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bc's Retro Ultramarines -- Blood Angels and a bigger, better blog. @ 2013/12/05 19:06:52


Post by: brushcommando


Okay, so I started 40k in late 4th edition and completely missed out on the brightly colored mayhem that appears to have been known as edition 2. I have, however, come into possession of several of the earlier rulebooks/codices from this time period and I have to say I'm feeling a little nostalgic. (which is weird, as again, I missed out on this edition) So, as can often happen in this hobby, I decided that I would see if I could scrounge up any relics on ebay. One week and several hundred dollars later, I had managed to acquire the following:
3x Tactical Squads of 2nd edition marines (the push-fit ones from the boxed set)
A partial tactical squad of the same (I intend to use them sternguard vets)
A Space Marine Captain
A Metal Veteran Sergeant
An original Rogue Trader Predator (spoon top) and Rhino, both still in the box, unassembled.
A squad of old-style terminators. (2nd/3rd edition)

So anyway, all this is to say that I have decided to paint up some old-style ultramarines in all their bright, primary-colored goodness!
Here is the first model. I would love to here y'alls thoughts!

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bc's Retro Ultramarines -- Blood Angels and a bigger, better blog. @ 2013/12/05 19:08:16


Post by: BrotherOfBone


Where's the bright yellow? Far too weathered for retro! It needs to be 100% more neon >=D
But anyway, solid paint job, love the old models ;P


bc's Retro Ultramarines -- Blood Angels and a bigger, better blog. @ 2013/12/05 20:18:09


Post by: Warboss_Waaazag


That model is certainly super old skool. Nice paintjob


bc's Retro Ultramarines -- Blood Angels and a bigger, better blog. @ 2013/12/05 20:46:42


Post by: Nevelon


I agree, he needs to be cleaner and brighter. Also, take note of classic basing techniques, they helped define the era.

Always fun to watch retro nostalgia projects. Although rose colored glasses are one of the few things that make the 2nd ed push fit "I love my bolter" marines passable. I have two squads of the guys, not my favorite sculpts.

Interested to see how this turns out, good luck!


bc's Retro Ultramarines -- Blood Angels and a bigger, better blog. @ 2013/12/05 20:57:35


Post by: bebopdrums2424


Yup. You need about 20 pots of goblin green


bc's Retro Ultramarines -- Blood Angels and a bigger, better blog. @ 2013/12/05 22:12:50


Post by: brushcommando


Thanks for the feedback!
Will definitely try to brighten up the yellow on the next model. As far as the bases -- goblin green is not going to happen, as I really don't like the look (one part of the retro look that doesn't make me feel nostalgic). I tried to hint at it by using green as a base color, but I guess the end result is going to have some stylistic anachronisms. Also, once I have the look I want to usefor sure, I may try painting some modern sculpts in the same scheme and see what I can come up with.


bc's Retro Ultramarines -- Blood Angels and a bigger, better blog. @ 2013/12/07 02:08:57


Post by: brushcommando


Okay, so I had already had this partially painted when I started this project, actually the first truly retro model in my collection. Its still a WIP, but I think I like how it's turning out.
Also, to clarify, I guess the retro-look I am going for is not actually 2nd Ed, but the 2nd Ed models as they were painted for the third edition codex.
As always, I would love some feedback on the paint-job.




bc's Retro Ultramarines -- Blood Angels and a bigger, better blog. @ 2013/12/07 04:12:13


Post by: Warboss_Waaazag


Wow. That old Rhino really brings back the memories for me. Nice, clean construction. I can't believe you managed to get the rail on, too. Mine always used to snap as soon as I touched them, the plastic was so brittle. I really like your models looking old, worn and scuffed, personally. Just because the models are old doesn't mean the paintjob has to be crisp and clean.


bc's Retro Ultramarines -- Blood Angels and a bigger, better blog. @ 2013/12/09 04:09:34


Post by: brushcommando


Well, I was going to be working on the first tactical squads for the army, but winter decided to make a grand entrance and the cold/snowiness of the things is preventing me from spray-priming the miniatures. Instead I decided to start working on this Terminator Librarian I found as an extra in one of my ebay purchases. I think it is probably among the oldest models in my collection. Anyway, I saw the one they did on Tale of Painters and was inspired to try and do this guy justice... Here's where I'm at so far. (also, those of you who said I should go Goblin Green for the bases... you were right. It does look good.)




bc's Retro Ultramarines -- Blood Angels and a bigger, better blog. @ 2013/12/09 06:19:22


Post by: Briancj


There really is something about Goblin Green that not only defines the era, but also looks sharp. A simpler time, when models were put on the table to tell a story, and GMs were part of the process.


bc's Retro Ultramarines -- Blood Angels and a bigger, better blog. @ 2013/12/09 13:59:06


Post by: Nevelon


Nice rhino. I never bothered to put the rails on mine (still in my bits box)

That librarian is old, even by retro 2nd ed standards.

