I will admit to getting a little irked when people refer to Ultramarines as “smurfs”. Mostly the meme-driven knee-jerk Ward hate. A recent batch of bad writing (in a universe full of it) and suddenly the army I’ve been playing for 20+ years is mocked.
I have a hard time taking anyone who uses derogatory terms for Space Marines or Space Marine players ("special snowflakes", "green marines" and so on) seriously. It's not as though people are constantly attacking their choice of armies (or, well, it usually isn't at least), so why do they have to be such dicks about it? Yes, I like Space Marines. If you don't, more power to you, but get off that high horse, you're playing 40k too.
I kind of have the same peeve about people answering questions that weren't asked, like posters #2 and #3.
The question was whether there was a mispronunciation that got on your nerves, not whether you like being mocked.
Seriously, get your gak together guys.
Back on topic, I am often slightly irritated when someone just can't seem to get it right, but only mildly. I mostly forget about it seconds later, as not everyone is a language person.
Skylifter wrote: I kind of have the same peeve about people answering questions that weren't asked, like posters #2 and #3.
The question was whether there was a mispronunciation that got on your nerves, not whether you like being mocked.
Seriously, get your gak together guys.
Back on topic, I am often slightly irritated when someone just can't seem to get it right, but only mildly. I mostly forget about it seconds later, as not everyone is a language person.
Calling a Space Marine a "special snowflake" is calling it by the wrong name, which is what the OP asked about.
AlmightyWalrus wrote: I have a hard time taking anyone who uses derogatory terms for Space Marines or Space Marine players ("special snowflakes", "green marines" and so on) seriously. It's not as though people are constantly attacking their choice of armies (or, well, it usually isn't at least), so why do they have to be such dicks about it? Yes, I like Space Marines. If you don't, more power to you, but get off that high horse, you're playing 40k too.
Yep, and what he meant was mispronunciations, as his examples clearly show. So first you don't pay attention, and then you try to split hairs.
I play Tau and catch myself doing this all the time.
People always ask why I don't give all my battlesuits fancy unique names and backstory...Then I have to explain to them how Tau names work...then they stop asking.
Me and my brother used to say "Tay-yu" for Tau xD Only because we had never heard anyone say the name and we were only tiny kids at the time, so we are forgiven
It's not as though people are constantly attacking their choice of armies (or, well, it usually isn't at least), so why do they have to be such dicks about it? Yes, I like Space Marines. If you don't, more power to you, but get off that high horse, you're playing 40k too.
Uh... you've seen the "OMG, Sisters of Battles are girlz!! Wai GW Let gurls be soljers!!11one!!eleven!11!" threads, right?
It's not as though people are constantly attacking their choice of armies (or, well, it usually isn't at least), so why do they have to be such dicks about it? Yes, I like Space Marines. If you don't, more power to you, but get off that high horse, you're playing 40k too.
Uh... you've seen the "OMG, Sisters of Battles are girlz!! Wai GW Let gurls be soljers!!11one!!eleven!11!" threads, right?
Using the odd names for the different factions are a form of camarderie. I'll often say smurfs or the pups or even the nuns with guns but I hear just as often about the gi-joes or i used to have a chaos marine army that was amythyst and gold that people called the purple pansies. We all laugh and joke about it because it is never EVER used to be mean. Heck, whener I play, I get ribbed because I'll say, Im shooting at those "critters' over there no matter whether its a bug army or a squad of terminaters, its just a figure of speach.
As I said, not once has anyone used it in a derogatory fashion to insult the person playing the army. They are making light of the army, not the person playing it. That being said, if anyone ever told me that calling their ultramarines 'smurfs" bothered them, I would apologize and make a mental note to not do it to them again.
On internet forums, and it bothers you, your just SOL because people will pounce on that and hound you with it.
I very often catch myself putting double c for acolyte.
The other one which I can never remember is the BA infernus or inferno pistol. BA get one, SoB get the other...
I have a habit of referring to some of the Greater Daemons by nicknames; such as "Fatty" for the GuO, "Big Bird" for the LoC, and "Butthirster" for the Bloodthirster. xD
I've met some people who pronounce Tyranids as Tie-ran-ids.
AlmightyWalrus wrote:I have a hard time taking anyone who uses derogatory terms for Space Marines or Space Marine players ("special snowflakes", "green marines" and so on) seriously. It's not as though people are constantly attacking their choice of armies (or, well, it usually isn't at least), so why do they have to be such dicks about it? Yes, I like Space Marines. If you don't, more power to you, but get off that high horse, you're playing 40k too.
Nevelon wrote:I will admit to getting a little irked when people refer to Ultramarines as “smurfs”. Mostly the meme-driven knee-jerk Ward hate. A recent batch of bad writing (in a universe full of it) and suddenly the army I’ve been playing for 20+ years is mocked.
