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Post by: Darkjim
Hi all. I've fallen in love with Infinity over the past few months, have now read most of the fluff, some of the rules, watched a few dozen batreps and, more importantly, finished my first models. I love the models (obviously), the terrain, the rules, the enthusiastic community, and the fact CB are all about the models and the game, and let the bottom line take care of itself. Or seem so to me anyway.
Decided to start with Yu Jing -
Hope you like them, just the Starter and Support box, They are a considerable step up from anything I've painted previously, clearly lots of areas to improve with my next batch though. I've not really done faces before, I think they went ok for a first go, one of the Zhanshi looks like he's had a nasty industrial accident despite about 4 repaints (one of which looked ok but the eyes were pretty much on the eyebrows so he looked like the mad stabby robot from Futurama), but the rest are a bit better. They are in general very overpainted, could probably knock off about 3 coats on average if I did them again. Hoping to add OSL, NMM, freehand, some imagination and all that clever stuff down the line. 5 more Yu Jing then PanO to follow.
Next target is getting playing, I've printed the Quick Start rules and built a table for me and my acolyte-daughter to start gaming on -
The terrain will have to be mainly books and tins to begin with, but one of my other targets is airbrushing so MDF terrain seems ideal to learn on. Thanks to all on here for all the stuff I've already read, and Element Games for all the help, if anyone from NWGC is reading and would like to annihilate an averagely painted, appallingly led YJ force in the near future, I hope to join up
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Post by: bantha_beast
Hello there! That looks like you're to a pretty good start. Its always nice to play with/ against a fully painted list instead of a bunch of undercoated minis. And is that MAS tower building? The airbrush will definitely help painting them. Think you might need a bit more terrain on the board though!
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Post by: Darkjim
Yes MAS, I've got some more of their stuff to build, walkways and hab buildings. I really like the MDF look, I know it isn't to everyones taste but I love the consistent look it all has, and the really straight lines. THE MAS scenery Beasts of War use was a significant reason convincing me to try Infinity.
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Post by: bantha_beast
Darkjim wrote:Yes MAS, I've got some more of their stuff to build, walkways and hab buildings. I really like the MDF look, I know it isn't to everyones taste but I love the consistent look it all has, and the really straight lines. THE MAS scenery Beasts of War use was a significant reason convincing me to try Infinity.
Of all the MDF terrain that has come out since i still think MAS is my favourite. The basic apartment is good value and very flexible from a gaming perspective. And with the other kits like the L shape and tower buildings you can get a lot of variety when you combine them with the aprtment. And they look cool too!
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Post by: soulcow
Wow, I really like the colours on the zhanshi, and the way the visors pop out!
I also really like your bases, and the occasional trash on the streets you added
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Post by: Alpharius
bantha_beast wrote: Darkjim wrote:Yes MAS, I've got some more of their stuff to build, walkways and hab buildings. I really like the MDF look, I know it isn't to everyones taste but I love the consistent look it all has, and the really straight lines. THE MAS scenery Beasts of War use was a significant reason convincing me to try Infinity.
Of all the MDF terrain that has come out since i still think MAS is my favourite. The basic apartment is good value and very flexible from a gaming perspective. And with the other kits like the L shape and tower buildings you can get a lot of variety when you combine them with the aprtment. And they look cool too!
MAS' Infinity stuff is nice, but it can be a bit of a pain to put together at times.
It certainly feels solid when together.
For my money, Sarissa Precision and Shark Mounted Lasers are making the best stuff right now though...
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Post by: Darkjim
Thanks, I am slowly checking out all the terrain manufacturers I can find, lots of great stuff.
Soulcow, thanks very much, however the street rubbish is pre-molded on the bases, nothing to do with me
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Post by: -Loki-
The good thing about the terrain out there for infinity is that most of it fits together well on the table. This gives you a lot of good mix n match choices. As long as you give them a common colour theme, your table will blend fine.
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Post by: Talamare
There is also the concept order thru chaos
Where if you don't worry about how your buildings work and look together, it will likely look fine
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Post by: Darkjim
The common colour theme will be burnt brown until I buy and learn to use to an airbrush
Infact I've constructed the MAS walkways this morning, will be taking them apart to sand properly before gluing and painting but even just clipped together they look great. Thanks for all the advice
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Post by: Red Harvest
Keepin' the gray away? Good Idea. Learning to use an airbrush is definitely an eye opening experience. Good luck with that.
Those Yu jing look nice. You'll have to add the Yu Jing points to you sig now.
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Post by: Darkjim
Thanks, and done
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Post by: Alpharius
Talamare wrote:There is also the concept order thru chaos
Where if you don't worry about how your buildings work and look together, it will likely look fine
Agreed!
Not only is it my preferred look, but, well, I've got a bunch of different manufacturer's buildings anyway, so it all works out!
