Good decision Tom, far better to have a finished project than a discarded one because you lost inspiration half way through.

@CMDante: I believe thats a photoshop Major Tom did, the official StormRaven is still the 'chibi-hawk' afaik.

Lol thanks boys, that is indeed a Photoshop job I did the day the first photo leaked. Unfortunately nothing has changed on the 'ol chibi-hawk design, but I will give em credit for at least putting VTOL thrusters in the front like I imagined!

As for the painting, you are exactly right Dante, there is only so much you can get done in a year vs the standards you set for yourself. I honestly think that if this works out, I.e GMM gets recognition for the alpha job and advertises it without my brush, so. Win for him, and then I o enough afterwards to call the my own again too... Best of both worlds.

I told GMM, there is probably a he'll of a lot of half finished stuff sitting on shelves out there in mid to high end hobbyists homes... Marketing to them as a way to effectively kick start a project back into full activity/ speed things up is probably something a lot of people would consider with relief... Showing they are a viable partner for attempts at demon level stuff or attempts at demon level stuff could be very good for business indeed...

Make sure you link us the new PM blog when you do start the Army side of things. And keep updating this when you get pics from GMM and your touches to them as well!

Don't worry! Still tons and tons to do here! plenty of termies incoming, maybe some BA stuff snuck in too!

Thanks for the link to the OSL tutorial! I think I am going to give it a try, fingers crossed.

Also great job on the termies and I am sure that no one would mind if you post all your work on this thread.

Mike

Thank you sir, happy to help. After all, I only know this stuff because others here and on B&C were kind enough and patient enough to share their techniques!

Faves include:
- CMDante's sponge chipping
- BrushSlips Flesh tutorials
- Various WD Masterclass articles, especially the BadMoon Warboss for covering a ton of techniques, and their NMM on Sanguinor https://www.games-workshop.com/gws/content/article.jsp?catId=&categoryId=800032a§ion=whiteDwarf&aId=2000031a
- Lunchbox's Wet Blending
- D.E.M's osl, previously linked - http://www.bolterandchainsword.com
/index.php?autocom=ineo&showarticle=127
- www.kaple.dk, great tutorials on various techniques. Might need to go to the 'old site' though

Alright, I have mini's on my table, so excuse me! lol

The source lighting on that Lightening Claw termie is....awesome!

So is that gentleman in your Avatar btw! And thanks!

Really nice job, Tom. I'm a big fan of the red on the terminators and the cultists are to die for. However, I can't shake the feeling that the blue OSL on Brother Omnio is a bit overwhelming. Could just be me though.

I saw something similar on eBay, and said to myself, just once, I'm gonna go bonkers with the source lighting, and see if I can pull it off... Most seem to like it judging by the gallery scores, but I totally understand why it's not for some. Don't worry, it's a lightning claw onlybeffect, and that's the only set of lightning claws I own! Lol

Surely you mean Lighting claw........

I like it, sure its OTT but its a great example of osl in all its glory.

MajorTom11 wrote:
- BrushSlips Flesh tutorials

This sounds interesting - got a link?

It has been a great blog and all the little extra touches really made the difference!!

Alpharius wrote:

MajorTom11 wrote:
- BrushSlips Flesh tutorials

This sounds interesting - got a link?

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/300322.page

Not neccesarily those specific colors, but he gets really nice tones and smoothness I find -

Misgula, my standards and extra touches are a direct attempt to approach your level sir... Thank you very much!

Just started reading from the beginning, great stuff. You have a fan dex for a genestealer cult or is that somewhere earlier on? ( its getting close to bedtime not enough time to read it all )

btemple0 wrote:Just started reading from the beginning, great stuff. You have a fan dex for a genestealer cult or is that somewhere earlier on? ( its getting close to bedtime not enough time to read it all )

WHAT????

YOU DIDNT READ ALL 22 PAGES AND 600+ POSTS?????????

THATS....

Perfectly reasonable at this point lol!

There are links to the fan dex on page 19, at the bottom of the post with all the inspiration images.


On the project front, I took a little break to continue work on Astorath the Grimm and Sanguinor... Both of these bought from VERY talented painters (GD winner) Pedro Rufo, and Sanguinor from a new Polish group BrushBrothers. I love them. I also had to work on them myself a bit so I could feel they were mine since they will now be part of my planned BA army! I really think they turned out amazing, especially next to each other, they really show the duality of vengeful justice/martial nobility. Also settled my basing scheme, hopefully you gusy will like.

