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new website NO FAQ @ 2014/04/10 08:35:27


Post by: ausYenLoWang


ok so as above, With the new website the FAQ and errata are gone, may be temporary, may be permanent...

What to do What to do....


new website NO FAQ @ 2014/04/10 09:08:38


Post by: Stephanius


It's only logical. After all, FAQ would imply the books are less than perfect.


new website NO FAQ @ 2014/04/10 09:10:18


Post by: Kain


I foresee madness in the future.


new website NO FAQ @ 2014/04/10 09:23:53


Post by: ausYenLoWang


Well yes kain we do have madness, there is now a rules paradox.

The print BRB and the Digital BRB were auto udpated when FAQ and erata came along, same with the digital versions of the codex.

basic example is the Hellbrute, its 105 in my print book and 100 in the Digital... which is now correct etc.

so in the grimdark future of 40k there is paradox's and madness


new website NO FAQ @ 2014/04/10 11:15:57


Post by: sarduka42


Well for the moment, I would go with the latest printed/digital printed rules as the correct information.

Unfortunately we're going to have to treat anything that was in the FAQs as obsolete now, so either revert to the last printed instructions or point values or go with the classic dice role to validate arguments brought on by this GW mess.


new website NO FAQ @ 2014/04/10 11:21:44


Post by: Tactical_Genius


Missile drones...


new website NO FAQ @ 2014/04/10 11:27:27


Post by: Ouze


Sorry, disregard. I was mistaken.

It would seem only Thunderdome remains.


new website NO FAQ @ 2014/04/10 11:29:21


Post by: sing your life


They probably forgot to transfer them in the new site.


new website NO FAQ @ 2014/04/10 11:31:31


Post by: Hereticdave


 sarduka42 wrote:

Unfortunately we're going to have to treat anything that was in the FAQs as obsolete now, so either revert to the last printed instructions or point values or go with the classic dice role to validate arguments brought on by this GW mess.


Or we could go with the latest that were released before the new site? I only have the ones relevant to my armies but I'm sure between the hobby community there's a way to divulge the information from the faq's. Does that go against copyright? I'm not sure on the legal issues but that seems like the most logical approach to my mind.


new website NO FAQ @ 2014/04/10 12:03:12


Post by: Mywik





On a serious note:
I hope they get the faqs back on the page. The faqs at least make them look like they tried.


new website NO FAQ @ 2014/04/10 12:05:14


Post by: hands_miranda


Tactical_Genius wrote:
Missile drones...


This is super interesting. Effectively, does this mean it's going to be cool to take Missile Drones in normal Tau squads again? Not sure it'll be that great since they can be buffed by a drone controller, but it is a big change to the way the army works.


new website NO FAQ @ 2014/04/10 12:06:11


Post by: CthuluIsSpy


 Kain wrote:
I foresee madness in the future.


Scarabs and Missile Drones. Scarabs and Missile drones everywhere.


new website NO FAQ @ 2014/04/10 12:20:14


Post by: WarOne


 ausYenLoWang wrote:
ok so as above, With the new website the FAQ and errata are gone, may be temporary, may be permanent...

What to do What to do....


Is that a RAW or RAI statement?

Page and rule citation please. FAQ if possib...

oh wait.


new website NO FAQ @ 2014/04/10 12:20:26


Post by: Grimtuff


 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
 Kain wrote:
I foresee madness in the future.


Scarabs and Missile Drones. Scarabs and Missile drones everywhere.


More expensive Hellbrutes too IIRC.


new website NO FAQ @ 2014/04/10 12:20:56


Post by: CthuluIsSpy


But if they are more expensive, they wouldn't be everywhere

Many a CSM would be annoyed though...

So, Annoyed CSM players, annoyed CSM played everywhere.


new website NO FAQ @ 2014/04/10 12:21:54


Post by: Ravenous D


Tactical_Genius wrote:
Missile drones...


Tau digital codex says otherwise, bow down to your technological superiors peasants.


new website NO FAQ @ 2014/04/10 12:23:59


Post by: Voodoo_Chile


Paladins, Nob Bikers etc are characters again.
Look Out Sir to any model you like.
Powerfield Generators work from within vehicles again.
KFF provides vehicles with a 4+ cover save.
Abaddon can now suffer Spawndom or Princehood.
Nightscythes lose Invasion Beam

There are probably dozens of straight changes that have now technically reverted.


new website NO FAQ @ 2014/04/10 12:24:37


Post by: Grimtuff


 Ravenous D wrote:
Tactical_Genius wrote:
Missile drones...


Tau digital codex says otherwise, bow down to your technological superiors peasants.


So we're going back to the brave new (old) world of the 3.5 CSM codex, where there were 4(?) versions in circulation at one time.

Welcome to the Thunderdome people!


new website NO FAQ @ 2014/04/10 12:25:23


Post by: ausYenLoWang


 Ravenous D wrote:
Tactical_Genius wrote:
Missile drones...