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Post by: Darkjim
Great, that's precisely what I've got in mind, too many different manufacturers to limit a table to just one. Will be a lot of MAS stuff though I think.
In other new player news, I have submitted some unpacks to Penemue on the official forums, and having read on the Wiki that the Crane and Pheasant I'm going to start painting shortly are a bit overpointed, and so one of the few units in the game that might be considered relatively weak, I'm now even more proud of them, I'll make them work, eventually
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Post by: Red Harvest
They are overpointed, but you may still enjoy playing them. CC is difficult to work in Infinity, but given the nastiness of monofilament CCWs, these guys are rather order efficient compared to many other cc types.
And X visor + spitfire on a 2 wound model will give everybody fits.
Don't forget to post pictures when they are painted.
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Post by: Chemical Cutthroat
Those are some very good looking models. I like the hard lines in the creases, it gives it a nice pop that I love to see.
Looking forward to seeing more of your work!
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Post by: Darkjim
Thank you very much
Have built the next 5. I have a Hsien on which I intend to paint the armour roughly the same yellow as my Shang Ji, anyone know if there's a fluffy reason I shouldn't?
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Post by: Chemical Cutthroat
There is never a fluffy reason -not- to do something. Go crazy with ze colors.
Though you may want to ignore me, I am the guy who refuses to ever follow conventional paint schemes.
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Post by: Pacific
I'm sure I have seen these minis before (did you start a blog elsewhere?), but I will say again in any case absolutely fantastic job with them. Lovely combination of colours , the support person in particular looks fantastic.
Excellent avatar as well by the way!
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Post by: Darkjim
Thank you dude
I put up a new player thread on the Infinity site too. Though the picture hosting there preserves the full size image, with alarming closeups of ropey brushwork. Even more so than here
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Post by: Cerrik
You can also hit up the local hardware store to pick up terrain on the cheap. To tide you over till you can pick up your met terrain.
Your painting job is superior to mine and I feel my Yu Jing have been the best I've done to date, across 6 40k armies. Bravo to you!
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Post by: Darkjim
Thanks very much
Updates on the next batch of YJ and their PanO foes -
Some work to do yet  Can't decide on the armour for the Pheasant (headless) and Crane, thinking maybe a deep red or green, or one of each.
Quick question, when I was first looking at Infinity, seem to remember seeing a MDF terrain manufacturer that did little MDF and acrylic bar / shop / advertising signs, that would protrude perpendicular to the building, can't seem to find them anywhere now, sound familiar to anyone? Thanks in advance.
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Post by: soulcow
Plastcraft games shared this quick tutorial aswell:
http://miniaturasywargames.com/blog/2014/03/31/taller-personalizando-edificios-para-infinity/
But ofcourse it's not holo sign and probably not what you are looking for.
I really like your YuJing  I love the Pheasant colours as they are :p Light grey armour and coloured accents, but that's just taste ^^ If you had to pick between red or green I'd say green armour, but keepnig a grey or other contrasting colour for the breastplate or sth :p Anyway it's up to you to decide ^^
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Post by: Darkjim
Thanks both, excellent, it was those customeeple ones.
Got to have a week off painting so will think about the armour, thanks for the advice
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Post by: Darkjim
Hi again all, I have added 5 more Yu Jing -
But even better, I'm off to NWGC tomorrow for a game
Spent a happy few hours over the weekend looking through all the terrain sellers and pricing up all the scenery, tokens, templates and other bits and bobs I'd like to buy. Just need to whittle down that list by about 93% to what I can actually afford now. However I have just bought my first airbrush, and will be practicing on some MAS MDF shortly.
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Post by: Darkjim
Slightly better lit shot -
I'll shut up now
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Post by: Chemical Cutthroat
I really like how the muted oranges and greys came out. Are they dipped or washed or lined to get that really dramatic shading on the yellows?
They look good, and I really like how your Crane came out... I'm still terrified to paint mine.
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Post by: soulcow
Wow, I really dig the scheme on the tigers and the pheasant & crane. I like how you went for slightly different colour accents on your troops (xept the hsien and shang ji ofc :p), such as the visor on the doctor, the white on both eng and doctor, but even the domaru and yaozao fit in really. ^^
Did you plan on painting the deep red you had in mind on your wip picutres the orange of your zanshi all along? It's not a critique or anything ^^ But did you change your mind or is the red the base colour for your orange?
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Post by: Darkjim
Ta very
Brown is
GW Mournfang Brown
2 or 3 washes Badab Black / Agrax mix
Vall Orange-Brown layer
further washes and layers until looks about right
Yellow is the same, but Averland Sunset for the base, Yriel Yellow for the layer.
