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Books of Chaos Supplements coming soon FIRST POST UPDATED with PICTURES and COVER @ 2013/08/15 11:19:51


Post by: Rumour Sauce


Im just going to lay this out nice and simple.

Chaos will be receiving some serious treatment very soon in the form of 4 new supplements, I do not have a release date (I couldn't even get an approximate) but what I could get was the following information about what the supplements will do...

- There will be 4 supplements released within short succession, possibly even all at once
- They will be called "The Book of Khorne", "The Book of Nurgle", "The Book of Tzeentch" and "The Book of Slanesh"
- They will work for both chaos space marines AND chaos Daemons in a very unique way
- each will have its own unique warlord traits and some new wargear options

I asked how they work for both codex and the example I was given was something along these lines..
Each book is designed to represent a combined force of daemon and marine all working in the will of their chosen patron, this will be done by allowing players to take units from BOTH Codex: Chaos Space Marines AND Codex: Chaos Daemons without the need to ally so long as they all follow the same god. For example in the book of khorne you can take any unit from either codex as long as it doesnt have Daemon of nurgle, slaanesh or tzeentch or mark of nurgle, slaanesh or Tzeentch.

The source has requested that he stay anonymous but so far I have found him to be quite accusative

UPDATE

After reading the glllowing rumour
http://natfka.blogspot.com.au/2013/09/book-of-tzeentch-supplement-new-gw.html?m=1 on Faeit212 I contacted my source to hopefully get some confirmation. Unfortunately he has informed me that the rumour is not 100% accurate. Here are the responses he gave me:

-there will be no cult terminators as these are easily reprisented by marked terminators. ..
-GW have moved away from the idea of a group launch and will be relasing the digital edition of the book of tzeench in the second half of 2014
( The rubric terminator rumour is likely a result of this next point)
-any CSM unit with both MoT and a bolt weapon may take inferno bolts for an extra cost


I also wanted to add, I have heard people claiming this rumour was made up to mess with people... while I cant reveal my source or give any proof I can say that it is a genuine rumour. We will just have to wait it out and see

SECOND UPDATE!
spoke to my friend this morning. He has informed me that the Book of Tzeentch is currently scheduled for digital release April but will likely be set back into may. He has been part of the playtest group for all 4 "Books of chaos" but due to the modifeid release schedule he has had to shifthis focus to the nook of tTzeentch for now. More details on the other gods should come through soon

THIRD UPDATE!
After seeing the following post on Faeit212 (http://natfka.blogspot.com.au/2013/11/khorne-codex-supplement-with-cover-art.html) I asked my source if he could coment on its authenticity, he said the rules were all wishlisting but the cover image is legit, he sent me the following image as proof:



apparently they have a lot of work already done regarding the four chaos supplements but are just sitting on them until their time in the release schedule comes around


Books of Chaos Supplements coming soon FIRST POST UPDATED with PICTURES and COVER @ 2013/08/15 11:22:09


Post by: Azreal13


Wow!

So...like allies then?


Books of Chaos Supplements coming soon FIRST POST UPDATED with PICTURES and COVER @ 2013/08/15 11:24:49


Post by: Slayer le boucher


That might be interessting, and i really hope that id does happen, but i'm not seeing this happening.

Know why?

Because ONE book supplement for 2 ARMIES, ain't gonna Happen, that would be money loose in GW eyes.

it will be more liekely that we Get a CSm AND a Deamon supp book, each at 40$, but only one for both armies, thats not wishfull thinking, its Fantasy dreaming.


Books of Chaos Supplements coming soon FIRST POST UPDATED with PICTURES and COVER @ 2013/08/15 11:26:17


Post by: SilverMK2


Should have been in the main codex like all the supplements. Just an excuse for GW to gouge even more money out of people.


Books of Chaos Supplements coming soon FIRST POST UPDATED with PICTURES and COVER @ 2013/08/15 11:33:01


Post by: Juggalo17


Please please be true! This would actually be a massive cash cow for GW as in order to play 1 army you would need 2 codexes and a supplement! Screw carrying that around every game lol


Books of Chaos Supplements coming soon FIRST POST UPDATED with PICTURES and COVER @ 2013/08/15 11:40:54


Post by: lord_blackfang


Ha ha ha, pull the other one.


Books of Chaos Supplements coming soon FIRST POST UPDATED with PICTURES and COVER @ 2013/08/15 11:48:15


Post by: fishy bob


A brand new user named "Rumour Sauce" drops this, and doesn't give us a single source.

I think that's funny.


Books of Chaos Supplements coming soon FIRST POST UPDATED with PICTURES and COVER @ 2013/08/15 11:51:28


Post by: Snrub


Yes this is one of those "too good to be true" looking things.


This being your debut post doesn't lend to the credability of your rumour.


Books of Chaos Supplements coming soon FIRST POST UPDATED with PICTURES and COVER @ 2013/08/15 11:59:42


Post by: ph34r


So the only real effect is that taking both types of units doesn't use up your allies selection? Is that really that amazing or necessary to have an entire book for?


Books of Chaos Supplements coming soon FIRST POST UPDATED with PICTURES and COVER @ 2013/08/15 11:59:47


Post by: mjl7atlas


I also have inside news from an "anonymous source" that I have found to be accurate, Space marines will be getting a supplement where they fight xenos and heretics. Moar to follow!


