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Barbarian Hordesmen NOW on Kickstarter!! @ 2014/05/21 21:49:00


Post by: tre manor


KICKSTARTER NOW ACTIVE!

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1103158358/barbarian-horde

Alright......here is what I have been working on for the new Helsvakt......

I am still undecided about the exact format of the figures. I am leaning more toward single piece bodies with interchangeable heads, shields, and weapons. Though somehow that does not seem as efficient as going totally modular with interchangeable torsos, legs, heads, weapons and shields.

So I am asking again with the pictures for you guys to judge by.....pardon the angles wierdness....

Oh and I am also putting the HElsvakt Archers on the corks this week. The new Morgrimn and Conradt will also be offered as LE resins as well. I am going to limit them to no more than 200 copies and I am going to have an art card / certificate of authenticity made to go with them.

So what do you guys think??

Also bear in mind there will be 6 heads options. 3 open faced and 3 closed face helms.









Barbarian Hordesmen NOW on Kickstarter!! @ 2014/05/21 22:08:48


Post by: edlowe


Very impressive!


Barbarian Hordesmen NOW on Kickstarter!! @ 2014/05/21 22:15:41


Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured


Looking smart there Tre,



Barbarian Hordesmen NOW on Kickstarter!! @ 2014/05/21 22:19:56


Post by: monkeytroll


Very nice!

Personally I'm always looking for modularity in minis, but that's down to me being much more inclined to the converting and building of figures.


Barbarian Hordesmen NOW on Kickstarter!! @ 2014/05/21 22:51:33


Post by: basement.dweller


Wow... Great looking figures. It looks like you had the torso/legs modularity in mind when you made these as a joint can be hidden by the clothing... I guess if it can be done easily it might give some people more choice for multiples?

Given how dynamic most of them are, I would personally want them the way you made them - I'd fear that there would be a mismatch in the posing/movement of muscles etc if some of the torsos where swapped here.

In short: Your figures are not plain enough for modularity


Barbarian Hordesmen NOW on Kickstarter!! @ 2014/05/21 22:52:17


Post by: Ken Oakley


The less modular, the better for me. I hate putting minis togather.


Barbarian Hordesmen NOW on Kickstarter!! @ 2014/05/21 23:02:05


Post by: Alpharius


Will these also be for the game you're working on too?


Barbarian Hordesmen NOW on Kickstarter!! @ 2014/05/21 23:32:46


Post by: tre manor




I have been working on a game for th existing line for a while btu I am not convinced that the mechanics really " fit " the theme of a standard fantasy game. I am trying to work out ( and afford ) to hire on a professional to build the game for the existing line.

I think you may be referring to the " other " project, for which these figures are not intended.


Barbarian Hordesmen NOW on Kickstarter!! @ 2014/05/21 23:57:22


Post by: highlord tamburlaine


Damn, Tre!

Those are nice. If it's just the heads and hands we can swap, I think I'm good.

Maybe a joint at the waist? I don't know.

This was going to go with those lizards and undead stuf you showed off before, right?


Barbarian Hordesmen NOW on Kickstarter!! @ 2014/05/22 01:16:50


Post by: RiTides



They look neat and finely detailed, as always!

What base size is in the above pic? Can't be 25mm, right?



Barbarian Hordesmen NOW on Kickstarter!! @ 2014/05/22 01:58:27


Post by: Jehan-reznor


Conan showing off his war garbs?
Looking good.


Barbarian Hordesmen NOW on Kickstarter!! @ 2014/05/22 02:41:38


Post by: primalexile


I am so glad I did not buy a box of chaos marauders last week!!! Any idea when these are going to release?


Barbarian Hordesmen NOW on Kickstarter!! @ 2014/05/22 04:15:54


Post by: highlord tamburlaine


I hope those bases aren't 25s- those barbarians would be tiny!

I shall hope they're on 40s, since everyone knows barbarians are BIG and TOUGH.


Barbarian Hordesmen NOW on Kickstarter!! @ 2014/05/22 04:17:15


Post by: Kelly502


Theey have a Conan look to them, I think the comic series I enjoyed was by Dark horse. Very awesome!


Barbarian Hordesmen NOW on Kickstarter!! @ 2014/05/22 07:10:59


Post by: Erasoketa


They look really good. I would change only one thing if I could. In the 3 closed face helmets, I would open the lower hole until the chin in two of the models, like in the third model (ala Boba Fett, Chaos Warrior, etc). But I guess that can be done with the final model anyway, easily enough

The sculpts are superb, as always.


Barbarian Hordesmen NOW on Kickstarter!! @ 2014/05/22 07:15:48


Post by: Azazelx


Beautiful sculpts as always, but I fear that they are on 25mm round bases, and so will be way too small for me to use for purpose.


Barbarian Hordesmen NOW on Kickstarter!! @ 2014/05/22 07:56:39


Post by: Fenrir Kitsune


Looking fantastic! The only thing I'm not 100% is the triangular design of the sword blades, but thats just me.