I tried highlighting the armour on the Crane, but edge highlighting looked messy due to my inability to edge neatly at that resolution, and blending the plates up looked ok on the big areas like the thigh / head but again messy elsewhere, so, flat Dawnstone it is
Ah I see what you mean soulcow, as above it's Mournfang Brown with crappy lighting
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Post by: soulcow
Oh you're calling the orange accents browns :p well that's opninion I think ^^ I really tought the wip pictures showed a base colour for the deep red you were thinking to apply, I googled mournfang brown and I see it's indeed that colour, however it contains a lot of red
Anyway, It is a very solid colour, your orange/brown one ^^
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Post by: Darkjim
Thanks, checked out your blog btw, really nice Shang-Ji, the chainmail is great, and you've picked out knuckles and things, excellent
Here's the list, with one YaoZao dropped and the Pheasant proxied to a Spitfire (which is, I think, better, and I can afford the SWC with the Shang-Ji as Lt)
YU JING
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GROUP 1    6  0  0
HSIEN HMG / Pistol, AP CCW. (2 | 61)
SHÀNG JÍ Lieutenant Combi Rifle + Light Flamethrower / Pistol, Shock CCW. ( 42)
DOMARU Boarding Shotgun, E/M Grenades / Pistol, AP CCW. ( 36)
TIGER SOLDIER Combi Rifle + Light Flamethrower / Pistol, Knife. ( 27)
ZHANSHI Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. ( 11)
Zhanshi,ĪSHĒNG Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. ( 15)
YÁOZĂO Electric Pulse. ( 3)
GROUP 2    7  0  0
IMPERIAL AGENT (X Visor) MULTI Sniper Rifle / Pistol, Monofilament CCW. (1.5 | 48)
IMPERIAL AGENT Spitfire / Pistol, Monofilament CCW. (2 | 60)
CELESTIAL GUARD Hacker (Hacking Device) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 25)
TIGER SOLDIER HMG / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 35)
ZHANSHI Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. ( 11)
ZHANSHI Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. ( 11)
MECA-Engineer Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. ( 15)
7.5 SWC | 400 Points
Open with Army 4
Won't be played like that of course, have come up with the following for a 200 pt game
YU JING
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GROUP 1    8  0  0
SHÀNG JÍ Lieutenant Combi Rifle + Light Flamethrower / Pistol, Shock CCW. ( 42)
CELESTIAL GUARD Hacker (Hacking Device) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 25)
DOMARU Boarding Shotgun, E/M Grenades / Pistol, AP CCW. ( 36)
ZHANSHI Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. ( 11)
ZHANSHI Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. ( 11)
ZHANSHI Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. ( 11)
Zhanshi,ĪSHĒNG Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. ( 15)
IMPERIAL AGENT (X Visor) MULTI Sniper Rifle / Pistol, Monofilament CCW. (1.5 | 48)
2 SWC | 199 Points
Open with Army 4
or
YU JING
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GROUP 1    8  0  0
SHÀNG JÍ Combi Rifle + Light Flamethrower / Pistol, Shock CCW. ( 42)
DOMARU Boarding Shotgun, E/M Grenades / Pistol, AP CCW. ( 36)
ZHANSHI Lieutenant Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 11)
ZHANSHI Hacker (Hacking Device) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 23)
ZHANSHI Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. ( 11)
Zhanshi,ĪSHĒNG Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. ( 15)
TIGER SOLDIER HMG / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 35)
TIGER SOLDIER Combi Rifle + Light Flamethrower / Pistol, Knife. ( 27)
3 SWC | 200 Points
Open with Army 4
Both have a bit of give in SWC to move the Lt / Hacker around. Any tactical thoughts gratefully recd, I have at this stage no plan whatsoever
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Post by: Chemical Cutthroat
I'm always a big fan of AD infantry with an HMG. I think I like the second list better.
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Post by: Darkjim
Thanks I'll go with that then. I've only just noticed the Combi Tiger can be Lt / Hack too, which means anywhere but the Domaru, Doc or HMG Tiger. Though I presume starting with the Lt off the board is a bad idea, a Hacker ADing in could be cool.
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Post by: Chemical Cutthroat
Yeah, you don't want to have your PT dropping in, since it'll force you to be in Loss of Lieutenant until he gets there. But yes, an AD Hacker is pretty neat if you can drop him somewhere in cover and immobilize someone, or hack a TAG and go rampagin'.
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Post by: soulcow
I've played my first game with the yujing starter set with domaru exchanged for 2 tiger soldiers. That was just to start learning the game because it's an easy list, and I'd like to continue collecting haqqislam, but I didn't have an easy choice for a starter list.
so my starter list was something like
shang ji
3 zhanshi
celestial guard lt
2 tiger soldier, one with HMG
we just played something where you had to get as many figures in deeper zones of the board, don't really know what it was called. I lost two times because I didn't use the shang ji offensively at all, and held back on a tiger soldier.
So on those two units I'd say use them, but I suppose you're not new to the game and will dare to use them? :p I just didn't dare to risk the units, but that's what they're made for isn't it? (+ I'm just learning wargaming in general through my first games of Infinity)
I haven't used the domaru, but when I was reading about the troop profiles it seemed they need enough cover (terrain/smoke) to get to their targets. You can also change him for celestial guard with kuang shi and sth else to get hold of smoke cover which could be useful?