Books of Chaos Supplements coming soon FIRST POST UPDATED with PICTURES and COVER @ 2013/08/15 12:15:59


Post by: Nut's Chiropractor




Yeah, this seems dubious...


Books of Chaos Supplements coming soon FIRST POST UPDATED with PICTURES and COVER @ 2013/08/15 12:19:32


Post by: DarknessEternal


 SilverMK2 wrote:
Should have been in the main codex like all the supplements. Just an excuse for GW to gouge even more money out of people.

The supplement books are an excuse to give the artists work, not the rules developers. They just know they'll actually sell the books if they include two pages of rules.

They aren't expensive rules supplements. They are background supplements that contain a smidge of rules.


Books of Chaos Supplements coming soon FIRST POST UPDATED with PICTURES and COVER @ 2013/08/15 12:25:42


Post by: ZebioLizard2


 Slayer le boucher wrote:
That might be interessting, and i really hope that id does happen, but i'm not seeing this happening.

Know why?

Because ONE book supplement for 2 ARMIES, ain't gonna Happen, that would be money loose in GW eyes.

it will be more liekely that we Get a CSm AND a Deamon supp book, each at 40$, but only one for both armies, thats not wishfull thinking, its Fantasy dreaming.


What would CD even get as allies? They are far more direct in being mono compared to any other race.

Unless it'd be like Book of Khorne Daemons, which I honestly wouldn't doubt.


Books of Chaos Supplements coming soon FIRST POST UPDATED with PICTURES and COVER @ 2013/08/15 12:26:51


Post by: schadenfreude


1 supplement for 2 armies doesn't sound greedy, but 4 supplements for 1 army does sound greedy. Players with a massive chaos collection now need 6 books to play, and we are total sucker chumps willing to dish out the cash. Chaos players are like beasts of nurgle, anytime we get attention from GW we react like it's good attention. Shut up and take my money.



Books of Chaos Supplements coming soon FIRST POST UPDATED with PICTURES and COVER @ 2013/08/15 13:25:15


Post by: ZebioLizard2


 schadenfreude wrote:
1 supplement for 2 armies doesn't sound greedy, but 4 supplements for 1 army does sound greedy. Players with a massive chaos collection now need 6 books to play, and we are total sucker chumps willing to dish out the cash. Chaos players are like beasts of nurgle, anytime we get attention from GW we react like it's good attention. Shut up and take my money.



Why would you need 6? You can only use one supplement at a time!


Books of Chaos Supplements coming soon FIRST POST UPDATED with PICTURES and COVER @ 2013/08/15 13:25:43


Post by: ironicsilence


fishy bob wrote:
A brand new user named "Rumour Sauce" drops this, and doesn't give us a single source.

I think that's funny.


Hes also from the AU and I'd like to believe that the GW trade embargo also covers rumors


Books of Chaos Supplements coming soon FIRST POST UPDATED with PICTURES and COVER @ 2013/08/19 14:35:56


Post by: pretre


fishy bob wrote:
A brand new user named "Rumour Sauce" drops this, and doesn't give us a single source.

I think that's funny.

To be fair, he is the source. He's been added but so far has no history.


Books of Chaos Supplements coming soon FIRST POST UPDATED with PICTURES and COVER @ 2013/08/19 14:44:07


Post by: xruslanx


rumour has little credibility as outlined by others above, but i think it's a cool idea nontheless. I'd definitely get the tzeentch one if it were released.


Books of Chaos Supplements coming soon FIRST POST UPDATED with PICTURES and COVER @ 2013/08/19 14:53:30


Post by: Captain Vyper


Ah Dakka the place where you can come to share something you have heard, with or without foundation but none the less where members line up to kick you in the face and tell you your full of crap. And should your little nugget of knowledge come to pass they don't have the stones to man up and admit it or god for bid offer an apology, cuz we all know more then you. Its a wonder any one even tries to share any more.

Don't see why this is such a stretch. Its very similar to the older dex that allowed sacred numbered units to have all sorts of perks with favored packs of deamons, as well as not deviate when deep striking etc. the inclusion of the fantasy, with the distinction that it would indeed be four books seems like a more logical approach than doing 8 books. I hope something close to this does happen, it might be fun.

come on guys do we have to pelt every guy who makes a new account with labels and upturned noses just because its the geek fashion thing to do? If he is wrong hes wrong and nothing changes, if hes right yeah for us. A little more tolerance would make these thread a lot more pleasant to read. Please?


Books of Chaos Supplements coming soon FIRST POST UPDATED with PICTURES and COVER @ 2013/08/19 14:58:24


Post by: pretre


 Captain Vyper wrote:
Ah Dakka the place where you can come to share something you have heard, with or without foundation but none the less where members line up to kick you in the face and tell you your full of crap. And should your little nugget of knowledge come to pass they don't have the stones to man up and admit it or god for bid offer an apology, cuz we all know more then you. Its a wonder any one even tries to share any more.

Dial down the condescension/outrage there pal. I'm simply saying that he has no history and that that makes it pretty unlikely. The others are merely providing skepticism for a completely unknown poster. As for not giving him credit, the Rumor Tracker specifically 'man's up' and admits that he is right. Does he deserve an apology? Not really. He pays his dues as a rumor monger and posts things and builds up cred (positive and negative). That's how everyone has done it (even hastings started somewhere).

If he is wrong hes wrong and nothing changes, if hes right yeah for us. A little more tolerance would make these thread a lot more pleasant to read. Please?

