Fafnir wrote: I think the more important thing to wonder is how the hell are children allowed to use twitter?
Seriously? You're amazed that 14 year olds are living on twitter/facebook/insta-who-gives-a-crap and all those other "socially parent my child for me please" sites?!
It's 2014, my cousin who's now a 9th grade math teacher had to ban cell phones when he was still substitute teaching a class of 3rd graders for feth's sake!
It may sound old and outdated, but I for one firmly believe that children shouldn't be allowed to use public social media, at least not without adult supervision, because children say really stupid gak, and then stuff like that happens.
A 14-year-old Dutch girl who threatened a terrorist attack in a tweet to American Airlines was arrested in Rotterdam on Monday — but that didn't stop a copycat from tweeting a similar threat to another airline.
A Twitter user named "Sarah" wrote on Twitter over the weekend that she was a member of Al Qaeda and that she would "do something really big."
The threat was apparently meant as a joke, but American Airlines wasn't laughing.
The airline tweeted: "Sarah, we take these threats very seriously. Your IP address and details will be forwarded to security and the FBI."
American also issued a statement, saying “At American, the safety of our passengers and crew is our number one priority. We take security matters very seriously and work with authorities on a case by case basis.”
"Sarah" quickly backtracked, saying she was a 14-year-old white girl who made the whole thing up.
“I’m so sorry I’m scared now,” she responded to American Airlines on Twitter. “I was joking and it was my friend not me, take her IP address not mine.”
The girl then spent hours on Sunday trying to explain the tweet and beg for forgiveness.
“I’m just a fangirl pls I don’t have evil thoughts and plus I’m a white girl," she tweeted.
She also pleaded: "I was kidding pls don't I'm just a girl pls."
In other rambling tweet she wrote "and I'm not from Afghanistan."
Authorities have apparently not accepted her apology or explanation.
"We're not in a state that we can communicate any state of charges at this point," Dutch police spokesperson Wessel Stole told Business Insider. "We just thought it was necessary to bring this out mostly because of the fact that it caused a great deal of interest on the Internet."
Despite her arrest, others didn't get the message.
Another Twitter user sent a threat to Southwest Airlines, which responded Monday by saying: "The safety of our customers and employees is our top priority. Your info had been given to the appropriate authorities." The user later tweeted it was a joke.
Don't make fake terrorist threats and you won't have any problems, I would think. There are better, and less actionable, pranks out there.
TheCustomLime wrote: I like how she says "I'm just a girl" as a defense. As if only guys can do these things.
Only men are bad, that's just science.
It's like you don't even listen to the feminists Lime!
Yeah Lime, everyone knows that the only people who can do wrong a straight, white upperclass men. I mean look at them, blaming the 3rd World for all these attacks obviously caused by other straight, white upperclass men. That and oppressing females by having the audacity to say they are aiming for equality!
But OT, how stupid do you have to be... I mean seriously. Most the idiots around her supposed age I have the, er.. 'honour' of being acquaintances with wouldn't do that.Actaul, wait that may not be true...
Still, if you even think for a second that this is a good idea something is messed with you...
Normally I'd roll my eyes and consider this stupid and a waste of everyone's time for overreacting to something flippant a stupid kid said online.
Given who it was directed at this time though, I still do, but it's the stupid kid I blame, not society. I guess I still blame society, but not in the way previously inferred.
...whoever the victim is here, I hope I got them with the blame ray there.
I hate people that do "jokes" like this, a "friend" of mind kept writing "lol jihad" in facebook chat, although its not nearly the same it still got me so paranoid. This type of thing isnt funny at all. (Apart from seeing people doing such stupid things.) When she claimed "i wont do anything, i'm just a white girl". Yeah, really good defence.
I remember when I was a kid, before the internet was a thing, and the rumour was if you even said the word "bomb" at an airport you would get arrested. We'd all laugh our stupid fourteen year old laughs and talk about how we would see who could say "bomb" the loudest at an airport and get away with it.
Thank god I was a stupid kid before the internet was a thing.
feeder wrote: I remember when I was a kid, before the internet was a thing, and the rumour was if you even said the word "bomb" at an airport you would get arrested. We'd all laugh our stupid fourteen year old laughs and talk about how we would see who could say "bomb" the loudest at an airport and get away with it.
Thank god I was a stupid kid before the internet was a thing.
It's why i hated being 14. I think its true though.
feeder wrote: I remember when I was a kid, before the internet was a thing, and the rumour was if you even said the word "bomb" at an airport you would get arrested. We'd all laugh our stupid fourteen year old laughs and talk about how we would see who could say "bomb" the loudest at an airport and get away with it.
Thank god I was a stupid kid before the internet was a thing.
You probably would have gone through a similar ordeal if you yelled "bomb!" in an airport. If you ran when security showed up you would have made it worse.