Barbarian Hordesmen NOW on Kickstarter!! @ 2014/05/22 09:48:29


Post by: Zond


I think the arms look weird, with oversized hands. Might just be the photo though. I'd still happily pick some up.


Barbarian Hordesmen NOW on Kickstarter!! @ 2014/05/22 09:53:01


Post by: corgan


Tre, once more these minis look amazing. I would like to ask if there are going to be armoured versions of HelsVakt like the ones of the first KS



It would be really nice to be able to combine them with these great looking unarmoured ones!


 highlord tamburlaine wrote:
I hope those bases aren't 25s- those barbarians would be tiny!

I shall hope they're on 40s, since everyone knows barbarians are BIG and TOUGH.


I have seen many times comments about the size of Red Box minis. I would like to say, referring only to the Njorn barbarians I received from the last KS, that these minis are not tiny at all. I took some photos, taking as main comparison mini a Black Arc Corsair, which although it's not a new model, it represents the newer tension of GW for even more heroic scale minis

1. In this first picture the third mini is the previous version of a Black Guard, which could be also characterised as "smaller" than the Black Arc Corsair (compare the heads for example). Compared to the Njorn I wouldn't describe it as "bigger"


2. Here compared with Misericord from the Confrontation line


3. With an older Saruman from GW LotR line


4. Next to a Pilgrim Reincarnate from Magnificent Egos (a very beloved miniature for unknown reasons)


I think that it is not the case that Red Box minis (at least the latest products) are smaller. I wouldn't say so even compared to Warhammer GW products. They may be different style (heroic, non-heroic) but it is definitely not different size. The fact that they are not identical style to GW's doesn't make them small. On the contrary they are much better proportionally and in general as sculptures.

Concluding I would like to say that if the new HelsVakt models are the same size like this Njorn mini in the pictures then they would not be small at all.

Congrats once more Tre!!!


Barbarian Hordesmen NOW on Kickstarter!! @ 2014/05/22 11:37:20


Post by: RiTides


Corgan, that's great! However, the Helsvakt riders I got from KS1 were very small (but not their horses) and these have the same aesthetic.

A size comparison photo or shot with a ruler would be most appreciated, Tre


Barbarian Hordesmen NOW on Kickstarter!! @ 2014/05/22 13:50:09


Post by: highlord tamburlaine


My worry was the size of the open helmeted figures in relation to their base size. The bases they're on are significantly larger compared to them.

The closed helmet guys at least seem to be on bases that are more appropriately sized.

Hopefully Tre can spill the beans and bring a ruler to dispel any worries.


Barbarian Hordesmen NOW on Kickstarter!! @ 2014/05/22 14:18:07


Post by: Divine_Tyranny


May grab some of these for d&d :3


Barbarian Hordesmen NOW on Kickstarter!! @ 2014/05/22 14:27:55


Post by: tre manor


Thank you VERY much for that very thorough comparison Corgan.

To answer the questions thus far......

the guy with the two handed axe ( haft anyway ) is pictured on a 40 mm base. He is somewhat heroically scaled next to the hordesmen. This is entirely intentional as he is supposed to be a great massive hero. The guy with the Two handed sword is also pictured ona 40 mm round wooden base. he is not quite as heroically proportioned as the axe man but is still slightly bulkier than the hordesmen, but only slightly so. The swordsman is almost exactly the same size as Rollo- the figure used in Corgan's reference. The hordesmen themselves are pictured on 25 mm roudn bases.

The bulk of these figures is thicker than that of the KS1 helsvakt hordesmen. Not incredibly so but enough that it does make a visible difference.

These WERE going to be the modular barbarians for the OTHER project I have been working on but I decided to convert them fro purpose to become the new HelsVakt. basically they would have the same anatomy but with very different ( and much less! ) costuming. The Barbarians for the OTHER project are damned near naked.


Barbarian Hordesmen NOW on Kickstarter!! @ 2014/05/22 14:45:24


Post by: corgan


 tre manor wrote:
Thank you VERY much for that very thorough comparison Corgan.

The swordsman is almost exactly the same size as Rollo- the figure used in Corgan's reference. The hordesmen themselves are pictured on 25 mm roudn bases.

These WERE going to be the modular barbarians for the OTHER project I have been working on but I decided to convert them fro purpose to become the new HelsVakt. basically they would have the same anatomy but with very different ( and much less! ) costuming. The Barbarians for the OTHER project are damned near naked.


You are very welcomed Tre!

This leaves then no doubt, taking into account the photos. And BTW the bases included in the package with the six Njorns were indeed 25 mm

This means that there is not going to be any more armoured HelsVakt like the ones of the first KS?
These models were so great. I would like to see them again.


Barbarian Hordesmen NOW on Kickstarter!! @ 2014/05/22 15:53:26


Post by: tre manor


Whoops! Yes there are plans for half armoured hordesmen and I will be bringing back the fully armoured Gynnade once I convert the originals to have the shields as a single piece with the bodies.


