Following on from another thread, what do you think is the best melee weapon in the game?

My personal favorite has to be the power fist, mainly because even with the power field off you can just punch people with it. IIRC this happened in Storm of Iron, one of the characters just turned off the power field, punched a sorcerer and said 'next time the power field will be on'. I've loved them ever since :3

I'll repost my melee based reply from the other thread.

I don't know about favorite melee weapon, but my least favorite is certainly the the Honor Blade...because it's equipped on Aun`Shi who is always sitting there in my special character section with a giant troll face whispering "come on, spend the points on me. You know you want to kill stuff in close combat with Tau. You can do it... just give me a devilfish and a squad of fire warriors...I can make them Stubborn..."

 dementedwombat wrote:
I'll repost my melee based reply from the other thread.

I don't know about favorite melee weapon, but my least favorite is certainly the the Honor Blade...because it's equipped on Aun`Shi who is always sitting there in my special character section with a giant troll face whispering "come on, spend the points on me. You know you want to kill stuff in close combat with Tau. You can do it... just give me a devilfish and a squad of fire warriors...I can make them Stubborn..."

Never saw the point in Aun'Shi, he's just a more costly Ethereal

Burning Blade, Black Mace, Axe Blind Fury.

Without going into Lords of War?

Karandras' Scorpion Claw.

The common power weapon. More specifically, every one, magnetized. Swap around to as you will.

Now I think of it, what's to stop a player in a tournament from doing this and swapping out depending on the enemy he faces next? The rulebook just says 'look at the weapon' and the codex says 'weapon' not axe, sword or maul.

Also the thunder hammer cos it's stylish as hell

MURDER SWORD!!!!!

Nemesis Greatsword, cause rerollables and stuff

Rusty nail through plank of wood

The Mace of Redemption. It can thrash around guys well enough while being affordable and being able to get another attack because of it's lack of specialist. Plus, It's a huge mace that doesn't suck and gets better against one army type while providing a chance to debuff the enemy through blind.

the runners up being the Mace's of absolution and the Corvus hammer. The other maces 1 shot super move makes it exciting and the corvus hammer's rend can make it a pretty good weapon.

if only independent characters could use these >>

Power fist because punching someone results in crippling them to a piece of gore splattered scrap metal.

The Power Klaw of course. Orks are behind the curve in the current meta but everyone still gets a little nervous if those Power Klaws manage to get into close combat.

I sorta like Gorechild.

 BrotherHaraldus wrote:
I sorta like Gorechild.

I never got this:
Gorefather
Gorechild
Goremother?

I'm quite partial to LC, they just scream awesome. My all out favourite is the Burning Blade though, its just so OP.

Nurgle Chaos Daemon's Balesword. I know a lot of people don't run Nurgle Princes or GUOs, but I usually run both and end up slapping this thing on one of them, usually the DP due to lack of natural poison, but poison + Instant Death...on a high initiative FMC with Biomancy...there's so much I like about this.

For me its a tie between Nemesis haleberds for sheer looks, and force weapons in general

I quite like the dawn blade. To bat there's only one of them.

Close Combat Weapon.

 Trondheim wrote:
For me its a tie between Nemesis haleberds for sheer looks, and force weapons in general

Have to agree on the Nemesis Force Halberds, awesome weapons!

DCCW!
Because they are awesome on SM dreads and deff dreads, and killa kans.

Gotta be the War Scythe. +2S, strikes at initiative, AP2 and costs like 10 points.

For game rules? I'm partial to Chainfists. Gives you everything you want in a weapon apart from speed.

On pure style? The classic chainsword. It's a chainsaw! That's a sword! Totally awesome, totally stupid and totally 40k.

A set of Bonesabres. Seriously, AP 2 at initiative, always causes Instant Death and confers a 4+ invulnerable.

 BrotherOfBone wrote:

 dementedwombat wrote:
I'll repost my melee based reply from the other thread.

I don't know about favorite melee weapon, but my least favorite is certainly the the Honor Blade...because it's equipped on Aun`Shi who is always sitting there in my special character section with a giant troll face whispering "come on, spend the points on me. You know you want to kill stuff in close combat with Tau. You can do it... just give me a devilfish and a squad of fire warriors...I can make them Stubborn..."