I agree that people can be nicer, but I don't agree that simply putting out whatever you want re: rumors is okay. Garbage rumors are still garbage rumors. See Ghost21 and TheDarkGeneral. They constantly tried/try to draw attention by posting outlandish stuff and ultimately were just making crap up. We don't need that.


Books of Chaos Supplements coming soon FIRST POST UPDATED with PICTURES and COVER @ 2013/08/19 15:00:47


Post by: Alpharius


There is no singular monolithic DAKKA that does... all of that.

Basically it is just... the Internet.

But yes, Fight that Power, please!


Books of Chaos Supplements coming soon FIRST POST UPDATED with PICTURES and COVER @ 2013/08/19 15:22:58


Post by: CommanderAlexander


I'm really really wishing for this to be true. I run a (very fluffy, not all that competitive) CSM army with Traitor IG allies. I love it, but the only problem is then I can't take Bloodletters or a Bloodthirster, which would not only be nice and fluffy, but would add a bit more balance and competitiveness to my force.

I think faeit212 linked this, albeit with a disclaimer. I dunno if everyone just wants it to happen so badly that we don't listen to reason or something.


Books of Chaos Supplements coming soon FIRST POST UPDATED with PICTURES and COVER @ 2013/08/19 16:41:35


Post by: xole


Ah! Stop giving me dreams! I know they are only there for GW to crush them!

I remember when we got our book. Daemon players said, "Master has given Dobby a codex! Dobby is free!"

And it wasn't a good codex, what with all the random crap in it. But we still tried to appreciate it. We found the diamonds and wondered at them while Eldar got semi-rending basic guns and tau got Riptides.

Teasing us into thinking we are worthy of not zero supplements but four would be mean.


Books of Chaos Supplements coming soon FIRST POST UPDATED with PICTURES and COVER @ 2013/08/19 17:59:01


Post by: Captain Vyper


Dial down the condescension/outrage there pal. I'm simply saying that he has no history and that that makes it pretty unlikely. The others are merely providing skepticism for a completely unknown poster. As for not giving him credit, the Rumor Tracker specifically 'man's up' and admits that he is right. Does he deserve an apology? Not really. He pays his dues as a rumor monger and posts things and builds up cred (positive and negative). That's how everyone has done it (even hastings started somewhere).


Hold my "condescension/outrage" way too often as it is over the last 7 or years I have been on Dakka there pal. Each year more an more people seem to hide behind their PC and spout out what ever they want to who ever they want with no regard for manners or common ( now uncommon) courtesy, "Does he deserve an apology? Not really" fine example right there of now uncommon courtesy, you do someone wrong your supposed to apologize for it. At least that is how I believe most people were brought up. Thanks for helping me make my point. While this thread is just starting and by no means out of hand for Dakka it appears it could heading that way. I am simply stating my own objection to the all too common knee jerk reaction to flame a post ( not even this one in particular) just because you don't thing the rumor is valid, and heaven forbid your new or have a low post count that just makes you all the more suspicions and untrustworthy? Really!?

Just saying it would be nice to read something that wasn't full of that detritus all the time.


Books of Chaos Supplements coming soon FIRST POST UPDATED with PICTURES and COVER @ 2013/08/19 18:20:33


Post by: TyraelVladinhurst


lol....i see then. instead of giving me an iron warriors or night lords supplement they just make one for the gods of chaos, shame


Books of Chaos Supplements coming soon FIRST POST UPDATED with PICTURES and COVER @ 2013/08/19 19:08:52


Post by: Grot 6


 Captain Vyper wrote:
Ah Dakka the place where you can come to share something you have heard, with or without foundation but none the less where members line up to kick you in the face and tell you your full of crap. And should your little nugget of knowledge come to pass they don't have the stones to man up and admit it or god for bid offer an apology, cuz we all know more then you. Its a wonder any one even tries to share any more.

Don't see why this is such a stretch. Its very similar to the older dex that allowed sacred numbered units to have all sorts of perks with favored packs of deamons, as well as not deviate when deep striking etc. the inclusion of the fantasy, with the distinction that it would indeed be four books seems like a more logical approach than doing 8 books. I hope something close to this does happen, it might be fun.

come on guys do we have to pelt every guy who makes a new account with labels and upturned noses just because its the geek fashion thing to do? If he is wrong hes wrong and nothing changes, if hes right yeah for us. A little more tolerance would make these thread a lot more pleasant to read. Please?


High horse is high.


Its more along the lines that the 50.00 codex is that bad that they need to rewrite 4-6 more books to shill to the masses. Not much of a rumor, more of expected news that was pretty much a given.

If you get a chance to pick up Lost and the Damned, and Slaves to Darkness.... You have already seen the future. Only in four or six books instead of a high quality hard back with a metric gak ton of fluff and rules.

Whats old will be new again.


Books of Chaos Supplements coming soon FIRST POST UPDATED with PICTURES and COVER @ 2013/08/19 19:18:20


Post by: pretre


 Captain Vyper wrote:
Each year more an more people seem to hide behind their PC and spout out what ever they want to who ever they want with no regard for manners or common ( now uncommon) courtesy

Welcome to the internet. It has been this way since Eternal September and has shown no sign of reversing course.

, "Does he deserve an apology? Not really" fine example right there of now uncommon courtesy, you do someone wrong your supposed to apologize for it.

Except nothing wrong has been done. Are we apologizing for things that weren't wrong then? Sorry!

