on a wobbly bit of scenery and then "WAAAAAGHH"...
Every time he called a WAAAGH, he would shout it at the top of his lungs.
And dear God-Emperor, did we love it, did we love to hear that manly WAAAAAGH that would fill our hearts with a desire to hack and slash everything in our path.
I want to one day borrow a friend's Orks to be able to shout a WAAAAGH with meaning at least once
PrinceRaven wrote: I wish I had something to say with my Tyranids, they're not exactly the talkable type.
I know the feeling. Necrons now have some personality, but I have no idea what an Overlord would say. They don't have a "unified purpose" for a good shout.
PrinceRaven wrote: I wish I had something to say with my Tyranids, they're not exactly the talkable type.
I know the feeling. Necrons now have some personality, but I have no idea what an Overlord would say. They don't have a "unified purpose" for a good shout.
I imagine Trazyn's catchphrase would be "trollolololol"
I admit to being slightly embarrassed by people that do this. If I wanted to be in cosplay I would be LARPING outside the hall with the other vampires.
PrinceRaven wrote: I wish I had something to say with my Tyranids, they're not exactly the talkable type.
I know the feeling. Necrons now have some personality, but I have no idea what an Overlord would say. They don't have a "unified purpose" for a good shout.
You have to decide on the personality of your Overlord.
Might I suggest Napoleon Bonaparte from Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure?
That way, you can point at an enemy unit on the table, sniff slightly, and say "Blow zem up."
I'm kind of mixed in my opinion on this matter.....
I've seen it done in my local store and well.... part of me applauds them for their enthusiasm and the other half shakes my head that the 40k player stereotypes are somewhat true.
Then again I'm the type that secretly wishes everyone playing 40k was down to earth, sociable, and dressed nicely.
at my local (well, was my local ) before an apocolypse match we would gather the imperium side and the xenos side. imperium must shout "FOR THE EMPEROR" as loud as possible, and xenos must do "WAAAGH!" as loud as possible. loudest side goes first.
lemme just say that most of the club is on a backstreet on beach road, and when we did "WAAAGH!" we did get some people jumping....
I would say that if us ork players just raise our voices a bit its fine, as long as it doesn't frighten anyone or distract people from their game (unless they are tolerant or they want you to be extra fluffy )
I find it amusing when people do this, noting like seeing a big burly Ork player below WAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGHHHH. Makes my wargamer hearth all warm and fuzzy
When the old manager was still around at our local GW, and we finished a campaign with an Apocalypse match of Order vs Disorder, it was customary to hear battle cries raging at the beginning of every turn, except the Nids, DE and Necrons.
Cries of "For the Emperor!" "Blood For the Blood God!" "For the Greater Good!" "Die Heretic!" and "Death to the False Emperor!" were constantly scaring off customers. But did we care? No! Because we were waiting. The Orks had theirs, but they had to collectively decide what turn it would be. Funny enough, the biggest, and beefiest guy always got to choose :/.
When we reach that moment. Silence. The ork players drew in their roars. The players all coward, shielding ears and newly built models lest the glue being unstuck. The staff drew in theirs. The manager counted to three.
Now, this GW is in a large shopping centre in a captial city cebtre, near the exit to be precise. Its calm, mellow. Staff come and go. Never, not one single year are the security prepared for the cries. But never do they come.
This year, however, something has changed. A new Ork player has stepped up, packing Ghazkull, and makes the call on turn 2!
Im an ork player and i dont do it purely because of the way my voice works lol. I have no vocal training and i speak casually with the bottom of my throat so its very deep. I usually hurt my throat if i raise my voice too high.
Its definitely a thing though, my friends were constantly trying to get me to do it when i used my orks. Not to mention we are playing in a spare room of a dormatory, screaming is not a valid idea lol
I love the idea, and I practice it myself. Sure it either makes the guy seem awesome or hopeless, but you got to give kudos to the guy who decides to throw his dignity aside and scream an incomprehensible word at the top of his lungs.
Have to admit though, despite not normally doing it, if i actually follow through with my plans to make an ork cosplay costume you can bet on it that if i see a random IG or Marine cosplay i am charging them screaming WAAAAGH! hoping they play along and "Overwatch" me lol
daedalus wrote: I'm now picturing a tasteful "Waagh" done by a classy ork with a walrus mustache and waistcoat.
*Checks his pocketwatch*
*Mustache warbles*
"Hear hear! Waaagh! Waaagh, I say!"
Another ork responds sips tea and responds with, "Indeed, verily!"
Are these the orks that looted a steam tank??