Never saw the point in Aun'Shi, he's just a more costly Ethereal

Pretty much because he's the best close combat thing in Tau (well..there's farsight...but he's in a battlesuit while Aun`Shi doesn't even have a shirt on so that gets style points) and I always feel that creeping temptation to take him just so I can say I won in close combat with Tau.

The Black Mace on a Daemon Prince is rather impressive. Of the "goodbye, nob bikers" kind of impressive. :(

Solis Luna Astrum wrote:
Gotta be the War Scythe. +2S, strikes at initiative, AP2 and costs like 10 points.

This. Warscythes are beastmode.

TCCW

Will kill any melee powerhouse that is on the bad end of it. Hell it will kill just about anything that gets on the recieving side.

I like the venom blade, myself. Wounds on a 2+ and only costs 5 points. Can't beat that.

Burning Blade: S+3 AP2 and Blind, and it strikes at Initiative! Sure, you have a minute chance to burn yourself, but that's for misusing the Emprah's Sword.

Gorechild with the Black Mace as a close second. When I want to feel like Sauron, I put the Black Mace on a Daemon Prince, but there is too much awesome in Gorechild for that to be the only reason it beats it.

Necron Warscythe. One of the only decent Necron melee weappons so it's my favorite.

And Whip Coils for the

The Eviscerator.

Because two-handed chainswords that are 8 feet long, that's why.

Eldar Ghost weapons. Psychocrystal infused with the essence of a dead relative that makes the sword alive and vengeful as hell? Yes.

Titan CCW.

Has nobody said the swarmlord yet? Cause if not...then yeah, him

It depends on the model that the weapon is mounted on. For example, if you're already I1, then a Power Axe is far better than a power sword, but at I4 it becomes far more situational. For a model with only 1 attack, an Onager Gauntlet is fantastic, but mount it on a model with 6 or 7 attacks and it becomes a hindrance.
With that being said, titan CCW.

Demi klaves on an incubi nothing says bye bye like ap2 at silly initive with the option to boost strength for tough stuff or attacks for the littler stuff plus you can even get more extra attacks with onslaught. Or the husk blade ap2 instant death at init. Choppy choppy!

Apart from titan CCWs, I haven't seen anyone suggest anything I'd trade away my Swarmlord's Bonesabres for.

Perhaps a certain bloodthirster's two axes? One of which is Armourbane and the other Fleshbane

*edit* woops forgot his warlord trait gives ID

Gotta love Fuegan's Fire Axe.. +1s, AP1 and Armourbane, and at i7, nothing quite excels at junking Dreads and Tanks like it!

I've had his squad charged by a Venerable Dread and before it got to swing, it had already taken 3 penetrating hits with 3 Explodes results

OuroborosTriumphant wrote:For game rules? I'm partial to Chainfists. Gives you everything you want in a weapon apart from speed.

On pure style? The classic chainsword. It's a chainsaw! That's a sword! Totally awesome, totally stupid and totally 40k.

You may want to look up Eviscerators, then. They're Chainswords that work like Chainfists.

Although sadly, they can no longer take an Exterminator attachment. Sadface.

My favourite melee weapon, on the basis of looks, has to be the humble Astartes Combat Knife. It's just so elegant and deadly in its simplicity.

Also, much like Sting, it makes an excellent short sword for a smaller character (although smaller in this case means 'human size').

Drach'Nyen.
Because even though Abaddon doesn't have arms, this sword makes him the ultimate badass at I5 and AP2.

Close Combat Weapon - nothing better for the price,

Jefffar wrote:
Close Combat Weapon - nothing better for the price,

'cept a bolt pistol, which comes with a free close combat weapon. :p

 Greenwingf_ftw wrote:
Power fist because punching someone results in crippling them to a piece of gore splattered scrap metal.

Scorpions Claw is the same without Specialist Weapon or Unwieldy.

Check mate.

Huskblade for me cos there is nothing cooler than reducing your opponent to a dried out, desicatted corpse.

Second place would be the black mace or axe of blind fury, although asurmen's sword of asur is cool too.

I don't like the burning blade myself, while the rules for it are super nasty, I find it dumb that a mere marine could wield the emperor's sword.