While this thread is just starting and by no means out of hand for Dakka it appears it could heading that way. I am simply stating my own objection to the all too common knee jerk reaction to flame a post ( not even this one in particular) just because you don't thing the rumor is valid, and heaven forbid your new or have a low post count that just makes you all the more suspicions and untrustworthy? Really!?

You have a realllllly low threshold for flaming. Nothing in this thread is even CLOSE to flaming.

Just saying it would be nice to read something that wasn't full of that detritus all the time.

I hear magazines are nice. Also, books. If you go on to a discussion board though, you're bound to find discussion. As with most discussions, there will be good and bad. You filter through it, ignore the particularly nasty ones, hit the little yellow triangle for people who break rules and generally enjoy yourself. Or you give yourself a stroke trying to right the wrongs of the world. Whatever floats your boat.

Back to the original topic, however, I think the rumors have about a 50/50 of coming true. If he is proven right, then he will enjoy the benefits of having a good record. If not, he will fade into obscurity. Much with any profession that relies on prognostication.


Books of Chaos Supplements coming soon FIRST POST UPDATED with PICTURES and COVER @ 2013/08/19 20:26:41


Post by: Shamanlord1961


I don't want to get into the creditability debate on the rumor, but from a power scale, I think this would be hard to stomach. The last thing I want to see is 2 units of 10 cultists with 2 bloodthirsters, 3 heldrakes and 3 demon princes. That is before allies mind you. Ally with Black Legion and grab 4th demon prince and a 4th drake, awesome....


Books of Chaos Supplements coming soon FIRST POST UPDATED with PICTURES and COVER @ 2013/08/19 20:35:47


Post by: Sasori


Shamanlord1961 wrote:
I don't want to get into the creditability debate on the rumor, but from a power scale, I think this would be hard to stomach. The last thing I want to see is 2 units of 10 cultists with 2 bloodthirsters, 3 heldrakes and 3 demon princes. That is before allies mind you. Ally with Black Legion and grab 4th demon prince and a 4th drake, awesome....


You would quickly run out of points.


Books of Chaos Supplements coming soon FIRST POST UPDATED with PICTURES and COVER @ 2013/08/19 21:13:02


Post by: Quintinus


Typical Dakka users becoming melodramatic over "rumors", of all things.

If this is true, I'm looking forward to seeing what they will do. I don't have high hopes after the Chaos marine book, however it should at the very least be interesting.


Books of Chaos Supplements coming soon FIRST POST UPDATED with PICTURES and COVER @ 2013/08/19 22:04:29


Post by: Captain Vyper


Welcome to the internet. It has been this way since Eternal September and has shown no sign of reversing course.

You right every one else is jumping off a bridge it must be a GREAT idea! I hear its much easier to be a sheep then a Shepard. Sad really.

Except nothing wrong has been done. Are we apologizing for things that weren't wrong then? Sorry!

If your gonna quote me, make sure you dont change my words around. "should the little nugget", referring to IF it is true, in no language means definite. So IF you do some one wrong. see where I am going here? probably not.

You have a realllllly low threshold for flaming. Nothing in this thread is even CLOSE to flaming.


Was gonna break this one down but I am just going to ask you to read it again.

I hear magazines are nice. Also, books. If you go on to a discussion board though, you're bound to find discussion. As with most discussions, there will be good and bad. You filter through it, ignore the particularly nasty ones, hit the little yellow triangle for people who break rules and generally enjoy yourself. Or you give yourself a stroke trying to right the wrongs of the world. Whatever floats your boat.


Dial down the condescension pal.

You are right, I am wrong, I apologize. I forgot the rule about trolls are gonna troll and no matter how well intentioned you are, one is always goin to come along. Enjoy your bridge.


I hope we do see such a set of books. I hope they are pretty fun to use in our game. I hope that those who do like them will enjoy what they can do with the rules and back ground based army lists. Mostly I hope they are real so the OP can show back up and post another bit of information he has gathered and thought enough to share with the group so he can be granted entrance to the brotherhood that is Dakka. That or we can just start insulting his family or some other nonsense thing like that, but hey welcome to the internet, everyone is doing it.

To the rest of you trying to read this thread as I did in the beginning with the crazy ideal that people should be given a chance before they get dog piled on ( IN ANY THREAD NOT SPECIFICALLY T HIS ONE) I apologize than in my own defense and that of the OP I contributed to the sort of detritus I spoke about earlier. So I will end my commenting on this thread. Sorry guys. Good Day, I shall say no more.



Books of Chaos Supplements coming soon FIRST POST UPDATED with PICTURES and COVER @ 2013/08/19 22:14:36


Post by: Darkseid


Lol, what a trainwreck of a thread!


Books of Chaos Supplements coming soon FIRST POST UPDATED with PICTURES and COVER @ 2013/08/19 22:21:48


Post by: Godless-Mimicry


Oh look, this thread is still a thing.


Books of Chaos Supplements coming soon FIRST POST UPDATED with PICTURES and COVER @ 2013/08/19 22:28:16


Post by: Medium of Death


This just sounds terrible. Too terrible even for GW.


Books of Chaos Supplements coming soon FIRST POST UPDATED with PICTURES and COVER @ 2013/08/19 22:28:21


Post by: MWHistorian


Supposedly each supplement will add more and more rules. I hope this is true because the chaos codex needs some fixing. The BL supplement doesn't seem to fix anything. I'm crossing my fingers that they'll get better.