Tau digital codex says otherwise, bow down to your technological superiors peasants.


as i said it becomes a rules paradox, which is the legit rules, digi or print? both "cant" be right... blah GW... it was bad enough as it was...


new website NO FAQ @ 2014/04/10 12:28:07


Post by: hands_miranda


 Ravenous D wrote:
Tactical_Genius wrote:
Missile drones...


Tau digital codex says otherwise, bow down to your technological superiors peasants.


So are we at the point where paper copies of your book are no longer going to be usable? Sounds like you have a mess for most players, never mind the stab in the back that is to LGSes since that's one more product they have that's now garbage.

And as an aside, is there a version number on the ePub versions of the book? I can't find one, so I can't really be sure that the ePub codexes I have are the newest version. Not even trying to play devil's advocate, just pointing out you have a situation that's at least as bad as the old CSM codex (when you had something like 3 different versions of Oblits in different printings and no markings to tell them apart)


new website NO FAQ @ 2014/04/10 12:29:12


Post by: Ravenous D


 ausYenLoWang wrote:
 Ravenous D wrote:
Tactical_Genius wrote:
Missile drones...


Tau digital codex says otherwise, bow down to your technological superiors peasants.


as i said it becomes a rules paradox, which is the legit rules, digi or print? both "cant" be right... blah GW... it was bad enough as it was...


Yeah its literally Armageddon for the game if the FAQs aren't put in place. It means GW has officially given up on trying to help us out in the slightest. It also means that the books are made flawed and you aren't getting any support for the price tag.


new website NO FAQ @ 2014/04/10 12:30:15


Post by: Grimtuff


"This is great news!"


new website NO FAQ @ 2014/04/10 12:30:55


Post by: Squidmanlolz


No FAQs?


To be fair, they haven't posted a new one in such a long time, they probably just said, "feth it..." and gave up altogether.


new website NO FAQ @ 2014/04/10 12:33:37


Post by: Ravenous D


 Grimtuff wrote:
 Ravenous D wrote:
Tactical_Genius wrote:
Missile drones...


Tau digital codex says otherwise, bow down to your technological superiors peasants.


So we're going back to the brave new (old) world of the 3.5 CSM codex, where there were 4(?) versions in circulation at one time.

Welcome to the Thunderdome people!


Except iPad users are the righty-est because they have the closest thing to a link to GW.


new website NO FAQ @ 2014/04/10 12:34:55


Post by: WarOne


I think GW just said "Community, get feth yourself. We're not here to give you free rule interpretations. We're here to make models, take your money, and then make up gak about the models in that order. I don't see where we are supposed to give you free rule interpretations. In fact, we've done such a good job outsourcing communication of the hobby to our lawyers, you don't even know ahead of time we made a new website (internet rumor sites don't exist of course, nor internal leaks) or whether free rule interpretations are ever coming back, so in short, go on our website and order our stuff for full price. We'll also toss in an updated model of an old miniature just to show you how much we have changed (read: not at all)."


new website NO FAQ @ 2014/04/10 12:38:59


Post by: Ravenous D


 WarOne wrote:
I think GW just said "Community, get feth yourself. We're not here to give you free rule interpretations. We're here to make models, take your money, and then make up gak about the models in that order. I don't see where we are supposed to give you free rule interpretations. In fact, we've done such a good job outsourcing communication of the hobby to our lawyers, you don't even know ahead of time we made a new website (internet rumor sites don't exist of course, nor internal leaks) or whether free rule interpretations are ever coming back, so in short, go on our website and order our stuff for full price. We'll also toss in an updated model of an old miniature just you how much we have changed (read: not at all)."


Watch them sue the first site that tries hosting FAQs



new website NO FAQ @ 2014/04/10 12:48:57


Post by: Trickstick


 Ravenous D wrote:
Tactical_Genius wrote:
Missile drones...


Tau digital codex says otherwise, bow down to your technological superiors peasants.


Only one way to solve the digital vs print argument, fight it out! One side gets to use Ipads as weapons, the other gets to use hard backed books. Let's see who wins...


new website NO FAQ @ 2014/04/10 13:05:34


Post by: Scipio Africanus


I found one, do I get a cookie?

Remember kids, this is the internet. Just like that embarrassing photo you uploaded to the ol' instagram, FAQs are on the internet forever.


Google your book and the word FAQ, and you should find what you seek.

Tried it with tau book, didn't seem to work. Salvage what we can, children of the circle of the players of the game that makes sense, find those old downloaded versions and harbour them in safety!




new website NO FAQ @ 2014/04/10 13:09:20


Post by: CthuluIsSpy


 Scipio Africanus wrote:
I found one, do I get a cookie?

Remember kids, this is the internet. Just like that embarrassing photo you uploaded to the ol' instagram, FAQs are on the internet forever.


Google your book and the word FAQ, and you should find what you seek.

