With rumors about warhammer 40k 7th edition already floating out there. I just got to wondering: who would you like to see in the new starter set? While one of the armies is usually some flavor of space marines, for the sake of this discussion lets assume that isn't the case.

Personally: I think it would be cool to see a Tau Vs Tyrnids.

Imperial Guard and Tyranids loads of models

I think it'll be Space Marines vs Tau or Eldar. Probably Iron Hands (if they go specific... otherwise vanilla) vs Tau.
Personally I'd like it to be Tau vs Space Marines - purely because so many new players play marines and they're really the people who need the starter sets. Also vanilla, because tailoring like they did for the last one sucks for all the other Marine players. Either that or Eldar vs Tyranids (this depends on how the new dex goes next month...)

EDIT: (yeah I play Tau)

I'm not a fan ofthe chapter specific models when they do marines. Not a big deal to me as I just paint them in my colors and mix and match anyway, but I can see that turning a lot of players off from buying the starter set. For example, a blood angels player might not be so keen to buy the current ones as the models are kind useless to them without a lot of work removing the icongraphy. When they put in the "generic' marines This does not mean dont put on details of course, you find that they sell better and help the hobby as a whole.

Moar bits and wargear options! I despise starter sets just because of lack of those features.

Are there really rumors about 7th edition already? o_O

Anyway, I'd be more interested in actually discounted army-specific bundles than the thematic kits(Dark Vengeance, Assault on Black Reach).

 Vaerros wrote:
Are there really rumors about 7th edition already? o_O

Anyway, I'd be more interested in actually discounted army-specific bundles than the thematic kits(Dark Vengeance, Assault on Black Reach).

That's called a battleforce...

Stop making specific models in the sets and instead add customization. And lots of loadouts. Dark Vengeance looks great, but I decided to pass on it to start out in the W40K hobby for the loadouts being crap and it being a pain to customize anything without extensive use of a knife and greenstuff.

orks and guard

 Wyzilla wrote:
Stop making specific models in the sets and instead add customization. And lots of loadouts. Dark Vengeance looks great, but I decided to pass on it to start out in the W40K hobby for the loadouts being crap and it being a pain to customize anything without extensive use of a knife and greenstuff.

They are meant for begginers who dont know even how to play yet, and you want them to freaking customize?!

God people, we need SOME sort of viable entry point for this hobby.



Anyway, next starter?
Starters are usually "Marine X VS xeno/chaos menace"
For marines I'd like to nominate blood angels or space wovles.
For the menace, how about necrons?

Grey Knights or Sisters against a current 5th ED codex. Necrons would be interesting.

Why not Sisters of Battle in plastic and Orks?

I would love to see Sisters vs. Chaos

But Iron Hands vs Tau would be cool.

A sisters -v- ANYTHING would sell of the shelves so fast that...... Well, i cant even come up with a comparison.

 wuestenfux wrote:
Why not Sisters of Battle in plastic and Orks?

I like this suggestion.

But I do agree, that you don't want to give brand new players too many customization options, because ultimately they are going to do what looks cool in the first place. or they'll end up with 6 guys with melta guns in a squad and no realize thats not allowed.

 Brother Payne wrote:

 Vaerros wrote:
Are there really rumors about 7th edition already? o_O

Anyway, I'd be more interested in actually discounted army-specific bundles than the thematic kits(Dark Vengeance, Assault on Black Reach).

That's called a battleforce...

What I meant then is a battleforce that exists for my army :p

I'm selfish. If one of the armies is one I collect, I'm happy.

Though we all know it'll never happen, I'd also like to see a huge lack of space marines, or anything in power armour for that matter. 40k has far too many space marines.

As someone who got into 40k via Dark Vengeance I'd have to say that it doesn't matter what armies come in the starter set, the lists have to be balanced!

What was going on with the DV set anyways? Dark Angels weighing in at like 800 points, while the poor Crimson Laughter (not a typo!) were something like 600? That really turned me off of that set. Even going back to it after learning how to play, it was still so unbalanced!

If the idea with the starter set is to get people to buy more Space Marines then I guess that's fine.

But they should do a combo that they haven't done yet, we know it will be Space Marines though, Blood Angels maybe? By all logic it will be two armies that have new codices. So Space Marines, ha!

I would like to see Space Marines vs Eldar!

But really anything as long as the two armies are designed equally...

darkcloak wrote:
As someone who got into 40k via Dark Vengeance I'd have to say that it doesn't matter what armies come in the starter set, the lists have to be balanced!