It’s a minor irritation, but it’s there.
I have a general annoyance of all "Kool to say it rong" mentality and stupid nicknames. Like Smurfs, Space Puppies and the abbreviation " 'dex "... and especially " 'dexes ". Seriously - try putting it in a sentence and see how awkward it sounds to deliberately shorten that word for "coolness". It actually takes just as long to say because of the awkward syncopation, and sounds like you had a conniption half way through
SlaveToDorkness wrote:We used to say "Chim- era" instead of "Ki-meera" and laughed at those saying it correctly.... DOH!
Yes, I'm ashamed to say I learned this the wrong way as a kid, and even now have to catch and stop myself saying "Shim-era" most of the time (I'm 36yrs old - it's a very persistent issue). Luckily I never laughed at someone saying it correctly, but I do know the shame of that type of mistake.
It's not necessarily threads explicitly about them being soldiers. But sometimes when SoB or, more commonly, female IG are discussed, somebody will come in and disapprove of the idea of female soldiers in 40K.
It's not necessarily threads explicitly about them being soldiers. But sometimes when SoB or, more commonly, female IG are discussed, somebody will come in and disapprove of the idea of female soldiers in 40K.
Pfah. Ludicrous. 40K-universe women have as much right to kick ass as anyone else. They should not be allowed more asskicking than they're due just as some twisted 'compensation' (Which is a surprisingly common and frustrating error) but neither should they restricted from it.
Squidmanlolz wrote: I cannot stand the mispronunciation of Ymgarl.
It's English, people!
I believe the technical pronunciation is "yergen-hergen genestealers". At least that's I always called them when my friend used them.
feth this post. I just lolled and got ALOT of dirty looks.
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besides the obvious muscle-to-fat difference (women generally have more muscle then fat but still GENERALLY less then men).
also, women are much more emotionally in-tuned, my coach was in afghan and he talks to me about it, he has seen six people die. also, women (I'l say again because I couldn't be bothered with hate) GENERALLY have looser morals then men. women should be allowed in the military, but there are differences that must be acknowledged.
also, "storn-guard veterans"
"empyreal guard"
and I cant pronounce TH, comes out as F.
I've always gotten a kick out of "Ymgarl" pronunciations.
Gym girls
Young girls
Yummy girls
Ok none of those are appropriate, but whatever! I do however get annoyed at the difference between Hive and Tyrant guard... it's pretty simple in my mind. If they're around a Tyrant, they're Tyrant guard. If not, they're Hive.
jifel wrote: I've always gotten a kick out of "Ymgarl" pronunciations.
Gym girls
Young girls
Yummy girls
Ok none of those are appropriate, but whatever! I do however get annoyed at the difference between Hive and Tyrant guard... it's pretty simple in my mind. If they're around a Tyrant, they're Tyrant guard. If not, they're Hive.
I play against alot of IG. Frankly I can't tell all the artillery and tanks apart. Look like tanks to me. Anyways I say Lemon Russ, Basilist and Manacore. All do to my white trash genetics. All this while pointing to the wrong models. My friends hate me....
Oh, another thing the same guy used to say was "Adeptus Allbrites". Followed by stifled guffaws all around.
Luckily he was a bit hard of hearing (from no ear protection at a factory metal stamping job) so he never heard us chuckling and said his idiotic things VERY loudly.
He used to "stage whisper" during 2nd edition to his partner (we played a lot of team games) "I've got two nullifies" during the ever so secretive Psychic Phase. Basically a poker game in the middle of each turn.
The best though was during a game of DnD when the party came upon another armed group on the road. One of them rode towards us and called "Parlay?" Some one asked what he'd said and this guy yells "They're looking for someone named "Parlay!"
Its annoys me when people say chimera wrong.
They have heard it pronounced correctly thousands of times. the only reason I can imagine they say it wrong now is to be annoying.
karlosovic wrote: I have a general annoyance of all "Kool to say it rong" mentality and stupid nicknames.
Like Smurfs, Space Puppies and the abbreviation " 'dex "... and especially " 'dexes ". Seriously - try putting it in a sentence and see how awkward it sounds to deliberately shorten that word for "coolness". It actually takes just as long to say because of the awkward syncopation, and sounds like you had a conniption half way through
While we're on that, I am totally that guy who makes sure people knows the proper plural of "codex" is "codices" and not "codexes." Yay American education system!
I admit I'm guilty of a lot of the nicknames of all armies thing, but at least I apply it evenly as I constantly mock my own army. I call my Dark Angels the "Dork Angels" or "Watermelon Marines" quite frequently.
My personal favorite is calling Tyranid "the Zerg" around our one player in the group that simply does not have a sense of humor.
I've also personally witnessed several discussions about the proper way to say "Tzeentch." Clearly, phoenetically, it's pronounced, "oh-BAH-ma."