Tried it with tau book, didn't seem to work. Salvage what we can, children of the circle of the players of the game that makes sense, find those old downloaded versions and harbour them in safety!




I found Expunged data, that's what the link gives me.
So you get nothing! Good day sir!


new website NO FAQ @ 2014/04/10 13:09:57


Post by: insaniak


 ausYenLoWang wrote:
ok so as above, With the new website the FAQ and errata are gone, may be temporary, may be permanent...

What to do What to do....

Carry on using the current FAQs until there is a decent reason to stop?

The fact that an FAQ is no longer being offered for download on their website doesn't mean that all those people who already have a copy of it should just burn it and forget it exists.


new website NO FAQ @ 2014/04/10 13:10:28


Post by: Scipio Africanus


 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
 Scipio Africanus wrote:
I found one, do I get a cookie?

Remember kids, this is the internet. Just like that embarrassing photo you uploaded to the ol' instagram, FAQs are on the internet forever.


Google your book and the word FAQ, and you should find what you seek.

Tried it with tau book, didn't seem to work. Salvage what we can, children of the circle of the players of the game that makes sense, find those old downloaded versions and harbour them in safety!




I found Expunged data, that's what the link gives me.
So you get nothing! Good day sir!


It worked for me...


new website NO FAQ @ 2014/04/10 13:26:34


Post by: sarduka42


 insaniak wrote:
 ausYenLoWang wrote:
ok so as above, With the new website the FAQ and errata are gone, may be temporary, may be permanent...

What to do What to do....

Carry on using the current FAQs until there is a decent reason to stop?

The fact that an FAQ is no longer being offered for download on their website doesn't mean that all those people who already have a copy of it should just burn it and forget it exists.


This could be a problem for new players or for players who don't get much gaming time. Being a new player, if you advised me of a rule that was updated in a FAQ, I would have no authoritative source to check if your faq was correct - It could be a work of fiction for all I know (yes I've seen that done before)


new website NO FAQ @ 2014/04/10 13:35:44


Post by: jay_mo


I have an answer for you guys I think. Take a look at the new electronic edition of a codex. Quoted from the description of the new Necron Codex iBook:

"This expanded Codex includes interactive miniatures galleries, lavish colour artwork, and updated rules to match the latest edition of Warhammer 40,000."

So, you want the updated rules? Gotta give Apple som money too! =)


new website NO FAQ @ 2014/04/10 13:38:57


Post by: thundering


Does anyone have an archive of the FAQs? This is really problematic, given that I was planning on starting a Grey Knights army, and they have substantial FAQs.


new website NO FAQ @ 2014/04/10 13:39:30


Post by: viewfinder


stop. just stop. if you have nothing tonsay but GW whines, stop.


new website NO FAQ @ 2014/04/10 13:40:48


Post by: CthuluIsSpy


So we are not meant to show our displeasure at the FAQs vanishing?


new website NO FAQ @ 2014/04/10 13:43:40


Post by: sarduka42


 viewfinder wrote:
stop. just stop. if you have nothing tonsay but GW whines, stop.


My suggestion is that if you don't like what we're discussing here the simply close this thread and read something else.


new website NO FAQ @ 2014/04/10 13:44:25


Post by: DanielBeaver


I can't imagine this is more than a temporary glitch. They sell a lot of product that only has 5th edition rules and no digital version (Blood Angels, Dark Eldar)


new website NO FAQ @ 2014/04/10 13:56:27


Post by: Lansirill


 DanielBeaver wrote:
I can't imagine this is more than a temporary glitch. They sell a lot of product that only has 5th edition rules and no digital version (Blood Angels, Dark Eldar)


They're still selling models that are (rumored) to no longer be in the game in about 36 hours. 'They don't give a damn.' is a fairly reasonable assumption to make when it comes to GW.

I am genuinely curious how to play the game now though. I don't see any reason to use the FAQs anymore. Honestly I never downloaded the things because I didn't want to have to deal with keeping everything up to date, I'd just look things up on occasion. I'm going to download the bunch from a wayback link, but I think a person can be entirely reasonable about ignoring FAQs at this point.


new website NO FAQ @ 2014/04/10 14:02:08


Post by: shamikebab


 DanielBeaver wrote:
I can't imagine this is more than a temporary glitch. They sell a lot of product that only has 5th edition rules and no digital version (Blood Angels, Dark Eldar)


The way I see it there are 4 options.

1. They're clueless, don't realise what they've deleted and how important they were.
2. it's a mistake and the faqs will be added to the site again in the coming weeks (months....years)
3. They're going to switch to Digital only rules so they don't need the faqs any more
4. They're going to release digital faqs for free or not.

Obviously some of those options are better than others...


new website NO FAQ @ 2014/04/10 14:02:23


Post by: ausYenLoWang


 Lansirill wrote:
 DanielBeaver wrote:
I can't imagine this is more than a temporary glitch. They sell a lot of product that only has 5th edition rules and no digital version (Blood Angels, Dark Eldar)


They're still selling models that are (rumored) to no longer be in the game in about 36 hours. 'They don't give a damn.' is a fairly reasonable assumption to make when it comes to GW.