What was going on with the DV set anyways? Dark Angels weighing in at like 800 points, while the poor Crimson Laughter (not a typo!) were something like 600? That really turned me off of that set. Even going back to it after learning how to play, it was still so unbalanced!

This is a really good point actually. At the very least, include some scenarios (à la Battle for Macragge) that balances out the forces.

I doubt gw would know what to put on the box if it didnt involve some baroque muscebound doofus standing on a pile of skulls shooting an automatic grenade luancher in the air, so it will be marines and _______

They will finally bow to what (most) everyone out there is experiencing while playing, and have it be Loyalist Space Marines versus Loyalist Space marines.

Lol this ^^

I can actually see a SM vs Tau going on there to be honest...

but if Tau do make it into the box, Im pretty sure we'd have the terribad units from the dex, like Stingwings in there

A limited edition guard army that looks completely different to any of the other regiments out there. Id buy that starter set. Dont really care who they are fighting.

How about concise rules?

Imperial Guard Vs. Chaos Marines.

How about Sisters vs Dark Eldar

to be honest, just as i would buy one (or more) starter sets with sisters, I would likely do the same for one with a new (or classic) guard set. A clasic one would see a boost in sales for the clasic models for whatever weapons and options werent in the starter set.

Sorry Double Post]

 BoomWolf wrote:

 Wyzilla wrote:
Stop making specific models in the sets and instead add customization. And lots of loadouts. Dark Vengeance looks great, but I decided to pass on it to start out in the W40K hobby for the loadouts being crap and it being a pain to customize anything without extensive use of a knife and greenstuff.

They are meant for begginers who dont know even how to play yet, and you want them to freaking customize?!

God people, we need SOME sort of viable entry point for this hobby.



Anyway, next starter?
Starters are usually "Marine X VS xeno/chaos menace"
For marines I'd like to nominate blood angels or space wovles.
For the menace, how about necrons?

I'm starting the hobby but I actually know what I want and how to build it. Beginners aren't mentally slowed FYI as some people seem to believe. The reason why I passed on getting Dark Vengeance was DUE to it being so basic with the stupid snap fit system that prevents me from making something that will stand out without buying stock in greenstuff. Instead I'm buying the fairly nice deal of the CSM bsi battleforce (one ten man squad of CSM's, Rhino, bikers, and possessed) and a squad of Raptors so I can make counts-as-shrike if I ever decide to play them competitively under Raven Guard rules.
(Not to mention DV really isn't all that 'basic' anyway with how advanced the CSM Chosen models are that makes it an oddly poor thing to chose to start out with unless you're a rad painter but want to get stiff models that can't be specially posed or modded without greenstuff. It's really quite odd compared to older sets.)

I just hope the next starter will have unique models that are either standard glue/melt together or snap fit but with multiple different sets of limbs with carried weapons.

I would have like to have seen some Chaos Terminators instead of the Chosen or just Chaos Space Marines.

 Anpu42 wrote:
I would have like to have seen some Chaos Terminators instead of the Chosen or just Chaos Space Marines.

Yeah, that would be nice. I thought about getting DV simply for the steal of getting a bunch of marines, chosen, and Terminators on top of it all, if I didn't have to worry about breaking my first models trying to shave off the insignia of the Dark Angels because I don't intend on collecting them at all in the near future.

back to the $50 price range. thats what i want to see any way.

I'd rather just see a 50 dollar rulebook that is clear and concise than a new starter. Lately starters suck in that they are the only way to get certain models from the codex for the armies contained. Deth Koptas, Chosen, Hellbrute, etc. To blatant of a way to try to force people with that army to buy the starter if they don't want to convert those models. You can always shop for the bitz, but it's stupid for GW not to produce them in separate unit boxes, especially on starters that are out of print, like Black Reach.

Some of us would like those units without getting "more" Space Marines.

I expect it'll be SM vs Necrons. The dream for me however would be Nids and SoB. That would sell so well, an everyone would sell off the bid part for really cheap!

Sisters vs Grey knights.

Adeptus Arbites Vs Genestealer Cult

or

Adeptus Mechanicus Vs Demiurg

or

Sisters of Battle Vs The Lost and The Damned


I guess I'll just keep on dreaming.

I want to see something that represents the way the game has been heading.

So, a riptide, a wraithknight, two inquisitors and 22 tac marines. (Plus 2 power swords and crested helmets to make 'captains'.) Mix and match at will! Lol...

