Not sure if there is a poll for this already (couldn't see one), but I was wondering how people feel about the new Taurox model for the IG...I mean Astra Militarum. I'm surprised there hasn't been more chat about it, as I think it's quite a "love it or hate it" model.

Personally I'm not a big fan. It looks like a weird steampunk jeep that wouldn't actually be able to drive due to it's stupid tracks.

Also the name....Tau Rox. Is someone having a laugh at GW HQ? That's almost as bad as "A Bad 'Un".

For anyone who hasn't seen it :-

Love it. only getting one but yes love it. Also same price as a chimera here so not bad.

I dont like the fender guns, so conversion will be needed there.

I must admit I do like the lion panel. It's been very well painted by the 'Eavy Metal team in this image.

Yea I like it too. I think its an option though so thats good for those who dont.

Didn't like it when I first saw it, still don't like it.

There's also so many "wtf" moments on this vehicle. The side guns that fire at anyone getting in or out of the vehicle, the missile launcher that would blow the head off anyone who opens the hatch, the exhaust that runs out of the engine bay then back in to the cabin then out again to exhaust stacks. The tank tracks that like most IG tanks have fully enclosed sides. The random double mud guards (there's mud guards on the track itself, then another set above them that doesn't look like it would block anything that the first set didn't). The insufficient suspension system for an off road vehicle.

I'm sure there's more, that's just what comes to mind at the moment.

Would make a nice Ork Battlewagon though.

AllSeeingSkink wrote:
Didn't like it when I first saw it, still don't like it.

Would make a nice Ork Battlewagon though.

Now this I can get on board with!

Fix the tracks and I'd fall in love. If someone makes a proper half-track conversion for this thing I'd love to see it on the field any day.

As it is now...it looks like the Imperials took the plans for one transport and slapped the propulsion from a completely different transport on the bottom. I mean, with how mankind does bussiness in 40k I wouldn't put it past them, but still...It's got two sets of fenders for Emperor's sake!

Oh, just noticed something. This is the WHFB Steam Tank. I knew that driver looked familiar in some way... I'd call it a shout out myself, but then again who knows.

I'm getting one as usual with new tanks.... LOOT THEM! unless it goes for my Spess mahreen army

I like it, but like it has been said many times before, half track or just wheels would look much better.

I like the idea, but the stupid side-guns and tracks just kill it in its by-the-book design. It NEEDS conversion in order to field it without shame.

Possibly the dorkiest looking vehicle in 40k, though it reminds me of some Cybertronian Transformer. Maybe Animated Ratchet.
I'm not starting another army, if this is the only vehicle exclusive to it, that's for sure.

Hate it. It's a bad model in general, and it's a truly awful IG model.

Stats wise, I don't see why I'd ever use this over a Chimera.
I'd have to put wheels on it in order to take it seriously.

And guns on the rear fenders? GW, fire whoever thought that was a good idea.

And why can't I seem to vote?

I'm not crazy about it but I do think with the proper paintjob and limited use of its excessive bling that it looks decent. Nothing compared to the battlewagon though.

I find it interesting. Everyone I play with at my large club doesnt look on these sites etc. They all liked the vehicle when I showed them today. I just messaged a bunch and asked them what they though. They all answered separately too.

Wonder if others have the same experience.

The top half has potential and then you get to those heinous tracks and wonder if any employees were fired for producing that model.

I sure hope so.. but then again this is what happens when companies start money grubbing. The scions or whatever they're called are pretty cool though.

But those tracks... They make me want to cry...

 Swastakowey wrote:
I find it interesting. Everyone I play with at my large club doesnt look on these sites etc. They all liked the vehicle when I showed them today. I just messaged a bunch and asked them what they though. They all answered separately too.

Probably just a local thing. I thought it was awful as soon as I saw the pictures, before reading anyone else's comments. And my (non-40k-playing) girlfriend thought it looked stupid compared to all of my other tanks.

 Peregrine wrote:

 Swastakowey wrote:
I find it interesting. Everyone I play with at my large club doesnt look on these sites etc. They all liked the vehicle when I showed them today. I just messaged a bunch and asked them what they though. They all answered separately too.

Probably just a local thing. I thought it was awful as soon as I saw the pictures, before reading anyone else's comments. And my (non-40k-playing) girlfriend thought it looked stupid compared to all of my other tanks.

Maybe Paraparaumu loves the vehicle then. My Fiancee liked it. Who knows. Yet again, our only NZ tank is the one in my picture so its not like we have high vehicle standards

 Swastakowey wrote:
Yet again, our only NZ tank is the one in my picture so its not like we have high vehicle standards

Yeah, that's probably why, the NZ tank only looks like it could carry 5 or 6 sheep, the Taurox could carry a good 12 or 13.









Ok, I'll stop now

AllSeeingSkink wrote:

 Swastakowey wrote:
Yet again, our only NZ tank is the one in my picture so its not like we have high vehicle standards

Yeah, that's probably why, the NZ tank only looks like it could carry 5 or 6 sheep, the Taurox could carry a good 12 or 13.









Ok, I'll stop now

Dead right, efficiency right there. Im sure the taurox doesnt need a mattress to try stop the crew being cooked. improvements all round.

Still don't like it.

Dislike the steam punk look for 40k b/c seems a bit too low for Imperium tech. Orc looted would seem to be perfect.

Echoing a lot of what has been said so far. I like the top half and a few of the features of it (front grille, the access doors) but those tracks look absolutely ridiculous.

 Peregrine wrote:
Hate it. It's a bad model in general, and it's a truly awful IG model.

This........ I was looking forward to getting some new transports for my guard as well

 Peregrine wrote:
Hate it. It's a bad model in general, and it's a truly awful IG model.

Completely agree. Quite possibly the worst looking IG vehicle to date. Nothing about it says IG. If anything its more fitting in a Imperial Knight army, which is what I think was intended all along.

I think the paint scheme isn't helping at all, and the turret.

I dont really like it. Im not an ig player though. If i ever start ig and want to use the taurox i will use this model from dreamforges Eisenkern Range:

Give it wheels and lower it a little and it would make a great vehicle for the Arbites. But I wouldn't touch it for the Guard - doesn't fit their visual style at all.

It has no redeeming features.

It would feel at home in a Metal Slug game. Meaning no, I don't like the look of it. I think it's the worst-designed (and painted) 40K vehicle currently on sale.

I like it, and as for the tracks I've seen IRL Lard Rovers with tracks like that, so they would work.
I'm not getting one, as I have no plans to start a new army, but I do like the model.

 scottmmmm wrote:

Also the name....Tau Rox. Is someone having a laugh at GW HQ? That's almost as bad as "A Bad 'Un".