Next up, wip on the last 4 termies to complete the contents of the SH box to the best of my ability, also got ambitious and went back to touch up the bases of my prefvious terms with watch guts I ordered from ebay. I like they cluttered dirty corridor look

After that, the hybrids are away to GMM, and that leaves me to paint up the 2 custom Magi, and then it will be time to transition to Eggroll style airbrush madness!

I've gone a bit crazy buying minis off ebay, I now have a significant BA Army waiting for loving -

-Dantenator (Model has an SB built into a PF and a powersword, I kinda figured you could either use him as a term captain and choose between the sword or fist, or, alternately, counts as Dante)

- Astorath

- Sanguinor

- Golden Tycho

Captain and command squad, banner, apoth, CC, sarge with PF

Librarian w/Fw

Termie Librarian (callistarius... counts as mephiston??)

16X termies (space hulk squads on 40mm bases, plus another sarge with powersword and bolter (culln), 3 sb and PF, 1 sb and cyclone launcher)

5X BA honor guard with Jump packs

- 5X sanguinary guard, chapter banner, 2xinferno pistol
- 5X sanguinary guard, Powerfist, 2xinferno pistol
- 5X sanguinary guard (not built... I assume go PF and 2x inferno?)

-10X DC, bolters, 2 with pw and 1 TH

- 5X DC (think will split and mix these parts up with tacs, then make a Sternguard unit with melta madness)

10 man assault squad, sarge with pf and shield, melta
10 man assault squad, sarge with pf, melta
10 man assault squad, sarge with pf, melta

10 man Tac squad, Sarge with PF, special - melta (plasma option), ML
10 man Tac squad, Sarge with PF, special - melta (plasma option), ML
10 man Tac squad, sarge with power sword, special - flamer, ML

5 devs, sarge with pf, 2 las, 1 plas and 1 hb

Rhino magnetized to Razorback, HB turret or lasplas option

Rhino magnetized to Razorback lasplas option

LandRaider Phobos with sb, magnetized with redeemer option

3X furioso, config undecided, but thinking about 1 of each option to keep things fun

1 MajorTom pattern StormRaven

Bold = done
Ital = IP

As you can see, I have an absolute crapton of work ahead of me, but I consider it an airbrushing challenge, Am looking to get high quality much faster than my normal way!

Comments welcome if you feel like it!

although I will say this thread did help me score some nice resin bases for my own BA army.

A whole ARMY?! I'm not sure I even understand the concet of painting so many figures but I commend your dedication an ambition!

It will certainly be a sight to see when finished I'll wager!

A whole army... There is something about seeing a table full of these little dudes and the satisfaction of making it through.

It took me a year to paint 60 or so guys to the standards seen in this blog, so I figure by switching to Eggrolls methods, I can get the army done in another year or so. I think his work and army are amazing if you havent seen it yet. I also enjoy the challenge of mastering (to a functional degree) new techniques... Last year, I had never done OSL, never sculpted anything, never done nmm, used weathering powders of plasticard, pinned anything or used resin of any kind... now I have, and it's awesome!

That and I went really, really crazy on ebay LOL. There were so many good deals! I got most of the list above for around 500 bucks alltogher, LR, 2 razors, 30 assault, 30 tacticals, command squad, honor guard, 10 dc's StormRaven and 3 Furiosos??? I can't stop myself lol! Now I want another SR, drop pods and Baals... but I will refrain, this was more than enough for now. Damn you Eggroll!

Got a link for the lazy to Eggroll's stuff?

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/210/313003.page

He is believe or not new to hobbying relatively, he has combined a lot or Lbursleys techniques but in my opinion taken them further and combined them with appropriate freehand work and truly epic color choices. Choosing the right reds at the right mix is tougher than it sounds.

Anyways, I find his work inspirational.

MajorTom11 wrote:A whole army... There is something about seeing a table full of these little dudes and the satisfaction of making it through.

It took me a year to paint 60 or so guys to the standards seen in this blog, so I figure by switching to Eggrolls methods, I can get the army done in another year or so. I think his work and army are amazing if you havent seen it yet. I also enjoy the challenge of mastering (to a functional degree) new techniques... Last year, I had never done OSL, never sculpted anything, never done nmm, used weathering powders of plasticard, pinned anything or used resin of any kind... now I have, and it's awesome!

That and I went really, really crazy on ebay LOL. There were so many good deals! I got most of the list above for around 500 bucks alltogher, LR, 2 razors, 30 assault, 30 tacticals, command squad, honor guard, 10 dc's StormRaven and 3 Furiosos??? I can't stop myself lol! Now I want another SR, drop pods and Baals... but I will refrain, this was more than enough for now. Damn you Eggroll!