We should remember nothing has really happened to this girl yet beyond a scare, so I don't see getting all up in a lather about it. If they press charges and she goes to court or is sentenced then it might be time to reevaluate, but as it is the only thing that has happened is being picked up and questioned, which is a good way to scare someone, but doesn't effect their life horribly.
feeder wrote: I remember when I was a kid, before the internet was a thing, and the rumour was if you even said the word "bomb" at an airport you would get arrested. We'd all laugh our stupid fourteen year old laughs and talk about how we would see who could say "bomb" the loudest at an airport and get away with it.
Thank god I was a stupid kid before the internet was a thing.
It's why i hated being 14, i think the type of humour is just annoying, i can't talk to, i guess ibmade awful "jokes" too, but never this stupid.I think its true though about the airport thing you said
Crablezworth wrote:Is taking a threat from a 14 year old "seriously" a good thing?
How old was the kid who just slashed up his school? How old were the Columbine guys?
None of them made jokes about what they were about to do though, they just did them. Comparing this to all the attacks that have actually happened in the past, making a tweet like this before hand is probably one of the biggest indications that the person is actually not serious about doing anything.
Crablezworth wrote: Is taking a threat from a 14 year old "seriously" a good thing?
Judging by all the #420BlazeIt #YOLO #FrackThaPoleece teenagers these days, you never know what crazy stuff they could be actually considering doing.
I do know that the ability to type is more common than the ability to carry out a terrorist attack, especially after warning the target. Taking too much seriously is just a make work project after a certain point.
Terrorism, like the internet is "serious" business it seems.
Frazzled wrote: Good. Put her under the jail and do it publicly. Alternatively sentence her to watch ALL the Rocky movies consecutively. That'll teach her.
Frazzled wrote: Good. Put her under the jail and do it publicly. Alternatively sentence her to watch ALL the Rocky movies consecutively. That'll teach her.
Frazzled wrote: Good. Put her under the jail and do it publicly. Alternatively sentence her to watch ALL the Rocky movies consecutively. That'll teach her.
Ugh. I'll take the jailtime, please.
She may accidentally learn boxing skills to back up all her terrorist experience, though.
Frazzled wrote: Good. Put her under the jail and do it publicly. Alternatively sentence her to watch ALL the Rocky movies consecutively. That'll teach her.
Ugh. I'll take the jailtime, please.
She may accidentally learn boxing skills to back up all her terrorist experience, though.
Well in the US we like for our prisons to make a better class of criminal.
Frazzled wrote: Good. Put her under the jail and do it publicly. Alternatively sentence her to watch ALL the Rocky movies consecutively. That'll teach her.
Ugh. I'll take the jailtime, please.
She may accidentally learn boxing skills to back up all her terrorist experience, though.
Well in the US we like for our prisons to make a better class of criminal.
Just in case in a new world order, the olypics now consist of prisoner fighters from all over the country. It's a fight to the death. And they want to bring honor to their nation. Prize isn't a medal, tis freedom!
Frazzled wrote: Good. Put her under the jail and do it publicly. Alternatively sentence her to watch ALL the Rocky movies consecutively. That'll teach her.
Ugh. I'll take the jailtime, please.
She may accidentally learn boxing skills to back up all her terrorist experience, though.
Well in the US we like for our prisons to make a better class of criminal.
We have the technology to implant such skills in our corrected criminals:
Girl is clearly dumb as hell, but arresting her seems a tad OTT. It's fairly obvious there is not actual threat here, just a typically adolescent lack of judgment.
Hordini wrote: None of them made jokes about what they were about to do though, they just did them. Comparing this to all the attacks that have actually happened in the past, making a tweet like this before hand is probably one of the biggest indications that the person is actually not serious about doing anything.
They wouldn't be jokes if they happened, so no, none of the people who warned other people - like the Columbine idiots - made jokes about shooting up the school. They made threats.
Plus sometimes an example needs to be made. If she was let off the hook because it was just a joke, more people would make the same joke, and that could greatly hinder tryng to spot the real threats.
Hordini wrote: None of them made jokes about what they were about to do though, they just did them. Comparing this to all the attacks that have actually happened in the past, making a tweet like this before hand is probably one of the biggest indications that the person is actually not serious about doing anything.
They wouldn't be jokes if they happened, so no, none of the people who warned other people - like the Columbine idiots - made jokes about shooting up the school. They made threats.
The warning signs for things like Columbine were different and a lot more significant than a ridiculous tweet claiming to be someone else from another country.
Kilkrazy wrote: I don't think you can just ignore public threats, even if they come from stupid young teenagers.
Hopefully the Dutch Police will give her a good talking to and her parents will cut back her computer access.
Further punishment seems excessive, though she may unfortunately end up on a No Fly list anyway.
I'm not saying they should completely ignore it, but they need to be careful that their response doesn't get out of hand. I more or less agree that a good talking to from the police would probably be enough, but much more than that would probably be more than is warranted.
Frazzled wrote: Good. Put her under the jail and do it publicly. Alternatively sentence her to watch ALL the Rocky movies consecutively. That'll teach her.
Ah man, don't dis the Rocky movies.
"What do you predict for tonights match Klubber?"
"PAIN."
-Klubber Lang.