Maybe you're joking, but I can't stand it when people spout this sort of thing as a criticism. Taurox is the usual bad latin sort of name 40k has already featured (taurus=a bull) and Abaddon is a demon from the old testament. They're not actually puns.

 scottmmmm wrote:
That's almost as bad as "A Bad 'Un".

Abaddon is named after a fallen angel, it isn't a pun

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abaddon

Taurox is derived from the latin word for bull. Why would an Imperial vehicle be praising Tau? Your interpretation doesn't make sense.

They normally reserve terrible puns for Lizardmen

See: Tiktak'to

I think it's ok.
I do agree that it needs to be a tad longer (way too squat and compact) and that the fender guns are idiotic (provided they are meant to be fired)

I love it. It is absolutely adorable.
Altough I do not think it really fits in with the Guard. Maybe with these new Scion guys?

I have no idea what they were thinking with those treads, would replace with wheels. Then it wouldn't be so bad.

 scottmmmm wrote:


Also the name....Tau Rox. Is someone having a laugh at GW HQ? That's almost as bad as "A Bad 'Un".

Abaddon isn't supposed to be a pun, the name comes from an angel in Revelation and roughly translates from Hebrew as "place of destruction". Although it is technically pronounced "A Bad 'Un", most people I've heard pronounce it Ab-ba-DON in 40k.

The reason they named the 40k character after this angel is probably because the Abaddon in the Bible is a complete badass who takes part in destroying Terra... I mean earth. Plenty of other franchises spam this name as the obligatory "deep" Bible reference.

EDIT: Looks like I'm late to the party, lol.

I hate it with a passion and I'm not even a guard player, does not look like a 40k vehicle to me.

This is the first time I've seen or heard of it and before reading any replies here, my reaction was quite negative. The colour-scheme / paint job doesn't help but even allowing for that, it is ugly and for some reason feels it doesn't fit the 40K Imperium aesthetic. It reminds me of an Edwardian omnibus:



Not sure why, just something about the proportions. Of course I'm an elitist Eldar snob so all human vehicles are supposed to look ugly to me, but most Imperial vehicles have a certain sort of mental over the top feel to them - oversized, overarmoured, (overpriced. *snicker*). Whereas this looks indefinably flimsy. I think it's the way it's too tall for a "tank" and looks like it might tip over in exactly the way that a Leman Russ wouldn't. And it just doesn't feel very Imperium to me. Maybe it is the grills or something. But "steampunk" as others have said. It's the tank that Mr. Toad of Toad Hall would drive. *beep beep*



What's it for and where did it come from? I'm assuming it's a new toy for the Imperial Guard from somewhere. Not to tangent but is it rules-effective? Will we be seeing many of these things?

It has more firepower than a chimera and it can reroll dangerous terrain tests, but it has weak armor. It's only AV11/10/10 with 3 HP.

Think of it as a trukk that sacrifices speed for fire power.
Though the Taurox Prime is a fast vehicle.

It's comparable to the space marine razorback.

When I first saw a leak of it I thought it was a joke, too bad it's not. It's weird because GW has been doing a pretty good job with their models lately up until this thing. Looks like it should be stopping by the local grocery store to pick up the cash deposit. Might look ok as an ork truck, those things are supposed to be poorly designed.

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
Think of it as a trukk that sacrifices speed for fire power.
Though the Taurox Prime is a fast vehicle.

I think the best way to think of it is the Prime is a Chimera that has given up a point of armour to be faster and carry more bang bangs for 25pts more. The regular Taurox is like a Chimera that gives up a point of armour AND some bang bangs just to be fast at 5pt discount.

The regular Taurox isn't any more shooty than a Chimera. It has a Twin Linked autocannon, so 2 S7 AP4 TL shots vs the Chimera which is 6 S6 AP6 and 3 S5 AP4. Against most targets the Chimera is going to do more damage than the Taurox (the exception being armour 13 vehicles which the multilaser can't hurt and you probably aren't wasting autocannon shots on to begin with).

I personally think it looks ridiculous (in an awesome way), but as Imperial Guard seems to be the faction for more "realistic" models, perhaps designed to appeal to miniature hobbyists of a different stripe, I can see it being a big miss.

I'd love to see Blood Axes driving this thing around, though.

I guess they're going for an MRPV feeling, but in my eyes its too tall for use as a serious battlefield vehicle. As noted above, maybe a non-combat transport or Arbites thingy. its like they took all the bad bits from all previous imperial vehicles and kludged them together.

The model looks out of place in 40k. It doesn't look like it belongs with any of the 40k vehicles at all. The tracks look weird on the model and the color scheme is pretty meh too. I'm sure this thing is Rhino sized or smaller as well so it's over priced IMO.

AllSeeingSkink wrote:

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
Think of it as a trukk that sacrifices speed for fire power.
Though the Taurox Prime is a fast vehicle.

I think the best way to think of it is the Prime is a Chimera that has given up a point of armour to be faster and carry more bang bangs for 25pts more. The regular Taurox is like a Chimera that gives up a point of armour AND some bang bangs just to be fast at 5pt discount.

The regular Taurox isn't any more shooty than a Chimera. It has a Twin Linked autocannon, so 2 S7 AP4 TL shots vs the Chimera which is 6 S6 AP6 and 3 S5 AP4. Against most targets the Chimera is going to do more damage than the Taurox (the exception being armour 13 vehicles which the multilaser can't hurt and you probably aren't wasting autocannon shots on to begin with).

The multilaser is Heavy 3, not heavy 6.

We don't know the new price of the chimera either.

It is true though that the standard taurox has less dakka than a chimera. I was thinking of the prime when I typed that.

I don't like it very much, but that's just my opinion. It seems to me there are two schools of thought at GW when it comes to models. Some are very 'realistic', for lack of a better word, and some are more 'cartoony', again for lack of a better word. I am more in the realistic camp. I like models like the Valkyrie and Chimera. Models like this and the Storm Raven, Storm Talon and such I don't like. It's a matter of what astetic you prefer.

It has potential, but it sucks that I would have to convert it just to have it feel "right" on the tabletop. Moving the side guns to the front fenders would have to be the first thing I would have to do.

 AegisGrimm wrote:
It has potential, but it sucks that I would have to convert it just to have it feel "right" on the tabletop. Moving the side guns to the front fenders would have to be the first thing I would have to do.

Ugh, yeah. At first I thought those are for storage, but according to the white dwarf entry, those are in, fact usable weapons

The Buffalo MRAP that the Taurox is based on. While it looks okay, the biggest problem IMHO is that it breaks the theme of the IG vehicles all being based on the Chimera chassis.

The more I look at it, the more in grows on me. Overall, I think it's the paint jobs they've given them that I don't like; more so than the models themselves.

Really love the hull but hate the tracks.
I like the way it looks quite pugnacious, that pic of the green paintjob does make it look better too.

Same as Ratius: love the hull, hate the tracks. With wheels it would be OK.