 Tod wrote:
MURDER SWORD!!!!!

Exactly.

It is a sword, but for murder. You can't explain that.

The Shard of Anaris.

In a challenge its amazing.

Then the humble Power Sword, because every officer in my army has one, and it glows bright.

I submit the humble force axe. If you cause a single unsaved wound (+1 str ap2) and pass a psychic test you could in theory insta-gib anything from a meganob to a Riptide or T-Fex (hell, even a wraithknight if your libby has FC). All for a humble 80 Sphess Mareen HQ.

BaalSNAFU wrote:
I submit the humble force axe. If you cause a single unsaved wound (+1 str ap2) and pass a psychic test you could in theory insta-gib anything from a meganob to a T-Fex.

Well you could, if it weren't for that pesky eternal warrior and iron arm

BaalSNAFU wrote:
I submit the humble force axe. If you cause a single unsaved wound (+1 str ap2) and pass a psychic test you could in theory insta-gib anything from a meganob to a T-Fex.

Oh...Nemesis Greatsword!

AP2 Force Weapon that let's you reroll hits, wounds, and armor penetration...at initiative....and let's you retain S10 alongside a Nemesis Doomfist...oh and has Daemonbane.

I'll see your AP 2 and sometimes instant death, and raise you always causes instant death and grants a 4+ invulnerable save.

Definitely, the Black Mace.

Onager gauntlet.

Why? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Onager

 PrinceRaven wrote:
I'll see your AP 2 and sometimes instant death, and raise you always causes instant death and grants a 4+ invulnerable save.

I admit that sounds pretty sweet. What is it and how many points? Also, does it have the high enough Str and enough attacks to wound/ID thebig mean MCs that need ID'ing, or is it a character killer?

BaalSNAFU wrote:

 PrinceRaven wrote:
I'll see your AP 2 and sometimes instant death, and raise you always causes instant death and grants a 4+ invulnerable save.

I admit that sounds pretty sweet. What is it and how many points? Also, does it have the high enough Str and enough attacks to wound/ID thebig mean MCs that need ID'ing, or is it a character killer?

Swarmy's Bonesabres

S6/S10 depending on the Smash...load of attacks (and Prince, Swarmy's sabres are always ID...not just on 6s) and he gets a 4+ in combat due to his prowess.

Isn't he like 200 points? I mean of course he's better, but I'd rather take a lvl 1 Libby with a SS to accompany the force axe for a whopping 90. I know this thread isn't "best bang for your buck" so I'm just sayin.

BaalSNAFU wrote:
Isn't he like 200 points? I mean of course he's better, but I'd rather take a lvl 1 Libby with a SS to accompany the force axe for a whopping 90. I know this thread isn't "best bang for your buck" so I'm just sayin.

We're not talking about the model...take s6/10 out of the equation and you have a badass weapon.

 ductvader wrote:

BaalSNAFU wrote:

 PrinceRaven wrote:
I'll see your AP 2 and sometimes instant death, and raise you always causes instant death and grants a 4+ invulnerable save.

I admit that sounds pretty sweet. What is it and how many points? Also, does it have the high enough Str and enough attacks to wound/ID thebig mean MCs that need ID'ing, or is it a character killer?

Swarmy's Bonesabres

S6/S10 depending on the Smash...load of attacks (and Prince, Swarmy's sabres are always ID...not just on 6s) and he gets a 4+ in combat due to his prowess.

I'm aware, that's why I said "always causes instant death".

 liquidjoshi wrote:
Onager gauntlet.

Why? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Onager

It is fun. S10 AP1 at I out of fething nowhere!

Also, you're hitting them with a donkey.

Huskblade. While yeah, it doesnt give you plusses to strength, AP2 AD strikes at initiative is going to be better than karadras's claw in the majority of situations when dealing with things that can kill you back. Give it to anything mounted on a TW cav or S5+ and he will rip through any model in the game.

So the onager gauntlet literally let's them donkey punch you...

Cool!

 zephoid wrote:
Huskblade. While yeah, it doesnt give you plusses to strength, AP2 AD strikes at initiative is going to be better than karadras's claw in the majority of situations when dealing with things that can kill you back. Give it to anything mounted on a TW cav or S5+ and he will rip through any model in the game.