Barbarian Hordesmen NOW on Kickstarter!! @ 2014/05/22 17:02:07


Post by: Wehrkind


Awesome stuff! Super excited to get in on this action! I love my RedBox barbarians, despite never having a project to use them in.


Yet...


Barbarian Hordesmen NOW on Kickstarter!! @ 2014/05/22 20:56:36


Post by: Trodax


I'm sooo in on this when it launches. I just love the Helsvakt and these are looking great!


Barbarian Hordesmen NOW on Kickstarter!! @ 2014/05/27 21:28:03


Post by: tre manor


WIP of the new HelRider Hero I am working on for the project. If the fundign permits I will also scultp a foot version of the hero.

I hope I am on the right track with this one. The cork is a 50mm diameter cork if that gives you a good frame of reference for the size.




Barbarian Hordesmen NOW on Kickstarter!! @ 2014/05/27 21:34:32


Post by: edlowe


Any idea when you're going to launch?


Barbarian Hordesmen NOW on Kickstarter!! @ 2014/05/27 21:46:30


Post by: tre manor


Hopefully by the end of the week next week. I am submitting the campaign for approval tomorrow evening. I will be out of town over the weekend so it will definitely be next week sometime.


Barbarian Hordesmen NOW on Kickstarter!! @ 2014/05/27 21:58:04


Post by: corgan


Great news!


Barbarian Hordesmen NOW on Kickstarter!! @ 2014/05/28 17:45:37


Post by: drazz


I'm always on board for some of Tre's work. These barbarians look great as usual. Looking forward to the KS.


Barbarian Hordesmen NOW on Kickstarter!! @ 2014/05/28 18:54:00


Post by: tre manor


OK I have been at it this morning trying to get it right.

What do yo uguys think? Don't spare my feelings! I cannot correct problems I do nto see!.




Barbarian Hordesmen NOW on Kickstarter!! @ 2014/05/28 19:31:25


Post by: bubber


I have no negative comments - what you've done so far is really great.
However I was wondering if you have a copy of this book:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Anatomy-Horse-Dover-Artists/dp/0486234029/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1401305374&sr=1-1&keywords=george+stubbs+anatomy


Barbarian Hordesmen NOW on Kickstarter!! @ 2014/05/28 20:51:50


Post by: Medium of Death


Not sure how I missed the previous ones, but this looks awesome. Certainly loving the previous up armoured guys, really liking these new ones too.


Barbarian Hordesmen NOW on Kickstarter!! @ 2014/05/28 21:18:07


Post by: Ken Oakley


This horse looks so much better.


Barbarian Hordesmen NOW on Kickstarter!! @ 2014/05/28 21:24:31


Post by: RiTides


I agree, I like this horse better. One constructive criticism regarding the horses from the prior campaign was they were a little too static. For example, compared to the WIP model on the left of this pic:

Spoiler:

I also think bubber's linking to the book may be his thinking the musculature could use to stand out a bit more? I agree with that, rather than having a bit of a doughy/chubby horse.

Can't wait to see where you take it, hope the above is helpful since you were asking for feedback . I really like the horse armature you have posted above.


Barbarian Hordesmen NOW on Kickstarter!! @ 2014/05/28 23:19:26


Post by: tre manor



Thanks yall!


Well whislt I was waiting for the armature to cure I decided to make good use of my time and VOILA!!!

Craven....this is the first of three Helsvakt Archers planned.



New Gynnade troops.....1 of 3 or 4 planned. Thes won;t be as modular and won't cost me as much money to produce.



Barbarian Hordesmen NOW on Kickstarter!! @ 2014/05/29 16:22:58


Post by: corgan


If I may, maybe this would be a good idea to have in mind for horses of barbarian cavarly



Barbarian Hordesmen NOW on Kickstarter!! @ 2014/06/02 14:03:22


Post by: tre manor


Thanks Corgan! Yeh the Drune were pretty bad ass eh?

Good News!!

Kickstarter Campaign is approved! I am now just going over the details once more to make sure that everything is worded properly and that the pledge descriptions make sense. I should be launching later today.


Barbarian Hordesmen NOW on Kickstarter!! @ 2014/06/02 18:13:00


Post by: edlowe


 tre manor wrote:
Thanks Corgan! Yeh the Drune were pretty bad ass eh?

Good News!!

Kickstarter Campaign is approved! I am now just going over the details once more to make sure that everything is worded properly and that the pledge descriptions make sense. I should be launching later today.


That is good news may have to drop another ks to back this if the shippings fair.


Barbarian Hordesmen NOW on Kickstarter!! @ 2014/06/02 18:46:42


Post by: tre manor


Shipping is as low as we can get it for both international and domestic and it is included in each pledge level.