Remind me to post a pick of my model wardrobe and bitz boxes sometime - I know your pain!

Cheers,

Dante

got any combi meltas or meltas kicking around ??

Not got much new marine stuff to be fair - plastics scouts and scout snipers are the newest marine kits I have.

I went of marines a while ago and have been spending money wildly on pretty much everything else since!

Combi Melta is from commander kit, reg melta in the Tac boxes... If you have any let me know, I have a bunch of stuff to offer you may be interested in too!

We need to put our bits hordes to good use!

I just finished reading to this point, and everything is still outstanding in quality.

A small off track update -

This is a mini I ordered from BattleBrush Studio, I was so Impressed when I saw it on eBay I had to grab it. On receiving it, one of the wings was lamentably chipped up, so I repainted them red, added thruster glow, and several other little touches, most importantly recoloring the base from grey to Terracotta, what I have decided will be the basing scheme of my upcoming BA army.

Then we have Astorath the Grimm, the wings have had some freehand work and highlights put in beyond the airbrushing, and several other tiny and subtle adjustments. Also based on Terracotta. I love the two of these guys again beside each other, they are now a perfect representation of the grim detroyer/noble warrior aspects of Sanguinius.

















Astoraths wings need a matte varnish, little shiny still -

Moving on, the final 4 minis and the last steps to completing the contents of the Space Hulk box are WIP, Reds are done, blue halfway done... just a teaser!



Now, my scheme for the hybrids has been narrowed to some form of mixed scheme based on these two paintjobs -



And CMDante's oft referenced IG



Somewhere in between these two is the 4th gen's scheme, and elements of the 2nd and 3rd gens too...

Thougts?

The non-metallic metal on both Astorath and the Sanguinator looks fantastic, but I think the colors on both their wings is too vivid. Maybe tone it down a bit?

For the 4th gen colors, I think a darker scheme closer to the first pic would work better. It would seem to fit the aesthetic of the cult better, in my opinion.

Keep it up, you're doing great!

Thanks for the comments dude! I see what you are saying regarding the color, but I personally quite like it. I find sanguinor balanced out and inclusive with other BA's with a bit more red, and for Astorath, for his 'He stands apart' fluff, I went with a color on his wings that I will not use anywhere in the rest of the army, that ghostly Jade/blue tone.

Thank for your words on the color scheme! I would just find it a shame if I couldn't do chipping on the armor!

Oh wow! Its all good but Astorath is absolutely haunting. One of my favourite minis ive ever seen i think! Seriously the wing colour is awesome!

edi: Have you got a link to a good osl tutorial. I tried o do some on my Circle Orboros (in sig ) butit didnt come out so well and i was wondering how to improve? Thanks!

Vitruvian XVII wrote:Oh wow! Its all good but Astorath is absolutely haunting. One of my favourite minis ive ever seen i think! Seriously the wing colour is awesome!

edi: Have you got a link to a good osl tutorial. I tried o do some on my Circle Orboros (in sig ) butit didnt come out so well and i was wondering how to improve? Thanks!

Thank you sir, I'm glad you like!

The osl: http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/index.php?showtopic=117358.
The vermin lord wd masterclass article from one of last years white dwarfs was also very good!

MajorTom11 wrote:

OMG this is perfect for an Appleseed convertion squad! i mean, an E.S.W.A.T. unit whit Dunan and Briareos! love it!

Lol I have no idea what you talking about (never seen Appleseed) but thanks! =)

Cheer Tom, good call on the WD, i know ive got that one somewhere!

Major, are you serious!? well, ok.....look at his!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_mxteEm7Iw&feature=related

just to know u: this movie is directed from John Woo and the original series is created from Shirow Masamune, the same author of Ghost in The Shell

i'll add a wallpaper of a E.S.W.A.T. squad whit their landmate (a sort of tau broadside battlesuit)

Interesting, I haven't watched anime in a long time, since the Macross plus days! I was expecting something more like Patlabor. May give it a watch sometime!

Have to finish off those 4 last guys this week, that is my goal!

Then it will be time to paint the 1 of each hybrid generation as a template for GMM!

Well I guess I need to invest 5 dollars into some wifi for my own computer, so I can download the genestealer cult dex, then buy a bunch of genestealers, because im not modifying my space hulk ones.

I will be putting up a bunch of stuff in the swapshop soon, including a NIB SpaceHulk and a few NOS Genestealers, keep an eye out!