Frazzled wrote: Good. Put her under the jail and do it publicly. Alternatively sentence her to watch ALL the Rocky movies consecutively. That'll teach her.
Ugh. I'll take the jailtime, please.
She may accidentally learn boxing skills to back up all her terrorist experience, though.
Well in the US we like for our prisons to make a better class of criminal.
Who says we don't lead the world in vocational training!
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LuciusAR wrote: Girl is clearly dumb as hell, but arresting her seems a tad OTT. It's fairly obvious there is not actual threat here, just a typically adolescent lack of judgment.
And thatsa why you drop the hammer. We're in it for the Species, People!
Yeah, this was pretty stupid of her but she's 14. When it comes to doing stupid gak being 14 is probably as a good an excuse as their is, given your brain is physically hardwired for "Do stupid gak." Nothing wrong with giving the kid a good rattling, a scare can certainly be a valuable learning experience.
Still with all the attention it's getting and the way things stick around on the internet it seems like this has a chance of following her around way longer than it really should.
Fafnir wrote: It may sound old and outdated, but I for one firmly believe that children shouldn't be allowed to use public social media, at least not without adult supervision, because children say really stupid gak, and then stuff like that happens.
It might be old and outdated, but I do the same thing for my children. But son who is 9 I allow on facebook occasionally to play games with his school friends, but after his timer goes off, it's time to do something constructive. I agree completely with your stance on the matter.
Considering that stuff like this has a tendency to follow you around forever, and that background checks for jobs are more intrusive than ever (and if you ever have a job in that will involve lots of public exposure, a single social misstep posted online can ruin your career), I'd say that it's not at all unreasonable, either.
"I'm just a fangirl!"......Really?Is she a fangirl of American airlines(who the hell is a fan of a company?) Or does she think "I'm just a person who likes Justin beiber you can't arrest me!"(note:If she does like Justin beiber she can be DOUBLE arrested.)
feeder wrote: I remember when I was a kid, before the internet was a thing, and the rumour was if you even said the word "bomb" at an airport you would get arrested. We'd all laugh our stupid fourteen year old laughs and talk about how we would see who could say "bomb" the loudest at an airport and get away with it.
Thank god I was a stupid kid before the internet was a thing.
You probably would have gone through a similar ordeal if you yelled "bomb!" in an airport. If you ran when security showed up you would have made it worse.
We should remember nothing has really happened to this girl yet beyond a scare, so I don't see getting all up in a lather about it. If they press charges and she goes to court or is sentenced then it might be time to reevaluate, but as it is the only thing that has happened is being picked up and questioned, which is a good way to scare someone, but doesn't effect their life horribly.
Oh-so-much this, scare the crap out of her, but if it ends up costing taxpayers money to prosecute and convict a 14 year old dutch girl for a threat that is obviously not serious and entirely empty of action, then something went wrong somewhere.
That being said, whenever I read stories like this, it makes me want to quit my job, go back to university to get a PhD is physics and get a research grant so I can develop portal technology, just so I can stick the orange portal in front of my face, the blue one on the back of my head, and then facepalm myself through the front, out the back, then reach around over the top of my head and back through to create some sort of space-time-continuum-bending non-terminating facepalm loop for the rest of eternity...
feeder wrote: I remember when I was a kid, before the internet was a thing, and the rumour was if you even said the word "bomb" at an airport you would get arrested. We'd all laugh our stupid fourteen year old laughs and talk about how we would see who could say "bomb" the loudest at an airport and get away with it.
Thank god I was a stupid kid before the internet was a thing.
What could happen to these kids is they get on an FBI watchlist and certain ones may have the inability to ever travel by plane or pepple watching them.
Arresting all would be stupid, but watching them is what could be a consequence because of a trivial threat.
While it's not the worst thing in the world for someone to do, I think she and her parents she be fined heavily for her stupidity as an example to teens, twitter users, and kittens that hate freedom EVERYWHERE!
Well, technically you would be fining her, not the parents, though they would likely be the ones who end up paying it. I think its a pretty intelligent move to fine them personally, given that twitter is apparrently exploding with similar threats, it would probably be the most cost-effective way to deter such behavior.
chaos0xomega wrote: Well, technically you would be fining her, not the parents, though they would likely be the ones who end up paying it. I think its a pretty intelligent move to fine them personally, given that twitter is apparrently exploding with similar threats, it would probably be the most cost-effective way to deter such behavior.
Kronk advocating fining her parents, to me that is silly. As for fining her or her parents as a deterrent to copy cat actions? That would most likely not work well to deter similar behavior. Especially fining her parents: "So they fined that other chick's parents? Who cares, I hate my folks". Fining the minors directly? Unless you intend to put them in debtor's prison if thy cannot pay, you are not really threatening much.
The most cost-effective way to deter such behavior would be to stop making a big deal about it so that it gets zero news coverage. Do a cursory investigation, not publicized, once you find out it is some dumb teenager being a dumb teenager, drop it.