Keep up the good work!


bc's Retro Ultramarines -- Blood Angels and a bigger, better blog. @ 2013/12/10 05:57:51


Post by: brushcommando


Just a little more work on my librarian. Not sure what I'm going to do about the haft of his axe/ what color I'm going to make the power blade. I'm thinking the same low quality NMM gold effect on the axe handle that I used on the chest eagle? Also, most of the power-swords I've seen from the time period are done in red, so I'll probably end up going that route for the blade. Would love the thoughts of someone more knowledgeable about the era.


bc's Retro Ultramarines -- Blood Angels and a bigger, better blog. @ 2013/12/16 21:55:31


Post by: brushcommando


So, haven't had the chance to paint much for the last couple days. I did manage to get this guy at a good price on ebay and have decided that he will be perfect as captain for my force. (the previous captain just got a new backpack and a demotion to veteran sergeant. Anyway, looking forward to painting him up.



bc's Retro Ultramarines -- Blood Angels and a bigger, better blog. @ 2013/12/16 23:41:12


Post by: Feasible


I love this.


bc's Retro Ultramarines -- Blood Angels and a bigger, better blog. @ 2013/12/30 19:56:55


Post by: brushcommando


So I'm wondering how heretical it would be to turn this blog into one about doing a modern (not at all retro) ultramarines army and a retro blood angels force simultaneously? I started painting the tactical marines, got about five done and realized that painting the ultras that color wasn't doing it for me. I love all the shiny brightness, but the actual painting process wasn't fun, which to me is the whole point of the hobby. On a whim I decided to paint one of my push-fit marines in the classic blood angels colors (black rims, yellow eagle) and really liked how it turned out, so I kinda want to put the retro minis I picked up into that project. Anyway, I'm still very new to dakka, so I guess I'd like to know if that's cool? Do I have to get a mod to change the name or something? Any help would be greatly appreciated.


bc's Retro Ultramarines -- Blood Angels and a bigger, better blog. @ 2013/12/30 20:31:46


Post by: Briancj


You can do what you like. The fun police will not punish you.

Go to your FIRST post, hit 'edit' and change the title. Boom! Done.



bc's Retro Ultramarines -- Blood Angels and a bigger, better blog. @ 2013/12/30 22:12:53


Post by: brushcommando


Alright then. So I have changed the name of the blog into something vague enough to accommodate my painting ADD. Without further ado, I present my first painted retro-themed blood angel:


So this is the direction I see the bulk of my retro-minis going. This guy took about half the time that the Ultramarines did and was a lot more fun to paint. That being said, I do still have the dream of owning a the complete second company of ultras someday and will probably pursue that shortly (although with a paint scheme that does not involve the tedious yellow shoulder rims)


bc's Retro Ultramarines -- Blood Angels and a bigger, better blog. @ 2013/12/30 22:53:46


Post by: GiraffeX


Yeah I vote Blood Angels for the retro theme, they look much better. Always go with what you feel is best as you're the one who has to paint them


bc's Retro Ultramarines -- Blood Angels and a bigger, better blog. @ 2014/01/07 17:52:07


Post by: brushcommando


Okay, so the winter weather has prevented me from priming any more models, but I have been quite busy assembling my Christmas goodies. Just wanted to show off a couple of the highlights. For my Ultramarine Army I converted a Captain from various boxed sets.




I know it's a relatively simple conversion, but I like the way he turned out. I also wanted to show off the assembled rogue trader predator kit for the retro blood angels:





There's a lot more to come, but that's it for now. Cheers.


bc's Retro Ultramarines -- Blood Angels and a bigger, better blog. @ 2014/01/07 19:54:40


Post by: bbb


Cool! I love retro minis


bc's Retro Ultramarines -- Blood Angels and a bigger, better blog. @ 2014/10/28 20:13:33


Post by: brushcommando


Okay, so I didn't think I would be resuming this blog. A little while back I sold all of my 40k models including everything I previously showed here. I was pretty sure that I was done with 40k forever, but after lurking around some of the other Ultramarines blogs here on dakka I got the itch and so have decided to resume work. I'm starting from scratch, but thanks to some ebay steals I have a decent sized army on its way again. I've decided to use more of the later models but keep the retro-theme intact. Here is the first combat squad.


What do y'all think?


bc's Retro Ultramarines -- Blood Angels and a bigger, better blog. @ 2014/10/28 20:27:50


Post by: Paradigm


Nice work, I love the mix of newer kits and retro style!


bc's Retro Ultramarines -- Blood Angels and a bigger, better blog. @ 2014/10/28 21:10:11


Post by: JoeRugby


Tidy dude

Some Great free hand in there, I especialy like the U on the knee pads,


bc's Retro Ultramarines -- Blood Angels and a bigger, better blog. @ 2014/11/07 03:56:05


Post by: brushcommando


@paradigm: Thanks! I was pleasantly surprised by how well the new tac squad worked out.
@Joe Rugby: Glad you liked the kneepads. I was trying to mimic the style on the old metal tyrannic war vets.
Now have the second combat squad finished.


I've managed to snag quite a sizeable army off of ebay and there are some genuine retro-goodies in there as well.