I am genuinely curious how to play the game now though. I don't see any reason to use the FAQs anymore. Honestly I never downloaded the things because I didn't want to have to deal with keeping everything up to date, I'd just look things up on occasion. I'm going to download the bunch from a wayback link, but I think a person can be entirely reasonable about ignoring FAQs at this point.


What models are they dropping from the game?


new website NO FAQ @ 2014/04/10 14:04:29


Post by: viewfinder


so this isn't really a YMDC thread, it's more of another excuse to post a GW sucks thread?


new website NO FAQ @ 2014/04/10 14:07:19


Post by: Tactical_Genius


 viewfinder wrote:
so this isn't really a YMDC thread, it's more of another excuse to post a GW sucks thread?

The way I see it, it's a thread about the rules effects of the deletion, along with appropriate discussion?
If you don't like it, don't read it?


new website NO FAQ @ 2014/04/10 14:07:46


Post by: ausYenLoWang


 viewfinder wrote:
so this isn't really a YMDC thread, it's more of another excuse to post a GW sucks thread?


NO this is a thread based on the rules situation thats going to arise from the now lack of GW FAQ... so it belongs in YMDC.

and people have been making their call


Automatically Appended Next Post:
Tactical_Genius wrote:
 viewfinder wrote:
so this isn't really a YMDC thread, it's more of another excuse to post a GW sucks thread?

The way I see it, it's a thread about the rules effects of the deletion, along with appropriate discussion?
If you don't like it, don't read it?


agreed.


new website NO FAQ @ 2014/04/10 14:17:20


Post by: Icculus


Well the link on the site may be down, but the FAQs are still up. you just have to do a search for them.

http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m3180056a_Imperial_Guard_v1.3_APRIL13.pdf


new website NO FAQ @ 2014/04/10 14:18:45


Post by: ausYenLoWang


 Icculus wrote:
Well the link on the site may be down, but the FAQs are still up. you just have to do a search for them.

http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m3180056a_Imperial_Guard_v1.3_APRIL13.pdf


nope... thats the only one thats loaded, the CSM or others i have tried eldar tau and one other all come up as page errors, but even then:

ARE they considered an official FAQ if no longer on the main website etc etc?


new website NO FAQ @ 2014/04/10 14:20:20


Post by: CthuluIsSpy


 ausYenLoWang wrote:
 Icculus wrote:
Well the link on the site may be down, but the FAQs are still up. you just have to do a search for them.

http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m3180056a_Imperial_Guard_v1.3_APRIL13.pdf


nope... thats the only one thats loaded, the CSM or others i have tried eldar tau and one other all come up as page errors, but even then:

ARE they considered an official FAQ if no longer on the main website etc etc?


Of course they are official FAQ. They are still the latest version of the rules.
It's just that no one can access them.


new website NO FAQ @ 2014/04/10 14:21:08


Post by: shamikebab


 Icculus wrote:
Well the link on the site may be down, but the FAQs are still up. you just have to do a search for them.

http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m3180056a_Imperial_Guard_v1.3_APRIL13.pdf


Only if they are already in your cache.


new website NO FAQ @ 2014/04/10 14:21:20


Post by: Icculus


 ausYenLoWang wrote:
 Icculus wrote:
Well the link on the site may be down, but the FAQs are still up. you just have to do a search for them.

http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m3180056a_Imperial_Guard_v1.3_APRIL13.pdf


nope... thats the only one thats loaded, the CSM or others i have tried eldar tau and one other all come up as page errors, but even then:

ARE they considered an official FAQ if no longer on the main website etc etc?


Well that's kin odf a coincidence. The one I had saved is the only one that works. And it's also obsolete in a couple days.


new website NO FAQ @ 2014/04/10 14:24:25


Post by: Scipio Africanus


 Icculus wrote:
 ausYenLoWang wrote:
 Icculus wrote:
Well the link on the site may be down, but the FAQs are still up. you just have to do a search for them.

http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m3180056a_Imperial_Guard_v1.3_APRIL13.pdf


nope... thats the only one thats loaded, the CSM or others i have tried eldar tau and one other all come up as page errors, but even then:

ARE they considered an official FAQ if no longer on the main website etc etc?


Well that's kin odf a coincidence. The one I had saved is the only one that works. And it's also obsolete in a couple days.


I went to guard as well. Curious.


new website NO FAQ @ 2014/04/10 14:27:53


Post by: ausYenLoWang


 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
 ausYenLoWang wrote:
 Icculus wrote:
Well the link on the site may be down, but the FAQs are still up. you just have to do a search for them.

http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m3180056a_Imperial_Guard_v1.3_APRIL13.pdf


nope... thats the only one thats loaded, the CSM or others i have tried eldar tau and one other all come up as page errors, but even then:

ARE they considered an official FAQ if no longer on the main website etc etc?