I don't mind when people mispronounce things on accident or out of a lack of knowledge. (there are a lot of different types of Tyranids and it can get confusing for those that don't play them...)
However, it does get under my skin when people intentionally call units derogatory terms. For example:
Hellturkey - No it's a Heldrake (note the 1 L)
Smurfs - No. They are Ultramarines. Not Ultrasmurfs, Smurfs, Blueberries or whatever else.
I actually don't like these terms for these units because it is an attempt to devalue the unit referred to. I love the fluff around around 40k and I would even go so far as to say I respect it. *shrug*
It's not the dumb nickname itself that annoys me, but it's a symptom of the misplaced smugness exhibited by many of the people doing it - like "yeh that's right, hello Laaaydies"".
Now, I know Warhammer is not exactly the most manly and cool hobby to begin with; but there's having an interest in something a bit nerdy, and then there's behaving like the type of guy who can't help himself but be awkward in public
I find it a bit annoying how my Ork playing friend cant say Battlewagon.. He always, Every single time, Calls it Battleworgen. I keep telling him that worgen is a race in WoW and has nothing to do with Warhammer 40k and that it is Battlewagon, But he just keeps calling it Battleworgen..
One of my friends always refers to one of the DA special characters as "Trumiel".
Another friend consistently calls the Zoanthropes "Zeanthropes" or something to that effect. It's funny just to listen to him pronouncing that vague "what-am-I?" vowel in the first syllable. He is also very persistent about mistaking Meltaguns for Plasma Guns and the other way around, even though everyone else keeps correcting him each time.
Btw, I also pronounce the name "Tie-ra-nidz". Sue me.
SRSFACE wrote: While we're on that, I am totally that guy who makes sure people knows the proper plural of "codex" is "codices" and not "codexes."
Except that's not actually true. In English, either is correct.
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SarisKhan wrote: Btw, I also pronounce the name "Tie-ra-nidz". Sue me.
The 'tie-ra-nid' pronunciation comes from people assuming that the planet they were named after (Tyran) should presumably be pronounced 'tie-ran'. Which seems most likely... but I still prefer the other pronunciation just because it sounds better...
I end up calling my brother's Tau squad leaders Shassy Wassies, because I can never remember which Shas's are which.
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AlmightyWalrus wrote: I have a hard time taking anyone who uses derogatory terms for Space Marines or Space Marine players ("special snowflakes", "green marines" and so on) seriously. It's not as though people are constantly attacking their choice of armies (or, well, it usually isn't at least), so why do they have to be such dicks about it? Yes, I like Space Marines. If you don't, more power to you, but get off that high horse, you're playing 40k too.
So much this. I get flakk for playing a power armoured army, people taking the p*ss that they're different marines and such, and then proceed to have the ever living gak beaten out me by the likes of Tau or Daemons, all the while being called an OP noob for having 3+'s. Sucks man
I don't really have a grief of mispronunciations. I hate it when people call Astartes 'Space Marines' because it makes no damnable sense when they refer to themselves as Astartes. Space Marine is just the informal weird thing Games Workshop calls them for no good reason. Astartes sounds original and intriguing. Space Marine is a trope.
As far as 40k goes I´m fine but I often play a dude who keeps calling Mohsar Moshar and that´s pretty annoying.
Another dude I play with has terrible problems to pronounce the th sound, his army of Menos is an acoustic pain...
SRSFACE wrote: While we're on that, I am totally that guy who makes sure people knows the proper plural of "codex" is "codices" and not "codexes."
Except that's not actually true. In English, either is correct.
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SarisKhan wrote: Btw, I also pronounce the name "Tie-ra-nidz". Sue me.
The 'tie-ra-nid' pronunciation comes from people assuming that the planet they were named after (Tyran) should presumably be pronounced 'tie-ran'. Which seems most likely... but I still prefer the other pronunciation just because it sounds better...
I thought the planet was called Tyranus Prime?
Anyways, I hate when people pronounce Njal as Nigel... They can pronounce Bjorn just fine, or Jarl from Skyrim, but they can't seem to say that one right! The J's make a Y sound!!!
A lot of this stuff is subjective as there's no 'official' way of pronouncing it. For example, I pronounce the Necron Gauss so that it rhymes with 'house', my friend pronounces it so that it rhymes with 'horse'. I also say Ti-ra-nids, and not Tie-ra-nids . Another one that came up last game was 'Coteaz'. I say 'Ko-Tea-Az', he says 'Ko-Tay-Az'. Can't say mispronunciations annoy me though, why would they?
tyrannosaurus wrote: A lot of this stuff is subjective as there's no 'official' way of pronouncing it. For example, I pronounce the Necron Gauss so that it rhymes with 'house', my friend pronounces it so that it rhymes with 'horse'. I also say Ti-ra-nids, and not Tie-ra-nids . Another one that came up last game was 'Coteaz'. I say 'Ko-Tea-Az', he says 'Ko-Tay-Az'. Can't say mispronunciations annoy me though, why would they?