Tom, Sanguinus and Astorath both look stunning! Excellent NMM work. I particularly liike the way Astorath's face came out. Keep it up!

really nice work, you have made me want to go and buy astorath. I'll let you explain it to my missus

These 2 are the only 2 models shown not completely painted by me, Astorath is by Pedro Rufo, a GD winner, and Sanguinor comes from BrushBrothers in Poland... I did work further on them though but I can't do NMM as well as the Sanguinor... YET! I plan on learning from Sanguinor when I finish up the Dantenator!

More work was done on Astorath than Sanguinor by me, Sanguinor is only the base and wings, Astorath was more of an overall layering and detailing to push him a bit further -


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What can I say, I love seeing other peoples work I admire to learn from it, but at the same time, if it's going to sit in my collection, I have to do some extra work to make it my own!

You could get some Sang Guard to practice further on. Plus have some kick ass Sang Guard.

Oh, I already have 2 squads
3rd squad is still on sprue... there are a few BA squads in varying states of completion, you will see them soon enough!

One thing though, I will only ever use NMM on characters if appropriate, NMM on troops is too much for me lol!

Just like pinning and magnetizing troops, BUT I have seen some guy at my FLGS do that to some of his space marines because his army has been like 15 diffrent chapters.

Tom, nice man!

The sanguinor is purdy! I for one, love what you did with the multi tone wings.. I think you're right it really ties into the red's for the rest of the army and compliments the terracotta well! Brilliant additions to a very fine mini!

Astorath looks great too, nice idea on the jade wings. Could you go into how you got the icey/jade effect a little more? Aside from the paintjob.. I really really dislike that model. It's hard for me to ever look at it, let alone like an interpretation of it.. I think it's the crap pose. It just doesnt make sense.. at all. In any case, your one looks great and the terracotta idea totally works with him!

Can't wait to see the rest of those termy's bud.. on the edge of my seat for them.

Whoa thanks man! That was a very nice compliment mate, I am particularly glad you liked the terracotta bases!

For the wings, chaos black base, then very light zenithal airbrush of Turquoise, then go in and gently layer on the turquoise, hopefully quite thinned with thinner not water, and keep going till you get a pretty smooth gradient. The paint needs to be thinned enough to be quite translucent for this to work. A few layers like this, then finally, mix in some cold grey (elf grey?) into the turquoise, thin again and gently work into an edge highlight.

The coloring of the jade lessens with each row of feathers until the top/inner most rows just get an edge highlight in thin jade, followed by a spot of the jade/grey mix.

Most of my techniques for vivid colors involve the patient blending of 1, maybe 2 colors over and over to get as smooth a transition as possible. The reds on the termies for example. Then a mixed lighter edge highlight, with possibly another one after the first if it looks good. \

Really appreciate the kind words Monkeh, hope the above makes sense!

Who did the mini in the picture with a splash of red and an A? It'd be nice to see more of his work.

Everyone's work in this thread really, your's ofcourse, Dante's is always a a great pleasure to see and this splashA guy's stuff is hot.

I don't know who that was! I saw it on cool mini and copied it, but whoever it was didn't save the name of the file as Princeps or anything like that. I would really have liked to have seen more of his work too!

Totally did Tom! Thanks mate. Will put that in my pile of emailed colour recipies for sure! Little beyond my meager painting skills at the moment but I'll stay playing with it for sure. I love the colour effect you get from it.

Meager he says... first, you chose a white army, that's bollocks my friend! I wouldn't want to take that on lol!

I didnt see much painting yet, but if your conversion and sculpting skills are anything to go by, I have a feeling you'll be fine

All I can say is that blending thin transluscent layers into one another is the absolute smoothest, most vivid way I have found so far to brush paint. And I haven't even been using white bases which is something I really should be doing to leverage this technique to its fullest. Misgula and Lunchbox are particular examples of the color depth you can achieve with a little patience and experience!

One thing I would definetly recommend for you Monkeh is an airbrush. It will do insane things for your army paint scheme, get the shoulders serperately with reds, then go to town on everything else with whites, you will bang out an army so fast and so well it will make your head spin!

Check out Miniature Mentors Dreadnaught tutorial with Mathieu Fontaine, it will completely sell you on doing the whites this way, trust me, it will be the best 25 bucks you could spend!

Probably should have posted this on your thread lol...

MajorTom11 wrote:I haven't watched anime in a long time, since the Macross plus days!

Damn you sir,
You just made me get my Robotech series box out again. Hello there Rick Hunter!