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Post by: Chemical Cutthroat
Yeah, the CG with the Kuang Shi Control Device gets a smoke launcher, presumably to provide the maniac explosive people with cover while they charge through the battlefield. But you can also take her just to get the smoke launcher and support troops that way.
A common trick for tech savvy players is to take a model with a MultiSpectralVisor Lvl2, so they can see through smoke, and pop smoke, allowing them to shoot people who can't ARO back.
You NEED to be aggressive with Tiger Soldiers. They are at their best when they're on the offensive and kicking ass. You just need to play smart, and stick to cover. But don't be afraid to flank hard and use that HMG.
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Post by: Darkjim
Oh I did that  First ever game tonight, vs Combined, tabled in 4 turns by Chains, Spits and some nasty bugger that eats corpses. My HMG Tiger dropped beautifully onto a roof, missed with his first 4 shot volley and was AROd to death on the second. The other Tiger missed the roof and scattered into LOS of pretty much every Combined on the table.
One thing, I'm sure we got right - in every batrep I've seen online, they forget about guts rolls until halfway through, and so did we  Thanks very much to Matthew at NWGC for the game
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Post by: Chemical Cutthroat
Well on the bright side, most games only last 4 turns!
Sometimes you have some bad rolls and bad luck. I tend to lose about 80% of my games, but I usually do something that is 'cool' rather than 'intelligent' and pay the price.
I forget what the Corpse Eater model is, I know it is a Shasvasti and it can get reeeeally scary once he gets 'fed'.
Hope you had fun!
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Post by: Darkjim
It was great. Getting tabled for the first dozen games is fine, I want a game with some depth, so if I come up against a good player I should get annihilated until I learn a lot more.
In retrospect, my deployment was lame, far too passive, I wasted orders, the Tiger drop was a dice disaster so he held the middle of the board with the mine layer and some stuff I don't think I ever discovered, then his heavies romped up the flanks and destroyed me. Was marvellous
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Post by: Pacific
Glad you enjoyed the first game! You definitely need to have a tough jaw for your first few games of Infinity, depending on how ruthless the experienced player you are up against is.
Tiger Soldiers are ace, an HMG coming down behind the other force can be enough to win the game if you play it right and they're not prepared. But beware being 'iced' by an enemy hacker if you are coming in on AD3 - a lot of people use AD2 for that reason (or at least mix it up).
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Post by: Darkjim
You mentioned elsewhere models staring at walls - here's my Doc playing online poker -
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Post by: Chemical Cutthroat
"Damnit Jim, I'm a crate inspector not a doctor!"
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He wasn't even very good at that, just inspected the one before being gunned down.
I'm going to have to call him Bones from now on
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Post by: Chemical Cutthroat
Nah call him 'Gutou'.
Which is just Bones in Chinese.
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Post by: Darkjim
Quick update to any interested - still working on my PanO, they haven't really turned out as intended yet, which was a sort of manga / Vexille aesthetic, which is proving a bit beyond my skills -
Lots still to do, will try highlighting the blue to lessen the contrast to the white a bit.
Also got a board of sorts together -
Not even slightly intended to be played on yet, obviously need many more buildings, less roads, and hopefully some SML Neo Tokyo stuff as and when that appears, and long term I would like to mix in more traditional Oriental buildings, and trees. At this stage I just wanted to try various manufacturers and have enough to practice airbrushing on. Really impressed with pretty much all of it so far, the MAS MDF is a very tight fit and occasionally needs a thin layer removing to fit, but I think looks great when built, the rest (Sarissa, Warmill, CNC, Customeeple so far) is generally great. My kids are impressed anyway
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Post by: -Loki-
Is that the customeeple gaming mat?
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Post by: soulcow
Dude your pano look great :O Maybe indeed a highlight would help, but damn that's crisp!
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Post by: Red Harvest
Liking the darker blue in the Pan-O. Alot. Very distinctive. I think Soulcow may be onto something about a little extra highlighting though. Keep painting and your skills will get where you want the, to be.
Also cool gaming mat. It is from...?
The buildings are enough for small point games now, if you fill in the board with some scatter, cars, planter and plants, dumpsters, etc.
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Post by: Darkjim
Thanks all - it is the Customeeple mat, the new cheaper one called 'outdoor banner'. It's good, but the sections aren't quite square (only a mm or so off), so I need to do a neat cutting job, which is easily doable. Long term I will probably glue them to MDF. Works out about £50 for the 2 sets I bought, which gives a very flexible 8x4 and infinite variety for 6x4 and 4x4. In an ideal world I would probably like a board from SML, but I think this is a great mat for my current purposes. If funds allow I expect the original thicker version fits better (and has the depth so the sheets sit better).