Wyzilla wrote: I don't really have a grief of mispronunciations. I hate it when people call Astartes 'Space Marines' because it makes no damnable sense when they refer to themselves as Astartes. Space Marine is just the informal weird thing Games Workshop calls them for no good reason. Astartes sounds original and intriguing. Space Marine is a trope.
Sorry bro, they were called Space Marines first, and it's still called "Codex: Space Marines". It's not some "informal weird thing"
Have a look at the name of pretty much every model in this army's category (and the name of the category, itself):
They're all called "Space Marines"
Feel free to also call them Astartes if you like, but no one is wrong to say "Space Marine"
Wyzilla wrote: I don't really have a grief of mispronunciations. I hate it when people call Astartes 'Space Marines' because it makes no damnable sense when they refer to themselves as Astartes. Space Marine is just the informal weird thing Games Workshop calls them for no good reason. Astartes sounds original and intriguing. Space Marine is a trope.
Sorry bro, they were called Space Marines first, and it's still called "Codex: Space Marines". It's not some "informal weird thing"
Have a look at the name of pretty much every model in this army's category (and the name of the category, itself):
They're all called "Space Marines"
Feel free to also call them Astartes if you like, but no one is wrong to say "Space Marine"
Astartes sounds SO much cooler though, and less 80's...
Wyzilla wrote: I don't really have a grief of mispronunciations. I hate it when people call Astartes 'Space Marines' because it makes no damnable sense when they refer to themselves as Astartes. Space Marine is just the informal weird thing Games Workshop calls them for no good reason. Astartes sounds original and intriguing. Space Marine is a trope.
Sorry bro, they were called Space Marines first, and it's still called "Codex: Space Marines". It's not some "informal weird thing"
Have a look at the name of pretty much every model in this army's category (and the name of the category, itself):
They're all called "Space Marines"
Feel free to also call them Astartes if you like, but no one is wrong to say "Space Marine"
It doesn't matter what they were called originally (especially the old fluff, it's from a worse day that is best buried and forgotten), it's a matter of originality and what they refer to themselves in-universe. Plus GW is fine and proper to copyright the words Adeptus Astartes, they however have tried and failed to lay claim (and rightfully so) to the trope 'Space Marine'.
Wyzilla wrote:...Games Workshop calls them [Space Marines] for no good reason....
....It doesn't matter what they were called originally
Hard to argue with that logic
Automatically Appended Next Post: I'm not arguing there's no case to call them "Astartes", though.
It might be a cooler word, might be more original, might be less 80's - and those are all good reasons.
But when the company that invented, makes, and sells them, continually refers to them as "Space Marines", you can't really nerd rage all over the people who follow GW's lead
Wyzilla wrote:...Games Workshop calls them [Space Marines] for no good reason....
....It doesn't matter what they were called originally
Hard to argue with that logic
Except it is true. Space Marine simply is a trope, calling them space marines is simply bad management and prevents you from being able to copyright the term. Plus having a literal Codex: Adeptus Astartes would make most sense fluffwise as well than Codex: Space Marine. Astartes is more original and unique than the blanket term of Space Marine, which invokes no sense of respect for me but rather something of a bland, generic nature such as the Smurfs.
Well I think "Smurfs" probably *is* a copyrighted word, and Smurfs are anything but generic
You know what, don't worry, I don't want to argue about it. You're right that "Astartes" would be a better word.... it's just I've always called them "Space Marines" because that's what it says on the box
Automatically Appended Next Post: Just lay off the old fluff, it was fine.
It's the new fluff that is crap.... what, with it's "the way Russ intended" bull$#!+ that means Wolf Guard can't lead Blood Claws if they have jump packs, even though the Wolf Guard can still all have jump packs themselves. Talk about logic fail
karlosovic wrote: I have a general annoyance of all "Kool to say it rong" mentality and stupid nicknames.
Like Smurfs, Space Puppies and the abbreviation " 'dex "... and especially " 'dexes ". Seriously - try putting it in a sentence and see how awkward it sounds to deliberately shorten that word for "coolness". It actually takes just as long to say because of the awkward syncopation, and sounds like you had a conniption half way through
While we're on that, I am totally that guy who makes sure people knows the proper plural of "codex" is "codices" and not "codexes." Yay American education system!
I've also personally witnessed several discussions about the proper way to say "Tzeentch." Clearly, phoenetically, it's pronounced, "oh-BAH-ma."
LOL, You do know that the americas are 2 continents Many people, even U.S.A. citizens make the mistake of calling the U.S.A "America". The Americas also contain other countries such as Canada, Mexico and so forth and dont have a unifying education system.