Barbarian Hordesmen NOW on Kickstarter!! @ 2014/06/02 18:48:34


Post by: edlowe


Cheers Tre, do we have a countdown to start


Barbarian Hordesmen NOW on Kickstarter!! @ 2014/06/02 19:35:25


Post by: RiTides


 tre manor wrote:
Shipping is as low as we can get it for both international and domestic and it is included in each pledge level.

Bless you, Tre! Less logistics for all, I really prefer to pay my shipping with my pledges


Barbarian Hordesmen NOW on Kickstarter!! @ 2014/06/02 20:27:58


Post by: highlord tamburlaine


...and pledged.

Dumb question Tre.

How big would these guys be in comparison to those Bugbears you did for Reaper? Comparable?


Barbarian Hordesmen NOW on Kickstarter!! @ 2014/06/02 20:35:11


Post by: corgan


Pledged also!!


Barbarian Hordesmen NOW on Kickstarter!! @ 2014/06/02 20:38:40


Post by: czakk


 highlord tamburlaine wrote:
...and pledged.

Dumb question Tre.

How big would these guys be in comparison to those Bugbears you did for Reaper? Comparable?


Tre's reaper stuff is larger than his red box games stuff. Hands and heads especially.


Barbarian Hordesmen NOW on Kickstarter!! @ 2014/06/02 20:39:54


Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured


Tre,

you should edit the first post to change the title to show the KS has launched

(or maybe one of the MODs if they're feeling generous ?)


Barbarian Hordesmen NOW on Kickstarter!! @ 2014/06/02 20:53:32


Post by: Alpharius


Generous indeed!

Title updated and link inserted into first post!


Barbarian Hordesmen NOW on Kickstarter!! @ 2014/06/02 20:54:38


Post by: tre manor


Highlord........ Well these guys are noticably smaller than the bug bear, being that the Bugbear is huge even by Reaper standards

Thanks Yall!


Barbarian Hordesmen NOW on Kickstarter!! @ 2014/06/02 20:55:22


Post by: highlord tamburlaine


Fair enough. Bugbear's are supposed to be big anyways, so maybe that wasn't a good comparison.

I just can't seem to get a handle on human figures. I don't really have too many- just some of the female figures Reaper's done in their Bones line.


Other than that, I've got some of Mierce's Ysians, and that's about as human as the bulk of my collection gets (outside of the few random dudes in power armor of various sorts).

Would they be a close approximation size- wise?



Barbarian Hordesmen NOW on Kickstarter!! @ 2014/06/02 21:01:50


Post by: Medium of Death


I really like the guys when they have the full helm, not so keen on the bare heads but that's just style preference than a reflection of the sculpting because I think both versions are well done.

Any chance of the Heroes having alternative head pieces?


Barbarian Hordesmen NOW on Kickstarter!! @ 2014/06/02 21:18:03


Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured


 Alpharius wrote:
Generous indeed!

Title updated and link inserted into first post!


All praise the wise and generous Alpharius (wonders what the hidden master plan is......)


Barbarian Hordesmen NOW on Kickstarter!! @ 2014/06/02 23:26:00


Post by: basement.dweller


Isn't generous a contraction of "General Grievous"?


Barbarian Hordesmen NOW on Kickstarter!! @ 2014/06/06 17:17:32


Post by: Trodax


Well I'm in for two sets, really hoping we get at least those two heroes!


Barbarian Hordesmen NOW on Kickstarter!! @ 2014/06/03 00:49:08


Post by: JWBS


 Medium of Death wrote:
I really like the guys when they have the full helm, not so keen on the bare heads but that's just style preference than a reflection of the sculpting because I think both versions are well done.

Any chance of the Heroes having alternative head pieces?


I'd like another weapon option for the infantry weapon sprue. A hammer or something. I might be in for 2 or 3 sets, 50/50 at this point.


Barbarian Hordesmen NOW on Kickstarter!! @ 2014/06/03 01:53:50


Post by: tre manor


Thanks everybody!

There will be a hammer weapon option on the sprue. The weapon options will be 2 swords, 2 axes, 1 mace, and 1 hammer and perhaps 2 spears if I can figure out how to make them work on the figures and sprue. I had considered sprues for each weapon type but that just creates a nightmare for cost and fulfillment management.


Barbarian Hordesmen NOW on Kickstarter!! @ 2014/06/03 03:12:24


Post by: highlord tamburlaine


As long as all those helmets are closed off and I don't have to paint any eyes, I'm golden!

Sounds like we'll have plenty of weapon choices to play with!


Barbarian Hordesmen NOW on Kickstarter!! @ 2014/06/03 04:59:43


Post by: frontierpediatry


It sounds like each set of 6 comes with 3 closed helmets and 3 open, will it be possible to get all closed helms?


Barbarian Hordesmen NOW on Kickstarter!! @ 2014/06/03 11:21:34


Post by: Fenrir Kitsune


Backed. Hoping this one goes well!


Barbarian Hordesmen NOW on Kickstarter!! @ 2014/06/03 14:01:05


Post by: cincydooley


These look really great, Tre! Just showed them to my buddies that RPG and play Chaos Warriors and they're in.