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Da Kommizzar wrote: I love the idea, and I practice it myself. Sure it either makes the guy seem awesome or hopeless, but you got to give kudos to the guy who decides to throw his dignity aside and scream an incomprehensible word at the top of his lungs.
Take up Kendo, you try to yell loud enough to make your opponent flinch as you whack him with a stick, most glorious! (MEN! <hit head>, KOTE! <hit wrist>, DO! <hit stomach: disembowel> )
All of us a our local game do these kinds of things! Our Orc player does an awesome WaaaaaaaaaaaG! It is so good we must provide prior warning to other patrons who are not aware of what we are up to! I bellow "For the Emporer!" on the assault phase of my Termies. And my youngest son shouts "For the Greater Good." It is all in good fun...
I can see where as a group if you do it, it could be fun. I little warning for the average person is nice.
I figure as we add more and more players to the group we are bound to get a few more "vocal" battlecries. I never see it at the FLGS but there is only ever a single game going on because of the other table is fantasy players.
PrinceRaven wrote: I wish I had something to say with my Tyranids, they're not exactly the talkable type.
SCREEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!
I also downloaded a soundboard of Movie Monster Noises for when I feel like it.
My Tyrant roaring like Godzilla (2000) when he slays the enemy warlord, or a Prime roaring like a Jurassic Park T-Rex in a challenge is a lot of fun
Oh man, that has to my favorite roar. When I'm on the "imaginative mood" and I imagine something roaring, that's the sound that always pop up in my mind That must be awesome in the "battlefield"
As one of the three Ork players at my local group I am the only one who wagghs,.. I never did it for a long time, because I never declared it. Now... now when I do it.. my foe just completely thrown off. The tau guy kept checking to make sure I wasn't gunna smack him when I did it. His movements becomes disoriented and things. It really digs deep in the players when you do it. Forever!
If there's 400 boyz on the table in an Apoc game, if you don't bloody well call out your WAAAGH in a most Orkly fashion, by the God Emperor himself I will beat you to death with a metal carnifex.
Generally we play in my game room amidst snifters of scotch, pipe smoke, and classical music.
This is my preferred method, but without the smoke. Also, I prefer bourbon. But your heart is in the right place.
To each their own.
I'm actually finally getting over my fear of bourbon, and easing back into it via Maker's Mark, but that actually IS the usual setup while playing 40k.
Me too, but i wish orks had more viable strats. Fun-wise you can do just about anything but if you go against a competitive list youre doomed. Cant wait for a new dex.
On the fun-list side, gonna run Old Zoggy against my friend and try to squigify his beloved Blackheart lol
Sounds good to me. The guys I play with don't generally do much in the way of battle cries (don't have armies that lend themselves to it, except one guy has Blood Angels).
As a Tau player I tend to be more calm in my exclamations, but I did get to go crazy last game. A guy drops the doom in a spore and it ends up landing perfectly in the middle of my gunline. It was at that point I did something incredibly stupid and intercepted with my riptide's strength 8 pie plate. Right before I roll the scatter dice I just yell "on my coordinates, for the greater good!". I killed it...and half a squad of fire warriors. Fair trade if you ask me.
I have a pair of friends who both enjoy chaos...if someone says one of their trigger words one of them will yell "blood for the blood god!" And the other will follow it up with a criminally mundane "skulls for the skull throne"
PrinceRaven wrote: I wish I had something to say with my Tyranids, they're not exactly the talkable type.
Just yell SCREEEEEEEEEEEEEEE, or get a whistle.
I have an MP3 player loaded with ripped DOW 2 Tyranid noises and just play them out loud if my opponent wants it.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Relic nids seem to be fond of the SSSSHHEEEEEEEEEWOOONNN noise. Pratically every nid unit makes some variation of it.
Ahh, the waaagh, one of the core reasons I really want to play orks (plus with codex creep, orks should be beatsticks in their 6th edition).
when i play an ork opponent who just says "and i'm declaring a waaagh". I just look at them and say "declaring what?" until they use their big boy voices. It's not right and proppa!
Jokes aside, I love to give thematic voice to the imperial guard orders.
When i play my imperial guard i like to read the blessings and benedictions from the Imperial Guard Uplifting Primer, it really sets the mood before i let 20-30 valiant soldiers draw fire from my more valuable artillery pieces.
Now if i recall, wasnt it waaaaay back when if you played Orks the rules actually required you to shout Waaaagh and 'ere we go!?
I used to yell the Waaagh! at the top of my lounge as well, but once it made a kid dive under the gaming table, hurting himself in the process and almost knocking the table down, so I kind of let that habit go
When playing the War of Armageddon campaign though, we had four orks players declaring their Waagh! during the battle of Hive Hades in the old-fashioned manner. It's awesome when a GW store full of people suddenly becomes absolutely silent for a few seconds
Most of the players that I know that don't do it.. are all new'ish to 40k like myself. It was a long time Vet that screamed it out. I wonder if time played has anything to do with it.