More to come.
As always feedback is welcome.
Cheers.


bc's Retro Ultramarines -- Blood Angels and a bigger, better blog. @ 2014/11/07 10:33:09


Post by: Paradigm


Nice work, the squad as a whole looks great!


bc's Retro Ultramarines -- Blood Angels and a bigger, better blog. @ 2014/11/08 08:18:12


Post by: brushcommando


Just a quick update: Next up to get painted is a tactical squad from the 2nd ed starter box that I managed to get cheap off of ebay.





Weather permitting, I should be able to prime them in the next day or so. In the meantime, I hope to assemble the squad's suitable old-school ride...




bc's Retro Ultramarines -- Blood Angels and a bigger, better blog. @ 2015/09/28 00:08:07


Post by: brushcommando


Okay, so I keep dropping this blog and then wanting to re-start it. I keep deciding that I want to be done with 40k, and then inevitably end up re-investing in it. Mostly I blame Gitz and his Mantis Warriors project which keeps drawing me back in with the amazing stuff on it. At any rate, I have decided once again to try my hand at a really big painting project: A Demi Company of Ultramarines! And some Blood angels...and some dark angels... and some space wolves. Also Grey Knights. They'll need somebody to fight... like Orks! And Chaos Marines... and Tyranids... yeah and Necrons! The Tau can come too. Darn Ebay and thier bulk lots of unrelated packages! At any rate, I have been able to resume work on the retro-ultras and begin on some retro blood angels. Hope you enjoy!
First up we have the Assault Squad:

And A Rhino for the Tactical Squad to ride in.

And A Terminator test model...

And a blood angel.

Next up will be a test model for the Dark Angels followed by either the rest of a Blood angel Combat Squad or an Ultramarine Captain.
Well, let me know what you think. Feedback is always welcome.


bc's Retro Ultramarines -- Blood Angels and a bigger, better blog. @ 2015/09/30 17:28:02


Post by: brushcommando


So... the results of my latest ebay binge have begun to arrive. I'm still amassing as many older space marine kits as I can afford/find. At least ones in relatively good condition.
One of the things I find most interesting about this project is that it gives me a chance to explore what the 40k hobby was like well before I was involved with it. I was able to get ahold of the Space Marines: Warriors of the imperium box, which looks to be one of the first all-plastic space marine kits produced after the rogue trader era beakies.



I have a sizable amount of 2nd ed plastic push-fit marines, so these will mostly be assembled as various sergeant models along with a plastic close combat weapons sprue that came with an old techmarine. Using the two together, I should be able to produce a good number of reserve tactical squads just in case I ever decide to fully bow to the collecting madness of going for an entire chapter...

Also arriving was my 1998(?) Pattern Battleforce Box. It came with one of the more recent tactical squads, the old-style plastic terminators, three bikes, a landspeeder, and some ruined terrain. I thought the terrain was a really nice touch, and kind of wish battleforce boxes still looked like that.



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Lastly, I used several of the missle launcher troopers that I have amassed ( I think they come from old paint sets?) to form a retro-style devastator squad. The sergeant was converted from an old bike sergeant torso and the plastic marines mentioned above.



Well there's today's update. Let me know what you all think, feedback is always appreciated.






bc's Retro Ultramarines -- Blood Angels and a bigger, better blog. @ 2015/09/30 17:33:36


Post by: Kid_Kyoto


NIce to see some love for the generally unloved 2nd edition models.

If you're looking for an opp-for those hideous 2nd edition orks would be cool.


bc's Retro Ultramarines -- Blood Angels and a bigger, better blog. @ 2015/09/30 18:40:24


Post by: Nevelon


Looking retro-cool. Always fun to see some history get painted up.


bc's Retro Ultramarines -- Blood Angels and a bigger, better blog. @ 2015/10/01 01:37:21


Post by: brushcommando


Was able to get a little painting time in today and was able to start work on my Ultramarines Captain, He's outfitted such that he can be a generic captain or a stand-in for Sicarius.
Not sure how the NMM is going to work out for his backpack and shoulder pads, but we'll see...



bc's Retro Ultramarines -- Blood Angels and a bigger, better blog. @ 2015/10/07 17:11:57


Post by: brushcommando


Well, I ran out of glaze medium which has ground my painting to a halt until I can re-supply. Didn't realize how dependent I was on that stuff for my painting. Oh well... in the meantime I have continued my stockpiling and assembling frenzy in a desperate attempt to get as much as possible primed before priming weather goes away. First up we have the lmt. edition Heroes of the Adeptus Astartes Box.



This was a nice box, because it gave me the Chapter Masters of all the chapters I am currently working on, plus some generic heroes. the only thing I regret is that it did not come with the banners to fix to their backpacks. (Not really a problem, as I have decided to cut them down to reduce break-ability.) I managed to get a couple of them put together, but was hesitant to start on Logan Grimnar, as he looks to be a little more involved...

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Also, I managed to put together some of the pieces from the battleforce box. I had forgotten what a pain it was to put landspeeders together. ugh.

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A shot of the Ruins.

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And the Bike squad...