Also like to say Customeeple customer support is excellent, I had a few questions and they were really helpful.
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Post by: -Loki-
How durable does the mat feel?
I've been thinking of getting the cheaper outdoor banner material as well. Does it have problems sliding around the table if you don't permanently stick them down?
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Post by: Darkjim
No, no sliding sitting on MDF board, think it would only be an issue on a really smooth table top, if then.
Durability I imagine is good, it is a strong material that looks difficulty to tear, if relatively well looked after it looks like it will last forever.
I was surprised it came in a tube, given they are all 1 foot square, flat-packed would seem to make more sense, so the sheets were curled up - a week neatly stacked on a sheet of MDF, under another sheet of MDF and with Imperial Armour 1-7 on top has pretty much taken care of that.
So the only real issue is the slight lack of squareness, though as I said above the thicker more expensive version probably sit next to each other better given their increased depth.
All in all, I think they'll do a great job for a couple of years until I can upgrade to an MDF board, I would only say avoid if their lack of depth leading to the odd minimal gap or overlap is a problem, which hopefully some neat and accurate cutting will deal with, though will be a week or two until I get round to it.
Thanks all for the nice comments re the PanO, I've got a few good ideas for some improvements now.
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Post by: Chemical Cutthroat
Damn... daaaaaamn.
Those PanO look sharp man.
Nice contrast, good colors. I think you're awfully close to what you're aiming for. It looks a bit busier on the Cutter, maybe him and the bots could benefit from a bit of the red that the Bolts are rocking? Maybe like a designation stripe that crosses a panel or two?
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Post by: monders
I've really enjoyed catching up on this thread, as I am looking at taking the plunge by picking up two starter factions this week.
I was worried that there wouldn't be many people playing near me, but it seems there's a scene at the NWGC so that's right up my street (almost literally).
I'll swing by the NWGC for my purchases and hopefully get some more info from seasoned vets. Might even book a game in!
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Post by: Darkjim
First two games are free (I'm sure I read somewhere), I've yet to take my second as midweek is generally when games are played and precisely when I can't usually get there, but yes get down there, may of the guys at Element Games (which shares the building with NWGC) are big Infinity fans.
Thanks C_C, yes it's the 'busy' thing that has me concerned, the Cutter and the Swiss/Aquila particularly, though they aren't very clear on the pics. Thanks for the markings suggestions, I hopefully have some time this weekend so will see what progress I can make.
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Post by: Pacific
Absolutely fantastic! I love the bright and contrasting colour scheme.
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Post by: Chemical Cutthroat
Yeah... damn man. Those look solid. Excellent scheme and implemented very well.
Played any games with them yet chief?
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Thanks  Not played with Pan O yet, hoping to get some games soon. Today I've been learning to handle sealant for the MDF, and printing a Dave Graffam Cargo Pod, which I'm printing on paper and sticking to some card to see what they look like. Automatically Appended Next Post: A cardboard crate -
Pretty sturdy -
For a rough cost of about 25p each (much of which is printer ink, for my 'search by price - lowest first' inkjet) I think a dozen of those will do very nicely to fill up the board. Going to try painting/felt-tipping the white edges.
Also made some barricades from spare bits from the MAS Guard Tower -
Using them like this means the tower doesn't have the roof parts to be split into 2 single story buildings, but that's ok for me, I have other low buildings.
Progress
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Post by: monders
Darkjim wrote:First two games are free (I'm sure I read somewhere), I've yet to take my second as midweek is generally when games are played and precisely when I can't usually get there, but yes get down there, may of the guys at Element Games (which shares the building with NWGC) are big Infinity fans.
Got my first demo game booked in for next Wednesday at NWGC with a nice chap called Rosspot83 from the Infinity Forums
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Post by: Chemical Cutthroat
Damn, those are sturdy! Cutter's ain't light.
Looks like a good way to fill up on terrain!
...I gotta say, I saw that Bourak table that they used on Beasts of War... and I'm really wishing I had went with the desert theme for my stuff.
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Post by: MWHistorian
Wow. Okay, your figures look better than mine. Nice job!
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Post by: Alpharius
Chemical Cutthroat wrote:Damn, those are sturdy! Cutter's ain't light.
Looks like a good way to fill up on terrain!
...I gotta say, I saw that Bourak table that they used on Beasts of War... and I'm really wishing I had went with the desert theme for my stuff.
Just do another set of terrain then, right?
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Post by: Chemical Cutthroat
Alpharius wrote: Chemical Cutthroat wrote:Damn, those are sturdy! Cutter's ain't light.
Looks like a good way to fill up on terrain!
...I gotta say, I saw that Bourak table that they used on Beasts of War... and I'm really wishing I had went with the desert theme for my stuff.
Just do another set of terrain then, right? 
I mean with the bases on my models. They're all based in urban/snow/SVARLAHEIMA REPRESENT!