Ultra marines are ultramarines, they are also smurfs. Tyranids are also zerg and bugs and so on and so forth. They are not intended to devalue the fluff. They are simple names to help people keep the armies and what they do and how they play in their mind. I've been playing since the very beginning and few have more respect forthe fluff than i do. As a matter of fact, I'm the guy you see railing against GW when they change or alter the fluff. Removeal of the Space Slann?, Killing off of the squats? Removal of the Illuminati and the LITERAL Emperors biological children he fathered and so on and so forth. These things disrespected the fluff far more than a few harmless nicknames. These nicknames are nothing against the game or the fluff and are not intended to be disrespectful to the players either. If someone complains, I stop and mke a point to not say it. If it is a freind, I wil use them just to rib at them in good fun as they do the same to me. If it is some jerk who is TFG, I might just to get their goat.
The Codex Astartes is different from Codex: Space Marines. And naming the book after if wouldn't really be fluffy given that it's, technically, totally different.
But I agree with others. The developers call them Space Marines. Your logic isn't bad, just unreasonable. Now if GW called them Astartes and people used the name Space Marines for them, then your argument would be reasonable.
But they don't really need to copyright the name of the faction anyway. They have the copyright to the whole IP. So if anyone wanted to make a force of bulky metal soldiers and explicitly call them Space Marines, GW would have a case against them. Then those ones can be called Terran Marines and all is right in the world.
SRSFACE wrote: While we're on that, I am totally that guy who makes sure people knows the proper plural of "codex" is "codices" and not "codexes."
Except that's not actually true. In English, either is correct.
Yes, it's been settled several times that both are correct. But some people won't have it.
Not 40K, but in Warmahordes a whole lot of models have been given nicknames by the Internet, and those are getting a little bit old in my opinion. Harby, Denny, Brisby, Gunny, Judy
EVIL INC wrote:LOL, You do know that the americas are 2 continents
I've given up trying to point that out, no one listens
EVIL INC wrote:Ultra marines are ultramarines, they are also smurfs. Tyranids are also zerg and bugs and so on and so forth.
Uh...
Smurfs live in mushrooms and like to spend all day singing and frolicking, whereas Ultramarines have guns and armour, and like to spend all day killing their enemies.
So there's a few differences. (but their leaders both wear red hats, so I guess there's something in common)
On the other hand....
Yeh those are pretty similar
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I also used to say [ty-ran-id]... but someone pointed out that tyranny is pronounced [ti-ran-i]
Then again tyrant is pronounced [ty-rant].... so now I'm confused
The guys at the shop get a laugh at me because of what I call what I'f shooting at (this get worse as i get more tired). At 6'11", getting old, bad back, bad knees and so forth, the longer the day gets, the more i hurt and the harder it is to think. I'll shoot at those 'critters". Doesnt matter if its bugs or smurfs or eldar whojamawhatsits, they are ALL critters to me.
I like to call all of 40K "that game of little toy solders" just to get a rise out of the players that take it so seriously. It's pretty funny to watch the reactions.
It's usually the old Neckbeards that get the most upset.
Not 40K, but in Warmahordes a whole lot of models have been given nicknames by the Internet, and those are getting a little bit old in my opinion. Harby, Denny, Brisby, Gunny, Judy
I kind of agree with that one. "Lord Tarter Sauce" gets a pass from me though. "Hey, what's in your list" "well, I brought the sauce"
One that gets me is "Flying Circus" for any army that includes lots of Flyers or FMCs. The original army named that was Harlequins (Clowns) in Falcons (Flying things). That's where it comes from. Tons of FMCs doesn't equal "Flying Circus" at all.
SlaveToDorkness wrote: One that gets me is "Flying Circus" for any army that includes lots of Flyers or FMCs. The original army named that was Harlequins (Clowns) in Falcons (Flying things). That's where it comes from. Tons of FMCs doesn't equal "Flying Circus" at all.
Yes, I am petty.
I thought it was because people who use this lists are a JOKE!
get it?
I have a friend who pronounces paladins pal-ah-dins rather than pal-ad-ins. That gets to me.
Uh, a lot of the ""gothic"" (and I use quadruple quotes for emphasis) words, sororitas, ecclesiarchy, astartes, etc. are pronounced incorrectly, that gets to me.
Oh, my pet peeve is when people call my Gun Drones Shield Drones. They are not Shield Drones. And you can not blame me because you're making that mistake.
Banzaimash wrote: I end up calling my brother's Tau squad leaders Shassy Wassies, because I can never remember which Shas's are which.
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AlmightyWalrus wrote: I have a hard time taking anyone who uses derogatory terms for Space Marines or Space Marine players ("special snowflakes", "green marines" and so on) seriously. It's not as though people are constantly attacking their choice of armies (or, well, it usually isn't at least), so why do they have to be such dicks about it? Yes, I like Space Marines. If you don't, more power to you, but get off that high horse, you're playing 40k too.