Very nice work!


Barbarian Hordesmen NOW on Kickstarter!! @ 2014/06/03 14:05:06


Post by: tre manor


thanks everybody.

There might be a way to get all closed helms. I am tryign to keep the bits as manageable as possible but I can see the benefit to havign a spreu of closed and a sprue of open faced helms.


Barbarian Hordesmen NOW on Kickstarter!! @ 2014/06/03 15:34:07


Post by: frontierpediatry


I'd be very happy to add a couple bucks to get more head sprues as an option if that's more convenient. I'm in for two groups and I'll be getting the archers for sure too!


Barbarian Hordesmen NOW on Kickstarter!! @ 2014/06/03 19:28:42


Post by: Medium of Death


Getting more closed helms would certainly be a good thing!


Barbarian Hordesmen NOW on Kickstarter!! @ 2014/06/03 19:30:39


Post by: edlowe


I'd definitely prefer the closed helms for all the troops to be honest. I'm interested to know what heads the archers will have, armoured or bare?


Barbarian Hordesmen NOW on Kickstarter!! @ 2014/06/03 20:01:38


Post by: highlord tamburlaine


Not that there's anything wrong with the open ones, but those closed ones just have a real bad ass vibe to them.

Plus without any faces to worry about, they can make excellent meat grinder bad guy fodder to fight with or against.


Barbarian Hordesmen NOW on Kickstarter!! @ 2014/06/03 20:13:09


Post by: Zond


They're awesome, but I'm saving myself for your pulpy Conan game kickstarter.


Barbarian Hordesmen NOW on Kickstarter!! @ 2014/06/04 16:03:33


Post by: grefven


I actually far more enjoy the open helmets over the closed, and if I were to back this for several troops, I'd for sure want to get more of the open ones instead.


Barbarian Hordesmen NOW on Kickstarter!! @ 2014/06/05 20:38:21


Post by: corgan


Craven. These guys have to be unlocked. Great looking minis!





Barbarian Hordesmen NOW on Kickstarter!! @ 2014/06/05 21:21:16


Post by: tre manor


Thanks Corgan!


Barbarian Hordesmen NOW on Kickstarter!! @ 2014/06/05 21:51:09


Post by: RiTides


Whoa. That is a sweet archer.

I think the hordesmen are okay, but this guy absolutely blows me away. Well done!


Barbarian Hordesmen NOW on Kickstarter!! @ 2014/06/05 22:00:40


Post by: Vorian


Yup, he's the star of the show so far!

Glad I finally managed to hear about a red box kickstarter in time to join it


Barbarian Hordesmen NOW on Kickstarter!! @ 2014/06/06 01:22:29


Post by: Gymnogyps


Regarding the horses... this is an area that I really would love to see your talent at work,Tre!

On the first horse, the neck is MUCH too thick and short. The neck and body look more bull-like than horse-like. The leg proportions are not quite right, either, especially the rear legs. The second wireframe looks a bit better, but overmuscling would be a concern.

Just to get it out of the way, I know this is fantasy and you can do whatever you want... so please take this as suggestions and encouragement!

So, first thing first... horse bulk is inversely proportional to speed. The stockiest, heaviest draft horses are bred to pull wagons and plows, not carry warriors in battle. They look slow, ponderous, and heavy because they ARE, relatively speaking. Generally a warhorse should be as fast, therefore light, as possible, while still able to carry the warrior and his armor. Smaller horses also eat and poop less, not a inconsiderable factor!

May I suggest looking at Friesian horses for physical conformation and proportions? Friesians are considered good approximations of (and are descended from) early medieval, light armored knight's horses. They look like this:
Spoiler:


If you want to mount up the heaviest armor guys, here's art of the Old English Black, an extinct, late medieval knight's horse, bred to carry heavy armor:
Spoiler:

If you want to have the biggest horse, the Percheron is debatable but is a possible knight's horse... They definitely pulled wagons etc in war, but are more draft-horse than warhorse:
Spoiler:



In comparison, Shires are examples of the biggest draft horses. They pull wagons, and they look like this:
Spoiler:


Draft horses are always hooked up to the load by the shoulders and that is where they bulk up. All those neck and shoulder muscles are for steadily pulling extremely heavy loads, not charging at enemies.

It might be hard to get proportions correct from photos due to foreshortening effects and only being able to see 2D in any given picture. I suggest, if you can, pick a breed that works, then pick up a Breyer or Safari Winner's Circle model horse of that breed for a 3D representation. They can be a bit pricy, but you can get a smallish version pretty cheaply, and they are known for being accurate representations. I know being able to hold it in your hand can really help!

Anyway, apologies for so much info and some big photos. I hope it helps! I already love the barbarians, so give me an excuse to buy horses! Lots of horses... I'd seriously buy multiples and change out all my cavalry models! Oh, and pretty please, offer them as separate sculpts?