MajorTom11 wrote:Interesting, I haven't watched anime in a long time, since the Macross plus days! I was expecting something more like Patlabor. May give it a watch sometime!

Have to finish off those 4 last guys this week, that is my goal!

Then it will be time to paint the 1 of each hybrid generation as a template for GMM!

a little thing if you gonna see the movie: there is another movie of Appleseed (that's the name of it) and i think you have to whatc it first or you can't understand the world created by Shirow to move his character. also, you found the mecha design a bit different. in the first movie Appleseed (2004) you can see the original design, maybe a bit rough, but really amazing. plus, at the end there is something really impressive and good for a scratch build!

Hey MajorTom, how did you mount the terminators on the bases? Did you cut them off their little red base or did you cut a hole in the circular base and slide them in? I'm curious as I recently got a caludio off ebay and would like to try and make him a centre piece, which would require a nice base, which means his little red base has to go. Thanks for any help!

Cut them off, very carefully. I used sprue clippers to cut off everything but the bits around their feet, then with a scalpel, slowly and carefully work cut the feet off with a rocking motion. Don't try to power through, the plastic is quite hard for one, but if your angle is off you could slice half the foot off!

Cut in a ways on all sides of the foot with your blade angled slightly away from the body, then when you are a good bit through on all sides, you can apply blunt pressure and get it all off. After that, just shave off the bottom until it is flat, that part is easy! Good luck and don't forget to show us your results when you are done!

MajorTom11 wrote:Cut them off, very carefully. I used sprue clippers to cut off everything but the bits around their feet, then with a scalpel, slowly and carefully work cut the feet off with a rocking motion. Don't try to power through, the plastic is quite hard for one, but if your angle is off you could slice half the foot off!

Cut in a ways on all sides of the foot with your blade angled slightly away from the body, then when you are a good bit through on all sides, you can apply blunt pressure and get it all off. After that, just shave off the bottom until it is flat, that part is easy! Good luck and don't forget to show us your results when you are done!

Thanks for the tip! And I've been meaning to start a blog, maybe this'll encourage me to figure out how to set the camera to micro and take some photos of my other BA You're an inspiration Tom, I know I can't paint as well as you but I'll damn well try!

Wow, thanks man, although there are plenty of folks on here far worthier of that title than me. Just remember everything you need is here or elsewhere online, the advice, feedback and tutorials to go as far as you could possible want!

Best of luck sir, make sure and let me know when your stuff is up!

Fatty_Tuna wrote: You're an inspiration Tom!

I second this notion.

Well, this is it!

The final 4 termies of the original box are DONE, 1.5 years later!!! This means the entire box, Genestealers and all has been painted to the best of my ability, and I must say it's been quite a ride!

Learned a lot on the way, and this set will always have special meaning to me as the thing that got me back into hobbying.

So, without further ado, the final four -

Brother Lexicanum Callistarius





Brother Sargeant Gideon -







Brother Valencio









and finally, last one, Brother Leon -
















Aaaaaannnnnnd that's it!

Still a few minor touch ups here and here, a brush on matt coat, but for all intents and purposes, job done.

The hybrids and final five termies will have minor work done on them in the next few weeks in preperation for heading to GMM. You will see them again down the line, with and unveil for when the ultimate complete SH set is revealed! (Ultimate as in every model for every edition, not as in I am the best lol just in case that was misread!)

For now, it is going to be work on the MajorTom pattern StormRaven, after than, it is time to being a love affair with my airbrush, and begin in on my now very large BA army waiting to start! Dantenator is not forgotten either, and will be reserved as a treat to myself for getting a few other items done...

That's it for now on this old thread for a little while anyhow! The pics didnt turn out very well I know, but when I get everything back, I will take a well and proper photo shoot of everything sometime in late spring, with no shinyness from always shooting photos at night under direct lighting lol.

Cheers to everyone who has supported me in slogging through this project!

Well done! Always nice to see the end of a project. Looking forward to the better pics!

Thank you sir, better pics area must, there is a lot of subtle color gradations I am failing to capture here...

*Wholehearted Applause*

I commend you on this whole project, absolutely staggering detail and just plain awesomeness!!!!

Does that mean the Hybrids have been bumped back a bit then?

Cant wait to see a finished "box set" shot.

(Now all you need is a 3D board.......)

Stunning work. Congratulations on completing it

top work mate that libarian is stunning.

Vitruvian XVII wrote:*Wholehearted Applause*

I commend you on this whole project, absolutely staggering detail and just plain awesomeness!!!!