Diving under a table.. that must have been impressive.
I would love it in local more friendly tournaments, but not in any sort of serious tournament. It would be cool for like the championship game, not for every single game though because it would get old
I admit to being slightly embarrassed by people that do this. If I wanted to be in cosplay I would be LARPING outside the hall with the other vampires.
We had a LARPer that played an Orc that would Waaaaagh! as he charged into battle. Believe me, it's more impressive if you are running full tilt with a weapon in 35 pounds of armor, rather than sitting at a table. But then we are a full contact LARP, too, not a group of vamps, and he even had the big toothed lower jaw plate on his armor.
We had a LARPer that played an Orc that would Waaaaagh! as he charged into battle. Believe me, it's more impressive if you are running full tilt with a weapon in 35 pounds of armor, rather than sitting at a table. But then we are a full contact LARP, too, not a group of vamps, and he even had the big toothed lower jaw plate on his armor.
Makes me think of the SCA, which is a group of larpers that play medieval wearing legit armor n such. It gets kinda brutal even though theyre well protected and only use heavy sticks not metal blades.
Almost got involved but im in the Airforce so doing something like that isnt easy due to the "risk" since they view skateboarding dangerous.
Anybody who pops their monocle over a right proppa WAAAGH needs to lighten up. That said, I don't usually do *top* of my lungs if I'm in a public space. I find it more polite to cup my hands around my mouth so that it amplifies forward and my opponent gets the most of it.
I used to play Legend of the Five Rings CCG tournies, and for the regional championships every round would be commenced with everyone in the hall doing a banzai yell. Now that was something.
The GW that used to be at the mall near my house once did a massive WAAAAGH!!! yell with everyone in the store, they got complaints from the other end of the mall.
I feel it's tradition to yell Waagh when declaring it. Me and my friends have been doing this for 15 years and it always brings a smile to our lips. Not that it's funny but it just feels right
I think you should just roll with it and have fun, I play Tau, but I refer to my squads by their designations and some times actually issue orders, I've even done the occasional
"for tau'va".
However, if your orky friend is too close and loud, just gently ask him if he could be a little less close and maybe give you warning or do it a little less often.
Generally we play in my game room amidst snifters of scotch, pipe smoke, and classical music.
This is my preferred method, but without the smoke. Also, I prefer bourbon. But your heart is in the right place.
To each their own.
I'm actually finally getting over my fear of bourbon, and easing back into it via Maker's Mark, but that actually IS the usual setup while playing 40k.
Rowan's Creek, my friend. On the rocks. My hands down favorite, and it's similarly priced to Maker's Mark (about $25-30 per 750mL)
I hate this when I hear it. I play 40k, and i don't want to hear a sudden and loud yell of any of the games tag lines - Waaaagh, For the Greater Good, Blood for the BLood god, etc.
Other mini gamers don't either that are playing other games. Neither do the card players. Neither do the RPG / Board gamers.
It's one thing if you're in your own house or apartment (god help your poor fething neighbors, by the by), but in the game store, it's one of those breaches of normal etiquette that gets gamers stereotyped into what they get stereotyped.
While we're at it, let's hit a common refrain from those that do this - "well sports fans can yell at sports games".
Next time you have 65,000 40k players in one place, feel free. Until then, inside voices only please.
Haight wrote: I hate this when I hear it. I play 40k, and i don't want to hear a sudden and loud yell of any of the games tag lines - Waaaagh, For the Greater Good, Blood for the BLood god, etc.
Other mini gamers don't either that are playing other games. Neither do the card players. Neither do the RPG / Board gamers.
It's one thing if you're in your own house or apartment (god help your poor fething neighbors, by the by), but in the game store, it's one of those breaches of normal etiquette that gets gamers stereotyped into what they get stereotyped.
While we're at it, let's hit a common refrain from those that do this - "well sports fans can yell at sports games".
Next time you have 65,000 40k players in one place, feel free. Until then, inside voices only please.
For those of us who used to play in a store called DAKKA DAKKA it was almost mandatory.
It was certainly, for the group photo. I looked through the gallery to see if I could find one of the old pictures of us all but it looks like they're gone now.
Haight wrote: I hate this when I hear it. I play 40k, and i don't want to hear a sudden and loud yell of any of the games tag lines - Waaaagh, For the Greater Good, Blood for the BLood god, etc.