In all seriousness, though, bugs vs. Guard would be so cool.

It will be 2 relatively new armies. My guess is nids and guard. What would be utterly amazing is if they stuck something of armor in the box for the guard.

Well, my wishlist 40k starter box has always been "Massacre at Sanctuary 101".

It's the perfect set up for a starter box. Horders of basic bad guys, just like dark vengeance (necron warriors galore, supported with a single overlord and some scarabs and destroyers), with a small number of elite heroes (battle sisters, seraphim and a canoness). You wouldn't even need the Immolator or the Rhino from the original box, although one of the two would be awesome.

It also represents all the basic types (infantry, jump infantry, jetbike, beast, maybe vehicle), could easily be altered slightly to include monstrous creatures (tomb spyder) or walkers (penitent engine), making it good for teaching games. It includes mixed armour saves (3+, 4+ and 5+), different strength/ap weapons (bolters/gauss flayers, staff of light, meltaguns, gauss cannons), it includes single and multi-wound models... a ready made scenario that can easily be altered into a short campaign (first encounter, running battle, shrine defence). It includes template and potentially blast weapons (flamers, tomb spyder)...

It's the perfect set up for a starter box. You literally couldn't ask for anything more to be included for teaching people the game and introducing the lore (Sisters epitomise the Imperium's do-what-we-must-to-save-what-we-can attitude even better than the glory boy space marines, while Necrons are the face of the Implacable Threat).

So why the heck has this never been a thing?!

Grey Knights vs. Imperial/Traitor Guard. *nod*

 BoomWolf wrote:

God people, we need SOME sort of viable entry point for this hobby.

You know what that is? Lower pricing to get more people interested rather than shocked by it.
But when it's gonna happen? NO EARLIER THAN NEVER!

2 starters, with one normal size set containing space wolves and dark elder and a larger [about £160] with IG against Tau.

thre is no 7th ed coming this soon.

if anything its a repackaging / limited edition that will include the ain rulebook and all the supplements, all in one, with special cover, inlays, inserts, etc. itll also cost the total of all books plus 15% just because its gw.

but it wont be 7th.... so this topic is moot.

 DarthSpader wrote:
thre is no 7th ed coming this soon.

if anything its a repackaging / limited edition that will include the ain rulebook and all the supplements, all in one, with special cover, inlays, inserts, etc. itll also cost the total of all books plus 15% just because its gw.

but it wont be 7th.... so this topic is moot.

Are you sure despite the rumors?

Darth Spader: Thats not the point. The point is that the rumors are out there, and this thread is for people to wishlist about what would be in a new starter set.

Furyou Miko: I LOVE The idea! Exalted.

Sing your life: I like this idea Too. Maybe make the larger one the limited edition version or something?

I don't care what figures are in it, just clear concise rules, with little in the way of ambiguity and an errata/faq sheet for all the printed codex speacial rules wargear would be sufficient.

While I'm at it, I'd also like an end to poverty and war......

Cheers

Andrew

Flyers vs a superheavy

Crimson Fists vs Orks.
Let's have the battle of the farm in box form.


Let's face it, it'll be SM vs something.

Chaos Daemons vs Chaos Space Marines.


Because they are the two armies I play and I like cheap models.


In reality, 'Nids vs Orks would be a blast.

thre is no 7th ed coming this soon.

if anything its a repackaging / limited edition that will include the ain rulebook and all the supplements, all in one, with special cover, inlays, inserts, etc. itll also cost the total of all books plus 15% just because its gw.

but it wont be 7th.... so this topic is moot.

That's all it's really going to be. In true and wonderful GW fashion, you won't be able to get the updated rulebook without padding their pockets by buying the Superheavy and Fortification supplements as well.

Sisters of Battle and Dark Eldar. Aesthetics vs Sybarites.

Would also give them a chance to update both very old codices at the same time.

 EVIL INC wrote:
A sisters -v- ANYTHING would sell of the shelves so fast that...... Well, i cant even come up with a comparison.

They

Don't let forum love of sisters become a mistake of society yearning for sisters as an army.

Personally, I love the Guard vs Tyranids suggestion, as that would appeal to other sci-fi folks. However, I think Marines vs Tau or Marines vs Tyranids would also do well.