Does that mean the Hybrids have been bumped back a bit then?

Cant wait to see a finished "box set" shot.

(Now all you need is a 3D board.......)

Hybrids are on schedule, but the schedule is as follows -

- Next few weeks, final clean up, sanding, priming, possibly rivets
- At least one painted up version to serve as guide for GMM, hopefully 1 of each generation
- Off to GMM sometime in April
- Back in May/June, assumedly
- Then work begins on doing time consuming extra detail I would never expect a commision service to do
- Possibly add an APC
- Final Group shots, all SH models, and thread completed, project wrapped up!

- Possibly a surprise announcement about something that may happen, that should be of great interest to those following this thread


3D board lol, It would be cool and fit with the amount of work put into this, but, realistically, It would be painted and photographed, and then probably go in a closet forever lol

Thanks for the comments though guys, well received!

That 3D board may not be that far off, just might cost a lot

Check this out http://armorcast.com/store/index.php?cPath=120_153

Awesome job by the way. I can't wait to see your Stormraven

Mike

Great thread, Just went through it. Your painting skiils are fantastic, and thaks for the WIPs and explination on how you do it too. Also after reading this thread I want to do some hybrid conversions, looks fun

Thanks for the inspiration, and good luck finishing before 2016 lol!

Looking great! I'll eagerly be awaiting the better pics so I can properly admire them.

I have yet to figure out how to take a good picture of a mini.. I have a lightbox, a ridiculously expensive camera from work... everything I should need, it's a huge frustration lol.

That and painting skin, I still stink at that too!

Have you tried increasing the shutter speed or changing your aperature settings yet?

HDRI with a Canon D5... although the last batch was just a normal powershot. It's getting the lighting right that eff's me, I always want to shoot when I finish, which is usually 3AM... I will take my time with daylight as an option next time round, but yes I do cycle the f-stop and iso etc, along with multiple distances and focal lengths...

It kinda makes it more frustrating that I know what I am doing in photography for non- mini shots lol!

Once you figure it out make sure to write it down for us.

I will, I saw some interesting setups recently involving one of those super cheap ikea frosted plastic waste bins being used as a diffuser/lightbox... the result actually looked very nice lol -

congrats on finishing the set and having it come out so nice (especially after the great overcoat scare of 2010!). i suppose you'll celebrate with some champagne while belting out Frère Jacques or whatever it is you french canadians do!

Oh well done sir! Fantastic job all over, and huge congratulations for finishing the project to these standards. Will definitely be keeping an eye out for those better pics, and glad to see the hybrids are still on your schedule.

LOL

1.) I'm not French Canadian for the record, I'm a first gen Anglo with Brit Mom and Spanish Dad

2.) If I WAS French, it would be a poutine (fries, gravy and cheddar cheese curds) with Foie Gras, followed with a Labatt Blue chaser LOL. Then when I was done eating, I would go about my business worshiping hockey and crushing English speakers and immigrant rights lol!

Okay, i hear ya'.

You cant tantalise us like that Tom!!! Tell us, tell us!

Btw, possible APC:

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/275225.page

That's exactly the one I was thinking of! (Note my comment in that thread )

As to 'the secret', can't disclose just yet

Oh ok, great minds think alike and all that!

thats cool, i like surprises anyway

Vitruvian XVII wrote:Okay, i hear ya'.

You cant tantalise us like that Tom!!! Tell us, tell us!

Btw, possible APC:

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/275225.page

That looks a lot like a styker APC

As a Canadian do you know Julian, Ricky and Bubbles?

Wow... Just, wow...

@btemple0 - Some kinda cross between a Stryker and 40k aesthetics is exactly what I want. The kit Vitruvian pointed to is pretty damned close, although I would like something a bit longer and taller like the actual stryker itself though...

@tipios - Lol my wife is from Nova Scotia dude, I am not a big fan, but I am familiar with them lol

@Beer'n'bolters - first, awesome name lol, 2nd, thanks very much!

The freehand on the Libby's shoulder blew my mind a little.

Awesome to it finished. Excellent work, especially the librarian. Can't wait for the stormraven, ordered three for myself and will also be attempting your pattern!

congratulations it has definately been worth the time and effort.mind blowing work.

Awesome work Tom, loving the final 4!

whalemusic360 wrote:The freehand on the Libby's shoulder blew my mind a little.

Just a little bit? I dun goofed then,back to the paint pots, it needs to be a lot!