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Lastly I have some shots of the first anagonist army I intend to paint, old style Tau Empire. I managed to get a hold of the old army box which contained the codex, a limited ethereal and several actual boxes of units inside. Pretty cool, and it came with an extra devilfish, which was sweet.



Some shots of the contents. I really like the old style illustrations they used to put on the unit boxes. There was some really evocative artwork out there that I find much more enticing (if less practical) than the pictures on the current boxes.

Battlesuits

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Ethereal

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And that's about if for right now, I've got some good weather today, so I hope to get a good amount of priming in if possible.
Cheers.


bc's Retro Ultramarines -- Blood Angels and a bigger, better blog. @ 2015/10/07 23:26:04


Post by: Dreadclaw69


If you think the plastic Landspeeders are bad just wait until you find an old metal one. Not only is it heavy and needs pinned to stay together, but the beast is attached to the flying stand by a thin plastic nub


bc's Retro Ultramarines -- Blood Angels and a bigger, better blog. @ 2015/10/07 23:42:18


Post by: brushcommando


I can imagine. That and the metal dreadnought seem like real nightmares. I had the great eagle model for the Lord of the Rings range and that stupid plastic nub snapped off the very first time I test-fitted it to the base.


bc's Retro Ultramarines -- Blood Angels and a bigger, better blog. @ 2015/10/07 23:51:26


Post by: Nevelon


Old plastic Land speeders are a bit of a bear to assemble. I just put one together not that ago. Assembling my old metal speeder (and dread) are memories lost in time, but not so traumatic to leave scars.

Surprised to didn’t grab some special weapons for the bikes.


bc's Retro Ultramarines -- Blood Angels and a bigger, better blog. @ 2015/10/08 00:20:58


Post by: brushcommando


Eventually I will, but those are the older style of bikers and I don't have as many spare parts for them. The current bikes mix well enough with the old and will be easier to convert with my modern bits. I plan to eventually have the full squad of ten bikers (or eight plus the attack bike) to form the second assault squad of the 2nd company.


bc's Retro Ultramarines -- Blood Angels and a bigger, better blog. @ 2015/10/08 01:14:08


Post by: Bash the Bosh


It's a shame you sold all of your original stuff, but I did the same a few years ago.

So many warm memories seeing all the 2nd ed stuff. Just seeing the boxes takes me back to a time when going to GW was magical.

Great thread. If you want some original Ultra Marine and BA transfers, PM me your address, and I'll send them over to you. No cost to yourself. I'll never use them, so it'll be great for these to have a new life on some great looking figures. Just found an original BA banner still on the backing.

Bash


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bc's Retro Ultramarines -- Blood Angels and a bigger, better blog. @ 2015/10/08 05:58:59


Post by: evildrcheese


Great blog.

Looking forward to seeing more.

D


bc's Retro Ultramarines -- Blood Angels and a bigger, better blog. @ 2015/10/08 11:02:22


Post by: Gapow


The metal Dreadnought is not too bad, having said that I did Superglue it to my hand when I was 13yrs old. It's not exactly light, and I had to try and apply superglue remover with my left hand...........ahhhh the memories.

I do like the feel of the metal one though, more substantial when moving it around the board


bc's Retro Ultramarines -- Blood Angels and a bigger, better blog. @ 2015/10/08 14:53:05


Post by: brushcommando


Had a productive hobby day yesterday and was able to prime and assemble a bunch of models. Got my 2nd Ed Terminator Squad assembled, as well as my Tau Crisis Commander, Devilfish, and a Squad of Fire-Warriors.



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It's been a while since I put any Tau together, and I was pleasantly reminded of what a joy they are. The devilfish is in my opinion, a very elegant model, that takes all of fifteen minutes to properly assemble, and fire warriors are also a very good kit considering thier age ( as long as you don't look to closely at their thigh armor)...

In other news, my glaze medium should be arriving soon, so I should be able resume painting fairly shortly.

Cheers.


bc's Retro Ultramarines -- Blood Angels and a bigger, better blog. @ 2015/11/16 00:13:21


Post by: brushcommando


Soooo... Haven't been able to paint much as work has been a little crazy lately, but I got a package from across the pond this last week and managed to knock out the Sergeant of my Blood Angels Teminator Squad.
Banner Courtesy of Bash


bc's Retro Ultramarines -- Blood Angels and a bigger, better blog. @ 2015/11/17 17:11:40


Post by: Bash the Bosh


You're very welcome matey, It looks brilliant! Just how I remember 2nd edition to be!


bc's Retro Ultramarines -- Blood Angels and a bigger, better blog. @ 2015/11/19 02:13:01


Post by: brushcommando


Okay, so I apologize for the randomness of this blog, but my work on the blood angels terminators has been sidetracked by the arrival of my first Betrayal at Calth box. At first I wasn't sure how the heresy era marines were going to look in the retro style, so I knocked out a test model.





Compared to a modern tac marine...