So much this. I get flakk for playing a power armoured army, people taking the p*ss that they're different marines and such, and then proceed to have the ever living gak beaten out me by the likes of Tau or Daemons, all the while being called an OP noob for having 3+'s. Sucks man
My friend used to call his squad of Crisis suits the "w--boo fightin' magics." (Interesting, I was unaware Dakka censored the weabs).
I'm also not a fan of the alternate names of the various Space Marines. I've heard them so many times already it's simply gotten annoying.
On topic, there was a guy at a store I used to go to that spent an entire day saying "Rendering" instead of "rending."
Scipio Africanus wrote: I have a friend who pronounces paladins pal-ah-dins rather than pal-ad-ins. That gets to me.
Are you saying paladin should rhyme with Aladdin? I think I'm confused on the two pronunciations here...
Oh, my pet peeve is when people call my Gun Drones Shield Drones. They are not Shield Drones. And you can not blame me because you're making that mistake.
Well, as long as your Gun Drones have guns and your Shield Drones don't, that's like a non marine player mistaking a Rhino for a Razorback. Understandable, but also completely their fault.
Most of the ones that drive me nuts are in writing. When people misspell Tigurius it just crawls under my skin and takes a dump. (Tigerius, Tigruris, etc.)
One that is wargaming related, although not necessarily 40k related, is the word 'lose.' Everytime I see someone write a message in tactics saying they need help because they keep loosing games, I want to drive my face through my own keyboard.
TIE-RA-NIDS. As Daniel Bryan would say. YES! YES! YES!
Just having for for those who take it to serious.
I offer you the f-d up world of the english language:
Now if mouse in the plural should be, and is, mice,
Then house in the plural, of course, should be hice,
And grouse should be grice and spouse should be spice
And by the same token should blouse become blice.
And consider the goose with its plural of geese;
Then a double caboose should be called a cabeese,
And noose should be neese and moose should be meese
And if mama’s papoose should be twins, it’s papeese.
Then if one thing is that, while some more is called those,
Then more than one hat, I assume, would be hose,
And gnat would be gnose and pat would be pose,
And likewise the plural of rat would be rose
tyrannosaurus wrote: A lot of this stuff is subjective as there's no 'official' way of pronouncing it. For example, I pronounce the Necron Gauss so that it rhymes with 'house', my friend pronounces it so that it rhymes with 'horse'.
I offer you the f-d up world of the english language:
Now if mouse in the plural should be, and is, mice,
Then house in the plural, of course, should be hice,
And grouse should be grice and spouse should be spice
And by the same token should blouse become blice.
And consider the goose with its plural of geese;
Then a double caboose should be called a cabeese,
And noose should be neese and moose should be meese
And if mama’s papoose should be twins, it’s papeese.
Then if one thing is that, while some more is called those,
Then more than one hat, I assume, would be hose,
And gnat would be gnose and pat would be pose,
And likewise the plural of rat would be rose
Logic does not apply here
Hah, my school library has exactly such a poem about the Dutch language.
I pronounce tyranids: as Teer-a-nids, like tyranny
hive tyrant: as Tie-rant
probably one that does get on other people nerves that i do is tzeentch: as Zeetch I drop the "N" not sure why but it sounds more "right" to me.
Most of the ones that drive me nuts are in writing. When people misspell Tigurius it just crawls under my skin and takes a dump. (Tigerius, Tigruris, etc.)
One that is wargaming related, although not necessarily 40k related, is the word 'lose.' Everytime I see someone write a message in tactics saying they need help because they keep loosing games, I want to drive my face through my own keyboard.
That's a subtle nod there, Jim. Also I meant Paladin so that it rhymes with aladin.
I think you have a lose understanding of the topic at hand and because of your unruly comments we're starting to loose focus on the subject at hand.
A couple more:
Iron being pronounced eye-ron rather than eye-orn. (Iron Hands)
One I heard was Alpha being said Al-pa
There are others, a lot of people call Konrad Curze Konrad Cruise, Omegon is mispronounced omegaon, sanguinius is mispronounced san-gwin-yus instead of sang-win-ee-us.
Roboute Guillaume is pronounced row-boot gwill-ee-awh-m instead of Ro-boot gee-awh-m
I'd take issue with the pronunciation of Sanguinius.
The 'e' that gives sanguine it's "rhymes with wine" pronunciation is absent, and therefore "rhymes with whinny-us" is, to my mind, a better fit with Latin pronunciation. I've certainly never heard anyone say it your way, doesn't make it wrong, but it might make it the minority.