And the Tauros looks far better: http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Warhammer-40000/Imperial_Guard/Elysian_Drop_Troops/ELYSIAN-TAUROS-VENATOR.html

Personally I like it and may well get it if I can justify it in my army. It looks dreadful in some pics but with a decent paintjob and when you see it mixed in with other models I think it works. IMO, of course.

Also, wouldn't those fender guns hit those pipes?
Seriously GW, wtf?
I mean, I want to like this model, but there's silly things like that.
I can forgive the nightscythe having an exposed pilot, but the fender guns are just too much.



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 da001 wrote:
Same as Ratius: love the hull, hate the tracks. With wheels it would be OK.

And the Tauros looks far better: http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Warhammer-40000/Imperial_Guard/Elysian_Drop_Troops/ELYSIAN-TAUROS-VENATOR.html

Yeah, it's funny. You'd think the side company wouldn't be better at designing models than the parent.

I don't like the tracks either. It really takes away from the mini to me.

It looks like the really old Armorcast stuff and thus goofy. The Scion minis themselves look good, but the Taurox and leaked Ogryn models might be the ugliest thing GW has released in quite some time.

The first thing I said when I saw the leaked pictures of the taurox was, "Why are those storm troopers falling back into an ork trukk?" this is really not a good looking model. It's way too tall. imperial vehicles are usually so squat, and this is a tower of fail propelled by little tracked arby's potato cakes.

I dunno about that, the Leman Russ is one of the least squat tanks I have ever seen.

I don't like the vanilla model but I think that it's got some good potential for conversion.

 gianlucafiorentini123 wrote:
I don't like the vanilla model but I think that it's got some good potential for conversion.

Agree.

There's a lot of conversion potential in it but the model itself really doesn't do it for me. I think I'd like it if it were an ork vehicle.

I-bounty-hunt-the-elderly wrote:

 scottmmmm wrote:

Also the name....Tau Rox. Is someone having a laugh at GW HQ? That's almost as bad as "A Bad 'Un".

Maybe you're joking, but I can't stand it when people spout this sort of thing as a criticism. Taurox is the usual bad latin sort of name 40k has already featured (taurus=a bull) and Abaddon is a demon from the old testament. They're not actually puns.

Yeahhhh I was joking. I can't stand it when people can't take a joke. Also, do you know the designers personally? If not, how can you know whether they enjoyed the double entendre that comes with that name. I'm aware of Abaddon from the Bible, and of course it's a good fit because of that, but it could also be a terrible pun. In the north of England this is how people would say "A bad one". Even if it wasn't intentional, there's still a pun there.

CthuluIsSpy wrote:

 scottmmmm wrote:
That's almost as bad as "A Bad 'Un".

Abaddon is named after a fallen angel, it isn't a pun

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abaddon

Taurox is derived from the latin word for bull. Why would an Imperial vehicle be praising Tau? Your interpretation doesn't make sense.

I wasn't actually implying that they'd name an imperial vehicle praising the Tau race because I'm not stupid. It was a joke. You would think that they would avoid the Tau prefix like the plague because it's used elsewhere in their range.

As it stands it's both an unfortunate pun and a terrible model.

The guns over the rear fender and the exhaust running through the cab are pretty embarrassing. Def would prefer wheels, but the model has potential for conversion.

My opinion of the taurox is much the same as my opinion on the new tempestus infantry models - what they did good, they did very, very good, and what they did bad, they did horrid.

I like the move towards renaissance and making things look more like walking/driving cathedrals. I like that it, for the first time in the history of GW, has a turret that's even approximately the correct size. I actually even kind of like that it's a truck, not a tank, and I love the fact that it has real windows, rather than just more of the glass porthole things. I like a lot of the little details as well, like the grille and the headlights and a bunch of little realistic details.

... but. When you put them all together, you have one hideous model that I'll never buy or field. If I have to, you better believe there will be hella conversion work done to it. The thing I find really strange is that there are already imperium vehicles with side hatches. Why did they go for the awful 4x track thing when they could have made it like a rhino or land raider where the track goes over the wheel well?

I also agree that there are some parts that look like an imperium vehicle (the sloping rear armor like a russ, for example), as a whole it looks like a model designed for a different game.

Oh yes I LOVE the new vehicle.......... It will make a great command Battlewagon

That or an armoured limousine for a genestealer cult

Hate it

Yup its official... I'm the only person who likes it

Okay, I love Land Rovers, but I do think the Taurox looks great.

The Taurox would work well with an arctic or cold weather themed army.

Looks better without the turret but then....it doesn't have a turret so it's pointless. The tracks look like they were designed by someone who has never seen tracks in action before, or even how they are supposed to work. The dangerously close to 90 degree angle of them would mean this thing wouldn't be able to drive over a speedbump. Even IOM isnt that backwards. Was really hoping it would have a wheeled option but alas, gw is still employing six year olds to design their vehicles.

Yeahcould see it as a valhallan snowcat

With wheels its alright.
And repositioning of weapons and such.
And a decent paint job.

 scottmmmm wrote:


I wasn't actually implying that they'd name an imperial vehicle praising the Tau race

I think you're underestimating GW.

My thought on this thing is that they had ideas for three different vehicles but could only afford to make one, so they mashed everything together on this, making it a true chimera.
I would hate to be assaulting out of this and getting drilled by the las guns mounted right behind the side door.

 Ghaz wrote:


The Buffalo MRAP that the Taurox is based on. While it looks okay, the biggest problem IMHO is that it breaks the theme of the IG vehicles all being based on the Chimera chassis.

Don't you dare compare that monstrosity to bonecrusher!Anyone here that knows who bonecrusher is probably thinks I'm a heretic for liking Micheal bays transformers.

Skribl wrote:
The first thing I said when I saw the leaked pictures of the taurox was, "Why are those storm troopers falling back into an ork trukk?" this is really not a good looking model. It's way too tall. imperial vehicles are usually so squat, and this is a tower of fail propelled by little tracked arby's potato cakes.

squat vehicles? Squat? GW does not like Squats...

At first, I hated the look of the thing. But once I saw a 360 degree view of it, and saw it painted in green without all the additional decorations, it started to grow on me. It's not the best model they've made, but it's not all that bad either.

Can't deny that it would make a great Ork vehicle though.

It needs wheels

Can this be my proxy?

Like the rest of the line, it might kitbash well as well. I could imagine bitz-ordering a chimera chassis and then splicing the taurox top onto a chimera bottom.

Cant say I like it. However, I agree with others that it will look awesome with some orky conversions.

I feel like it would be a better design by having 2 tracks instead of the 4. Besides that, love the vehicle.

It has grown on me, at first I didn't like it in my opinion the tracks look ridiculous. But I have to admit I like it now. With a minor conversion to wheels in the front it will really look cool.