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Post by: Alpharius
How to base your models is always a tough decision.
I can understand why the 'clear base' movement is gaining a lot of followers...
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Post by: -Loki-
I'm really not a fan of clear bases. To me, a base finishes a miniature. A clear base just doesn't have the same impact. If your bases don't match the terrain, who cares?
My Haqqislam see all of their table time on urban boards, but they're based on desert bases. You don't even notice when you start playing.
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Post by: GrimDork
Definitely a fan of clear bases here  I totally understand what you are saying, Loki, and I probably felt that way for a good while. But ever since I saw some clear acrylic bases in the battlesystems terrain kickstarter intro vid.... I've been stuck on them. They give my little army folk a definite "wherever you go, there you are" vibe, afaic.
Also, ridiculously nice models OP
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Post by: carlos13th
Good stuff so far, cant wait to see more.
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Thanks for the kind words  Now have another long list or improvements and tidying for the YJ and PanO (including big general intimidating things like ' OSL' and 'transfers'). Nevertheless, 28 models bought and 28 models more-or-less painted is pretty satisfying. Wonky group shot -
400 points of Haqq up next, definitely the Starter and Kum bikers, no idea beyond that. Then 400 pts Aleph, then 400 pts Ariadna, then lots and lots and lots of Nomads. Possibly all of them. Terrain before all that though.
Regards bases, I think I'm going to do the Haqq on the same urban bases, as the fluff I am slowly fleshing out for my Paradiso YJ frontier town has the bikers and their support scouting the area as a possible rally and counterattack point if Haqq terrain is completely overrun by the CA. Would that look too weird?
Good luck in your game Monders
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Post by: Red Harvest
Not at all. The only real thing that you need with basing is uniformity within the army, so they look like a coherent force. Other than that, urban desert, clear acrylic... whatever you like best.
And I am definitely using a darker blue on my ASA minis when I get around to painting them. It works so well on your Pan-O
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Post by: Shae-Konnit
I really ought to get my Pan Oc sorted out
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Post by: monders
Cheers!
A quick recap: I got wiped out! Ross had another new guy play against me and marshalled from the side lines. This wasn't a softly softly take it easy game, we were full on! Camo, smoke grenades, brutal close combat with some stupid werewolf things...
I admit to losing who was supposed to be who, and who had what, but getting the basics of the game down was the main objective. I did far more damage with AROs than I did on my turn, and likewise for the other guy.
My dice rolls were, as usual, atrocious.
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Post by: Darkjim
Pretty much what happened to me
Some shots of my table, mark II - same buildings but condensed to 4x4, and with added crates, trees, barricades and other scatter. I still haven't read any build a good table stuff, so it probably still doesn't play great but looks soooo cool, to me anyway, hopefully will look much better when painted up. I particularly love the walls from CNC, remind me of dropping the perfect grenade through a window in Laser Squad Nemesis.
Seen here are the local YJ forces engaging in tactical training with their PanO (uneasy) allies, in preparation for a soon expected CA attack.
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Post by: GrimDork
Table looks sick  Very Infinity! As long as you don't have too too much empty space creating no-mans lands, and uneven distribution of high buildings creating really wide sniper kill zones... you're probably doing fine.
Looks like it provides some good atmospheric shots to boot
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Post by: Chemical Cutthroat
Looks reeeeally sharp. What did you use for the 'base' of the board? Just a gaming mat of some kind?
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Post by: Darkjim
Thanks  Its the tile set from Customeeple, called 'outdoor banner', and is not entirely recommended to be honest, as the squares aren't square (sides range from 295mm to 300m, so are difficult to fit properly together), but it does the job.
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Post by: Dakkamite
Great paintjobs, and as much as I love the PanO (especially once brown was added), I've got to applaud the Yellow YuJing heavies in particular.
That is not an easy colour to work with!
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Post by: Darkjim
Thanks very much  My painstaking lots of very, very thin coats approach, which I use instead of any raw painting talent, means yellow is no more difficult than any other colour, they all take ages
400 pts of Haqq incoming once CB stop releasing new stuff long enough for me to decide on what to get.
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Post by: Pacific
Awesome looking board Darkjim, looks like you've got the setup done well - now just to get the spray out for those buildings!
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Post by: -Loki-
Just a heads up Darkjim, if you're after an alternative mat. MAS previewed this on the official boards.
It's 4'x4', and sensibly has a diagonal line down the middle which really kills length of the board fire lanes. It's obvious that they're making it to fit their buildings (as expected) due to the shapes of the building footprints (the L shape is a dead giveaway) but it would work for any buildings. You then wouldn't have to bugger about with the tiles, and the diagonoal line means simply turning the mat will create a different feel each game.
Personally though I'm waiting to see if they do a 6'x4', which they've told me they will consider based on the sales of this mat.
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Post by: Darkjim
That is nice, thanks very much. iirc the AW Kickstarters mentioned a board too, might be great.