Most of the ones that drive me nuts are in writing. When people misspell Tigurius it just crawls under my skin and takes a dump. (Tigerius, Tigruris, etc.)
One that is wargaming related, although not necessarily 40k related, is the word 'lose.' Everytime I see someone write a message in tactics saying they need help because they keep loosing games, I want to drive my face through my own keyboard.
That's a subtle nod there, Jim. Also I meant Paladin so that it rhymes with aladin.
I think you have a lose understanding of the topic at hand and because of your unruly comments we're starting to loose focus on the subject at hand.
A couple more:
Iron being pronounced eye-ron rather than eye-orn. (Iron Hands)
One I heard was Alpha being said Al-pa
There are others, a lot of people call Konrad Curze Konrad Cruise, Omegon is mispronounced omegaon, sanguinius is mispronounced san-gwin-yus instead of sang-win-ee-us.
Roboute Guillaume is pronounced row-boot gwill-ee-awh-m instead of Ro-boot gee-awh-m
I pronounce Sanguinius as "San-gwin-ee-us" if you say "Sang-win-ee-us" it sound like you have a speech impediment.
I'll go a step further. if you say "Sang-win-ee-us" as you say. then by that account you then have to pronounce Sanguinary Guard as "Sang-win-ery" and that sounds like some sort of toilet manufacturer. And also every single Audio book I have heard the Voice actor has allways pronounced it as "San-gwin-ee-us". If they did pronounce it as "Sang-win-ee-us" I would think that Heavy entertainment, and Black Library had employed Ceaser from Life of Brian to read the book.
Most of the ones that drive me nuts are in writing. When people misspell Tigurius it just crawls under my skin and takes a dump. (Tigerius, Tigruris, etc.)
One that is wargaming related, although not necessarily 40k related, is the word 'lose.' Everytime I see someone write a message in tactics saying they need help because they keep loosing games, I want to drive my face through my own keyboard.
That's a subtle nod there, Jim. Also I meant Paladin so that it rhymes with aladin.
I think you have a lose understanding of the topic at hand and because of your unruly comments we're starting to loose focus on the subject at hand.
A couple more:
Iron being pronounced eye-ron rather than eye-orn. (Iron Hands)
One I heard was Alpha being said Al-pa
There are others, a lot of people call Konrad Curze Konrad Cruise, Omegon is mispronounced omegaon, sanguinius is mispronounced san-gwin-yus instead of sang-win-ee-us.
Roboute Guillaume is pronounced row-boot gwill-ee-awh-m instead of Ro-boot gee-awh-m
I pronounce paladin as pal-ah-din and have never in my 20 years on this planet heard it pronounced any other way. I say Lay-mon Russ, Zen-tch, san-gwin-yus, Row-boo Gee-ah-mon, eye-ron, tear-ah-nids, and probably a couple others no one agrees with me on. Shoot me.
Most of the ones that drive me nuts are in writing. When people misspell Tigurius it just crawls under my skin and takes a dump. (Tigerius, Tigruris, etc.)
One that is wargaming related, although not necessarily 40k related, is the word 'lose.' Everytime I see someone write a message in tactics saying they need help because they keep loosing games, I want to drive my face through my own keyboard.
That's a subtle nod there, Jim. Also I meant Paladin so that it rhymes with aladin.
I think you have a lose understanding of the topic at hand and because of your unruly comments we're starting to loose focus on the subject at hand.
A couple more:
Iron being pronounced eye-ron rather than eye-orn. (Iron Hands)
One I heard was Alpha being said Al-pa
There are others, a lot of people call Konrad Curze Konrad Cruise, Omegon is mispronounced omegaon, sanguinius is mispronounced san-gwin-yus instead of sang-win-ee-us.
Roboute Guillaume is pronounced row-boot gwill-ee-awh-m instead of Ro-boot gee-awh-m
I pronounce paladin as pal-ah-din and have never in my 20 years on this planet heard it pronounced any other way. I say Lay-mon Russ, Zen-tch, san-gwin-yus, Row-boo Gee-ah-mon, eye-ron, tear-ah-nids, and probably a couple others no one agrees with me on. Shoot me.
That's a subtle nod there, Jim. Also I meant Paladin so that it rhymes with aladin.
LOL, I completely[u] forgot about your character post in that article you wrote. Sorry, wasn't trying to slam on you. (You had a typo at the top of his section. All the other uses were spelled right, so you obviously know how to do it.) I was more thinking about the nine billion posts I've seen about Tigurius since the new 'dex has dropped, and how it seems more common to misspell his name than to get it right.
I think you have a lose understanding of the topic at hand and because of your unruly comments we're starting to loose focus on the subject at hand.
I think I just chewed two of my own fingers off...
SlaveToDorkness wrote:One that gets me is "Flying Circus" for any army that includes lots of Flyers or FMCs. The original army named that was Harlequins (Clowns) in Falcons (Flying things). That's where it comes from. Tons of FMCs doesn't equal "Flying Circus" at all.