I think it's neat. It took me til seeing the more toned-down paintjob to really want one, but I like it just the same. It looks like a rugged Imperial truck, and has just the right amount of silliness required for a proper 40k unit.

As it stands, no.

As a half track, looted by Orks however... that's a very different story - that really could look the berries.

The only good thing about the Taurox is that it makes the DA skimmer, Mutilators, and the Tau flyer all look better in comparison.

There's just so much that just feels off to me. It looks like a fast transport, but then they put way too heavy of weaponry on it. The guns mounted in the rear so you are shooting from the hip in an even more inaccurate way. The hatches that are placed just in front of guns.
The treads alone: no suspension, they look upside down, they don't like like they distribute weight good enough on such a large vehicle, the spare fenders, and I'm sure there is a few things I forgot.

The most unforgiveable thing about it is that it doesn't fit the standard look or feel for IG.

I don't think it can be justified with the "bit of conversion" work to make it look good. If that's the case then I say Green Stuff is by far the best model produced by GW.

I'm not sure what the gripe is, this new model looks a lot more like a modern day APC than the WWI and Korean War era designs GW has been using for three decades. I like it.

SJ

At first I hated it, but then I got to see the full 360 view on GW's page.

Now I absolutely loathe it.

That looks nothing like any IG vehicle ever designed in the history of ever. The design is pants-on-head slowed (Exhaust goes into the cabin! Guns to shoot the disembarking troops! A profile so high Dreadknights can use it as cover!) the tracks are uglier than that Sister Dialogus model (but not the Ork Cheerleader... they aren't quite that level of ugly) and the armor is crapsack, so it isn't just an ugly model its a too-fragile transport as well.

I don't care that it looks kinda-sorta like a real live modern military vehicle. When in the feth has the IG ever used modern looking vehicles? This model belongs in the new Ork Codex, where its design aesthetic would be much more appropriate.

Frankly, of all the new models we've seen (Storm Troopers, Ogryns, and this thing) I've liked the look of exactly none of them. Doesn't leave me with much hope for the models from the proper IG release...

Things I like:

a) A departure from the "single hull" policy.
b) I LOVE armored cars.

Things I dislike:

a) Needless bling.
b) Fender guns.

Things I loathe.

a) THE TRACKS. No, I don't mind the quad track configuration. It's GW tracks I dislike. I hated them on the Chimera, I hated them on the Russ, and I hate them on the Taurox. I was sincerely hoping that Imperial vehicles would get a redesign in this edition, one that gave them wider tracks and some ground clearance, but no. Instead we get a vehicle that perpetuates the aesthetic mistakes that plague Imperial vehicles since the 1990s.



Now this is how you make a tracked vehicle. It's also dieselpunk and goth-scifi-ish in execution, but looks like ten times better.

No skulls.

I didn't see the rear guns until people pointed it out here.

My god, what were they thinking! Fair enough if it was firing backwards, but right past the side hatch? Derrrrrp


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squidhills wrote:
At first I hated it, but then I got to see the full 360 view on GW's page.

Frankly, of all the new models we've seen (Storm Troopers, Ogryns, and this thing) I've liked the look of exactly none of them. Doesn't leave me with much hope for the models from the proper IG release...

I like the stormtroopers, the masks in particular are good - but it's your opinion of course. I haven't had much of a chance to look at the Ogryns yet.

Oh my God it's bad... bad bad bad!
I genuinely think this is possibly the worst looking vehicle kit GW have ever produced. The design is ridiculous and as previously mentioned contains so many stupid elements (side hatches opening into gun arcs, engine exhausts randomly appearing at the back, tracks with even less chance of working than the Chimera etc etc) that it genuinely looks like it was designed by a child with no experience in design whatsoever. If you look on the GW site at the 360 view it doesn't even sit with all tracks flat to the deck, and that's a professionally built & painted model! It will need a LOT of kitbashing to make it non sick-inducing in my opinion.
Whoever signed off on that abortion wants sacking.

The normal Imperial Guard version is certainly better then the "Prime" version, especially with the removal of the turret. Other than *maybe* the twin autocannons, it's the top turret that keeps making it look horrible to me. So extremely top-heavy. The pic below (minus the stupid side autocannons, of course) just makes it look like a really cool, grimdark heavy truck. I could see it around mining operations.

 Daedricbob wrote:
Oh my God it's bad... bad bad bad!
I genuinely think this is possibly the worst looking vehicle kit GW have ever produced.

Hey, don't forget the Lord of Skulls! That one can't even be converted to look cool!

No I don't like it. I find it Incredibly stupid.

Its an interesting model. But I expect to see people using different models for the Taurox.

This Is what I'll be using (If i use them)

 Andilus Greatsword wrote:

 Daedricbob wrote:
Oh my God it's bad... bad bad bad!
I genuinely think this is possibly the worst looking vehicle kit GW have ever produced.

Hey, don't forget the Lord of Skulls! That one can't even be converted to look cool!

I disagree.

If we are compared horrible models - don;t forget the Centurions - "Shudder"

not far behind are the recent Marine flyers and the GK baby carrier............

on the (slightly) positive side - it might be that all the Militarium Temp rules are in the White Dwarf...........

That legged lord of skulls is AWESOME.

I make my wallet cry just by looking at it though.

But such a conversion seems very plausible for use in actual games. Just to remove Tracked Behemoth.

 BrotherHaraldus wrote:
That legged lord of skulls is AWESOME.

I make my wallet cry just by looking at it though.

But such a conversion seems very plausible for use in actual games. Just to remove Tracked Behemoth.

I'm actually quite a fan of the tracked knight too. The body type just lends itself a lot more to being mounted that way in my opinion (of course I could just be getting flashbacks to sir killalot from the old fighting robot tv show).

I might just get one and make it proppa Orky.

For starters, I would replace the front tracks with wheels for a half track look.

Wouldn't take too much more to orkify this thing.

As Imperial vehicles go, I admit that I am not a big fan of this model. However, as a trukk or looted wagon...

 Ninjacommando wrote:
Its an interesting model. But I expect to see people using different models for the Taurox.

This Is what I'll be using (If i use them)

That looks pretty sweet.

I think it is the worst model GW have ever produced. I actually do think it is even worse than Nagash. Truly hideous. It doesn't work aesthetically, logically, coherently with other guard designs... It just sucks on every possible level.

Was it designed by somebody who doesn't understand engineering? Are the tracks on upsidedown?

It's too primitive looking, just compare it to some of the heavy duty anti-IED vehicles we have in warzones right now. Stick tracks on any of the following examples and you have a far more realistic (and cooler) APC.

You realize that "primitive" and "Imperium" tend to go hand in hand right?

The Leman Russ Battle Tank isn't exactly the pinnacle of modern tank engineering y'know.