Of course they are official FAQ. They are still the latest version of the rules.
It's just that no one can access them.


how so i ask.
they are no longer supplied by the manufacturer, so in this case they are obsolete. they WERE the latest but now the latest is NO FAQ.

dont get me wrong here its bloody daft, BUT thats how it looks


new website NO FAQ @ 2014/04/10 14:29:36


Post by: Rorschach9


 Icculus wrote:
Well the link on the site may be down, but the FAQs are still up. you just have to do a search for them.

http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m3180056a_Imperial_Guard_v1.3_APRIL13.pdf


Records expunged.



new website NO FAQ @ 2014/04/10 14:35:48


Post by: Kain


You know if they did this 10 days ago it would have been hilarious, but now it's just mystifying.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
 Voodoo_Chile wrote:
Paladins, Nob Bikers etc are characters again.
Look Out Sir to any model you like.
Powerfield Generators work from within vehicles again.
KFF provides vehicles with a 4+ cover save.
Abaddon can now suffer Spawndom or Princehood.
Nightscythes lose Invasion Beam

There are probably dozens of straight changes that have now technically reverted.

You know what this means?

COOOOOIIIIIINNNNN TTTTOOOOOOSSSSSSSSS!!!!


Automatically Appended Next Post:
 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
 Kain wrote:
I foresee madness in the future.


Scarabs and Missile Drones. Scarabs and Missile drones everywhere.

Soon every group will be playing by assorted house rules and vassal games will be decided by who can win the most 4+ to decide on rules rolls.

Someone will then argue that fateweaver's reroll can be used to apply to said rule; and so begins the meta-meta-game.


new website NO FAQ @ 2014/04/10 14:45:08


Post by: sirlynchmob


Orks & fliers

release the flying squigs
grabbin klaws, boarding planks, and wreakin balls. Oh My

Tis the Orks of OZ where all nobz are characters


new website NO FAQ @ 2014/04/10 14:51:45


Post by: Krellnus


Well, at least the Heldrake isn't eating chilli before a game.


new website NO FAQ @ 2014/04/10 14:55:02


Post by: sarduka42


 ausYenLoWang wrote:
 viewfinder wrote:
so this isn't really a YMDC thread, it's more of another excuse to post a GW sucks thread?


NO this is a thread based on the rules situation thats going to arise from the now lack of GW FAQ... so it belongs in YMDC.

and people have been making their call


Automatically Appended Next Post:
Tactical_Genius wrote:
 viewfinder wrote:
so this isn't really a YMDC thread, it's more of another excuse to post a GW sucks thread?

The way I see it, it's a thread about the rules effects of the deletion, along with appropriate discussion?
If you don't like it, don't read it?


agreed.


Yep Agreed,


new website NO FAQ @ 2014/04/10 15:26:10


Post by: ClockworkZion


 Krellnus wrote:
Well, at least the Heldrake isn't eating chilli before a game.

But Codex: Missile Drones is back on.


new website NO FAQ @ 2014/04/10 15:36:12


Post by: Experiment 626


Well, at least my Burning Chariot didn't get any worse than it already was!

On the other hand, there goes any thought of adding in an allied Zombie horde or Noise Marines...


new website NO FAQ @ 2014/04/10 15:37:31


Post by: sirlynchmob


Oh, no more limiting wound allocations to the range of the weapons in a unit



new website NO FAQ @ 2014/04/10 15:39:48


Post by: PotentiallyLethal


 sarduka42 wrote:
 viewfinder wrote:
stop. just stop. if you have nothing tonsay but GW whines, stop.


My suggestion is that if you don't like what we're discussing here the simply close this thread and read something else.


ah but where would the anti-whinger whingers whinge?


new website NO FAQ @ 2014/04/10 15:48:06


Post by: ClockworkZion


GW customer service is finally starting to send out replies about this:

GW Customer Service wrote:Thanks for writing in to us! We are aware that the new web store launched without the Errata/ FAQ articles. This is only temporary and these FAQ's will be made available again in the very near future. However, at this time I don’t have a time or date available. Should you have any other questions, then please give us a call at 1-800-394-4263.

Sorry for the confusion, but I hope this helps.


new website NO FAQ @ 2014/04/10 16:20:26


Post by: Steelmage99


 ClockworkZion wrote:
GW customer service is finally starting to send out replies about this:

GW Customer Service wrote:Thanks for writing in to us! We are aware that the new web store launched without the Errata/ FAQ articles. This is only temporary and these FAQ's will be made available again in the very near future. However, at this time I don’t have a time or date available. Should you have any other questions, then please give us a call at 1-800-394-4263.

Sorry for the confusion, but I hope this helps.


I´ll be the first to say that I don't believe them for a second. I think they are outright lying.