Thanks a lot everyone -

To the photo front, I'm thinking I need to dullcoat them, which is horrifying for me as I'm sure those of you who have been following this thread can imagine. I am pretty sure the Testor's stuff will be fine, however, when I look at the reds that are dullcoated they lost a lot of the vibrancy the raw models have. It's tough to bring myself to do it, but, alas, it has to happen. This will take care of the shine, but I still need to figure out a way to capture the full color range and small details.

Still, when I see all 40 or so models sitting there together all done and junk, can't help but feel happy about it

Haave you tried a lot of indirec tlightning and no flash inside? Most good camera's can compensate pretty well for a lack of light these days. Works, for me, but then my painting isn't really up to par with yours, of course...

No flash ever bud, my light set-up could be better though. I use a daylight desklamp usually which results in the harsh shine... as said though, this is usually due to it being 3am and being too tired/lazy to set up a diffuser lol

Use 3 desk lamps with daylight bulbs and parchment paper for diffusers one above one on ether side.
Use a black background to hide the back light turn out the room lighting and go to it.

Pretty much spot on to what I used on the finshed pics of the other termies, I have a lightbox that I should use more. Only been using a two light setup though, will have to figure out how to get one above, the lightbox is pretty big!

MajorTom11 wrote:

whalemusic360 wrote:The freehand on the Libby's shoulder blew my mind a little.

Just a little bit? I dun goofed then,back to the paint pots, it needs to be a lot!

Thanks a lot everyone -

To the photo front, I'm thinking I need to dullcoat them, which is horrifying for me as I'm sure those of you who have been following this thread can imagine. I am pretty sure the Testor's stuff will be fine, however, when I look at the reds that are dullcoated they lost a lot of the vibrancy the raw models have. It's tough to bring myself to do it, but, alas, it has to happen. This will take care of the shine, but I still need to figure out a way to capture the full color range and small details.

Still, when I see all 40 or so models sitting there together all done and junk, can't help but feel happy about it

Sorry, you'll have to send me that one and try again

Loving the last 4, especially the one with the autocannon!

Much like there are no Wolves on Fenris, there are no Autocannons in those pictures - back to WFB with you,l rookie!

LOL, poor RiTides. Trying to comment on an Assault Cannon and gets blown away.

Thats not so bad, it is not like he is trying to identify a helicopter by the sound it makes or tell the difference between a RPG-2 and a RPG-7.

RiTides knows we love him, so no worries there!

We will just call him the gentleman with the large boomstick and stick to that eh?

MajorTom11 wrote:We will just call him the gentleman with the large boomstick....

Who? the terminator or RTides?

Whatever blows up your skirt dude

*Bigger post with actual content to come*

In the mean time, I just want to say grats dude! Seriously, this is an incredible endeavour that you've pulled off incredibly well! Significantly impressed and you never fail to inspire!

You are too kind as always Monkeh, I appreciate it greatly though

I just hope the hybrids turn out as I hope they will, and then the circle will be complete

Back to magnetizing dreads and measuring storm ravens

MajorTom11 wrote:
Back to magnetizing dreads and measuring storm ravens

Oooh! Pics?

That will be another thread

Then I'll be sure to take a look.

Thanks dude, the dreads will probably appear in the SR thread, and then everything should show up in a new BA thread once the Raven is ready -

Man i just tunned in yesterday and have read the whole blog (in 2 parts lol) and all i can say is i take my hat off to you sir!!!!! Awsome job mate i got a box of space hulk here and you make me wanna open it and start painting it straight away...... once agian nice work looking foward to seeing the dante figure painting finished.

Thanks dude, and welcome to Dakka! I am flattered you took the time to slog through all 24 pages, that's a marathon lol.

As to Dantenator, he is coming, the plan is: 1st StormRaven, 2nd airbrush madness 3rd Dantenator 4th everything else lol

with the quality and time spent on this project its kinda rude not to read all the blog just to read all the fluff! I just finished painting a NMM Sanguinor myself...not to the lvl of your mini and I am in the process of tossing up weather to start a BA army and get rid o my templars.....agian awsome and inspiring work will be keeping a close eye on this blog 4sho!

MajorTom11 wrote:Been on hiatus a while, but I FINALLY recovered the Termies after Spray Disaster 2010. Remember all thread readers, after a frosty spray incident, coat them with gloss SPRAY (not brush on), reapply dullcoat (testors or tamiya, never GW again lol), touch up and voila, you can get back about 90-95% of the original quality...

So, here, is the completed squad #1!

First up dear Sgt. Lorenzo, pretty much as last seen wit a few tweaks here and there -



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Hi Tom

Your figures are beautiful - love them!