Barbarian Hordesmen NOW on Kickstarter!! @ 2014/06/06 01:38:44


Post by: tre manor


Wow thanks for that very thorough and very helpful post Gymnogyps. i will definitely take that advice to heart. I think in my midn I see the HElsVakt Horses as being brutish so the Shires look like the most similar real horse breed to what I am tryign to achieve.

That said though I do take the actual realities into mind.


Barbarian Hordesmen NOW on Kickstarter!! @ 2017/12/06 02:17:50


Post by: Jehan-reznor


Don't believe the Hollywood Myth!

Them big warriors need big horses!



Barbarian Hordesmen NOW on Kickstarter!! @ 2014/06/06 04:09:16


Post by: Wehrkind


Great looking archer Tre! He would look right at home leading my Rackham Bow Drunes, and those lads desperately need a leader!

Also, fabulous post Gyps! Make an article of that please; I need to be able to link to it every time PP makes a new mounted model so I can point out the errors to certain gamers in my area...


Barbarian Hordesmen NOW on Kickstarter!! @ 2014/06/06 07:30:50


Post by: Fabio Bile


 Jehan-reznor wrote:
Don't believe the Hollywood Myth!

Them big warriors need big horses!


Er, that is the Hollywood myth. Historically that Arabian horse was probably a little bigger (if less stocky) than the small horses/big ponies the vikings would've ridden. In When the Raven Flies (Hrafninn Flýgur) they go about on cute little Icelandic horses, which are descended from the ones the Norse settlers brought over.

Which I guess is relevant for when the Njorn get mounted figures. The Helsvakt horses should be big and brutal to the point of improbability.


Barbarian Hordesmen NOW on Kickstarter!! @ 2014/06/10 21:22:39


Post by: corgan


Two new minis

Craven 2


Bloody Garm


And the link for the last update: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1103158358/barbarian-horde/posts/872706

This is my favourite KS at the moment and one of the best I have supported so far.


Barbarian Hordesmen NOW on Kickstarter!! @ 2014/06/10 21:27:43


Post by: highlord tamburlaine


Curious as to what Garm is going to be lugging over his shoulder. Does he have any facial features really showing through? Hard to see from those angles.

He's tempting me though...


Barbarian Hordesmen NOW on Kickstarter!! @ 2014/06/10 21:35:24


Post by: Trodax


I really love everything so far in this Kickstarter. Those Craven are turning out just fantastic!


Barbarian Hordesmen NOW on Kickstarter!! @ 2014/06/10 21:36:37


Post by: ATXMILEY


Are they in multiplart plastic? Or are they going to be another set of generic 28mm unipose metal/resin miniatuers?


Barbarian Hordesmen NOW on Kickstarter!! @ 0015/07/10 21:49:21


Post by: corgan


ATXMILEY wrote:
Are they in multiplart plastic? Or are they going to be another set of generic 28mm unipose metal/resin miniatuers?


I hope this will be the case (I know ). Besides they are metal. There is nothing bad in generic if the mini is of that high quality and so dynamic.


Barbarian Hordesmen NOW on Kickstarter!! @ 2014/06/10 22:40:15


Post by: tre manor


Metal is reliable and within my grasp. I am not opposed to plastic, but I Am a bit gun shy. If the demand were there I would produce in plastic. First though I would want to test the materials and process against my sculpting style before taking people's money on it. I did make the figures with plastic production in mind though. The hordesmen are made in 4 universally interchangeable parts. Torso, legs, head, right hand with weapon, and shield to fit over the back of the left hand. The heroes are made in a single piece but they could be cut to allow for plastic production if need be.

I am very skeptical of plastic production.

Garm's weapon is a ball mace, and his shield is still WIP as well. It will be spiked int he same manner as the hordesmen's shields are.





Barbarian Hordesmen NOW on Kickstarter!! @ 2014/06/10 23:12:40


Post by: corgan


 tre manor wrote:
Garm's weapon is a ball mace, and his shield is still WIP as well. It will be spiked int he same manner as the hordesmen's shields are.



If I may I would propose a big double axe or hammer. Something big for sure.


Barbarian Hordesmen NOW on Kickstarter!! @ 2014/06/10 23:56:48


Post by: ATXMILEY


 tre manor wrote:
Metal is reliable and within my grasp. I am not opposed to plastic, but I Am a bit gun shy. If the demand were there I would produce in plastic. First though I would want to test the materials and process against my sculpting style before taking people's money on it. I did make the figures with plastic production in mind though. The hordesmen are made in 4 universally interchangeable parts. Torso, legs, head, right hand with weapon, and shield to fit over the back of the left hand. The heroes are made in a single piece but they could be cut to allow for plastic production if need be.

I am very skeptical of plastic production.

Garm's weapon is a ball mace, and his shield is still WIP as well. It will be spiked int he same manner as the hordesmen's shields are.





I guess they'll be good for hero units



Barbarian Hordesmen NOW on Kickstarter!! @ 2014/06/11 01:17:31


Post by: RiTides


The second craven is excellent so far!