Hordini wrote: None of them made jokes about what they were about to do though, they just did them. Comparing this to all the attacks that have actually happened in the past, making a tweet like this before hand is probably one of the biggest indications that the person is actually not serious about doing anything.
They wouldn't be jokes if they happened, so no, none of the people who warned other people - like the Columbine idiots - made jokes about shooting up the school. They made threats.
The warning signs for things like Columbine were different and a lot more significant than a ridiculous tweet claiming to be someone else from another country.
But the warning signs for guys who committed suicide via webcam or any of the countless other examples that used to be up on Encyclopedia Dramatica weren't. So, yeah, while this was obviously not a serious threat, and I'd be inclined to laugh at any suggestion of Dutch aggression myself, you can't have a policy of dismissing threats that appear to be jokes as unimportant. There are a lot of examples of kids doing something extremely dangerous or harmful to others with nothing more than a dumb statement prior.
That was such a stupid thing to do. You know the police takes threats over the internet very seriously. But well, she is from Rotterdam, what shall we say? Confirmation of stereotypes? I really laughed at the comments she posted after they said her IP adress was forwarded to the FBI: "My friend did it, take her IP adress, not mine!" She was squealing and begging like she was being tortured or something I think the scare was enough of a punishment, she should not be punished further.
No because that sets a poor example for the other brats out there too. They need to be aware that actions will have consequences, something that seems to be being skipped lately through the whole special snow flake thing. They cannot think they cannot fail nor do the wrong thing and that it will simply be brushed aside. They actually need to learn.
chaos0xomega wrote: Well, technically you would be fining her, not the parents, though they would likely be the ones who end up paying it. I think its a pretty intelligent move to fine them personally, given that twitter is apparrently exploding with similar threats, it would probably be the most cost-effective way to deter such behavior.
Kronk advocating fining her parents, to me that is silly. As for fining her or her parents as a deterrent to copy cat actions? That would most likely not work well to deter similar behavior. Especially fining her parents: "So they fined that other chick's parents? Who cares, I hate my folks". Fining the minors directly? Unless you intend to put them in debtor's prison if thy cannot pay, you are not really threatening much.
The most cost-effective way to deter such behavior would be to stop making a big deal about it so that it gets zero news coverage. Do a cursory investigation, not publicized, once you find out it is some dumb teenager being a dumb teenager, drop it.
Fining her is fining her parents, which isn't silly at all. Happens all of the time with traffic tickets and so on. Not a hard concept, really.
Hit the parents in their pocket book, deter dumbass kids from being dumbasses.
Explain how a possible fine to parents deters teenagers from stupid actions.
Have raised two boys who are now in their early 20s and having a daughter about to enter her teen years, I honestly do not see how that would work, and have yet to see any examples to show me otherwise.
CptJake wrote: Explain how a possible fine to parents deters teenagers from stupid actions.
Have raised two boys who are now in their early 20s and having a daughter about to enter her teen years, I honestly do not see how that would work, and have yet to see any examples to show me otherwise.
If your daughter went to trial and was fined $500 or 10 days in the clink, you don't think that would have an impression?
CptJake wrote: Explain how a possible fine to parents deters teenagers from stupid actions.
Have raised two boys who are now in their early 20s and having a daughter about to enter her teen years, I honestly do not see how that would work, and have yet to see any examples to show me otherwise.
Gov't fines child.
Parents forced to pay.
When the parents pay the gov't money, they punish the child. Take away her car, phone, computer, whatever. Child learns not to do stuff.
You have 3 fething kids. Why am I having to explain this to you???
Iron_Captain wrote: That was such a stupid thing to do.
You know the police takes threats over the internet very seriously. But well, she is from Rotterdam, what shall we say? Confirmation of stereotypes?
I've got a friend from Rotterdam... and yes, confirmation.
kronk wrote: While it's not the worst thing in the world for someone to do, I think she and her parents she be fined heavily for her stupidity as an example to teens, twitter users, and kittens that hate freedom EVERYWHERE!
Dang, Steve's cover is blown.
Unit 134: Arrange immediate extraction for Agent 563. Priority 1.
CptJake wrote: Explain how a possible fine to parents deters teenagers from stupid actions.
Have raised two boys who are now in their early 20s and having a daughter about to enter her teen years, I honestly do not see how that would work, and have yet to see any examples to show me otherwise.
If your daughter went to trial and was fined $500 or 10 days in the clink, you don't think that would have an impression?
On her yes. Does her fine or her jail time deter other teenagers? No. Does it work as a deterrence as has been stated? I doubt it.
CptJake wrote: Explain how a possible fine to parents deters teenagers from stupid actions.
Have raised two boys who are now in their early 20s and having a daughter about to enter her teen years, I honestly do not see how that would work, and have yet to see any examples to show me otherwise.
Gov't fines child.
Parents forced to pay.
When the parents pay the gov't money, they punish the child. Take away her car, phone, computer, whatever. Child learns not to do stuff.
You have 3 fething kids. Why am I having to explain this to you???
You stated it was a deterrence. That is a LOT different from a punishment. As a parent, I am very familiar with the difference between the two.