Dawnblade SU* AP2 Melee, Armourbane that strikes at initive.

*and the only reason for this IMO is that it is on a S5 model.

Sorry, totally speed-read that and mashed the first part of the sentence into your description.

Looking at "best" as damage output, speed, abilities, and cost...I would have to probably say the Necron Gauntlet of Fire. S5 AP4 Flamer that allows you to reroll hits and wounds in close combat...all for the low price of 5pts.

The Warscythe is great and extremely menacing if you're looking at going against other ICs but being able to do rerolls is huge. Between the 2, it turns into a choice of which is more important to you; accuracy via rerolls to hit AND wound or quality of the hits thanks to AP2.


Now if we are including any wargear - I'd have to say Mindshackle Scarabs. I don't care if you have a black mace or the most powerful weapon in the game. I'll still make you hit yourself with it then find the next target.

Changed my choice, Eviscerators are /cool as hell/. Forgot about those bad boys!

 BrotherOfBone wrote:
Changed my choice, Eviscerators are /cool as hell/. Forgot about those bad boys!

Blood Reaver. The manliest weapon out there.
Wielded by Gabriel Seth, it's a S8 chainsword with Rending (striking at I).

And this is technically Seth's rule, but I'd count it as the weapons's special rule:
Instead of normal attacks, you may choose to make a single auto-hit to every enemy your in CC with.

Not the best. But the most awesome-ish-ish-ess.

 soomemafia wrote:

 BrotherOfBone wrote:
Changed my choice, Eviscerators are /cool as hell/. Forgot about those bad boys!

Blood Reaver. The manliest weapon out there.
Wielded by Gabriel Seth, it's a S8 chainsword with Rending (striking at I).

And this is technically Seth's rule, but I'd count it as the weapons's special rule:
Instead of normal attacks, you may choose to make a single auto-hit to every enemy your in CC with.

Not the best. But the most awesome-ish-ish-ess.

He's full of testosterone, but where's his AP at for such a huge chainsword? Never understood that.

The black Mace.

 BrotherOfBone wrote:

 soomemafia wrote:

 BrotherOfBone wrote:
Changed my choice, Eviscerators are /cool as hell/. Forgot about those bad boys!

Blood Reaver. The manliest weapon out there.
Wielded by Gabriel Seth, it's a S8 chainsword with Rending (striking at I).

And this is technically Seth's rule, but I'd count it as the weapons's special rule:
Instead of normal attacks, you may choose to make a single auto-hit to every enemy your in CC with.

Not the best. But the most awesome-ish-ish-ess.

He's full of testosterone, but where's his AP at for such a huge chainsword? Never understood that.

Its basically an eviscerator -1


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 BrotherOfBone wrote:

 soomemafia wrote:

 BrotherOfBone wrote:
Changed my choice, Eviscerators are /cool as hell/. Forgot about those bad boys!

Blood Reaver. The manliest weapon out there.
Wielded by Gabriel Seth, it's a S8 chainsword with Rending (striking at I).

And this is technically Seth's rule, but I'd count it as the weapons's special rule:
Instead of normal attacks, you may choose to make a single auto-hit to every enemy your in CC with.

Not the best. But the most awesome-ish-ish-ess.

He's full of testosterone, but where's his AP at for such a huge chainsword? Never understood that.

Its basically an eviscerator -1

Karendras and his scorpion claw have to be up there. Ton of st8 ap 2 attacks striking at stupidly high initiative.
Warscythe for its points (10) with so much meq around.

Daemonblade...fore sheer funsies.

I am a fan of funsies.

 ductvader wrote:
Daemonblade...fore sheer funsies.

I am a fan of funsies.

My friend has a Khornate Chaos Lord aptly named 'Lord Suicide' because he always manages to kill himself with his daemon weapon

 BrotherOfBone wrote:

 ductvader wrote:
Daemonblade...fore sheer funsies.

I am a fan of funsies.

My friend has a Khornate Chaos Lord aptly named 'Lord Suicide' because he always manages to kill himself with his daemon weapon

Ah...I was talking about Inquisitors.

 ductvader wrote:

 BrotherOfBone wrote:

 ductvader wrote:
Daemonblade...fore sheer funsies.