Books of Chaos Supplements coming soon FIRST POST UPDATED with PICTURES and COVER @ 2013/08/19 22:59:39


Post by: xruslanx


 MWHistorian wrote:
Supposedly each supplement will add more and more rules. I hope this is true because the chaos codex needs some fixing. The BL supplement doesn't seem to fix anything. I'm crossing my fingers that they'll get better.

this sounds suspiciously like youre expecting gw to do something that you know they won't.


Books of Chaos Supplements coming soon FIRST POST UPDATED with PICTURES and COVER @ 2013/08/20 03:23:59


Post by: catharsix


 Darkseid wrote:
Lol, what a trainwreck of a thread!


It went off the rails on the first page even! I wonder if that's a record? I doubt it...


Books of Chaos Supplements coming soon FIRST POST UPDATED with PICTURES and COVER @ 2013/08/20 03:52:22


Post by: livanbard


Looks like the "Tome of" supplement of black crusade RPG.


Books of Chaos Supplements coming soon FIRST POST UPDATED with PICTURES and COVER @ 2013/08/20 12:01:06


Post by: Alpharius


 Vladsimpaler wrote:
Typical Dakka users becoming melodramatic over "rumors", of all things.


"Typical Dakka users"?

There is no such thing.


Books of Chaos Supplements coming soon FIRST POST UPDATED with PICTURES and COVER @ 2013/08/21 07:18:36


Post by: Shandara


A mythical creature like the 'average internet user'.


Books of Chaos Supplements coming soon FIRST POST UPDATED with PICTURES and COVER @ 2013/08/30 07:10:48


Post by: The World XEater


Sounds interesting. ...


Books of Chaos Supplements coming soon FIRST POST UPDATED with PICTURES and COVER @ 2013/08/30 07:14:38


Post by: Soteks Prophet


 Nut's Chiropractor wrote:


Yeah, this seems dubious...


Mmmmmm Natrium *drools*


Books of Chaos Supplements coming soon FIRST POST UPDATED with PICTURES and COVER @ 2013/08/30 07:43:57


Post by: Agamemnon2


 Captain Vyper wrote:
come on guys do we have to pelt every guy who makes a new account with labels and upturned noses just because its the geek fashion thing to do? If he is wrong hes wrong and nothing changes, if hes right yeah for us. A little more tolerance would make these thread a lot more pleasant to read. Please?

Bah humbug. We're "tolerating" the OP just fine. He's not been banned or driven away yet. We just don't like him.


Books of Chaos Supplements coming soon FIRST POST UPDATED with PICTURES and COVER @ 2013/08/30 08:54:44


Post by: Jehan-reznor


If true
{ 50$ per supplement}
else
{BS}


Books of Chaos Supplements coming soon FIRST POST UPDATED with PICTURES and COVER @ 2013/08/30 10:34:51


Post by: marv335


To be honest, I can see this happening, what's more I've been hearing Chaos payers crying out for this sort of thing for years.
Think about it, a supplement that is compatible with two codecies?
Both of which have a loyal following?
If they are produced, I can see them selling in large quantities.


Books of Chaos Supplements coming soon FIRST POST UPDATED with PICTURES and COVER @ 2013/08/30 12:32:22


Post by: Deiyos


That'd be great if this is true. I'd love to see a Khorne supplement. There was a thread in Proposed Rules suggesting something similar so that'd be funny if it was true


Books of Chaos Supplements coming soon FIRST POST UPDATED with PICTURES and COVER @ 2013/08/30 12:56:24


Post by: xxvaderxx


To be honest, this Supplements are becoming rather too much, they have the price of a fully fledged book, for 1 page of rules content. I think supplements would be a grate way to update codexes so that they are not 2 editions behind. Like say Chapter Imperial Turkeys for codex space marines, "this chapter emphasizes bolt gun drill bla bla bla in while using this CT your tactical squads costs X points less per model".
Releasing multiples of this things is pushing it.


Books of Chaos Supplements coming soon FIRST POST UPDATED with PICTURES and COVER @ 2013/08/30 13:26:27


Post by: Deiyos


The codex and supplements are how they pull in most of their money I assume since once you have an army you really don't need to buy much anymore except a for things here and there but for the most part you're done. If they keep releasing new rules though you have to stay up to date and it kind of forces you to buy them. I can't imagine the books cost much of anything to make considering how tiny they are and they sell them uber expensive.


Books of Chaos Supplements coming soon FIRST POST UPDATED with PICTURES and COVER @ 2013/08/30 15:05:39


Post by: xxvaderxx


Deiyos wrote:
The codex and supplements are how they pull in most of their money I assume since once you have an army you really don't need to buy much anymore except a for things here and there but for the most part you're done. If they keep releasing new rules though you have to stay up to date and it kind of forces you to buy them. I can't imagine the books cost much of anything to make considering how tiny they are and they sell them uber expensive.


A- once you have an army you really don't need to buy much anymore except a for things here and there but for the most part you're done.

Defeats

B- The codex and supplements are how they pull in most of their money


Books of Chaos Supplements coming soon FIRST POST UPDATED with PICTURES and COVER @ 2013/08/30 16:12:06


Post by: Deiyos


Confused on what you're trying to prove but once you buy an army they aren't going to make any money from you buying models anymore. Ergo they keep pumping out codex so you have to buy something.