Marines sell, and they sell well. Regardless of fluff Marines are the most popular army, which is fine. Look at most stories, games, movies, etc. The special snowflake is the norm and not the other way around. Terry Pratchet has a great bit about this with the million to one odds rule. Where in one scene they actually try to make the shot more difficult so that the odds will get closer to a million to one so that they know they will be successful.

if guard vs tyranids makes an appearance it should definitely come with good quality terrain and missions that mimic scenes from 'starship troopers'

i've loved the miniatures from the last two starter boxes so deep down i'd be happy with just an updated rulebook.

What would be a great reversal would be to give the IOM the horde for once, in IG, while the enemy get a small, elite army. Chaos Space Marines. I'd love to see a setup something like this:

IG:
Commissar
1 Platoon Command Squad
2 Platoon Infantry Squad.
1 Veteran Squad
1 armoured Sentinel

Chaos
Demon Prince
10 Chaos Space Marines
5 Chaos Terminators
Possibly something else.

I doubt it's balanced, but it does give you 2 very different armies and covers most if not all unit types and rules. Of course, we're only going to get SM vs something else.

Nothing because I'm calling bull on this rumor.

All jokes aside, you can't consider anything for the Imperial side other than Space Marines. Period.

I would like to see marines with some kind of centurion suit or a new larger never seen before vehicle/walker.

The opposing force could be chaos with new types of daemonic vehicles.

D weapons should be mandatory.

 Maniac_nmt wrote:

Don't let forum love of sisters become a mistake of society yearning for sisters as an army.

that goes beyond forums, that goes out into the shops and the offline gaming community. heck, it goes outside the gaming community and into the pure painting hobby.i bought a seraphim for my ex-wife and painted it up for her as a gift. had there been a afordable unit, i would dont that instead.

MANY gamers dont want an army of them but would love to have a unit or two to use as allies.
MANY men would buy them as ways to entice their better haves into the hobby.
MANY would buy multiple sets to build an army from scratch.
MANY would buy it to stockpile for resale or "just because".

I know i would buy a few sets of them just for coolness value to use as allies.
You can bet that the other army would likely be dirt cheap online. lol

I would also love to see a Battle for Big Toof River starter set. Or the smaller one for the farm. Battle for orks drift.

I hope they don't do sisters. I can see it putting off new people. Like those fantasy game adds with boob ladies on it haha. Plus only a few people would buy it in my opinion but would probably buy heaps of it.

Squats vs Chaos Squats

 kinratha wrote:
Sisters vs Grey knights.

special limited edition comes with a model of chaplain matt ward

A good idea & marketing strategy would be to give 2 significant discount vouchers for any 2 Battleforces of the players choice.
It would then be a must have & very useful purchase for everyone.

 Tigramans wrote:

 BoomWolf wrote:

God people, we need SOME sort of viable entry point for this hobby.

You know what that is? Lower pricing to get more people interested rather than shocked by it.
But when it's gonna happen? NO EARLIER THAN NEVER!

To honestly be fair, the hundred dollar starter sets aren't that bad when videogames upon release are sixty bucks. What hurts is all the basic stuff to build an army, like CSM or guardsmen squads, cost so much. You only need to buy a starter set once, so it's OK if it's a hundred bucks for everything you need to start out the game right now. But with nearly every single large squad of infantry costing just under half the starter? Utterly ridiculous.

Well one side (imerpium) will always be some form of SM. Probably vanilla. In all honesty, I don't care about the army. CSM? Cool I will add that. IG? Nice add it. CD? Add that to my army. SM, inquisition, BA... was building them. Heck even the ones I don't care for I can give to friends.

What I care about is what some others have mentioned. Bloody balanced armies! I had played the game little (had some marines and orks and some IG) and I only truly got into this being a big hobby for me at the beginning of 6th addition. In my group, nobody was planning on chaos and, whilst I was building DA, my friend revealed he wanted to play them. I gave him my DA and went for chaos eventually falling for the taint of chaos and genuinely liking chaos. Except, there was a problem. The shop owner let us play all the content. He saw me segregated as I was mowed down and said hey you just didn't use cover properly. Little did we really realize we were playing about 800-900 points of DA against about 600 points of poorly balanced and equipt CSM....