It has occurred to me, having bought 2 of the packs so I could do 8' x 4', I could cut some of the sheets diagonally and lay the triangles at the edges, using the rest to make a 45 degree board. Might still be able to do 6' x 4', I will investigate at some point.
The Customeeple mats really aren't bad for the cost, though I'm glad I went for the cheaper version if the inaccurate cutting issues apply to the more expensive ones too. I just expected slightly higher attention to detail. If I came into any money it would be the boards from Shark Mounted Lasers, they would be the perfect solution with a full wallet.
@ Pacific - I am, I am, the black building in the pics has been sanded, sealed, sanded again and spraycan primed. The airbrush is all set up, dry tested, ready to roll, I just need to find the nerve to actually start squirting paint through it
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Post by: Red Harvest
I must admit, the table does look very nice. Painting things well will improve it dramatically, but don't rush things. Part of the fun of Infinity is putting together cool tables. Take your time and enjoy the process.
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Post by: Darkjim
Well I didn't explode, poison, burn, asphyxiate or blind myself, so it went pretty well
Not actually as bright white as it appears here, crappy camera phone, hopefully the white round the windows and doors shows the contrast a bit - utterly generic and pretty much a straight rip of the picture on the packet, nonetheless I think once ladders and sign etc are added, shouldn't be too ropey for a first go. Will do my other 2 MAS buildings like this so they match and to get some practice in, then branch out a bit in terms of colour. Thanks for looking
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Post by: Chemical Cutthroat
I think it looks great! I particularly like the gradiant on the window-slat-thingies. All in all a great addition to your table.
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Post by: GrimDork
That looks nice, good work. Do the windows have some kind of texture or is that freehand? It looks like it's meant to be some kind of forcefield/tech screen of some kind?
Neat building, and when you're doing a whole board, being a little sloppy or generic is somewhat acceptable. Or at least I have to keep telling myself that
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Post by: Darkjim
Thanks chaps
The windows are just with a brush, dark / mid / light grey with a blue wash over. Really easy / satisfying to paint because the etch lines as so easy to follow, Meant to be metal shutters, or force fields is good too  , I think I can do better with a bit more attention on them next time.
I want to maybe try a brown wash to look like water stains, and / or that chipped metal effect to give a worn look round the edges, not sure if I can pull either off well, going to get the rest of my MAS stuff to this level first whilst I have a ponder.
Also, a question for any Haqq experts reading - re Ghulam, the upcoming box is special weaps I understand (cool), are the Ghulam in the starter relatively new and so likely to look ok with the new ones, or are the starter Ghulam old and expected to be updated to match the ones arriving this month? Those in the starter look great to me, was just about to order the starter and the HMG guy (amongst other Haqq) when I saw about the new arrivals.
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Post by: Chemical Cutthroat
Darkjim wrote:Thanks chaps
The windows are just with a brush, dark / mid / light grey with a blue wash over. Really easy / satisfying to paint because the etch lines as so easy to follow, Meant to be metal shutters, or force fields is good too  , I think I can do better with a bit more attention on them next time.
I want to maybe try a brown wash to look like water stains, and / or that chipped metal effect to give a worn look round the edges, not sure if I can pull either off well, going to get the rest of my MAS stuff to this level first whilst I have a ponder.
Also, a question for any Haqq experts reading - re Ghulam, the upcoming box is special weaps I understand (cool), are the Ghulam in the starter relatively new and so likely to look ok with the new ones, or are the starter Ghulam old and expected to be updated to match the ones arriving this month? Those in the starter look great to me, was just about to order the starter and the HMG guy (amongst other Haqq) when I saw about the new arrivals.
We're still in the dark over if they're going to be new sculpts or just a reboxing of the old ones. I'm crossing my fingers for entirely new sculpts.
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Post by: Red Harvest
New sculpts. There is no way they are going to box the old stuff. They've updated the basic infantry (in the starter) they've updated the doctor. This month we'll see the updated SWC stuff. HMG for sure. I'm hoping missile launcher too. So wait for that.
Building looks fine. Not everything needs to look run down.
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Post by: Alpharius
VERY nice looking!
What 'prep work' did you do to the MDF before painting, if any?
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Post by: Darkjim
Thanks for the answers, I will wait, and assume 4 Ghulam with big guns to add to the starter, bikers, Saladin, and some others I have yet to decide on.
Red Harvest - if someone of your terrain talents is happy with it then so am I, thanks
Thanks Alpharius, I sanded it lightly, sealed it with Shellac sealer as per Antenoctis recommendation, sanded again, then primed with GW black spray because I have a can knocking around and it always does a great job assuming the right temp/humidity etc. Once the can is dead I'll just undercoat black with the airbrush, or use proper poly primer, but I'm not sure I actually need to given I'm sealing it anyway. I don't think I need to do the pre seal sanding either, it goes on great even on the bits I didn't sand.