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kronk wrote: While it's not the worst thing in the world for someone to do, I think she and her parents she be fined heavily for her stupidity as an example to teens, twitter users, and kittens that hate freedom EVERYWHERE!
The yellow is what I have been addressing. I do not see how fining this girls parents (or even her) acts as a deterrent to other teenagers. I just don't. That is not how teenaged kids think.
I get what you're saying, but to each his own, Captain Jack. When I was a teenager, if I saw someone get punished, I certainly learned from it. Either how to do a better job covering my own butt, or that the punishment isn't worth the crime.
But then, I'm not just handsome, but pretty smart!
Also humble. Don't forget humble. I'm more humble than any of you fethers!
We still have Justin Carter in prison, so you could probably trade her to us and we'd keep her. I think we're still looking for someone to pawn Beiber off on, and what greater irony than trading a stupid Beiber fan for Beiber himself?
LordofHats wrote: We still have Justin Carter in prison, so you could probably trade her to us and we'd keep her. I think we're still looking for someone to pawn Beiber off on, and what greater irony than trading a stupid Beiber fan for Beiber himself?
Hordini wrote: None of them made jokes about what they were about to do though, they just did them. Comparing this to all the attacks that have actually happened in the past, making a tweet like this before hand is probably one of the biggest indications that the person is actually not serious about doing anything.
They wouldn't be jokes if they happened, so no, none of the people who warned other people - like the Columbine idiots - made jokes about shooting up the school. They made threats.
The warning signs for things like Columbine were different and a lot more significant than a ridiculous tweet claiming to be someone else from another country.
But the warning signs for guys who committed suicide via webcam or any of the countless other examples that used to be up on Encyclopedia Dramatica weren't. So, yeah, while this was obviously not a serious threat, and I'd be inclined to laugh at any suggestion of Dutch aggression myself, you can't have a policy of dismissing threats that appear to be jokes as unimportant. There are a lot of examples of kids doing something extremely dangerous or harmful to others with nothing more than a dumb statement prior.
I'm not saying we should completely dismiss it, but I do think we should be careful not to overreact and waste a disproportionate amount of resources on it, as well as attempt to inflict a disproportionate punishment if/when it turns out to be nothing.
feeder wrote: The winner got the Gold Medals and Best at Hockey. The loser got only Silver Medals, Second Best at Hockey...... and had to keep the Beebs.
feeder wrote: The winner got the Gold Medals and Best at Hockey. The loser got only Silver Medals, Second Best at Hockey...... and had to keep the Beebs.
kronk wrote: While it's not the worst thing in the world for someone to do, I think she and her parents she be fined heavily for her stupidity as an example to teens, twitter users, and kittens that hate freedom EVERYWHERE!
Dang, Steve's cover is blown.
Unit 134: Arrange immediate extraction for Agent 563. Priority 1.
Steve?You are mistaken.He is CLEARLY Alpharius.And so am I.And every member of the 55th Alphaic hydras. And all of you.
feeder wrote: The winner got the Gold Medals and Best at Hockey. The loser got only Silver Medals, Second Best at Hockey...... and had to keep the Beebs.
Hydra... .....freaking Epic failure...unleashing Bieber on us and it backfired....now Dutch peeps are sliding into the Bieber camp because of "Fangirl"
feeder wrote: The winner got the Gold Medals and Best at Hockey. The loser got only Silver Medals, Second Best at Hockey...... and had to keep the Beebs.
Your boys should have tried harder.
Wrong thread perhaps?
Funnily enough I don't think it is.
Yeah I forgot to quote from Jihadin. It was a tangent on the first page about the Gold Medal Hockey game and the Beebs.
Fafnir wrote: I think the more important thing to wonder is how the hell are children allowed to use twitter?
A 14 year old using Twitter is the real outrage in my opinion.
Isnt twitter used exclusively by that demographic?
If its not, thats the REAL REAL outrage IMO
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Fafnir wrote: It may sound old and outdated, but I for one firmly believe that children shouldn't be allowed to use public social media, at least not without adult supervision, because children say really stupid gak, and then stuff like that happens.
Better watch them when they are near a letter writing machine or whatever they call that fiddly stick that marks that white flat dealie with words and what not.
it takes literally half a second to type something stupid, even watching over their sholder 100% of the time I cant smack their hand away before they hit send. ALso, I think you go to jail now for smacking hands, or maybe its just with a ruler.
Since we cant watch the kids 100% of the time, we have to teach them to watch them selves. IMO the parents job failed when they raised a 14 year old who STILL does not know the "boy who cried wolf" moral.
Using the internet, mail, or phone to call in a phoney threat is very much a crime. People must have had this problem back when the telephone came out
*dials the hospital* "hey there, I am going to blow you up!"
*hospital* "OMG THATS AWFUL CALL THE POLICE"
*dialer* "no wait, Im just joking"
hospital "JEESUS WE WENT THROUGH THIS LAST TIME WHEN MAIL WAS INVENTED DONT TELL US ANYTHING YOU WOULDNT SAY IN PERSON FFS"
I dont care how parents get their kids to do it, maybe you get em scared of the wrath of god, or simply the wrath of mum and dad, but kids gotta understand that there is a line between joking and illegal, and where that line is.