I want balance! For a beginner to deploy two armies that at equal skill levels have about a 50% chance of victory. Not perfectly. Heck, 60% and 40% is fine. Heck, I could bare with the imbalance of one army being better planned but when DA are built with a 200-300 point advantage AND have a properly equipment army specifically to kill CSM and you look at the CSM force that has less forces, has 20 cultists that have no real reason to be there bolter guns built to tear them apart, 6 chosen with 2 bolt gunners all the while the rest are a mess with lightning claws, one with power fist, one with a power maul (why the maul? It is ap4 against an army of all sv3+ or better on the guy that is forced to declare challenges), one with a power fist, and one with an axe. What are they built to kill!? Then they have a helbrute with a melta that really doesn't work since no enemy vehicle and is fighting an army rife with plasma, and then you have a chaos lord that either had a 4+ or 5+ invuln to start with (I hope it was the 4+ but I think it was a 5+ which I believe meant the loyalist had the advantage of surviving), a plasma pistol, and a power sword... what was it built to kill? Finally, why was the limited edition another DA like it wasn't already insult? You couldn't even deploy him naturally because it already started with 2 loyalist named characters.

Clearly you're forgetting 3rd. 20 dark eldar warriors (pre pfp, poisoned weapons etc) vs a tactical squad and a landspeeder. That was the box i got as a kid and you couldnt even play a game with it. I found it amusing that it proudly proclaimed "everything you need to get playing" and yet the rulebook said "the most basic of forces needs two troops and an hq". Not to mention that dark eldar were really terrible. I also got the aobr and da models only via ebay and i think of all three starter sets the aobr one was best. A great foundation for both forces.

I've talked to a few higher ups in Gw and they pretty much assured me every starter set one side will always be space marines.

Space Marines vs Tau, don't think they've had a go yet.

 Banzaimash wrote:
Space Marines vs Tau, don't think they've had a go yet.

And the tau will undoubtedly have some new form of riptide.

What I'd like to see? IG vs Tyranids. It'd be cool to see a starter without SM and it'd probably have a ton of models, much like the cultists in the current one.

Realistically? I think it'd be both fun and realistic to guess SM vs Tyranids. SM will always be in the starter, and aren't Tyranids set to get new units and a shiny new codex? A Tyranid starter would be a good thing to release along side them.

Squats vs. Nids

Actually, it would just be some fat bugs

rumors say it will be BA v. Necrons

Plastic Steel Legion vs. Orks.

Tau vs. Tyranids, maybe to expand a tad on Hive Fleet Gorgon. No Imperials make this highly unlikely though.

I guess it will really end up being Space Marines vs. something, maybe Necrons would be a cool scenario/box set, lots of robots and machines squaring off with jacked men in armor make little boy want it and mommy and daddy pay for it, oooh yeah. I would buy a couple myself if it ended up being SM v Necrons.

If it was sisters vs dark eldar I would probably buy 3 or more of them.

Eldar vs Dark Eldar would be cool, I want to see more conflicts between these two. Ever since 6th hit they've been irritatingly buddy-buddy

EyeOfDC wrote:

 Banzaimash wrote:
Space Marines vs Tau, don't think they've had a go yet.

And the tau will undoubtedly have some new form of riptide.

Don't even say like this!

lol

Starter set should come with a note that says "Riptides are now Jumpjet Walkers."

Necrons and SoB, Sanctuary 101.

Or necrons and orks. Then I get models for both of my current armies

Chaos squats vs fishmen.

 Furyou Miko wrote:
Well, my wishlist 40k starter box has always been "Massacre at Sanctuary 101".

It's the perfect set up for a starter box. Horders of basic bad guys, just like dark vengeance (necron warriors galore, supported with a single overlord and some scarabs and destroyers), with a small number of elite heroes (battle sisters, seraphim and a canoness). You wouldn't even need the Immolator or the Rhino from the original box, although one of the two would be awesome.

It also represents all the basic types (infantry, jump infantry, jetbike, beast, maybe vehicle), could easily be altered slightly to include monstrous creatures (tomb spyder) or walkers (penitent engine), making it good for teaching games. It includes mixed armour saves (3+, 4+ and 5+), different strength/ap weapons (bolters/gauss flayers, staff of light, meltaguns, gauss cannons), it includes single and multi-wound models... a ready made scenario that can easily be altered into a short campaign (first encounter, running battle, shrine defence). It includes template and potentially blast weapons (flamers, tomb spyder)...

It's the perfect set up for a starter box. You literally couldn't ask for anything more to be included for teaching people the game and introducing the lore (Sisters epitomise the Imperium's do-what-we-must-to-save-what-we-can attitude even better than the glory boy space marines, while Necrons are the face of the Implacable Threat).