Put up or shut up, GW!


new website NO FAQ @ 2014/04/10 16:21:47


Post by: Ghaz


Hopefully they will be new FAQs


new website NO FAQ @ 2014/04/10 16:46:17


Post by: Dozer Blades


And free product too.


new website NO FAQ @ 2014/04/10 17:27:04


Post by: Jaceevoke


 ClockworkZion wrote:
GW customer service is finally starting to send out replies about this:

GW Customer Service wrote:Thanks for writing in to us! We are aware that the new web store launched without the Errata/ FAQ articles. This is only temporary and these FAQ's will be made available again in the very near future. However, at this time I don’t have a time or date available. Should you have any other questions, then please give us a call at 1-800-394-4263.

Sorry for the confusion, but I hope this helps.


I really hope this is true, but can't help but feel that this is akin to the rules questions & answers that you could email GW about. If it is then I'm going to have to pirate a digital version of the necron codex, because I am not going to buy the same codex twice. Until then my scythes will be fast skimmers again.


new website NO FAQ @ 2014/04/10 17:32:48


Post by: Nilok


So until GW can get the new FAQs up, people with the physical Tau Codex can play Missile Drone Spam while people with the digital Tau Codex can't.

Which tactic/version is better?
To the tabletop! FIGHT!


new website NO FAQ @ 2014/04/10 17:42:11


Post by: Hollismason


It's not like they retroactively vanished from existence, there are several people who have access to them.

Just because it's not accessible right now doesn't mean it doesn't apply. If you have printedout the faqs you have them.

If you have a offsite access (which people have already posted) . You have them.

GW didn't reverse time and make those faqs no longer apply.


new website NO FAQ @ 2014/04/10 17:58:25


Post by: Nilok


Hollismason wrote:
It's not like they retroactively vanished from existence, there are several people who have access to them.

Just because it's not accessible right now doesn't mean it doesn't apply. If you have printedout the faqs you have them.

If you have a offsite access (which people have already posted) . You have them.

GW didn't reverse time and make those faqs no longer apply.


To be fair, the same could be said for older FAQs/other removed items.

I have no doubt that GW will put up an FAQ page (or be forced to do so) so it shouldn't be like this for long, though technically with no current official FAQ there is none. As stated earlier, people have seen people forging FAQ entries and there is currently no way to verify their FAQ.


new website NO FAQ @ 2014/04/10 18:04:25


Post by: Hollismason


If you are forging GW faqs, then you need help.

There are plenty of places off site to get the faqs, I am so unconcerned with worrying my opponent is forging rules. Like what.

The Faqs still apply and people know what has been FAQed. By that logic until my Necron FAQ is officially on the GW website all of my Fliers are Skimmers now.


new website NO FAQ @ 2014/04/10 18:18:00


Post by: sirlynchmob


Hollismason wrote:
If you are forging GW faqs, then you need help.

There are plenty of places off site to get the faqs, I am so unconcerned with worrying my opponent is forging rules. Like what.

The Faqs still apply and people know what has been FAQed. By that logic until my Necron FAQ is officially on the GW website all of my Fliers are Skimmers now.


but people don't know what's been faq'd. questions come up here, that are easily answered in a faq.

For fliers, we can at least consult 'death from the skies' for the most current rules on them.

I'm sure we'll have faq's again by monday, so for the weekend, enjoy the chaos


new website NO FAQ @ 2014/04/10 18:26:51


Post by: TheKbob


 Kain wrote:
Someone will then argue that fateweaver's reroll can be used to apply to said rule; and so begins the meta-meta-game.


No wait, can you?

It's a dice roll in the rulebook. What about Brother Corbulo's one dice reroll per game?

I like where this is going...


new website NO FAQ @ 2014/04/10 18:32:19


Post by: Wulfmar


Keep calm and go to:

http://www.teambelgium.eu/?p=5769


You're welcome ^^


new website NO FAQ @ 2014/04/10 18:53:24


Post by: Nilok


 Wulfmar wrote:
Keep calm and go to:

http://www.teambelgium.eu/?p=5769


You're welcome ^^

GW's temporary FAQ site looks really cheap.


new website NO FAQ @ 2014/04/10 19:09:11


Post by: TheKbob


 Nilok wrote:
 Wulfmar wrote:
Keep calm and go to:

http://www.teambelgium.eu/?p=5769


You're welcome ^^

GW's temporary FAQ site looks really cheap.


Did you see their last financial report...?


new website NO FAQ @ 2014/04/10 20:36:12


Post by: JinxDragon


Never mind,
Did not realize I was responding to a front page post that has long since been corrected....


new website NO FAQ @ 2014/04/10 22:48:42


Post by: ninjafiredragon


Well never mind then


new website NO FAQ @ 2014/04/11 03:59:36


Post by: ausYenLoWang


This is the respponse to my question on my local GW stores page.

You may have noticed there are no FaQ's on our fantastic new Webstore. This is only temporary and these FAQ's will be made available again in the very near future. We will let you know where and when these will be hosted very soon.


new website NO FAQ @ 2014/04/11 04:02:02


Post by: viewfinder


 ausYenLoWang wrote:
This is the respponse to my question on my local GW stores page.