Must say I am pleased with the result. All of the Calth minis are beautiful, crisp detail, minimal flash...etc.
Anyway, this box is probably going to absorb my attention for the immediate future. I got 5 boxes (Self Control? I don't believe that's a thing right? yeah... somebody made that up...) which I plan to paint as mostly Ultramarines, with maybe one box being different so I can actually play the game ( I'm thinking Salamanders for the other...)
Thoughts and comments appreciated as always.
cheers.


bc's Retro Ultramarines -- Blood Angels and a bigger, better blog. @ 2015/11/19 08:04:17


Post by: evildrcheese


BaC marine looks great. Can't wait to paint my own up.

5 boxes you say? Now that's impressive , looking forward to seeing them all painted up!

EDC


bc's Retro Ultramarines -- Blood Angels and a bigger, better blog. @ 2015/11/19 09:16:04


Post by: TheGiantPeanut


I will be very impressed to see 150 marines painted up! Looking forward to this.


bc's Retro Ultramarines -- Blood Angels and a bigger, better blog. @ 2015/11/20 04:19:31


Post by: brushcommando


Got A little bit of work done on my Calth Squad Sgt. Having a little difficulty with the hazard stripes on his powerfist. Also, apologize for the darkness of the photos. I need to fiddle with my lightbox a little it seems.





bc's Retro Ultramarines -- Blood Angels and a bigger, better blog. @ 2015/11/21 01:41:23


Post by: Bash the Bosh


Looks great matey. The BaC guys look right at home with the retro look. 5 boxes! Wow. They'll look impressive once they're finished.


bc's Retro Ultramarines -- Blood Angels and a bigger, better blog. @ 2015/11/26 02:56:00


Post by: brushcommando


First of all, I want to thank everyone for the positive comments -- they really help me stay motivated. I was able to finish the BaC sergeant today, and am pretty pleased with how he turned out.







Also, I began work on my test model for the cataphracti Teminators. Having a little difficulty there. At first I had him painted up with a lot more yellow/fake gold effect. It was overpowering the blue, so I toned it down some to this point.





Not sure if I want to keep the yellow at all. I've thought about replacing the gold areas in the GW photos with plain silver or simply going all blue, with a red bolter, hazard stripes on the fist and just a white stripe for the helmet in a sort of nod to the RT days. Feedback on this idea is especially welcome. Cheers.


bc's Retro Ultramarines -- Blood Angels and a bigger, better blog. @ 2015/11/27 12:41:42


Post by: evildrcheese


The sergeant looks really good.

The terminator is progressing nicely, the hazard stripes on both help break up the blue.

Keep.it up.

EDC


bc's Retro Ultramarines -- Blood Angels and a bigger, better blog. @ 2015/11/27 21:06:07


Post by: Paradigm


Wow, that Sarge looks great! Good stuff!


bc's Retro Ultramarines -- Blood Angels and a bigger, better blog. @ 2015/11/29 03:24:18


Post by: brushcommando


Thanks guys. I'm still mulling over what direction to take on my Terminators but in the meantime, I have the rest of the first combat squad nearly finished.



Had some fun freehanding stuff onto the kneepads and I liked how the check pattern turned out so, I decided to give my rhino the same treatment. It needed something to give it a retrro-feel anyway.



Not terribly neat, but it gets the job done. Also want to give a shout out to you lamenters players out there. I can only imagine the pain your left shoulder pauldrons must cause you...
Well that's it for today . Cheers.


bc's Retro Ultramarines -- Blood Angels and a bigger, better blog. @ 2015/11/29 10:43:47


Post by: Paradigm


Nice work once again! The pattern on the Rhino definitely works!


bc's Retro Ultramarines -- Blood Angels and a bigger, better blog. @ 2015/11/29 15:51:10


Post by: evildrcheese


Liking the combat squad. The check pattern on both the knee and rhino looks cool. Very effective.

EDC


bc's Retro Ultramarines -- Blood Angels and a bigger, better blog. @ 2015/11/30 02:21:28


Post by: brushcommando


Okay, so just a minor update today. Just knocked out the test model for my salamanders space marines (I'm going to use these guys in place of word bearers so I can actually play the BaC board game.)
I initially went with yellow eye lenses like the salamanders in codex: Armageddon, but decided I didn't like how they looked and opted for red instead. Nothing particularly retro about the scheme, but it doesn't look too out of place next to the ultras.





That's all I managed today. I hope to finish the Ultramarine combat squad soon, and then move on to one of salamanders.
cheers.


bc's Retro Ultramarines -- Blood Angels and a bigger, better blog. @ 2015/11/30 08:17:25


Post by: evildrcheese


Very nice. Did you freehand the flames on the shoulder? They look great.