So why the heck has this never been a thing?!

I was going to say SoB vs Chaos... but you pitched that so well that I think I'll change my vote to this! I'd certainly buy it.

 AegisGrimm wrote:
All jokes aside, you can't consider anything for the Imperial side other than Space Marines. Period.

It's what you'd like there to be, not what there probably will be.

Space Marines and Chaos Space Marines.

Barring that, ANYTHING but Tyranids and Eldar, since those are the only two armies I neither play nor want to play.

 Furyou Miko wrote:
Well, my wishlist 40k starter box has always been "Massacre at Sanctuary 101".

It's the perfect set up for a starter box. Horders of basic bad guys, just like dark vengeance (necron warriors galore, supported with a single overlord and some scarabs and destroyers), with a small number of elite heroes (battle sisters, seraphim and a canoness). You wouldn't even need the Immolator or the Rhino from the original box, although one of the two would be awesome.

It also represents all the basic types (infantry, jump infantry, jetbike, beast, maybe vehicle), could easily be altered slightly to include monstrous creatures (tomb spyder) or walkers (penitent engine), making it good for teaching games. It includes mixed armour saves (3+, 4+ and 5+), different strength/ap weapons (bolters/gauss flayers, staff of light, meltaguns, gauss cannons), it includes single and multi-wound models... a ready made scenario that can easily be altered into a short campaign (first encounter, running battle, shrine defence). It includes template and potentially blast weapons (flamers, tomb spyder)...

It's the perfect set up for a starter box. You literally couldn't ask for anything more to be included for teaching people the game and introducing the lore (Sisters epitomise the Imperium's do-what-we-must-to-save-what-we-can attitude even better than the glory boy space marines, while Necrons are the face of the Implacable Threat).

So why the heck has this never been a thing?!

I was thinking the same thing. I suggested this in my post as well.
If that became a thing, it would be my first 40k starter set. I've been leaning towards the Sisters as my third 40k army (and my first IoM faction).

Now, I suspect the reason why it hasn't been done yet is for two reasons - the first is because having SM as the imperial faction in the starter set is a bit of a tradition. The second might have something to do with the Sisters being metal.
But who knows, perhaps GW will put sisters in the starter, just to show off the new plastic sculpts and try to get some faith (heh) from the SoB player base back.
They probably won't though.

Adepta Sororitas vs Tryanids

lots of new plastics plus can do the whole The Matrydom of Praxedes with special character

Space marines vs orks.wait a minute..But seriously all they have to do it throw some black reach style sluggas and a few other things in.The sluggas will save them loads of money.Marines:Its always space marines.Simple as that.I suspect blood angels here.After all they did just do dark angels,which implies that they are going to do all the spess marine codexes instead of just smurfs.Weren't the blud angels the 2nd edition spess muhrines?Then it might be spess wolves...

Eldar vs. Necrons, but I don't expect that.

Maybe Space Wolves vs. something, if must be select some imperial faction.

 EVIL INC wrote:
A sisters -v- ANYTHING would sell of the shelves so fast that...... Well, i cant even come up with a comparison.

Like the Enteprise flying away from a supernova's shockwave?

 EVIL INC wrote:

 Maniac_nmt wrote:

Don't let forum love of sisters become a mistake of society yearning for sisters as an army.

that goes beyond forums, that goes out into the shops and the offline gaming community. heck, it goes outside the gaming community and into the pure painting hobby.i bought a seraphim for my ex-wife and painted it up for her as a gift. had there been a afordable unit, i would dont that instead.

MANY gamers dont want an army of them but would love to have a unit or two to use as allies.
MANY men would buy them as ways to entice their better haves into the hobby.
MANY would buy multiple sets to build an army from scratch.
MANY would buy it to stockpile for resale or "just because".

I know i would buy a few sets of them just for coolness value to use as allies.
You can bet that the other army would likely be dirt cheap online. lol

Other than online forums I've only ever seen one sister army across multiple stores in many cities, and no one other than that one army who wanted sisters. I have no issue with sisters, but it speaks for themselves that they don't get a lot of love. They aren't that popular, certainly no where near popular enough to carry a starter.

 Maniac_nmt wrote:

 EVIL INC wrote:

 Maniac_nmt wrote:

Don't let forum love of sisters become a mistake of society yearning for sisters as an army.

that goes beyond forums, that goes out into the shops and the offline gaming community. heck, it goes outside the gaming community and into the pure painting hobby.i bought a seraphim for my ex-wife and painted it up for her as a gift. had there been a afordable unit, i would dont that instead.