There needs to be one more option "I play Orks and want to loot the thing"

The main problem with the tracks isn't necessarily the tracks, so much as that they are ludicrously tiny. They're like clown car tracks. There's no way that those tiny things are putting enough power down to move the vehicle anywhere, and they're so small and low that the vehicle is ludicrously top-heavy.

It looks like if one of those things were made in real life, it would do nothing more than spin its treads and then fall over. Even if you could get it moving, it's top speed would be tiny.

And I like the "one tank" design. It's very imperium. No reason they couldn't have stuck with the theme.

I suppose at least we should be grateful that the rules for these things seem so awful so few people will buy them. Unless they do something to horribly thundernerf the chimera, which would be a little sad.

I thought for sure that this thing was a new Steam Tank variant when I first saw it.

Horrible model unless the Orks make some serious mods.

 Kanluwen wrote:
You realize that "primitive" and "Imperium" tend to go hand in hand right?

The Leman Russ Battle Tank isn't exactly the pinnacle of modern tank engineering y'know.

To me the Taurox look primitive by Imperium standards. There's a simple beauty to a lot of their patterns, but this looks more like a parody than a tried-and-tested battle machine. Both examples I linked look suitable for IG use, a lot more so than this muscle-truck mad-max nightmare of a Tonka toy.

Why would you have unnecessarily tiny tracks which are wider at the top than at the bottom? Does it have a special rule where if it remains stationary for a turn it slowly sinks into the ground and counts as being in soft cover ?

 dementedwombat wrote:

 Andilus Greatsword wrote:

 Daedricbob wrote:
Oh my God it's bad... bad bad bad!
I genuinely think this is possibly the worst looking vehicle kit GW have ever produced.

Hey, don't forget the Lord of Skulls! That one can't even be converted to look cool!

I disagree.

As do I. I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that the Khornemower at the very least has the aesthetics of it's damn army down. The Taurox looks like an 8 year old tried to covert a Tonka truck by slapping on some cut up Chimera tracks, and some sentinel guns, then called it a day.

So that would be a "no"...

I actually really like the look of the entire model as it looks like an MRAP (pictured below), besides the Tracks for the most part and the side weapons being used as the "sponsons". Besides that those are pretty easy fixes, will probably use Wheels in Place of the Tracks and place the secondary weapon on the turret as well.

Obvious +1 vote thread is obvious. Why do people make these threads if all people have been doing is bashing on the model?

The Taurox to me is just such a waste for so many reasons. It's an answer to an unasked question, and is ugly to boot. With its cost and stats, the basic Taurox is basically always going to play 2nd fiddle to the Chimera unless they majorly nerfed the Chimera as well. The Prime Taurox is too expensive after kit to be viable in the 6E "lol HP's" metagame, where it'll die like a Rhino (if not easier) but cost nearly 3x as much after kit and will be transporting significantly squishier cargo, while the Hellhound chassis vehicles fill the firepower role it tries to fill.

I really wish they would have just done more Chimera variants, like in Epic, such as the Chimerax instead.

As for looks, the thing looks...Chibi, though that seems to be GW's thing of late. It's treads look even more non-functional than other IG tanks, it would have looked possibly passable with wheels but the treads just look bad. It's way too detailed, especially for a non-centerpiece model, which will add more time and effort to building and painting them than is worth for such a short-lived transport. Also, it looks way too heavily armored to be just AV10 on the sides, but that's not the first time GW has done that either.

It looks like someone took a WHFB Steamtank and mated it with an Ork Battlewagon.

If they'd made it a little shorter, a little longer, given it side AV11 and wheels and made the base version Fast, it might have a purpose and might not look awful. Alas they did not.

TL;DR It's an ugly answer to an unasked question and fails to add much to the IG.

 Markerlight Junkie wrote:
Obvious +1 vote thread is obvious. Why do people make these threads if all people have been doing is bashing on the model?

Because sometimes it's nice to check if the bashing is coming from a vocal minority or not

 Vaktathi wrote:
Also, it looks way too heavily armored to be just AV10 on the sides, but that's not the first time GW has done that either.

This. I was honestly expecting 12/11/10 when I saw the model. Reading the rules afterwords and seeing 11/10/10 just felt like a bad joke.

All Imperium vehicles look boring. Doesn't make the Taurox special.

I don't mind it, but it doesn't have enough visual or rules appeal to bump it up to a "must buy on release day!" that some other kits have.

I like the model almost as little as I like the rules for it...

 Mywik wrote:
I dont really like it. Im not an ig player though. If i ever start ig and want to use the taurox i will use this model from dreamforges Eisenkern Range:

Spoiler:

Why can't GW do things like that? The Taurox is so appalling.

 Kanluwen wrote:
You realize that "primitive" and "Imperium" tend to go hand in hand right?

The Leman Russ Battle Tank isn't exactly the pinnacle of modern tank engineering y'know.

I agree, but it still looks stupid. It reminds me of the Go Bots command center. The wheeled track thing are almost entirely the problem, had they made it a half-track or given it wheels it would look fine. But just with most GW models this days, it falls to the customers to try and fix them to make the models look passable.

I'm not sure why GW made it this way in any regard. Beyond their designers simply being bad, maybe it was cheaper to make or makes it harder for players to convert.

Im kinda 50/50.

Id rather have it have wheels in the front to make a half track which, to me at least, would make it look more like the "higher mobility" or even all wheels like a large truck or heavy wheeled APC.

Supposedly the turret can be mounted on the rear, but I have yet to see it, that and the offcenter gun on the turret just irks me for some reason. Overall the machine looks fine except for the little bits I mentioned. Ill probly end up with at least 1 "official" model and a few modded or total conversions anyways.

 scottmmmm wrote:
Not sure if there is a poll for this already (couldn't see one), but I was wondering how people feel about the new Taurox model for the IG...I mean Astra Militarum. I'm surprised there hasn't been more chat about it, as I think it's quite a "love it or hate it" model.

Personally I'm not a big fan. It looks like a weird steampunk jeep that wouldn't actually be able to drive due to it's stupid tracks.

Also the name....Tau Rox. Is someone having a laugh at GW HQ? That's almost as bad as "A Bad 'Un".

For anyone who hasn't seen it :-

It looks like a Tonka truck. But it's design isn't entirely without precedent, I believe there have been armored cars with roughly similar designs.

Still, as is, it looks out of place in my Rodinav Frost Sabres, my Valhallan Ice Warriors, my Death Korps of Krieg, my Cadians, my wife's Gue'Vesa, or my Chaos Guard.

I'm impressed that it manages to find no aesthetic place among any of my Guard armies.

I also have to question why we're getting this thing. It doesn't exactly fill any much needed roles. I never looked at my guard armies and said "you know what I need? A rhino that shoots a ton of S4 shots has an autocannon".