Im pretty unimpressed that the "dont punish me, im a girl" is still one of the go to cards to play to get out of it too.
If we can lock him up for 10 years on no charge I'll be a happy man. Pity they are closing Guantanamo before it could be put to good use. Though on second thought making him listen to metal for 12 hours a day might mean that in 10 years beiber might put out a metal video - he'd probably have enough tats by then :/
Daemonhammer wrote: I find it funny how some countries allow to arrest kids for terrorism.
Funny how in some countries kids are used as soldiers. Or kids are recruited to blow themselves up.
How is that relevant ?
Do you really need it spelled out in black and white? Kids CAN be terrorists. It's common in certain countries. He spelled it out pretty clearly for you. Kids can kill people. Kids can make terrorist threats that are followed out on. Kids can be terrorists. Good. Glad we had this talk that didnt really need this many words, except that you didn't get it.
Daemonhammer wrote: I find it funny how some countries allow to arrest kids for terrorism.
Funny how in some countries kids are used as soldiers. Or kids are recruited to blow themselves up.
How is that relevant ?
It is relevant because there are kids that are terrorists, or at least recruited by terrorists to commit terrorist acts. Why the feth should you NOT be allowed to arrest teenagers for terrorism?
Dzhokhar Tsarnaev was 19 when he blew up the Boston Marathon a year ago. In plenty of places kids a LOT younger are bombing and fighting.
I think our best defense against terrorism is to be as fearful as possible at all times. As long as we can keep our fear level at maximum we will be immune to further terrorist acts.
Or maybe locking people up over dumb, insincere threats is stupid. Hopefully the worst that happens to this girl is she gets a talking to.
Daemonhammer wrote: I was merely mocking the fact that a 14 year old was able to get arrested for posting something stupid on twitter and people are taking it seriously.
But no, you couldnt see that and you react with instant hostility.
Also this is Denmark, its in central Europe and its not a third world country in Africa or Middle East. You Americans should look at a map sometimes.
*stuff removed, because I'm also nice, in addition to smart, good looking, and humble*
Further, your first post was passive aggressive. You should expect a reaction. Indeed, I'd wager you posted that to get a reaction.
Now that people have reacted, you've turned aggressive aggressive. Also, predictable.
You're boring.
Also, you left off the ' in "couldn't".
Further, your first post was passive aggressive. You should expect a reaction. Indeed, I'd wager you posted that to get a reaction.
Now that people have reacted, you've turned aggressive aggressive. Also, predictable.
Again, i was trying to point out how riddiculus it is that a 14 year old is being treated seriously for posting something stupid on twitter.
I expected a reaction, but not that people would turn hostile.
And English is not my first language. Its not even my second language. So i appologise if i leave out a ' in a sentence.
Again, i was trying to point out how riddiculus it is that a 14 year old is being treated seriously for posting something stupid on twitter.
I expected a reaction, but not that people would turn hostile.
Except, what you REALLY wrote was:
Daemonhammer wrote: I find it funny how some countries allow to arrest kids for terrorism.
Which is a generic statement, which several of us pointed out, correctly, is silly and wrong.
I thought someone said it was a Dutch kid, not a Dane. If so, wouldn't that ding your whole 'look at a map Americans' insult?
Also, good job heaving the point around until you could take a shot at America. In the other threads you just came out with it, this time you tried subtlety....for a bit.
HiveFleetPlastic wrote: I think our best defense against terrorism is to be as fearful as possible at all times. As long as we can keep our fear level at maximum we will be immune to further terrorist acts.
Or maybe locking people up over dumb, insincere threats is stupid. Hopefully the worst that happens to this girl is she gets a talking to.
When she's let out of prison 80 years from now. Spare the solitary, spoil the prisoner!
motyak wrote: I thought someone said it was a Dutch kid, not a Dane. If so, wouldn't that ding your whole 'look at a map Americans' insult?
Also, good job heaving the point around until you could take a shot at America. In the other threads you just came out with it, this time you tried subtlety....for a bit.
Confusing Dutch and Danes is perfectly fine. I myself also struggle to see any differences at all. They are eerily similiar. The only difference I have found so far is that Dutch talk like oo and aa while Danes go more like ø and å.
motyak wrote: I thought someone said it was a Dutch kid, not a Dane. If so, wouldn't that ding your whole 'look at a map Americans' insult?
Also, good job heaving the point around until you could take a shot at America. In the other threads you just came out with it, this time you tried subtlety....for a bit.
Confusing Dutch and Danes is perfectly fine. I myself also struggle to see any differences at all. They are eerily similiar. The only difference I have found so far is that Dutch talk like oo and aa while Danes go more like ø and å.
motyak wrote: I thought someone said it was a Dutch kid, not a Dane. If so, wouldn't that ding your whole 'look at a map Americans' insult?