MANY gamers dont want an army of them but would love to have a unit or two to use as allies.
MANY men would buy them as ways to entice their better haves into the hobby.
MANY would buy multiple sets to build an army from scratch.
MANY would buy it to stockpile for resale or "just because".

I know i would buy a few sets of them just for coolness value to use as allies.
You can bet that the other army would likely be dirt cheap online. lol

Other than online forums I've only ever seen one sister army across multiple stores in many cities, and no one other than that one army who wanted sisters. I have no issue with sisters, but it speaks for themselves that they don't get a lot of love. They aren't that popular, certainly no where near popular enough to carry a starter.

Yes, because as we all know, unpopular armies can have their books be a best seller

Definitely Tau vs Tyranids

The whole image of those two races fighting is just epic. It would play out much like if Tyranids attacked us today (in terms of strategy, the outcome would be us all dying )

I hate to say it to the people who like sisters of battle but I doubt GW will put them in a starter anytime soon. Not that people don't like them but that the actual model range is lacking (and a print copy of the codex).
Since the last 2 contained: Orks, Chaos Space Marines, Space Marines and Dark Angels they probably won't be in it.

I could see them putting in Tau/Eldar/Necrons/Tyranids/Blood Angels/Imperial Guard
Just because the ranges are pretty good model wise and might bring about new codex for blood angels and necrons. Didn't they do that with Dark Angels?
It would also let them expand their model range maybe.

Honestly though I don't care what is in the new starter. Plus this is like guessing what the weather is going to be 100 days from now haha

Marines are going to be in it.Tau vs crons?Problem is that a sci fi without humies just doesn't look right.And its tradition to have marines krump da not marines.SOB:GW wants to attract 12 year old boys to this game?90% of those will probably see the canoness about to hit the warboss and say:For girls.Most kids don't want to play with a girl army.

I have no preference other than hoping if they have a Space Marine force it's generic Marines. The 6th ed box was rubbish to me as the models had all the Dark Angels iconography on them.

 chiefbigredman wrote:
I hate to say it to the people who like sisters of battle but I doubt GW will put them in a starter anytime soon. Not that people don't like them but that the actual model range is lacking (and a print copy of the codex).

Da krimson barun wrote:
Marines are going to be in it.Tau vs crons?Problem is that a sci fi without humies just doesn't look right.And its tradition to have marines krump da not marines.SOB:GW wants to attract 12 year old boys to this game?90% of those will probably see the canoness about to hit the warboss and say:For girls.Most kids don't want to play with a girl army.

 Troike wrote:
It's what you'd like there to be, not what there probably will be.

We know it'll be Marines vs some non-Imperial army, but it still fun to imagine what could be.

Iron Hands vs Nurgle marines

SW, Iron Hands or IG vs Orks, Eldar or Dark Eldar.

I know this would never happen but a really cool themed starter should be Sisters vs Necrons. It could the battle of Sanctuary 101.

How cool would that be?

I love the Idiea of The Farm
1 Capitan
2x Tac-Squads

VS.

Ork Nob
Crap load of Orks

A few apices of terain

here is hoping that they learn from this past mistake ando a generic or vanilla marine set instead of one with molded on iconography of a particuler chapter.

I'm hoping they do Space Wolves v. Thousand Sons with Fenris themed terrain.

LOST & THE DAMNED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I want my love back! Also... this has nothing to do with anything. But if there is going to be a new edition. i would love every unit to be viable.

 Anpu42 wrote:
I love the Idiea of The Farm
1 Capitan
2x Tac-Squads

VS.

Ork Nob
Crap load of Orks

A few apices of terain

As much retro-awesomness as that would be, I don't think it would make a good starter set. If you look at the AoBR and DV boxes they are packing a much larger variety of stuff in there these days.

2nd was SM vs. Orks
3rd was SM vs. DE
4th was SM vs. Nids
5th was SM vs. Orks
6th is DA vs. CSM

I think it's time for Necrons to be in the starter myself. Them and demons are the only evil armies not to show up in a box yet. I would prefer unflavored marine models, but I suspect there is going to be iconography on whatever marines are in the box.

what id really like to see in the box is a refund for the money i just wasted on 6th.

I expect it to be a Revenant Titan and a Warhound and cost you nearly $800 to buy. Also, there will be no other access to the rulebook for a full year except a $200 digital release that gives you 'rules' to use existing Revenants and Warhounds.