EDC


bc's Retro Ultramarines -- Blood Angels and a bigger, better blog. @ 2015/11/30 11:47:11


Post by: KernelTerror


Woah, that flame is indeed very nicely executed. So is the rest of the model !


bc's Retro Ultramarines -- Blood Angels and a bigger, better blog. @ 2015/11/30 14:17:45


Post by: brushcommando


Thanks guys. Back in the day I actually had painted a whole battle company of Salamanders (which, sadly, I rage-sold after one of the GW price hikes convinced me I was done with 40k forever -- we see how well that worked out...) so I got a lot of practice perfecting the flame symbol. It was actually kind of nostalgic painting this guy up.


bc's Retro Ultramarines -- Blood Angels and a bigger, better blog. @ 2015/12/01 05:22:32


Post by: brushcommando


Okay, so I've finished the first combat squad of Ultras from BaC except for flock and gravel. I decided to renege on the green bases. I know this is retro-heresy, but for some reason I love the green bases on the blood angels, but can't bring myself to feel right about it on the ultramarines.... Also I apologize for the blurriness of the pic, didn't realize until after i had uploaded...



Also just for fun I thought I would do an army shot in shameless imitation of LDP.



That's it for today. I'm not sure what's next for me. I'm thinking about painting up a trio of contemptors for the Dakka monthly challenge, or it might be a combat squad of Salamanders.
cheers.



bc's Retro Ultramarines -- Blood Angels and a bigger, better blog. @ 2015/12/01 05:35:29


Post by: Stormwall


This is one of the best blogs I've seen so far.

Lovely to see a retro style of painting on a modern miniature, I have been wondering how to incorporate retro with a recently created chapter and this might be the way to do it.

What do you do to get an older looking paint scheme like that, exactly, that has the 2nd Edition feel?


bc's Retro Ultramarines -- Blood Angels and a bigger, better blog. @ 2015/12/01 05:53:27


Post by: brushcommando


@Stormwall
First of all thanks for the kind words. As for your question, I draw inspiration from tracking down old codices and rulebooks from that era. What looks "retro" varies from chapter to chapter, but as a general rules of thumb I would go with these:
Goblin Green Bases (which I cheat on)
Brighter colors in general
Yellow for the barrels of heat-based weaponry (melta and flame) Plasma coils do not glow, but tend to be straight metal.
Retro models rarely incorporate Gold paint. Instead they tend to use a very basic NMM effect. I imitate this by painting a layer of Averland sunset and then glazing this with (whatever the current vermin brown equivalent is -- skrag brown maybe?) and then highlighting the very edges with white.
Hazard stripes on weapons (CC usually, bolters is mostly an Iron warriors thing) Checkerboard patters, army badges on Greaves.

Well that's all I can think of at the moment. If you like, I could probably throw a tutorial up for how I do my ultras.
Hope that helps. cheers.


bc's Retro Ultramarines -- Blood Angels and a bigger, better blog. @ 2015/12/01 06:14:50


Post by: Stormwall


Doing up some Sons of Orar, that is why I am asking.

A tutorial would be nice and probably help others greatly.


bc's Retro Ultramarines -- Blood Angels and a bigger, better blog. @ 2015/12/01 06:33:05


Post by: brushcommando


Sons of Orar you say? Yeah, I would say your best bet is hazard stripes on the Chainswords and Powerfists, the fake-gold effect for the chest eagle and maybe some red and white checks on the pauldrons or kneepads. If you want to go all in, then green bases and maybe do something crazy colorful like bright yellow for the bolter casings.


bc's Retro Ultramarines -- Blood Angels and a bigger, better blog. @ 2015/12/01 06:38:11


Post by: evildrcheese


The Ultras Combat Squad is looking wicked.

The group shot also speaks volumes about your skills.

Edc


bc's Retro Ultramarines -- Blood Angels and a bigger, better blog. @ 2015/12/01 06:44:21


Post by: Bash the Bosh


Great work! The whole project has a real 90's vibe to it. I enjoy the checkerboards on the Rhino. A great way to add detail.


bc's Retro Ultramarines -- Blood Angels and a bigger, better blog. @ 2015/12/01 09:09:29


Post by: Cosmic


Really, really nice painting! This is how Space Marines look best - not because the grittier modern style is inferior - just that the clean, crisp & bright retro colours really pop on the table. Keep up the awesome work!


bc's Retro Ultramarines -- Blood Angels and a bigger, better blog. @ 2015/12/01 10:11:24


Post by: lipsdapips


Brushcommando my man! Sorry for not stumbling through your blog earlier. Just read through from start to finish and what a blast i've had! Always loved the retro Ultra style, but I was always too daunted to face painting the yellows, especially on something as intricate as a chest eagle :0

The Salamander looks nice - really captured a simple yet effective scheme on them, plus the freehand spices it up a great amount. I'd love to see some freehand flames on things like the legs and entirety of the shoulder pouldrons, but don't let me encroach on your vision, whatever you choose to do, 5 BaC sets finished up would look astonishing regardless

You're doing great justice to the boys of Macragge, and some personal highlights of mine are your rhino checkered freehands - I was certain they were transfers at first glance, truly incredible. Also the PP/PF BaC sergeant, the colour scheme looks sublime on him and he really shines. And of course the army shot and shout out made my day

Consider me subbed for the future, love your style, and love seeing a fellow ultramarines man!