The new Ogryns were something I expected to both improve the Ogryns and the Guard's counterassault game. But I honestly expected something like the power loader from alien or some kind of monster killing plasma boat.

Also, that turret cannon look like it was stolen from Action Man.

 Kain wrote:

 scottmmmm wrote:
Not sure if there is a poll for this already (couldn't see one), but I was wondering how people feel about the new Taurox model for the IG...I mean Astra Militarum. I'm surprised there hasn't been more chat about it, as I think it's quite a "love it or hate it" model.

Personally I'm not a big fan. It looks like a weird steampunk jeep that wouldn't actually be able to drive due to it's stupid tracks.

Also the name....Tau Rox. Is someone having a laugh at GW HQ? That's almost as bad as "A Bad 'Un".

For anyone who hasn't seen it :-

It looks like a Tonka truck. But it's design isn't entirely without precedent, I believe there have been armored cars with roughly similar designs.

Still, as is, it looks out of place in my Rodinav Frost Sabres, my Valhallan Ice Warriors, my Death Korps of Krieg, my Cadians, my wife's Gue'Vesa, or my Chaos Guard.

I'm impressed that it manages to find no aesthetic place among any of my Guard armies.

I also have to question why we're getting this thing. It doesn't exactly fill any much needed roles. I never looked at my guard armies and said "you know what I need? A rhino that shoots a ton of S4 shots has an autocannon".

The new Ogryns were something I expected to both improve the Ogryns and the Guard's counterassault game. But I honestly expected something like the power loader from alien or some kind of monster killing plasma boat.

Those dreadful treads ruins the entire model, its quite passable otherwise.

Always thought Centurions would better fit into, IG attempting to mass produce Power armor...

If they fixed the tracks it would make a big difference. It's not even the fact it has tracks, I can deal with that, it's the fact it has GOD DAMNED UGLY tracks. If they were exposed tracks and lower profile, it'd probably look a hell of a lot better.

Converting it to wheels doesn't seem as easy as people are pretending. To make it look good and proper, the suspension is going to need some work and the track guards need to be modified so they don't look randomly too massive. You could probably do a monster truck conversion more easily, but IMO that wouldn't look any better.

This monstrosity has AV11 front and AV10 rear/sides. Why would anyone field this model? Essentially you're handing your enemy free kill points, alongside the embarrassment of having such a fugly model to begin with. It's like a Brinks truck with a cannon strapped on the top of it with anemic treads.

 CrashCanuck wrote:
There needs to be one more option "I play Orks and want to loot the thing"

Across the great Imperium of Man, on many hundreds of battlefields, unwanted Taurox stand rusting................... not even the Orks wanted them.................

 Markerlight Junkie wrote:
Obvious +1 vote thread is obvious. Why do people make these threads if all people have been doing is bashing on the model?

Because I hadn't actually seen much chat about this model at all. I'd heard a discussion on how it looks on the 40k radio podcast, but that was it. Once the images came out, I quickly decided I didn't like it and wanted to see if others felt the same.

It makes me wonder why GW doesn't do this sort of market research themselves. Statistically this model has failed to impress the community of this forum, which is a good indication of how the wider community feels about it. Could they not have checked this before releasing it? Maybe they did, but they used a bunch of caged orks to critique the designs...





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 Mr Morden wrote:

 CrashCanuck wrote:
There needs to be one more option "I play Orks and want to loot the thing"

Across the great Imperium of Man, on many hundreds of battlefields, unwanted Taurox stand rusting................... not even the Orks wanted them.................

Haha! Have an exalt for that

well, I play orks and I DO want to loot this thing
looks like a great base for a battlewagon, just put the BW tracks on it.

This thing is terrible. I could see it in another wargame like Void 1.1 or Vor, but not in 40k. I understand its kind of modelled after that South African design the US used in Iraq and Afghanistan, but nevertheless, it doesnt look like it belongs in 40k.

I don't know anything about this new army... this is basically the imperial guard with a special forces option? They look like elite troops.

Tempestus gives you the option to field an army of Stormtroopers.
That's about it really.

No, not a fan of it at all. The multiple track sets is probably what does it for me. It would look much better, akin to a MRAP and thereby AWESOME, if they gave it wheels instead.

The Taurox, yes. The Taurox Prime, not so much. That bling is just too much and is not needed.

Should I get one ( or two ), the bling will stay off and my Stormies will ( try ) to race across the field of battle.

it might work if you made it wider and gave it wheels. You might need to redo the wheelguards too.

Why does one have the radiator grill exposed while the other has the radiator grill completely covered by a very thick metal shield? I'm also hating the slanted air intakes on the hood.
I'm tempted to get one of these because I'm sure if I broke it into 25 pieces it would become decent base decorations for a couple squads.

 Mr Morden wrote:

 CrashCanuck wrote:
There needs to be one more option "I play Orks and want to loot the thing"

Across the great Imperium of Man, on many hundreds of battlefields, unwanted Taurox stand rusting................... not even the Orks wanted them.................

Yue sure bout that?




Seems dem Orkziez been busy

Nah dats a propa Orky wagon made of lots of stuff and proppa shooty wiv wheelz and Trackz - proppa job.

Dat uvver fing is junk - it don't evn go fast

I will have to admit that it looks better, now that I have seen the offical pics of it in the White Dwarf than it did with a rumor pic. That being said I still dont like it, its still ugly as sin. The quad track thing is just too silly for me to even consider putting in my army. I'm on the boat that it would make a great ork battlewagen and would be really cool to convert into a half track. But I am not going to buy a model that I have to convert to make it useable.

Could make a sweet Orkee truck/wagon with it.

You know the more I think about this, the more I think how this is going to hurt GW, not help it. I mean, it must cost some cash to build molds for this, and I am sure this will sell to a few hardcore fans, but I bet it rots on the shelf at most stores. It will take a long time to make back the investment on this, if GW has the patience for it.

Then again, as I write that, I realize GW will just produce some new rules for it in the next edition that make it indespensible to the Imperium, and then they will prob fly off the shelves.

KTG17 wrote:
Then again, as I write that, I realize GW will just produce some new rules for it in the next edition that make it indespensible to the Imperium, and then they will prob fly off the shelves.

That's what I'm thinking except why wait? Now with the dataslates they can just script out a blurb for Taurox Ultraprime, same cost, Arm 13 all around, BS10 weapons, 6HP, etc. Now the thing will fly off the shelves AND they get the profit from the dataslate sales.

Dataslates become a type of hidden tax then?

I just hope they don't "Oh, we've had these trucks all along! They're an ancient design we've had for centuries!"
You know, it wouldn't be that unbelievable to just say "Hey, we made a truck. It's kinda fast and crappy, but we made it."
It's not that hard to believe that the Imperium of Man is capable of making a truck.

Chucked it in photoshop quickly to see if wheels would work. It still looks terrible unless you cut the front 'mudguards' off and lengthen the back end, then its just about passable.