Books of Chaos Supplements coming soon FIRST POST UPDATED with PICTURES and COVER @ 2013/08/30 16:35:24


Post by: baritowned


I love how, despite "Rumor Sauce" only having one post under his name, and all of the outrage/disbelief in this thread, this rumor still got posted to Faeit212...


Books of Chaos Supplements coming soon FIRST POST UPDATED with PICTURES and COVER @ 2013/08/30 16:36:53


Post by: pretre


baritowned wrote:
I love how, despite "Rumor Sauce" only having one post under his name, and all of the outrage/disbelief in this thread, this rumor still got posted to Faeit212...

Faeit will post pretty much anything. It is known.


Books of Chaos Supplements coming soon FIRST POST UPDATED with PICTURES and COVER @ 2013/08/30 16:45:07


Post by: gossipmeng


It would be nice if my nurgle lord and terminators could get FnP


Books of Chaos Supplements coming soon FIRST POST UPDATED with PICTURES and COVER @ 2013/08/31 04:37:42


Post by: Slayer le boucher


The problem is, what does it give more then simply Alling CSM and Deamons really?...

In once case a guy will take 4 CSm units and 3 deamons units, you allready can do that with Allies and vice versa.

Taking only 2 Deamons/CSM units with the reste being CSm/Deamons?, allready can do that through allies, so why would people need another 50$ supplement that allows you to do exactly what you allready can do.

If such a supplement that let you mix Units exist, then it darn well have some new and additional rules to make it worth its 50$...

T5 Crushers with a better armor save then their invul save?...

Actual Khorne Axes that give a S boost..., its pretty ironic that a GD of tzeentch as a better S then a Bloodthirster with his staff...

CSM icons that can be used to DS the Deamons units?

Thats the only way i can see something like that work, and still i do not deem this to be worthy of 50$...


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Post by: The World XEater


I think the man boost that you get from not needing to ally to take both daemons and marines is it allows you to take both and ally guard or ork for example. Chaos playersvwill essentially able to mix 3 armies together in one force. Also we don't know what warlord traits and special wargear will be in it.... Although traits are almost always lame


Books of Chaos Supplements coming soon FIRST POST UPDATED with PICTURES and COVER @ 2013/09/01 00:17:15


Post by: Quintinus


 Alpharius wrote:
 Vladsimpaler wrote:
Typical Dakka users becoming melodramatic over "rumors", of all things.


"Typical Dakka users"?

There is no such thing.

There should be a comma between "typical" and "Dakka", although I'd argue that you would be more likely to find more shared traits of users on this site that would allow one to view an "average" user. Though that's neither here nor there!

I'm not holding my breath for these books given how the Black Legion supplement turned out, hahaha


Books of Chaos Supplements coming soon FIRST POST UPDATED with PICTURES and COVER @ 2013/09/01 00:24:51


Post by: Super Ready


There's a lot to be said for taking the effort to provide evidence to back up your claims - and holding your tongue until you have such evidence.
Granted, this is only a wargaming forum, but rumours and flat-out untruths have been seen to cause real damage because there are people in this world who have the ability to effect that damage, who will believe whatever you tell them.

Case in point - if celebrities are "charged" with something, or even if media reports they've committed a crime without any evidence whatsoever, that celebrity immediately goes down in the public eye. Regardless of whether charges are sustained or dropped, or found not guilty, or if media later admits fault or backtracks. The damage is already done.
Going on different scales, people lose jobs, companies lose contracts and friendships and relationships are broken over similar things.

In short - you're DAMN RIGHT we're going to be unreceptive towards a rumour posted with nothing to back up its validity. This kind of crap needs to be stamped out, and luckily we now have the Internet to help us do it.


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Post by: Whiskered


If this happend I think thry could squeez all of that into one book, and what about chaos undivded? It looks like I and other players would have to get all four books or none at all.

Also I think I would prefer to see chaos as four splited factions, simillary like grey knights and stuff.


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Post by: Slaanesh-Devotee


 Slayer le boucher wrote:
The problem is, what does it give more then simply Alling CSM and Deamons really?...

CSM icons that can be used to DS the Deamons units?


I would love Icons in my units that allowed this.

As someone else said, it would open up another army for allies, and deal with how many Heralds you can have in your force presumably.

Perhaps it would even allow CSM IC's and Daemonic IC's to join each others units. I would love to have my Sorceror escorted by a harem of Daemonettes.


Books of Chaos Supplements coming soon FIRST POST UPDATED with PICTURES and COVER @ 2013/09/03 10:39:26


Post by: Godless-Mimicry


baritowned wrote:
I love how, despite "Rumor Sauce" only having one post under his name, and all of the outrage/disbelief in this thread, this rumor still got posted to Faeit212...


If you look at Faeit accuracy record you would see it's no surprise at all.


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Post by: ThunderFury 2575


If they give us noise dreads and termies, then i am happy.


Books of Chaos Supplements coming soon FIRST POST UPDATED with PICTURES and COVER @ 2013/09/04 16:59:38


Post by: Extreaminatus


I wouldn't mind sonic weapons on dreads, but on terminators? I'd pass.

I'd like to see some better rules for Tzeentch stuff, though. A +1 on invul saves is fairly situational.


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Post by: RiTides


fishy bob wrote:
A brand new user named "Rumour Sauce" drops this, and doesn't give us a single source.

I think that's funny.