LDP


bc's Retro Ultramarines -- Blood Angels and a bigger, better blog. @ 2015/12/01 10:14:59


Post by: Paradigm


Fantastic work as ever!


bc's Retro Ultramarines -- Blood Angels and a bigger, better blog. @ 2015/12/02 02:30:50


Post by: brushcommando


Wow guys. Thanks for all the responses!
@LDP I'm glad you're liking the blog. I'm pretty sure it was reading your Ultramarines blog that made me want to restart this one after initially abandoning it.

So I've decided to throw my hat in the ring for the dakka monthly painting challenge. I was torn between contemptors or the Salamander combat squad so in my typical fashion I've decided to do something else entirely.
Blood Angels Devastators.



To be fair, I've wanted to start these guys for a while, and the challenge is as good an excuse as any.
cheers


bc's Retro Ultramarines -- Blood Angels and a bigger, better blog. @ 2015/12/02 09:49:28


Post by: Mymearan


Really love that classic UM look, bright blues and yellow with red weapons, nostalgia overload!


bc's Retro Ultramarines -- Blood Angels and a bigger, better blog. @ 2015/12/02 11:15:47


Post by: brushcommando


@mymearan: Thanks!

I didn't have much to do last night, so I put on some netflix and started slapping paint on the Blood Angels. Got most of the big stuff knocked out. Mostly just need to decide what to do with the ML... it;s hard to get a good shot of what they used to look like, so I'm going to be doing some guesswork and improvisation. I'm thinking Metal with black trim and maybe black and white checks.



Might get another WIP shot up today, but that's all for now.
cheers


bc's Retro Ultramarines -- Blood Angels and a bigger, better blog. @ 2015/12/02 18:53:19


Post by: Bash the Bosh


Great choice matey! I still remember owning those MLs in 2nd edition. Shoulder mounted death dealers!


bc's Retro Ultramarines -- Blood Angels and a bigger, better blog. @ 2015/12/02 19:49:17


Post by: brushcommando


Hurray! The Color Sergeant is Back! Also -- thanks Bash.


bc's Retro Ultramarines -- Blood Angels and a bigger, better blog. @ 2015/12/02 22:37:51


Post by: Bash the Bosh


Yes dude. I felt bad about changing my avatar, as it is the best one I've had. And no worries dude. You keep doing what you're doing, and I'll provide the 'wow','awesome' and 'good job' comments!


bc's Retro Ultramarines -- Blood Angels and a bigger, better blog. @ 2015/12/02 23:36:39


Post by: brushcommando


So I was able to get more painting done today. Got all the Devestators up to flat base colors and then finished the sgt. Here he is:







I finally think I've decided how to go about painting the missile launcher troops so they shouldn't be too far behind. Cheers


bc's Retro Ultramarines -- Blood Angels and a bigger, better blog. @ 2015/12/03 00:37:24


Post by: Stormwall


Looking good!

Quick question, is warboss green the same as the original goblin green? I had someone offer me original pots but, someone else said that I should use a new paint.



bc's Retro Ultramarines -- Blood Angels and a bigger, better blog. @ 2015/12/03 00:42:53


Post by: brushcommando


@stormwall. Honestly, I think they are very slightly different. I feel like Goblin green was a tad more yellow, and warboss green has a tad more blue. Not entirely certain though -- my original goblin green paint dried out and I was using the warboss green. Vallejo and Army painter also have goblin green-surrogates so you have a couple options. I've also seen bases from that era done in a slightly less bright green (camo green/ loren forest maybe?)


bc's Retro Ultramarines -- Blood Angels and a bigger, better blog. @ 2015/12/03 01:06:19


Post by: Stormwall


Gotcha. Thank you.


bc's Retro Ultramarines -- Blood Angels and a bigger, better blog. @ 2015/12/03 12:34:11


Post by: lipsdapips


Nice! He looks lovely. The paintjob really fits the retro style of the mini, as you always manage to do. You're making great progress on this squad, will have finished your comp entry in no time!
...Whereas mine hasn't even shipped yet


bc's Retro Ultramarines -- Blood Angels and a bigger, better blog. @ 2015/12/03 14:20:01


Post by: brushcommando


@stormwall: hey let me know when you've knocked out your first retro model. I can't wait to see what you come up with.
@LDP. Thanks, man. I've been really enjoying painting this squad, lol. I'm halfway done and I'm not even listed amongst the entrants yet. I'll have pics of the finished ml guys up later today.


bc's Retro Ultramarines -- Blood Angels and a bigger, better blog. @ 2015/12/04 03:26:24


Post by: brushcommando


As promised, here are the first two milssile launcher dudes. I'm going to try to do something different with each ML so the squad doesn't have redundant looking models, which is more than I can say for the poor "ablative wound" marines needed to flesh out the squad.





And now they're photobombing the sarge...



I hope to have the squad finished by this Sunday so I can move on to something else. cheers.


bc's Retro Ultramarines -- Blood Angels and a bigger, better blog. @ 2015/12/04 09:48:59


Post by: evildrcheese


Looking awesome. Always good to see some retro style BA!