Also, good job heaving the point around until you could take a shot at America. In the other threads you just came out with it, this time you tried subtlety....for a bit.
Confusing Dutch and Danes is perfectly fine. I myself also struggle to see any differences at all. They are eerily similiar. The only difference I have found so far is that Dutch talk like oo and aa while Danes go more like ø and å.
14 year olds should know damn well that walking into a hospital and threatening (even jokingly) to blow it up is both morally wrong, and illegal.
Why some people think its a "joke" when the medium is changed from in person, to via mail, phone, e-mail, twitter, facebook, ect is just silly.
OBS the girl shouldnt go to jail or have her whole life ruined, just let her off with no criminal record but a bunch of community service and be done with it.
Still dissapointing to see her use the "but im a girl" defence too.. that card should have been taken out of the deck a long time ago.
The girl has been released yesterday by the police. Her parents had taken her to the police station in the first place.
I doubt there will be much in terms of consequences. The usual punishment is some community service but no criminal record.
A no fly listing could be a bit of a bother.
Antario wrote: The girl has been released yesterday by the police. Her parents had taken her to the police station in the first place.
I doubt there will be much in terms of consequences. The usual punishment is some community service but no criminal record.
A no fly listing could be a bit of a bother.
Daemonhammer wrote: I was merely mocking the fact that a 14 year old was able to get arrested for posting something stupid on twitter and people are taking it seriously.
But no, you couldnt see that and you react with instant hostility.
Also this is Denmark, its in central Europe and its not a third world country in Africa or Middle East.
You Americans should look at a map sometimes.
Maybe you should look at a map, Dutch people come The Netherlands.
Daemonhammer wrote: I was merely mocking the fact that a 14 year old was able to get arrested for posting something stupid on twitter and people are taking it seriously.
But no, you couldnt see that and you react with instant hostility.
Also this is Denmark, its in central Europe and its not a third world country in Africa or Middle East.
You Americans should look at a map sometimes.
Maybe you should look at a map, Dutch people come The Netherlands.
I thought Dutch people came from other Dutch people...
Daemonhammer wrote: I was merely mocking the fact that a 14 year old was able to get arrested for posting something stupid on twitter and people are taking it seriously.
But no, you couldnt see that and you react with instant hostility.
Also this is Denmark, its in central Europe and its not a third world country in Africa or Middle East.
You Americans should look at a map sometimes.
Maybe you should look at a map, Dutch people come The Netherlands.
I thought Dutch people came from other Dutch people...
So that stork / cabbage patch story my mommy tells me isn't true?!?!!
Daemonhammer wrote: I was merely mocking the fact that a 14 year old was able to get arrested for posting something stupid on twitter and people are taking it seriously.
But no, you couldnt see that and you react with instant hostility.
Also this is Denmark, its in central Europe and its not a third world country in Africa or Middle East.
You Americans should look at a map sometimes.
Maybe you should look at a map, Dutch people come The Netherlands.
I thought Dutch people came from other Dutch people...
Daemonhammer wrote: I was merely mocking the fact that a 14 year old was able to get arrested for posting something stupid on twitter and people are taking it seriously.
But no, you couldnt see that and you react with instant hostility.
Also this is Denmark, its in central Europe and its not a third world country in Africa or Middle East.
You Americans should look at a map sometimes.
Maybe you should look at a map, Dutch people come The Netherlands.
motyak wrote: I thought someone said it was a Dutch kid, not a Dane. If so, wouldn't that ding your whole 'look at a map Americans' insult?
Also, good job heaving the point around until you could take a shot at America. In the other threads you just came out with it, this time you tried subtlety....for a bit.
Confusing Dutch and Danes is perfectly fine. I myself also struggle to see any differences at all. They are eerily similiar. The only difference I have found so far is that Dutch talk like oo and aa while Danes go more like ø and å.
Watch what you are saying you fake Dutch man, there is a large difference! we have legal prostitutes, weed, cheese, tulips, windmills, gabber house and like to put our fingers into dykes!
Fafnir wrote: It may sound old and outdated, but I for one firmly believe that children shouldn't be allowed to use public social media, at least not without adult supervision, because children say really stupid gak, and then stuff like that happens.
only if they'e idiots and don't know what PUBLIC means.
TheCustomLime wrote: I like how she says "I'm just a girl" as a defense. As if only guys can do these things.
Because you cant assemble a live bomb while wearing a burka?
Is that why she said she's "just a girl"? Or is it because Ibrahim is clearly not a girl? She also wrote she's not from Afghanistan perhaps in an attempt to counter all the claims of her initial tweet.
Fafnir wrote: It may sound old and outdated, but I for one firmly believe that children shouldn't be allowed to use public social media, at least not without adult supervision, because children say really stupid gak, and then stuff like that happens.
only if they'e idiots and don't know what PUBLIC means.
Fafnir wrote: It may sound old and outdated, but I for one firmly believe that children shouldn't be allowed to use public social media, at least not without adult supervision, because children say really stupid gak, and then stuff like that happens.
only if they'e idiots and don't know what PUBLIC means.