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Production line -
Trying an advanced fading effect here  -
Any suggestions for improvements gratefully recd, different colours will be attempted on the batch after this
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Post by: GrimDork
Fantastic! It screams infinity, looking good.
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Post by: chromedog
Nice work.
A good start. Now finish the other 3/4 of the table.
(looks like it's on a deadzone mat? Those are 1/4 the size of an infinity table).
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Post by: GrimDork
That looks like something else, deadzone mat has more obvious blood splatter and drains, with the occasional dark grey tile, some of those are split a little differently than DZ's strict grid. Rectangles, that's what it is, dz mat is all squares, that has some rectangles. It looks nice though, a little cleaner and more infinity friendly.
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Post by: Chemical Cutthroat
I absolutely love the giant Yu Jing logo for the Helipad. Looks great so far.
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Post by: Alpharius
WOW!
Very nice looking indeed!
I'm coming over to your place for a game of Infinity!
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Post by: Darkjim
You'd be very welcome
It is 3 foot x 3 foot of Customeeple mat, now carefully recut so the squares fit together better, but yes, a lot more scenery to paint yet, the above isn't intended to game on, just to show off the bits I've painted.
Coming next - in the continuing absence of new Ghulam and 55mm MAS bases, my Haqq remain on hold, so I got these these guys just because I think they look cool -
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Post by: Pacific
The terrain looks fantastic DarkJim.
Good to see Gogo Marlene coming up in the painting queue, found that mini a lot of fun to paint (and of course, her small robot companion, whatever the hell that thing is meant to be!)
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I assume it is some sort of Infinity 'Look Out Sir' thing for her, haven't read her rules, don't know what the Commissioner is for either, they just look great
Grand plan is these 5 take me to 33 Infiniminis, so a 17 strong Haqq force too should be 50 painted models by xmas, allowing time to finish the rest of the scenery as well. Would be a good first year. Can't see my Tyranids getting any reinforcements any time soon.
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Post by: chromedog
GoGo Marlene is just a journalist model.
The bot is her cambot. Nothing more. It probably carries the flash pulse she has. No such thing as a "look out, sir" in this game.
Commissioner model's rules will be released next month when the box comes out. He's a VIP civilian (until then, used the stats for Civvies from HS.
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Post by: SlaveToDorkness
Holy Mackeral! Nice terrain!
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Post by: Pacific
There are not enough  emoticons to do that table justice!
Absolutely stupendous work, I'm sure that will be a joy to play on
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Post by: SlaveToDorkness
Makes me eager to clear out my Grimdark from my hobby space and throw down on some Infinity terrain!
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Post by: Red Harvest
GoGo's little rabbit is a language joke too. If you want to know
Beautiful table. You have every right to be very chuffed about it. (I learned what that meant not so long ago.)
I imagine that some vehicles are in the works for that road. And a little park for a low vis zone is a nice inclusion. A top notch table.
A batrep of the first game on it would not be unwelcomed.
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Post by: GrimDork
Hah! That is awesome  Looks like a join to play on!
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Post by: chromedog
The Garage needs a guy with a shotgun and a chainsaw for a hand standing out the front of it.
With a "good/bad - I'm the guy with the gun" pose.
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Post by: Daba
What I like especially about this is it looks like an area people actually live/work in rather than a game arena.
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Post by: Darkjim
Thanks all, glad you like it  Going to plan some future additions whilst I get back to minis for a bit, but I think the upcoming church and crab crate-mover from Zen Terrain will be featuring, and hopefully the scout tower AW previewed ages ago, as and when they kickstart their KS. Sadly not their anti-grav sports cars which have gone, should have ordered when I had the chance :(
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Post by: MWHistorian
Holy...wow!
I want that terrain. Especially the S-Mart!
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Hey dudes - WIP -
Really struggling with faces, the Commissioner, GoGo and Lucien have all had at least one repaint, and are going to get another. Lucien looked like the chef from the Muppets first time out. Resolving this is urgent, because whatever mild psychotropic CB put in the release agent to induce a buy-more-Infinity trance, it's working on me -
And Icestorm. And 22 models I picked up in the Swap Shop.
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Post by: carlos13th
Those buildings look great.
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Post by: -Loki-
I applaud your choice of Sekban. Can't wait to see you paint them.
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Post by: Darkjim
They weren't even on my list for Haqq originally, but I decided to leave the bikers until the new one arrives, so Odals were top of the list, and if I was getting 4 I had to get the 5th, and she was in the QK starter, so that left room for another 5 model link to give some nice balance to things, so it was KTS or Sekban, and I prefer the look of the Sekban.
So I've got a reasonable Haqq army without the bikers, Lasiqs, Ghluam and Saladin I originally wanted and will certainly get at some point. Well played CB. Again.
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Post by: Chemical Cutthroat
WOOOOOO! More Haqq!
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