You may have noticed there are no FaQ's on our fantastic new Webstore. This is only temporary and these FAQ's will be made available again in the very near future. We will let you know where and when these will be hosted very soon.


so... asked and answered?


new website NO FAQ @ 2014/04/11 12:40:15


Post by: Trickstick


I would love to know if anyone is really going to pull the "faqs aren't official any more so <insert craziness>" in an actual game. It is a fun thing to joke about but why would people do that? It just seems silly.


new website NO FAQ @ 2014/04/11 13:00:18


Post by: Mr Morden


 viewfinder wrote:
 ausYenLoWang wrote:
This is the respponse to my question on my local GW stores page.

You may have noticed there are no FaQ's on our fantastic new Webstore. This is only temporary and these FAQ's will be made available again in the very near future. We will let you know where and when these will be hosted very soon.


so... asked and answered?


as the OP - yes and no

My original point on my similar thread was if GW, as seems the case, are not going to bother than whats the alternative - talking to friends they said there is a much more organised response to the evolving WFB rules - I don't know much about this - but its not really present in 40k and there does seem to be resistance to looking at the problem areas.

Lastly - we have had some email responses (nothing to mine to customer services) saying it should be going back up at some point - but nothing yet...............and zero on when / if we are ever getting new FAQs for instance for all the recent codexes................


new website NO FAQ @ 2014/04/11 14:26:50


Post by: Lamo


 Wulfmar wrote:
Keep calm and go to:

http://www.teambelgium.eu/?p=57


You're welcome ^^


You are a god lol, I have a tournament tomorrow and didn't have any of the stupid faqs.

On a side note if these faqs are gone forever, I'm gona have a fit cus i just got three heldrakes (last one got here yesterday) and they aren't even good without the one line in the faq...


new website NO FAQ @ 2014/04/11 14:58:35


Post by: Co'tor Shas


Until them I can spam missile drones, WAHAHAHAHAA!

Actually, someone probably will.


new website NO FAQ @ 2014/04/11 16:06:49


Post by: Roci


Here is the response I got to my email.



"Thanks for writing in to us! We are aware that the new web store launched without the Errata/ FAQ articles. This is only temporary and these FAQ's will be made available again in the very near future. However, at this time I don’t have a time or date available. Should you have any other questions, then please give us a call at 1-800-394-4263."


new website NO FAQ @ 2014/04/11 16:09:51


Post by: Ravenous D


 Co'tor Shas wrote:
Until them I can spam missile drones, WAHAHAHAHAA!

Actually, someone probably will.


Nope, the iPad tau dexes disallow this. So now there is multiple versions of the rules. You want up to date rules? Buy digital peasants!


new website NO FAQ @ 2014/04/11 17:12:35


Post by: ClockworkZion


 Ravenous D wrote:
 Co'tor Shas wrote:
Until them I can spam missile drones, WAHAHAHAHAA!

Actually, someone probably will.


Nope, the iPad tau dexes disallow this. So now there is multiple versions of the rules. You want up to date rules? Buy digital peasants!

So I can intentionally use the hard copy Tau codex to give myself an advantage then?


new website NO FAQ @ 2014/04/11 17:58:30


Post by: Co'tor Shas


I don't see why not .


new website NO FAQ @ 2014/04/11 18:01:53


Post by: hands_miranda


 ClockworkZion wrote:
 Ravenous D wrote:
 Co'tor Shas wrote:
Until them I can spam missile drones, WAHAHAHAHAA!

Actually, someone probably will.


Nope, the iPad tau dexes disallow this. So now there is multiple versions of the rules. You want up to date rules? Buy digital peasants!

So I can intentionally use the hard copy Tau codex to give myself an advantage then?


And not to be too solipsistic, how are we sure that the e-version is the most up to date? We all know that the e-version is, but how do you actually show it? This gets doubly hard with the epubs, since there's no guarantee that the printing on a print codex isn't newer than the epub version. The whole thing is designed to be a giant mess until they get the FAQs back up, hopefully with some of the newer books fixed too.


new website NO FAQ @ 2014/04/11 18:02:46


Post by: ClockworkZion


hands_miranda wrote:
 ClockworkZion wrote:
 Ravenous D wrote:
 Co'tor Shas wrote:
Until them I can spam missile drones, WAHAHAHAHAA!

Actually, someone probably will.


Nope, the iPad tau dexes disallow this. So now there is multiple versions of the rules. You want up to date rules? Buy digital peasants!

So I can intentionally use the hard copy Tau codex to give myself an advantage then?


And not to be too solipsistic, how are we sure that the e-version is the most up to date? We all know that the e-version is, but how do you actually show it? This gets doubly hard with the epubs, since there's no guarantee that the printing on a print codex isn't newer than the epub version. The whole thing is designed to be a giant mess until they get the FAQs back up, hopefully with some of the newer books fixed too.