I am a fan of funsies.

My friend has a Khornate Chaos Lord aptly named 'Lord Suicide' because he always manages to kill himself with his daemon weapon

Ah...I was talking about Inquisitors.

Oh xD I've not been near the Inquisitors Codex, nor have I seen/heard of any of the rules or wargear.. Around here if it's not hardback and available in the FLGS, it may as well not exist.

 BrotherOfBone wrote:

 ductvader wrote:

 BrotherOfBone wrote:

 ductvader wrote:
Daemonblade...fore sheer funsies.

I am a fan of funsies.

My friend has a Khornate Chaos Lord aptly named 'Lord Suicide' because he always manages to kill himself with his daemon weapon

Ah...I was talking about Inquisitors.

Oh xD I've not been near the Inquisitors Codex, nor have I seen/heard of any of the rules or wargear.. Around here if it's not hardback and available in the FLGS, it may as well not exist.

Codex: Grey Knights

(^_^)

 ductvader wrote:

 BrotherOfBone wrote:

 ductvader wrote:

 BrotherOfBone wrote:

 ductvader wrote:
Daemonblade...fore sheer funsies.

I am a fan of funsies.

My friend has a Khornate Chaos Lord aptly named 'Lord Suicide' because he always manages to kill himself with his daemon weapon

Ah...I was talking about Inquisitors.

Oh xD I've not been near the Inquisitors Codex, nor have I seen/heard of any of the rules or wargear.. Around here if it's not hardback and available in the FLGS, it may as well not exist.

Codex: Grey Knights

(^_^)

My friend plays Grey Knights but all he ever does is Draigo Bomb.. God I hate him. He teams a load of Broadsides with a Farsight Bomb and a Draigo Bomb.. Vs my Black Templars. Yay.

Horus Talon.

It's a S8 Lightning Claw, that pisses off Blood Angels, and it's also a combi-bolter!

 BrotherOfBone wrote:

 ductvader wrote:


Codex: Grey Knights

(^_^)

My friend plays Grey Knights but all he ever does is Draigo Bomb.. God I hate him. He teams a load of Broadsides with a Farsight Bomb and a Draigo Bomb.. Vs my Black Templars. Yay.

I believe duct's point was that C:GK is a softback codex. >>

 A GumyBear wrote:

 BrotherOfBone wrote:

 soomemafia wrote:

 BrotherOfBone wrote:
Changed my choice, Eviscerators are /cool as hell/. Forgot about those bad boys!

Blood Reaver. The manliest weapon out there.
Wielded by Gabriel Seth, it's a S8 chainsword with Rending (striking at I).

And this is technically Seth's rule, but I'd count it as the weapons's special rule:
Instead of normal attacks, you may choose to make a single auto-hit to every enemy your in CC with.

Not the best. But the most awesome-ish-ish-ess.

He's full of testosterone, but where's his AP at for such a huge chainsword? Never understood that.

Its basically an eviscerator -1

Well yes, if you ignore the fact that it's unwieldy and striking at I1 doesn't bother you at all.
And isn't eviscerator basically a Chainfist with different name?


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 ZebioLizard2 wrote:
Horus Talon.

It's a S8 Lightning Claw, that pisses off Blood Angels, and it's also a combi-bolter!

Leave. Now.
*pissed off BA player*

 soomemafia wrote:


Well yes, if you ignore the fact that it's unwieldy and striking at I1 doesn't bother you at all.
And isn't eviscerator basically a Chainfist with different name?

The key difference is that you need Terminator Armour or better to wield a Chainfist. Anyone can pick up an Eviscerator and swing it around.

That and the fact most things that can take Eviscerators are I3, so we're striking last anyway against most things that count.

Farisght's dawnblade is pretty awesome in CC.

 BrotherOfBone wrote:

 BrotherHaraldus wrote:
I sorta like Gorechild.

I never got this:
Gorefather
Gorechild
Goremother?

Gorefather and Gorechild were gifts to Angron.

Gorefather was gifted to Logthar of the world bearers, prior to the Heresy. It was lost in Flight of the Einstien,

Upon asention to demonhood Gorechild was gifted to Kharn.