This reponse gave me a laugh when I first read it for some reason and did the same again just now... it's too true, although it would be sweet if this turned out to be more than just wishful thinking


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Post by: Ecarhil


After looking at Black legion supplement ı dont think this will add much difference to the army in any positive way.


Books of Chaos Supplements coming soon FIRST POST UPDATED with PICTURES and COVER @ 2013/09/05 11:47:48


Post by: AhrimansBolter


First post was updated I see.

Inferno bolts are all I ever wanted for my Tzeentch terminators!

The post says "bolt weapons". That definately has to mean the combi-bolter, but I hope by some small chance it also means the reaper autocannon. That would make Tzeentch terminators the best marine killers in the game ('cept the heldrake).


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Post by: prankster


Whilst it would be nice, I'm not sure it'd extend to the reaper autocannon, it being a different class of weapon. Though the way it reads at the moment it should apply to heavy bolters, making them all the better for havocs.


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Post by: AhrimansBolter


prankster wrote:
Whilst it would be nice, I'm not sure it'd extend to the reaper autocannon, it being a different class of weapon. Though the way it reads at the moment it should apply to heavy bolters, making them all the better for havocs.


That would still be great. Heavy bolters that are AP3 would shred marines to bits. Unfortunately, I doubt that they would give that inferno bolt option to anything but terminators.


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Post by: Sinful Hero


Rumour Sauce wrote:
UPDATE

After reading the glllowing rumour
http://natfka.blogspot.com.au/2013/09/book-of-tzeentch-supplement-new-gw.html?m=1 on Faeit212 I contacted my source to hopefully get some confirmation. Unfortunately he has informed me that the rumour is not 100% accurate. Here are the responses he gave me:

-there will be no cult terminators as these are easily reprisented by marked terminators. ..
-GW have moved away from the idea of a group launch and will be relasing the digital edition of the book of tzeench in the second half of 2014
( The rubric terminator rumour is likely a result of this next point)
-any CSM unit with both MoT and a bolt weapon may take inferno bolts for an extra cost


I also wanted to add, I have heard people claiming this rumour was made up to mess with people... while I cant reveal my source or give any proof I can say that it is a genuine rumour. We will just have to wait it out and see

Second half of 2014? That's quite a ways off to start hearing rumors about something...


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Post by: pretre


Heh. Genuine rumor.


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Post by: AhrimansBolter


 Sinful Hero wrote:

Second half of 2014? That's quite a ways off to start hearing rumors about something...


It might fall in line with the 3rd or 4th horus heresy book, whichever is supposed to have thousand sons in it. In that case, it makes perfect business sense.


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Post by: Goat


Space Wolves and 1k Sons Suppliment combo release maybe? Wasn't there a rumor that suppliments in the near future will be paired with some army the conflict with? ie Ultramarine suppliment with a hive fleet?


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Post by: happygolucky


Oh yey... another supplement for Ipads.... because everybody has an Ipad...

Pete's sake GW! just make it on paper like everything else and make it easier for everybody to obtain, not asking for too much now am I?


Books of Chaos Supplements coming soon FIRST POST UPDATED with PICTURES and COVER @ 2013/09/05 15:33:13


Post by: pretre


 happygolucky wrote:
Oh yey... another supplement for Ipads.... because everybody has an Ipad...

You know that this was addressed like 6 months ago right? Supplements come out in IOS, epub, MOBI and paper.

You're WAAAY late in your trite complaint. Try 6-9 months ago, they should like it.


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Post by: happygolucky


 pretre wrote:
 happygolucky wrote:
Oh yey... another supplement for Ipads.... because everybody has an Ipad...

You know that this was addressed like 6 months ago right? Supplements come out in IOS, epub, MOBI and paper.

You're WAAAY late in your trite complaint. Try 6-9 months ago, they should like it.


Since when did GW say they were going to put the supplements on paper? they usually just stonewall their fans...

Oh well, I'll just whizz away in my TARDIS then wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee...


Books of Chaos Supplements coming soon FIRST POST UPDATED with PICTURES and COVER @ 2013/09/05 16:12:20


Post by: Azreal13


Rumour Sauce wrote:
UPDATE

After reading the glllowing rumour
http://natfka.blogspot.com.au/2013/09/book-of-tzeentch-supplement-new-gw.html?m=1 on Faeit212 I contacted my source to hopefully get some confirmation. Unfortunately he has informed me that the rumour is not 100% accurate. Here are the responses he gave me:

-there will be no cult terminators as these are easily reprisented by marked terminators. ..
-GW have moved away from the idea of a group launch and will be relasing the digital edition of the book of tzeench in the second half of 2014
( The rubric terminator rumour is likely a result of this next point)
-any CSM unit with both MoT and a bolt weapon may take inferno bolts for an extra cost


I also wanted to add, I have heard people claiming this rumour was made up to mess with people... while I cant reveal my source or give any proof I can say that it is a genuine rumour. We will just have to wait it out and see


In other news, I can't show you any pictures, or, in fact, nobody but me can see it, but I am in possession of a Unicorn! This is true, you wait and see!


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Post by: Shandara


It's a genuine rumor, which is not to say it's genuinely true.


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Post by: demontalons


"-there will be no cult terminators as these are easily reprisented by marked terminators."

This quote alone fills me with so much rage. However if they let terms be led by a sorceror and give them AP3 bolters and auto fearless then they will have given us cult terminators. I don't really believe these rumors personally for 1 reason.