As of about December GW Digital Editions is putting an "Updated" date on the last page of the codex.


new website NO FAQ @ 2014/04/11 20:05:50


Post by: DJGietzen


US customer service has stated the FAQ section will return "shortly" but could not provide any more specific information. So, I'm going to guess August 2014


new website NO FAQ @ 2014/04/11 20:22:28


Post by: Nilok


 DJGietzen wrote:
US customer service has stated the FAQ section will return "shortly" but could not provide any more specific information. So, I'm going to guess August 2014


At least they didn't say Soon(tm)


new website NO FAQ @ 2014/04/11 21:32:37


Post by: Idolator


Did the FAQ's have dates or versions on them? This could cause a few issues if they let their FAQ support die.

Guys will be running around with different versions. I don't remember if there were dates or versions, I quit printing them out a long time ago as it was easy to look them up on my mobile device.


new website NO FAQ @ 2014/04/11 22:43:08


Post by: sirlynchmob


 Idolator wrote:
Did the FAQ's have dates or versions on them? This could cause a few issues if they let their FAQ support die.

Guys will be running around with different versions. I don't remember if there were dates or versions, I quit printing them out a long time ago as it was easy to look them up on my mobile device.


they have the date on the file name, and the version number on the first page


new website NO FAQ @ 2014/04/11 23:20:03


Post by: nutty_nutter


sirlynchmob wrote:
 Idolator wrote:
Did the FAQ's have dates or versions on them? This could cause a few issues if they let their FAQ support die.

Guys will be running around with different versions. I don't remember if there were dates or versions, I quit printing them out a long time ago as it was easy to look them up on my mobile device.


they have the date on the file name, and the version number on the first page


which is all well and good, but you have no verifiable source with which to confirm nor deny the FAQ's legitimacy. as such they are all invalidated (technically) until GW either put them back up, or make it clear that it isn't going to happen.

personally I advocate calm and let them do what they need to do, in the intrum, you should have the basics of how the game functions, use the most important rule and have some fun for a little bit


new website NO FAQ @ 2014/04/12 03:19:53


Post by: Leth


I am going to laugh if they release a massive FAQ update when they put it back up....

That would be so awesome actually....


new website NO FAQ @ 2014/04/12 03:30:16


Post by: viewfinder


 Leth wrote:
I am going to laugh if they release a massive FAQ update when they put it back up....

That would be so awesome actually....


and there would still be people screaming about that...


new website NO FAQ @ 2014/04/12 03:42:23


Post by: WarOne


 viewfinder wrote:
 Leth wrote:
I am going to laugh if they release a massive FAQ update when they put it back up....

That would be so awesome actually....


and there would still be people screaming about that...


And they forget some major ones like Missile Drone allotment and recosting the Helbrute.


new website NO FAQ @ 2014/04/12 03:58:37


Post by: Leth


Nah, heldrake was 100% fine before they faqed it to a turret. If they tone it back or set it to like 90 degrees front cone it will be fine.


new website NO FAQ @ 2014/04/12 04:05:01


Post by: insaniak


 viewfinder wrote:

and there would still be people screaming about that...

Very few players ever complained about GW releasing FAQs. Its the lack of them, or the inclusion of 'clarifications' that are actually changes that irritates people.



new website NO FAQ @ 2014/04/12 04:07:03


Post by: viewfinder


 insaniak wrote:
 viewfinder wrote:

and there would still be people screaming about that...

Very few players ever complained about GW releasing FAQs. Its the lack of them, or the inclusion of 'clarifications' that are actually changes that irritates people.



guess you missed the endless "GW can't proofread" complaints evertime an FAQ comes out? or when one doesn't come out the "GW hates this army"?


new website NO FAQ @ 2014/04/12 04:11:03


Post by: insaniak


Yes, people complain about the necessity of FAQs that results from GW's lack of quality control. Not about FAQs bring released when they are required.

There's a distinction there, but given your apparent need to brand the entire forum as mindless GW haters, I don't expect you to see it.


new website NO FAQ @ 2014/04/14 15:18:23


Post by: Leth


It seems like I might be on the money

http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2014/04/40k-wfb-fate-of-faqs.html


new website NO FAQ @ 2014/04/14 15:48:10


Post by: chanceafs




Sounds promising... I'm not gonna hold my breath, but I certainly hope that the GW people who work on updating all the faqs spend some time on forums such as this to find the biggest holes that require plugging... a search of topics that run 3 pages or more should do the trick...


new website NO FAQ @ 2014/04/14 15:53:37


Post by: ClockworkZion



Yup. Customer Service has been emailing that out since Saturday.


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chanceafs wrote:


Sounds promising... I'm not gonna hold my breath, but I certainly hope that the GW people who work on updating all the faqs spend some time on forums such as this to find the biggest holes that require plugging... a search of topics that run 3 pages or more should do the trick...

They won't do that. They have an FAQ email for that reason.