A flat-bed design made out of sprue and plasticard is probably the best option I can think of, and the time needed to do it makes it not worthwhile in the slightest.

 ashcroft wrote:
Give it wheels and lower it a little and it would make a great vehicle for the Arbites. But I wouldn't touch it for the Guard - doesn't fit their visual style at all.

I like the Taurox, and think it works just fine in an IG/AM/MT army.

However, I wholeheartedly agree with this sentiment, and some day when I can spare the cash, I plan to get one or two to add to my Arbites and do exactly this. The thing is just screaming to become a SWAT van!

Also, the leftover tracks would make a great addition to some Grot Tanks.

 MWHistorian wrote:

It's not that hard to believe that the Imperium of Man is capable of making a truck.

Maybe that'll be the story. Someone decides to be proactive and tries to invent a truck, produces the Taurox.
"This is why we don't let you people invent things"

I think an unarmed version with fast would be pretty fun, RL armies use trucks all the time, no? Stick a heavy stubber and some front wheels on her and enjoy... NO FENDER OR TURRET GUNS!!!

Isn't the whole point that the mechanicum only make STC designs, the taurox does not look like any other imperial design.

Boxy works well for the imperium and this new vehicle just looks so out of place.

 mad_eddy_13 wrote:
I think an unarmed version with fast would be pretty fun, RL armies use trucks all the time, no? Stick a heavy stubber and some front wheels on her and enjoy... NO FENDER OR TURRET GUNS!!!

They use trucks but don't ride them into battle.

 Vaktathi wrote:

 mad_eddy_13 wrote:
I think an unarmed version with fast would be pretty fun, RL armies use trucks all the time, no? Stick a heavy stubber and some front wheels on her and enjoy... NO FENDER OR TURRET GUNS!!!

They use trucks but don't ride them into battle.

It would be a good look though, and useful for the fast movement of troops that keeps them safe from a lot of the stuff that kills guardsmen...

It looks like a little piglet squealing away! Wee Wee Wee!
Guys don't let your girlfriends catch you playing with this thing!
I liked the model until I came here and now I think this is the worst release GW have ever done since Finecast.
The double mud guards and exhaust pipes going into the cabin ! Laughable! Looks like a little kids toys... terrible, however with some serious conversion and heavily weathered paint it may look cool.
Here's an afterthought; Imagine this kit in finecast! HAA HHAA!



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Don't get me wrong I like the Steampunk look and don't want to run GW down but this mod has got some big design problems. GW have just released one of my most favourite kits the Imperial Knight and one of my least favourite kits... ever. Sorry but is there no end to these damn imperials!

 scottmmmm wrote:


Also the name....Tau Rox. Is someone having a laugh at GW HQ? That's almost as bad as "A Bad 'Un".

I would have prefered Taurus, but GW has a thi9nk at the moment for unique names for IP trademark reasons.

As for "A Bad 'Un", thats coincidental. Abaddon is a Biblical name and refers to the Angel of Destruction. It's as traditional as calling things Baal.

I had to laugh at today's White Dwarf Daily :-

"Imagine an army made entirely of Tempestus Scions, dropping from the sky on grav-chutes and engaging the enemy with extreme prejudice. Picture them racing forward in Taurox Primes supported by Valkyries and Vendetta Gunships, scything down their foes with well-drilled precision, their hot-shot lasguns lighting up the battlefield like Christmas."

Then I looked down and saw the Taurox Prime. That thing isn't racing anywhere...

 Savageconvoy wrote:

 MWHistorian wrote:

It's not that hard to believe that the Imperium of Man is capable of making a truck.

Maybe that'll be the story. Someone decides to be proactive and tries to invent a truck, produces the Taurox.
"This is why we don't let you people invent things"

Brilliant!

I can see the Tech-Priest now, being lead into the bay by a bunch of excited technomats and Guardsmen on some crap-hole Forge World in a system of Agri-Worlds.
He walks in, mechadendrites twitching, and then sees this thing these plebs are just super-excited over. He takes one look at it, photo-receptors blinking.

"This is why we don't let you morons read the design manuals."

They use trucks but don't ride them into battle.

Actually, we do. The 555th Combat Engineers have (or had) a truck just *covered* in armor plate that mounts a MA-2 .50cal machine gun in a turret above the cab. Its blast shields read "Get Some", if you've got the muzzle pointed at you.

 Ratius wrote:
Really love the hull but hate the tracks.
I like the way it looks quite pugnacious, that pic of the green paintjob does make it look better too.

Darn I was going to post, but you said exactly what I was going to.
I actually do like the hull, I dont find it ugly or even steampunk like people are saying. To me it looks more like a modern military APC or armoured truck, but with the typical gothic flair. The tracks though.... nope... they're like a giant, bulbous nose on an otherwise pretty face. If I were to get one I would put on some proper tires, then I would be happy.

Actually I would change a second thing. Those fender guns really did look like they were supposed to be in storage rather than working weapons, it just seems kinda silly to have loaded guns aimed at where your passengers disembark (though in 40k having a gun pointed at you IS called encouragement, so maybe its to get them moving when the vehicle stops)

 Psienesis wrote:

 Savageconvoy wrote:

 MWHistorian wrote:

It's not that hard to believe that the Imperium of Man is capable of making a truck.

Maybe that'll be the story. Someone decides to be proactive and tries to invent a truck, produces the Taurox.
"This is why we don't let you people invent things"

Brilliant!

I can see the Tech-Priest now, being lead into the bay by a bunch of excited technomats and Guardsmen on some crap-hole Forge World in a system of Agri-Worlds.
He walks in, mechadendrites twitching, and then sees this thing these plebs are just super-excited over. He takes one look at it, photo-receptors blinking.

"This is why we don't let you morons read the design manuals."

They use trucks but don't ride them into battle.

Actually, we do. The 555th Combat Engineers have (or had) a truck just *covered* in armor plate that mounts a MA-2 .50cal machine gun in a turret above the cab. Its blast shields read "Get Some", if you've got the muzzle pointed at you.

I Love the halftracks they used in WWII, same principle, but with tracks

I hate the track wheels, they should have half tracked it.

It looks alot like the modified Bush Master Apc we use for fire fighting.

It's a futuristic MRAP. I like that aesthetic about it. Looks like it came from our time period, went grimdark baroque, a dash of improper scaling and handwavium technology, and ta da! It's the silly things like this that make me really enough 40k as a hobby. It's a bit ugly to be sure but maybe that is why I find this model quite charming. I look forward to painting one up.