@Atxmiley- Tre's models are perfect for RPGs, characters, and the like. It is hard to make a unit with only 3 sculpts, particularly when they don't usually match up with alternatives. I have a bunch of metal bonebacks (goblin-like models) which he did many poses for, which is awesome! But there are still only 3 archers for the normal goblins- archers seem to get the short end of the stick



Barbarian Hordesmen NOW on Kickstarter!! @ 2014/06/11 08:46:36


Post by: Shieldwolf Miniatures


Very nice models, we really like what we are seeing here :-)


Barbarian Hordesmen NOW on Kickstarter!! @ 2014/06/11 14:18:08


Post by: tre manor


Thanks yall!


Barbarian Hordesmen NOW on Kickstarter!! @ 2014/06/11 18:28:45


Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured


Cracking stuff Tre (especially the craven)


Barbarian Hordesmen NOW on Kickstarter!! @ 2014/06/11 19:34:19


Post by: basement.dweller


YES! They're like Frosties! Now I don't feel so bad about not having many of the Confrontation Drunes.


Barbarian Hordesmen NOW on Kickstarter!! @ 2014/06/11 20:11:13


Post by: tre manor


Thanks Orlando and Basement dweller!


Barbarian Hordesmen NOW on Kickstarter!! @ 2014/02/12 11:56:12


Post by: Wehrkind


Sorry if I missed it, but was there a size comparison between the new barbarians somewhere? Definitely liking the Craven too!


Barbarian Hordesmen NOW on Kickstarter!! @ 2014/06/12 17:10:58


Post by: tre manor


Not yet but I will sort that out today.


Barbarian Hordesmen NOW on Kickstarter!! @ 2014/06/12 17:36:59


Post by: Perkustin


Wow those two Craven are utterly sublime, even if one isn't finished yet. I am really looking forward to the cavalry. You've got immense talent.


Barbarian Hordesmen NOW on Kickstarter!! @ 2014/06/12 18:07:32


Post by: Wehrkind


Sweet, thanks Tre!


Barbarian Hordesmen NOW on Kickstarter!! @ 2014/06/12 19:27:14


Post by: tre manor


thanks guys!


Barbarian Hordesmen NOW on Kickstarter!! @ 2014/06/12 22:57:41


Post by: plastictrees


I'm equally excited about the T-shirt as I am about the resin.
That might be because my last RedBox KS shirt is one of the only new pieces of clothing I've bought in a year or two...freaking kids.


Barbarian Hordesmen NOW on Kickstarter!! @ 2014/06/12 23:20:52


Post by: tre manor


hahahahah!


Barbarian Hordesmen NOW on Kickstarter!! @ 2014/06/13 10:53:54


Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured


Not KS related, but since this seems to be the most active RBG thread I'll post here

New WAMP painting contest for RBG stuff, details below, win store credit

http://www.wampforum.com/VB4/showthread.php?t=17155&p=229980#post229980

now back to our scheduled programing

Those Craven look so vicious, love em


Barbarian Hordesmen NOW on Kickstarter!! @ 2014/06/18 13:39:19


Post by: tre manor


Figured I would post the updates that I have posted recently. Fundign has gone really well the past couple of days.

T-shirt



Craven 3 WIP



Hero 3 Bloody Garm WIP


aaaaand a couple of possibilities...........






Currently we are working on stretch goal # 5 $19,500.00 Valda the Blackhearted, CRaven heroine. She is still a WIP but I intend to make significant progress on her today.

Cheers!

Tre'


Barbarian Hordesmen NOW on Kickstarter!! @ 2014/06/18 14:31:19


Post by: Alpharius


That shirt...so cool!

And NOT in black - huzzah!

I can pledge at the $1 level, add in $25 and get just the shirt, right?

That way I can support Tre now, and still be saving up to go 'big' on the upcoming project from him that I really want to see...


Barbarian Hordesmen NOW on Kickstarter!! @ 2014/06/18 15:26:05


Post by: RiTides


This model of smaller kickstarters focused on a more manageable project seems to be working really well for Red Box Games. Most of the sculpting looks like it will be done by the time this ends, which just leaves the casting and shipping. Not that that's a breeze, but it certainly helps to have everything almost complete and ready to enter that stage

Looking forward to seeing what you do for the Craven hero!



Barbarian Hordesmen NOW on Kickstarter!! @ 2014/06/18 15:38:17


Post by: tre manor


Thanks yall!

well Alph I will actually hav eto add a shipping only level pledge to cover that.... I had not considered peopel just wanting to buy the t-shirt.

And yeh the sculptign for this will either be done by the end date or within 3 days there after. That way I can immediately focus back on the " other " project......which I think I may have had a bit of an epiphany on last night.


Barbarian Hordesmen NOW on Kickstarter!! @ 2014/06/18 16:16:01


Post by: Alpharius


Tre - ok, once that option is available, I'm in for a shirt!