Fafnir wrote: It may sound old and outdated, but I for one firmly believe that children shouldn't be allowed to use public social media, at least not without adult supervision, because children say really stupid gak, and then stuff like that happens.
only if they'e idiots and don't know what PUBLIC means.
If they're 14, it's an absolute guarantee.
I'm 14...
So am I.
Being 14 doesn't automatically mean you are stupid. Some 14 year olds are actually rather intelligent.
Intelligence at 14 is generally compensated for by a lack of real experience, maturity and responsibility.
The subject of the opening post could be a certified genius when base intelligence is measured. That, however, was not enough to prevent her from doing something stupid.
Daemonhammer wrote: What i wonder is why are twitter messages treated so seriously.
Soon World of Warcraft chat messages will be enough proof to convict someone for making death threats.
Good question. I think the answer lies in the threat/message, not the medium used to pass it. If an airline receives a threat, via a sent letter, spray paint on the wall of their building, email, twitter or whatever, I think the responsible action on their part is to pass the info to some law enforcement agency. The air line does not have the investigative capability to determine the veracity of the threat, and if they chose to ignore it and it was real they could have some major liability issues.
Crablezworth wrote: Is taking a threat from a 14 year old "seriously" a good thing?
Judging by all the #420BlazeIt #YOLO #FrackThaPoleece teenagers these days, you never know what crazy stuff they could be actually considering doing.
You know you're getting old when you decide that "teenagers these days" doing exactly the same stuff in exactly the same amounts as the things you and your peers did when you were young are suddenly a massive threat to society that must be stopped.
Seriously, the lack of awareness whenever topics like this come up his hilarious. "Oooh, these younguns and their 'media socials' on their 'interwebs', we didn't have that sort of malarkey in my day let me tell you!". Of course before the 'net it was "hip-hop culture" or grunge music or Goths or rock music or raves or metal etc etc blah blah.
Everyone's an idiot when they're a teenager, it's demonstrable scientifically, that's why we don't allow children to drive, smoke, drink, have sex, join the military or vote, because it's factually true that, statistically speaking, any individual child is incapable of properly assessing risk and are substantially more vulnerable to manipulation by authority figures.
This silly wee girl made a bad joke. Unfunny? Yep. Tasteless? Probably. But criminal? Only in the minds of the most petty authoritarian hypocrites.
Fafnir wrote: It may sound old and outdated, but I for one firmly believe that children shouldn't be allowed to use public social media, at least not without adult supervision, because children say really stupid gak, and then stuff like that happens.
only if they'e idiots and don't know what PUBLIC means.
If they're 14, it's an absolute guarantee.
I'm 14...
Wow you're younger then my youngest kid. I could be your grandpa. Wait...er..I have an alibi.
Fafnir wrote: It may sound old and outdated, but I for one firmly believe that children shouldn't be allowed to use public social media, at least not without adult supervision, because children say really stupid gak, and then stuff like that happens.
only if they'e idiots and don't know what PUBLIC means.
If they're 14, it's an absolute guarantee.
I'm 14...
Wow you're younger then my youngest kid. I could be your grandpa. Wait...er..I have an alibi.
Im confused. Are you saying that I "sound" older?
There are a lot of kids on Dakka. I think.
Fafnir wrote: It may sound old and outdated, but I for one firmly believe that children shouldn't be allowed to use public social media, at least not without adult supervision, because children say really stupid gak, and then stuff like that happens.
only if they'e idiots and don't know what PUBLIC means.
If they're 14, it's an absolute guarantee.
I'm 14...
Wow you're younger then my youngest kid. I could be your grandpa. Wait...er..I have an alibi.
Im confused. Are you saying that I "sound" older?
There are a lot of kids on Dakka. I think.
Fafnir wrote: It may sound old and outdated, but I for one firmly believe that children shouldn't be allowed to use public social media, at least not without adult supervision, because children say really stupid gak, and then stuff like that happens.
only if they'e idiots and don't know what PUBLIC means.
If they're 14, it's an absolute guarantee.
I'm 14...
Wow you're younger then my youngest kid. I could be your grandpa. Wait...er..I have an alibi.
Im confused. Are you saying that I "sound" older?
There are a lot of kids on Dakka. I think.
No, you don't understand. He just made a joke. And it was funny, gaddamit.
I can always tell when a letter or article is written by a teenager, because they always reference their age. "As a 15 year old living in blah de blah, I think...."
Iron Captain: I felt some of the vitriol thrown your way in the Russia thread was unfair, because for a 14 year old kid you present your arguments pretty cogently and intelligently, and you also seem to be able to control your temper fairly well. I mean you have a bias in that topic and I disagree with some of what you were saying, but when I found out you were 14 my respect for you actually increased rather than decreasing.
However, raw intelligence aside, experience is very valuable when making judgements and so on, which is why people are quite dismissive of teenagers a lot of the time. I work with teenagers and have become acclimatized to the sorts of common behaviours and so on that people find irritating. I mean it's only fair- teenagers have to put up with a world full of know-it-all cynical adults