Other mini gamers don't either that are playing other games. Neither do the card players. Neither do the RPG / Board gamers.
It's one thing if you're in your own house or apartment (god help your poor fething neighbors, by the by), but in the game store, it's one of those breaches of normal etiquette that gets gamers stereotyped into what they get stereotyped.
While we're at it, let's hit a common refrain from those that do this - "well sports fans can yell at sports games".
Next time you have 65,000 40k players in one place, feel free. Until then, inside voices only please.
I think you're playing with different card and RPG/board game players than I have.
Thanks to wayback machine I was able to find the picture... then try to upload it.. only to be told that the site already had it? Well I found it none the less.
We all used to gather infront of the logo and scream WAAAGH!!! at every major event. I'm the tall fellow with the shaved head on the right.
its the difference between enthusiastic ork players and bad ork players, it is well acknowledged that 100% of 20% of 10% of the time heartily yelling WAAAAAGGGGHHHHH increses the quality of your rolls by upto 70%
If you are worried about what strangers think of *you* or gamers in general when an opponent yells out Waaagh! in a game you have to really ask yourself why it matters? Who cares what strangers think? What you should be concerned about is why is your opponent clearly that much more immersed in the game and its environs than you are that you are getting annoyed at them for effectively "being in character"? Instead of bemoaning it try and immerse yourself that deeply in your army instead. Get *that* into the game and you won't care one bit that your opponent is yelling Waaagh! and will be shouting at him to bring it and telling your troops to "hold on boys! here they come!".
Let's face it an opponent can call exactly *1* Waaagh! in the course of a game so it isn't like they are screaming Waaagh! for hours on end constantly. Unless most of the players in your FLGS also play orks that makes it a pretty rare thing indeed. Why get so upset about it? When I hear that and I am playing a card game or a board game my first thought is that someone is having a good time playing 40k. The second thought is that someone is about to get stomped. Neither have anything to do with annoyance or anger over someone having the "nerve" to yell out like that in the game store. It is a game store for heaven's sake, not a bloody library.
If you're playing Orks and *not* screaming WAAAAGH! at every opportunity, then you're playing Orks wrong.
Same with your Khornate armies... if I don't hear "BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD! SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE!" at least once a game... you are an embarrassment to the Ruinous Powers.
This is a game. Played with plastic toy soldiers. It's meant to be fun. If you aren't having fun with it, why the feth are you playing it?
My 10 year old son tries to WAAAAAGH!!!! when he plays his Orks....its kinda cute. The battle cry he came up with for his Necron Scarabs however..........every single time makes me wanna grab a can of Raid. "It buggy lunch time!!" It generaly means he is about to mass assault one of my vechiles with a swarm of Scarabs that I didnt get killed fast enough. For some reason my Dreadnaughts, Razorbacks, Rhinos and Drop Pods tend to go squish. Which then proceeds to make him giggle like a mad sciencetist!! Other then the fact that it means I lost troops its kinda cute and fun to watch.
At my LGS, when an orc player bellows WAAAAAAAGH, all the other orc players echo it. Also, we take a picture at the end of each tourney, with the kicker that we are all shouting WAAAAAAGH and making mean orc faces.
Its all done in good fun, there are way nerdier things they could be doing.
I'd like to think that a roight proppa Orc player is a little bit like his orcs, a motley character who has mannerisms to him. Its orcs, they work on the science that wat they believe is true. The red ones go faster, the blue ones are lucky and the yellow ones have more dakka. a proper orc player ofcourse has red dice for when he moves through terrain, charges or runs. Yellow dice for when he shoots you and blue dice for when he REALLY needs to make his saves. Vocalising your waagh is part of the army. and yes its mostly veteran players that do it because you know what, the older you get the less embarressed you are by what you play. Its only proper to waagh at the top of your lungs, anything else and your not playing orcs. It used to be a rule that unless you did this you couldn't declare a waagh and for the veteran orc player this is a stone cold truth.
kronk wrote: At the GW event days, I've heard tell of the store managers and/or TOs getting all of the participants to scream Waaagh as loud as they can when someone is declaring it.
I would not be amused...
I'm sure that wouldn't help reputation when a group of non-wargamers walk past the games workshop window and look in to see a dozen people yelling and pretending to be an ork.
migs6357 wrote: I'm sure that wouldn't help reputation when a group of non-wargamers walk past the games workshop window and look in to see a dozen people yelling and pretending to be an ork.
Who cares what people walking past the shop think? Not their hobby so not their business...or our concern.
Got my first, blood for the blood god... wasn't quite as jarring as the Waaagh though. I think now that I am aware the screamers exists... I can expect it.
its kinda cute and fun to watch.