Yes, I am petty.
It's not from Monty Python's Flying Circus?
McNinja wrote:I'm also not a fan of the alternate names of the various Space Marines. I've heard them so many times already it's simply gotten annoying.
This! I relate it to the video game Need for Speed: Underground where it seems they did a [Find - Replace] ALL (as in EVERY single) reference to money/cash/income/winning and replaced them with the word "Bank"..... the amount of Try-Hard-but-fail made me want to hurt someone
Flinty wrote:How have we got to page 4 with no mention of that firm family favourite, Rouge Trader
For when you absolutely positively need to buy some serious red, accept no substitutes
ahaha!! Did you play WoW?! So many dungeon groups looking for something red
SlaveToDorkness wrote:One that gets me is "Flying Circus" for any army that includes lots of Flyers or FMCs. The original army named that was Harlequins (Clowns) in Falcons (Flying things). That's where it comes from. Tons of FMCs doesn't equal "Flying Circus" at all.
Matt.Kingsley wrote: I was mainly talking about the second t. The first t is silent, though (at least, I believe it is)
I typed it in the second one so I would have to explain WHICH t I meant.
so, instead of [Zeentch] they say [Zench]
oh.. also when people say [Zinch] I've only heard 1 person say it like that but god it annoys me more thanin should...
There was a whole thread about the correct pronouncation of Tzeentch a while back.
The correct pronouncation is: zI:ntʃ
Tz sounds like tz in Tzar, which means that the first t is silent.
ee sounds like ea in tea
n is just n
the second t is not silent.
ch sounds ch in church.
It's not as though people are constantly attacking their choice of armies (or, well, it usually isn't at least), so why do they have to be such dicks about it? Yes, I like Space Marines. If you don't, more power to you, but get off that high horse, you're playing 40k too.
Uh... you've seen the "OMG, Sisters of Battles are girlz!! Wai GW Let gurls be soljers!!11one!!eleven!11!" threads, right?
Do they actually exist?
Never seen one.
Seconded. I would need to see a thread like that, as I have never seen one, much less the amount to take into plural.
I've never seen anyone challenge the Sister's right to a place in the 40k universe. The closest would be people telling sisters players to stop whining about our lack of plastics or saying that they would be indefferent to them being squatted.
On topic, a mistake I see all over the place that makes me vomit that I also see in 40k is "turrent." I cannot fathom why this is a thing.
SRSFACE wrote: While we're on that, I am totally that guy who makes sure people knows the proper plural of "codex" is "codices" and not "codexes."
Except that's not actually true. In English, either is correct.
That's technically true because language is always "correct" if the person you're talking to understands what you meant but out of the 15 or so dictionaries I just checked, only a single one had "codexes" listed as a way to pronounce the plural.
Granted it was the Oxford English dictionary and they are kind of the authorities, but still!
@EVIL INC: Don't be that guy. The United States of America is the only country that actually has "America" in the name, so logically people assume correctly when someone is using the term, it's in reference to the United States. The people there are known as "Americans" on every corner of the globe. It has nothing to do with arrogance or ignorance. It's just what it is. You can call people from any country in the South American continent by the signifier for the citizen of whatever country they happen to be from (ie: Brazilian, Mexican, Peruvian, etc.). I legitimately don't understand the statement you're trying to make. Pretty sure people figured out the implied connotation I was referring to the United States education system, man.
About the Guilliman thing: I tend to pronounce names like that as they're presented in officially licenced media. The thing with "names" is they're pronounced however we're told to pronounce it.
I believe the fresh recruit Ultramarine in the Space Marine video game pronounced it "GWILL-le-min" rather than take the French or Spanish style double L and turn it into a "ya" sound.
I know I still struggle with Abaddon. I know how the English pronounce it and I am pretty sure that's the "proper" way but my American sensibilities still flip it to emphasize the first syllable rather than the second, and with more of an "o" sound. Here's an example of the Dota 2 character of the same name pronouncing it and I'm pretty sure that's the intention by the game creators seeing as I know that's the more typical way it's prounounced in the UK. We from the States tend to say it more like it's a dinosaur name.
Also, the biggest one people make is Synapse. There are two correct pronounciations: Sin-apse and Sie-napse.
I have a problem I guess calling it (Si-napse), but that is the way the word was taught to me by my Abnormal Psychology Professor in the three years of Psychology that I took in college.
Other than that, I have been bad with calling the Chimera (Chim-era) because I was a kid when I first got one. Old habbits don't die easy. I am also really bad at at typing Lemon Russ instead of Leman.
Most mispronunciations in the game don't bother me much. Everyone has a different way of pronouncing words and when I was a kid I had a speech disorder and because of that I understand.