The rules seem fairly nifty: with the ability to re-roll Dangerous Terrain and pack some decent firepower, my Mech guard might see a few of these testing the table. If Al'Rahem is still in the new Codex (or his equivalent), an outflanking platoon of twin-linked autocannons isn't a bad idea for causing backfield mayhem. Armor is a bit weaker but, eh, I play Guard. If things aren't dying in droves, we aren't winning the war yet.

its a morris quad with a turret and tracks

 Ailaros wrote:
The main problem with the tracks isn't necessarily the tracks, so much as that they are ludicrously tiny. They're like clown car tracks. There's no way that those tiny things are putting enough power down to move the vehicle anywhere, and they're so small and low that the vehicle is ludicrously top-heavy.

It looks like if one of those things were made in real life, it would do nothing more than spin its treads and then fall over. Even if you could get it moving, it's top speed would be tiny.

And I like the "one tank" design. It's very imperium. No reason they couldn't have stuck with the theme.

I suppose at least we should be grateful that the rules for these things seem so awful so few people will buy them. Unless they do something to horribly thundernerf the chimera, which would be a little sad.

Yaay for bv206s and teeny tiny multi-track unit vehicles, or something...

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bandvagn_206

Looks moderately mediocre.

Not cringeworthy but not interesting either.

Hmm...you can't aim the weapons on the back and they're pointed directly at the passengers who disembark from the side doors...

Nope. Design is, by the Dakka definition, "slowed" in a way that relegates it to the short bus.

I hate it, my friends and I bashed the hell out of it upon reveal.

I dunno if anyone mentioned it yet, but... would those treads be wide enough to cross a trench or gap of any sort? You know, that being the original purpose of tracked vehicles?

I think it'd look HUGELY better as a half-track or with wheels, though.

The rest of it's okay, just not a fan of the tiny little treads.


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 NuggzTheNinja wrote:
Hmm...you can't aim the weapons on the back and they're pointed directly at the passengers who disembark from the side doors...

Nope. Design is, by the Dakka definition, "slowed" in a way that relegates it to the short bus.

Worse than that, when the doors open, all that fire is going to be redirected via ricochet... INTO the passenger compartment.

i wanna buy one for the challenge of making it look decent. converted into a hydra it might look like a WW2 anti-aircraft US halftrack. as a valhallan player i like the idea of making it into a katyusha by striping it down and making use of the rock pod attachment.

http://images.hemmings.com/wp-content/uploads//2012/10/Whitehalftrack_01_1500.jpg

http://www.icm.com.ua/uploads/posts/2009-12/1260366437_35512-bm-13-16n-engl.jpg

Absolutely terribIe, will look like a joke next to Vendetta. If the fantasyish/ medieval bling is the new direction for IG, I might go and start the army just before they turn Vendeta into some crappy mechanical griphon and Leman Russ into Napoleonic era gun on tracks.

Really another victim of fantasy in spaaaace emphasis in 6th. The list grows, Newcrons, Helldrake, now this.

A halftrack should have long treads in the back and wheels in the front.

Not 4 little tiny treads...

A good vehicle should either be steel-grey, camo, futuristic-looking, or something else that's actually impressive.

Not pastel blue...

Overall, they were a few steps away from success and they botched it. I could totally see the Imperium having a halftrack-y thing with heavy weapons mounted on it, but the Taurox just looks awful.

And how does it move fast with the four teeny treads? They should know that treads are for things that need to be all-terrain and durable, and stuff like tanks generally don't move very fast. I see games with the Taurox as being somewhat surreal- this too tall, baby blue, treaded thing zipping across the table like a snail on methamphetamine.

Aesthetics are all done to opinion,but yeah, it should at least look like it works. The guns on the back are as useful as nipples on a breastplate, and would hit the passengers when disembarking, or the engine exhaust. Also, what's the point of making an armoured vehicle and exposing the exhausts? Lastly, the tracks don't look like they would work particularly well, and don't seem to even fit well on the model judging from the 'Eavy Metal pics.

I have one!

Pre-ordered it from Element Games and it arrived on the release date. I haven't had much time since to get to build it yet, I've just clipped the main hull pieces from the sprues and done some dry fitting so far. I'm gonna convert the feth out of it, Chapter House tires on the front, my own scratch built track systems to the rear. I want to make a halftrack Trojan proxy to tow some light artillery pieces (thud gun proxies) that I got from the Curious Constructs Kickstarter

My thoughts are thus;

The quad track units are truly awful, such a waste, everybody, wheels look so much better its not even funny.

The interior is fully detailed which although is quite cool, is going to be totally wasted on me as I won't be going anywhere near it with a paint brush, the roof will be glued down and I won't even be assembling the crew in their driving positions, I'll keep the bits for other conversions.

The turret with its side mounted weapon options doesn't fit the IG aesthetic, the punishers look too puny, the battlecannon looks like no other gun in the Guard armoury but the autocannons are sweet. I'll build mine with the stormbolters and add a gun shield.

Not digging the hump back look of the model at all, if you can picture the roof totally flat you'll get an idea of what I'm going to do it, anything to bring down the overall height of it!

That said I do like the model, it isn't mind blowingly outstanding but with a bit of care and attention I think it can be redeemed!

i dont want to put a potato up everyone's poorly designed exhaust pipes, but i think the occupants of the vehicle exit through the rear... meaning they wouldn't get hit by the weapons on the side. the door on the side is for the crew who cant fire it and disembark from it simultaneously.

also, this vehicle (im thinking of the green painted one) looks the part for an ogryn transport for precisely all the reasons its been slated. an ogryn transport would look too bulky, too tall, abit out of place and almost orkish.

It needs wheels its based of the MRAP it seems, which looks much better because of the wheels

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_MaxxPro

 Andilus Greatsword wrote:

 Daedricbob wrote:
Oh my God it's bad... bad bad bad!
I genuinely think this is possibly the worst looking vehicle kit GW have ever produced.

Hey, don't forget the Lord of Skulls! That one can't even be converted to look cool!

Am I the only one that loves Lord of Skulls? It's 40k to 11, it is a tank, a train and a guy, has a ridiculous stomach canon, an actual axe, idiotic amount of skulls and multiple juggernaut heads, just because. It's 40k silly, unlike Taurox that is just silly imo.

Yes I am probably. But truth be told, I prefer it over hurr durr noble good let's save someone no skulls Imperial Knight.

 wangalang wrote:

i dont want to put a potato up everyone's poorly designed exhaust pipes, but i think the occupants of the vehicle exit through the rear... meaning they wouldn't get hit by the weapons on the side. the door on the side is for the crew who cant fire it and disembark from it simultaneously.

also, this vehicle (im thinking of the green painted one) looks the part for an ogryn transport for precisely all the reasons its been slated. an ogryn transport would look too bulky, too tall, abit out of place and almost orkish.

That would make sense, if Chimeras couldn't already carry Ogryns.

Calling it now that Chimeras cannot carry Bulky models (I.e. Ogryns).

I can see myself kitbashing it into an orky transport. Think this:



or this:



In looted fashion.