Goremother is currently wielded by an extraordinarily angry SoB somewhere.

 BrotherHaraldus wrote:
Goremother is currently wielded by an extraordinarily angry SoB somewhere.

Goremother was the former name to the more common known ardent blade (that's the one celestine has righr?)

Eldar; Sword of asuryan, ap2 at initiative +1 strengh, and can insta kill eternal warriors.

 Slayer222 wrote:
Eldar; Sword of asuryan, ap2 at initiative +1 strengh, and can insta kill eternal warriors.

Bloody eldar and their cheese with ignoring EW lol

I swear, 90% of the methods to ignore EW and straight up remove models, comes from the Eldar codex lol

Its funny because i guy i knew played abadon all the time, si i inst killed him, he quit right their and then. (he was running triple drakes, and plague army with abbadon as his main guy, walked right up to my Asuryan blade and died before he could even do any damage.)

Warscythe. +2 strength, AP1, Armorbane, and most importantly not unwieldy. On any character in the game it would be an unbelievable weapon and, for the cost, is easily the best melee weapon.

GoliothOnline wrote:

 Slayer222 wrote:
Eldar; Sword of asuryan, ap2 at initiative +1 strengh, and can insta kill eternal warriors.

Bloody eldar and their cheese with ignoring EW lol

I swear, 90% of the methods to ignore EW and straight up remove models, comes from the Eldar codex lol

Grey knights have 12 weapons/wargear/powers that can remove an EW from play...but 8 are daemon specific. There could be more I am forgetting...

Since DCCW's have been said I think my favorite would be that wrecking ball you could put on Kustom Stompas. The rules for it are hilarious and I like the idea of a massive wrecking ball sweeping enemies away.

 Furyou Miko wrote:

 soomemafia wrote:


Well yes, if you ignore the fact that it's unwieldy and striking at I1 doesn't bother you at all.
And isn't eviscerator basically a Chainfist with different name?

The key difference is that you need Terminator Armour or better to wield a Chainfist. Anyone can pick up an Eviscerator and swing it around.

That and the fact most things that can take Eviscerators are I3, so we're striking last anyway against most things that count.

Still hitting before PF's. And that matters.
And note that Blood Reaver is S8. I mean it's not S x2, just S8 so it's better with low S models (and worse with high S models)

 ductvader wrote:

GoliothOnline wrote:

 Slayer222 wrote:
Eldar; Sword of asuryan, ap2 at initiative +1 strengh, and can insta kill eternal warriors.

Bloody eldar and their cheese with ignoring EW lol

I swear, 90% of the methods to ignore EW and straight up remove models, comes from the Eldar codex lol

Grey knights have 12 weapons/wargear/powers that can remove an EW from play...but 8 are daemon specific. There could be more I am forgetting...

And those 8 only work on two models. Be'lakour and the Skulltaker

Best? Hard one. Drach is a very nasty little blade. The axe of blind fury. Personally, I'd have to say the swarm lord's swords still.

Bone sabres from the swarmlord. Otherwise I'm very partial to a thunder hammer

See are you just talking about a weapon? Or a weapon on a specific thing?

See I'd go with the Black Mace on a DP. S6 Fleshbane at AP2 with anywhere between 5 and 11 attacks. If you survive that, you need to pass a toughness test or you simply die (no saves of any kind, not even Eternal Warrior will save you.) Then if you kill anything, all enemy models within 3 inches need to pass another toughness test or they take another wound. (No saves again.)

The Fist of Dorn.

 StarTrotter wrote:

 ductvader wrote:

GoliothOnline wrote:

 Slayer222 wrote:
Eldar; Sword of asuryan, ap2 at initiative +1 strengh, and can insta kill eternal warriors.

Bloody eldar and their cheese with ignoring EW lol

I swear, 90% of the methods to ignore EW and straight up remove models, comes from the Eldar codex lol

Grey knights have 12 weapons/wargear/powers that can remove an EW from play...but 8 are daemon specific. There could be more I am forgetting...

And those 8 only work on two models. Be'lakour and the Skulltaker

The Avatar is a Daemon with EW as well, as is any Daemon with Iron Arm.

I like all the melee weapons!!!! Mwuhahahaha!!!!

As long as I can survive long enough to swing them...