Barbarian Hordesmen NOW on Kickstarter!! @ 2014/06/18 16:45:03


Post by: Wehrkind


Alph, I haven't gone in yet, but probably will when the heroine is posted. You can probably piggy back on mine then, as I or RiTides will no doubt mail you something this summer.


Barbarian Hordesmen NOW on Kickstarter!! @ 2014/06/19 12:24:01


Post by: weeble1000


Ah, zombie Helsvekt! Very nice!


Barbarian Hordesmen NOW on Kickstarter!! @ 2014/06/20 23:49:58


Post by: edlowe


So everybody whos interested knows its the final 48 hours!

only $1800 till we unlock the Draugr.



Barbarian Hordesmen NOW on Kickstarter!! @ 2014/06/21 17:16:43


Post by: Wehrkind


So, just to be clear on how this works, we pledge for Hordesmen X, then add dollars for the unlocks (52$ for one of all the current unlocks minus the undead guys who are 20$).

So a pledge for one of everything minus undead comes to 92$, right?


Barbarian Hordesmen NOW on Kickstarter!! @ 2014/06/21 20:14:29


Post by: tre manor


Well the Undead will be $30.00 per set once they unlock but they have not unlocked yet.

Otherwise that is correct.


Barbarian Hordesmen NOW on Kickstarter!! @ 2014/06/21 21:31:43


Post by: Wehrkind


Cool, Pledged!


Barbarian Hordesmen NOW on Kickstarter!! @ 2014/06/22 17:36:23


Post by: czakk


On the last couple of hours to pledge. Next goal is the undead norsemen.


Barbarian Hordesmen NOW on Kickstarter!! @ 2014/06/22 20:04:37


Post by: edlowe


$242 till the last stretch goal is reached with two hours remaining


Barbarian Hordesmen NOW on Kickstarter!! @ 2014/06/22 21:31:48


Post by: tre manor


Draugr unlocked!!


Barbarian Hordesmen NOW on Kickstarter!! @ 2014/06/22 23:00:22


Post by: basement.dweller


Congratulations on a successful campaign


Barbarian Hordesmen NOW on Kickstarter!! @ 2014/06/22 23:31:07


Post by: Bolognesus


Declined to jump in at the last minute - no intl pledge level for draugr (and getting the $48 intl add-on level made it... expensive... to say the least to buy them as one sole add-on). Oh well, I'll be sure to get them at retail


Barbarian Hordesmen NOW on Kickstarter!! @ 2014/06/22 23:33:02


Post by: Wehrkind


Woohoo! Congratulations Tre! Look forward to seeing this bad boy in my mailbox!


Barbarian Hordesmen NOW on Kickstarter!! @ 2014/06/23 01:17:57


Post by: weeble1000


Congrats on another successful compaign Tre! Looking forward to seeing the models in the flesh, and looking forward to seeing your upcoming project.


Barbarian Hordesmen NOW on Kickstarter!! @ 2014/06/23 01:23:03


Post by: Triple9


Congrats Tre. I managed to show some restraint this time around and just went in for Craven and Valda. I'll pick up the Draugr at retail for sure.


Barbarian Hordesmen NOW on Kickstarter!! @ 2014/06/23 01:52:39


Post by: tre manor


Thanks Weeble! I will be in touch with you int he very very near future! And thanks Triple9.


Barbarian Hordesmen NOW on Kickstarter!! @ 2014/06/23 05:44:27


Post by: Azazelx


Congratulations, Tre'!


Barbarian Hordesmen NOW on Kickstarter!! @ 2014/06/23 12:35:53


Post by: weeble1000


Tre,

I have a question about the questionnaire for this campaign.

I love the craven. I have tons of RBG hordesmen already, and I'd like to know if we will be able to get multiple craven sets? Last time I checked the pledge levels it looked like there was only a level for 1 set of three craven models. If I want multiple sets, and only craven, is that something that I can do?


Barbarian Hordesmen NOW on Kickstarter!! @ 2014/06/24 15:12:57


Post by: tre manor


Thanks Az!

Weeble........hmmm....well you knwo I really do not want to over complicate things and the craven are really priced about as low as I can make them. I think that tyring to change the structure of them now might REALLY muck things up.


Barbarian Hordesmen NOW on Kickstarter!! @ 2014/09/01 19:21:31


Post by: tre manor


hey everybody,

Just wanted to pass along that the kickstarter Helsvakt and Draugr are available for pre-order through the web store. I just wanted to get a bit of an idea how much extra to order on the initial run so as not to turn up short once the figures are shipped to the KS backers.

Cheers!

http://www.red-box-games.com/













ALSO NOW AVAILABLE IN METAL!!!!!




and Morgrimn in warp though i am working on getting a good pict


Barbarian Hordesmen NOW on Kickstarter!! @ 2014/10/19 21:47:20


Post by: Trodax


Belegast!!! Have been waiting for him, very nice.