EDC


bc's Retro Ultramarines -- Blood Angels and a bigger, better blog. @ 2015/12/07 03:35:26


Post by: brushcommando


Okay, so those last two Blood Angels Devastators are coming along, but I hit a little bit of painter's block. (That's a thing, I swear.) So I decided to start work on this guy instead.







I was reading codex: Armageddon, and realized that I am painting all of the chapters that took part in the 2nd war for Armageddon (and some which fought in the third...) and I was sitting on a couple IG tanks so I decided to give it a go with the classic steel legion scheme. I was also able to liquidate some of my Dust Tactics miniatures to raise enough funds to buy matching infantry, so they will likely make an appearance here in the future.


bc's Retro Ultramarines -- Blood Angels and a bigger, better blog. @ 2015/12/07 03:42:07


Post by: Spacewolverine


Scheme came out quite nice. I never could get the Steel Legion camo stripes just right. Red and white stripes really pop and add that extra touch.


bc's Retro Ultramarines -- Blood Angels and a bigger, better blog. @ 2015/12/07 08:29:42


Post by: evildrcheese


Very nice. Agree with the above post, the stripes really make it pop.

EDC


bc's Retro Ultramarines -- Blood Angels and a bigger, better blog. @ 2015/12/07 09:00:58


Post by: Paradigm


Excellent stuff! Will the Steel Legion be getting a similarly retro scheme?


bc's Retro Ultramarines -- Blood Angels and a bigger, better blog. @ 2015/12/07 10:32:58


Post by: brushcommando


Thanks guys.

@Paradigm: I don't know if it counts as retro, but I'm going for the look they have in codex: Armageddon. It was a bright mustard yellow tunic with paints and helmet in a sort of green-grey. At any rate, it's the earliest scheme I've ever seen them painted in, so I guess it's their "retro" even if GW has never felt the need to update it.


bc's Retro Ultramarines -- Blood Angels and a bigger, better blog. @ 2015/12/07 11:16:45


Post by: lipsdapips


Oooh nice! That's a solid paintjob. Looks like the old editions of the IG codex paintjobs - so achieving your goals I suppose


bc's Retro Ultramarines -- Blood Angels and a bigger, better blog. @ 2015/12/14 02:59:39


Post by: brushcommando


Sooooo.... my painting pace has slowed considerably this week. Been on an assembly binge instead. I do have my Painting Comp entry almost done...



I've also been working on some new stuff:







I would love some critical feedback on these. For the genestealer I've used a drybrushing technique and I'm not certain it looks retro enough (although it is certainly unfinished) for the black templar, I've decided "less is more" with the highlighting and relied solely on the color of the base to tie it to the retro theme. Again, would love to hear what you all think.
cheers.


bc's Retro Ultramarines -- Blood Angels and a bigger, better blog. @ 2015/12/14 03:24:10


Post by: lipsdapips


In terms of scheme the genestealer certainly looks retro - perhaps a layering paintjob could achieve a cleaner result? Will have to see the finished product I suppose - its always a surprise how different stuff looks when its done opposed to WIP - and I usually find the difference is positive


bc's Retro Ultramarines -- Blood Angels and a bigger, better blog. @ 2016/05/02 03:48:40


Post by: brushcommando


Okay, so I've been gone for a few months and painting progress has been slow, but I recently started back up with some work on both my blood angels and ultramarines.
For starters, I've managed to acquire one of the old metal/plastic hybrid tactical squads to go along with one of the 2nd ed plastic squads from the starter kit.




I've also started a little work on a modern tactical squad I'm painting up for the 3rd Company.



Well that's it. Just wanted to post a quick update as to what I've been up to.
Cheers.



bc's Retro Ultramarines -- Blood Angels and a bigger, better blog. @ 2016/05/03 12:05:42


Post by: Paradigm


Good stuff, that Tactical Squad looks great!


bc's Retro Ultramarines -- Blood Angels and a bigger, better blog. @ 2016/05/07 21:58:32


Post by: brushcommando


Okay, so for a while I've been meaning to turn this blog into something a little different than what it is -- that is to give it a more concrete direction and purpose while still allowing my ADD to run amok. To that end I wanted to set some goals and let you all in on what I'm planning to do over the course of a year.
First of all, I want to get at least two playable armies painted up to 5th edition standards. (I haven't really taken to any of the rulesets afterwards) My little brother has been looking to jump into 40k with space marines, and I fancy coming up with badab-style loyalist on loyalist fight. Possibly between blood angels and ultramarines, or possibly the dark angels finally getting outed. I dunno. I just want to write some of my own fluff, for fun. As such a conflict would invariably swallow other chapters, I might have the opportunity to do some one off squads for other chapters.

For the time being, my two main projects remain the retro-themed blood angels and ultramarines. I've decided that all the honest-to-goodness retro models will go to the blood angels, as I think they wear it better. The retro-scheme for the ultras carries over better on the current models than the blood angels does, so they will mostly comprise of current (3rd ed and onwards) models. The salamanders will also feature promininently, and I have got those steel legion guys around somewhere too.

Well that's pretty much it. I did want to show off the last few days' progress on my 2nd ed blood angels tac-squad so here goes:



Cheers.