1/ We have never had so much information regarding a supplement so early before.

We barely knew what was going into BL.


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Post by: Chrysis


demontalons wrote:
"-there will be no cult terminators as these are easily reprisented by marked terminators."

This quote alone fills me with so much rage. However if they let terms be led by a sorceror and give them AP3 bolters and auto fearless then they will have given us cult terminators. I don't really believe these rumors personally for 1 reason.

1/ We have never had so much information regarding a supplement so early before.

We barely knew what was going into BL.


To be fair, that's because there's barely anything in BL.

I agree, there's no current way that Marked Terminators can even resemble the god-aligned Cult Terminators. If the AP3 rumour is true I guess you could approximate Thousand Sons ones by attaching an HQ sorcerer, but you'd still be missing Fearless.


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Post by: brassangel


 happygolucky wrote:
 pretre wrote:
 happygolucky wrote:
Oh yey... another supplement for Ipads.... because everybody has an Ipad...

You know that this was addressed like 6 months ago right? Supplements come out in IOS, epub, MOBI and paper.

You're WAAAY late in your trite complaint. Try 6-9 months ago, they should like it.


Since when did GW say they were going to put the supplements on paper? they usually just stonewall their fans...

Oh well, I'll just whizz away in my TARDIS then wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee...


Um...they've said it since they began releasing supplements.

They reinforced it with statements at Games Day North America, and Games Day Germany.

They also said that they begin in digital form to get them out quicker, as their printers are currently packed with Codex and Army Book releases. Furthermore, it doesn't make sense to interrupt those for Supplements that are not only not required for play, but also don't dramatically change the game.

That aside, I wonder if these supplements will come with the fabled plastic Greater Demons we've heard about... Granted, they were internet rumors only, no one has ever confirmed having seen them, so the rage at their absence is unwarranted.


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Post by: Brother SRM


A rumor pointing to the latter half of 2014 sourced from naftka doesn't have a leg to stand on as far as I'm concerned. He'll print literally anything.

I'd love if supplements for each god came out with a plastic greater daemon, but we're yet to see models released for a supplement.


Books of Chaos Supplements coming soon FIRST POST UPDATED with PICTURES and COVER @ 2013/09/07 19:29:57


Post by: Homenutt


What about Warhammer Fantasy? Iwould love to run beastmen and demons in my Khorne army.


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Post by: ZebioLizard2


 Homenutt wrote:
What about Warhammer Fantasy? Iwould love to run beastmen and demons in my Khorne army.


Actually you can! The same book that has Chaos Dwarves has a thing about running a Horde of Chaos (Aka, the former before it split). Some of the chaos players here have used it to interesting effect.


Books of Chaos Supplements coming soon FIRST POST UPDATED with PICTURES and COVER @ 2013/09/08 06:40:21


Post by: Homenutt


Which Chaos Dwarf book the Forgeworld one?


Books of Chaos Supplements coming soon FIRST POST UPDATED with PICTURES and COVER @ 2013/09/09 18:10:07


Post by: baritowned


 Godless-Mimicry wrote:
baritowned wrote:
I love how, despite "Rumor Sauce" only having one post under his name, and all of the outrage/disbelief in this thread, this rumor still got posted to Faeit212...


If you look at Faeit accuracy record you would see it's no surprise at all.


I actually only started going on Faeit roughly 4 or 5 months ago, I used to only come here for my news/rumors...

Also, I've been keeping count of how many times he has posted Sauce's "rumor". The count is up to 3 now


Books of Chaos Supplements coming soon FIRST POST UPDATED with PICTURES and COVER @ 2013/09/09 18:43:21


Post by: BrassScorpion


so far I have found him to be quite accusative
I assume this was meant to end in the word, "accurate". Accusative is something totally different and hopefully does not apply here.

These books sound like fun and splitting them into four Chaos books is great I suppose for hobbyists who only collect one Chaos power. However, it also seems like another way of really milking the players who collect more than one Chaos power model range.

Warhammer has so many accessories now and more new ones being released faster than ever before and all of them like the main rules and Codex books will be obsolete in a few years. Many people will be left with more useless books in a few years than ever before when the next game system revisions occur. Example, the new Apocalypse Damnos supplement. It's great, but thin for $33 and it's going to really add up as more are released, then leave customers with a giant pile of obsolete supplements just for Apocalypse when the rules get revised again. That's going to be a very expensive pile of useless books in roughly four to six years.


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Post by: AhrimansBolter


I just want my dream of running my juggerlord with bloodcrushers. Makes for a cool looking unit.


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Post by: ClockworkZion


Interesting. The question is that if the rules are incorrect, then what will be the rules in this book?


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Post by: Sigmundr


That "proof" image is a fake. There is another thread here that deals specifically with the Khorne supplement for CSM, and a full version of that image was shown, but said to come from deviantart.


Books of Chaos Supplements coming soon FIRST POST UPDATED with PICTURES and COVER @ 2013/11/23 15:34:31


Post by: Slayer le boucher


I really wanted to believe it, but the photoshoped screenshot just killed it for me.

I've just checked GW site there is no Khorne supp in the digitale section like showed n the screenshot.

3he onyy thing i see is this damned clan raukan supp...


Books of Chaos Supplements coming soon FIRST POST UPDATED with PICTURES and COVER @ 2013/11/23 15:54:54


Post by: Bloodwin


One thing I would love to see from this supplement would be Angron and the other primarchs as demon princes.