-=Cough=-

I'd love to see Imperial Guard and a Xenos just as some variety from the last four having Marines....GW seems to like the idea of changing the dynamic and wanting people to support new armies, and putting Guard/Xenos in would give new options for armies people don't already play.

In an ideal world there would be multiple types of starter sets involving multiple combinations of races vs the other rather than the just the generic marines vs. xenos/chaos set we get every new edition.

But if we were to stick with this formula I would think that having marines vs. tau would be interesting particularly if it was one involving the Damocles Gulf Crusade. Or maybe even Grey Knights vs. some Daemons?

I'd like to see BA vs Nids in a new starter. It would be a good smaller force vs blob set up, not to mention they just released that Space Hulk PC game in 2013.

....And they are both armies I'm interested in playing.

 BrotherSalem wrote:
I'd like to see BA vs Nids in a new starter. It would be a good smaller force vs blob set up, not to mention they just released that Space Hulk PC game in 2013.

....And they are both armies I'm interested in playing.

Best not to constrict the player by the starter set. Generic Marines can be painted to be anything, even Chaos.

But seriously though, they need to stop with the snap-fit crap unless they supply multiple different limbs for different poses and loadouts. It's not a good starter set if it seriously constricts the options for the buyer.

 Wyzilla wrote:

 BrotherSalem wrote:
I'd like to see BA vs Nids in a new starter. It would be a good smaller force vs blob set up, not to mention they just released that Space Hulk PC game in 2013.

....And they are both armies I'm interested in playing.

Best not to constrict the player by the starter set. Generic Marines can be painted to be anything, even Chaos.

But seriously though, they need to stop with the snap-fit crap unless they supply multiple different limbs for different poses and loadouts. It's not a good starter set if it seriously constricts the options for the buyer.

The advantage of push fit is that it lets you start playing NOW. And they are easier to assemble. Both these things make it easy to start playing, hook fresh blood, and get people started. Which is exactly what the starter set needs to do.

As an established player, I'd prefer the multipart models. But I recognize that I'm not the target market for the starter set.

I'm actually a fan of the snap fit models. If they were to put in 'normal" models, we would not get NEAR the numbers of models or variety of units.
Besides, look at them, they are a far cry from the models of yesteryear in terms of deail forthem.
They may not give a full army, but they do let players start "now' and they whet the appetite of players who want something better with more options.
Most of us buy extra sets just for the al o the models and then use them to fill in ranks anyway. Dnt tell me you have not seen marine players go out and buy tactical model sets and put each of the special weapons on guys along with the heavy weapon and combi weapon to take up 6 of the bodies and then used the remaining 4 to make a few different sarge options or save them to extra heavy weapons onto from a dev box and then use the snap fit guys as the "grunts" of the unit in order to save themselves a bunch of money.

 EVIL INC wrote:
I'm actually a fan of the snap fit models. If they were to put in 'normal" models, we would not get NEAR the numbers of models or variety of units.
Besides, look at them, they are a far cry from the models of yesteryear in terms of deail forthem.
They may not give a full army, but they do let players start "now' and they whet the appetite of players who want something better with more options.
Most of us buy extra sets just for the al o the models and then use them to fill in ranks anyway. Dnt tell me you have not seen marine players go out and buy tactical model sets and put each of the special weapons on guys along with the heavy weapon and combi weapon to take up 6 of the bodies and then used the remaining 4 to make a few different sarge options or save them to extra heavy weapons onto from a dev box and then use the snap fit guys as the "grunts" of the unit in order to save themselves a bunch of money.

To be fair, from a devil's advocate POV, you also get stuck with overpriced plasma pistols everywhere.

I think 3rd was the only box with the full multi pose kits. Every other 40k box was snap-fit. From a amount in box standpoint it was not that far from the 2nd or 4th ed boxes. But they have been putting more and more in the box with each edition. Kinda nice.

The starter set will have titans and fortifications

And nothing else...

I think in a perfect world I would like to see mega armoured squigs vs ...... Well it doesn't really matter what they fight.

In the real world it's very unlikely that SM won't be in the box as They continue to be GWs best seller. Maybe the new set will contain just flyers and some AA?

It will be 3 armies in the box. An O'vesa star, screamerstar + flying circus, and a Jetseer council + Wave Serpents in the same box. You will never have to get anything else but multiples of this box!

Obviously really expensive.