I have just got a SH set and was wondering how the 40mm bases go with the actual game? do you have any issues in crowded rooms with the figures overlapping?

I'm just wondering if I should magnetise them to 40k bases so they can do both tasks or just put them on 40mm bases.

Many thanks

Tim

I have SH termies with 40mm bases and they do get in the way quite a bit and have to be overlapped when they are behind each other.

Hope this helps!

Cain

Spot on!

They can fit, but not well. The game is still completely playable though, esp. once they move out a bit. But they definitely are about 15-20% too big for the squares.

Had I known then what I know now, I would certainly have magnetized -

Thanks for the compliments!

Awesome - thanks for the quick response!

Well thanks for your interest too!

Every time i see one of those terminators painted from the SH box, I cannot help but be tempted to open my box and start painting the termies.... I need to finish other stuff first.

What an epic!

I read through the whole thread last night: Legendary.

Fantastic paintjobs and creativity.. could not believe the varnish catastrophe, but well done for cooly considering, then applying the remedy.

It's not merely a thread -it's a story!

- Am a big SH/Stealer fan meself. Just converted a stealer infant, take a look at my blog link- I'd be genuinely interested to hear a fellow Stealer enthusiasts thoughts :}

Thanks man!

Btw, I suggest everyone else have a look at his link, baron phlegm did a truly amazing job, that stealer infant is awesome!!!

Very nice! Evil baby!

Now would be a good time for everyone to tune in here:

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/210/324139.page

That's totally awesome, Tom! I really like the way his face came out and his shoulder pads.

Thanks dude, I am having trouble containing my excitement at this first taste of the work Sigur will be doing on the whole lot! I am floored by his ability to understand my vision and intentions for the whole thing... seriously...

*happy dance*

Nice use of useing space hulk for your own guys,God if I had got one of those I would of done completly the same.

Why didn't you paint your own, i've seen your work, it's top level. I've also seen the stuff he painted for you and it is great. I just don't understand how could you pass that off to someone else after all your hard work?

Thanks! To be frank, I would rather see the project get done with help than languish for years waiting to get done just by me. Sigur has a painting style quite close to mine I find, has fair prices and works very fast, I am quite happy with the choice!

The plan was always to work on them a bit more when I get them back, little freehand details and a few other small touches, so in the end, between the concept, design, sculpting 14 out of 21 (and working on the other 7 too), and doing a bit or detailing paint wise, I still feel enough ownership over them to call them mine, and be grateful for the great help Inquisitor Earl and Sigur have both provided me to see this through to the end. Believe me, it's a project that has been going for nearly 2 years as it is, 100's of hours have already been spend, it is nice to feel a sense of progress at this stage!

Plus I still have 2 custom Magus' and a NMM Terminator Dante to finish! I am not out of the woods on this project yet!

Lol yes, I have been dying to see how the Dantenator is going to turn out

Me too! lol

Knowing the hybrids are coming back soon has kind of geared me up to complete everything now, at the expense of my now languishing StormRaven Project... not enough time in a day!

You know I think as soon as I get my core Hulk set done I'm going to have a crack at my own hybrids. It's a bit like self punishment knowing how much work goes in but it'd be worth it.

I've just finished basing 10 Dark Eldar wyches for space hulk and am going to start on some magnetised true scale Grey Knights to stand in as my Hulk Terminators. Maybe I should do a blog on here?

Do you know of any cool minis out there to stand in as daemons? I want to use them instead of Genestealers for some hulk games but the GW bloodletters etc don't really seem scary/insane enough.

You totally should! Get back on here and post in your threads again bro, you've been absent too long!

I am not sure about Demon models, there are alternatives, but, nothing with enough variety to have the 20 or so you need to play SH...

You could always make your own

Get back on here, your Dark Mechanicus also needs an update!

I think I'll have to make my own daemons. Perhaps as part of a Dark Mechanicus revival I'll make some daemon infested servitors like the stuff in the Dark Adeptus novel.

I'm afraid my spare time is so limited I don't get a chance to post on forums or even update my blog. There doesn't seem much point when we are faced with life changing disasters like the earthquakes. We just had a 5.3 aftershock right underneath us and the power has finally come on after 3 hours.

It is good to see what others are up to but I am increasingly finding that the good stuff is hidden under mountains of mediocraty. Fortunately there are guys like you, Migsula and CMDante that continue to produce original work.

Alrighty, so the final phases of this project are underway! I have started painting my version of a Genestealer Cult Limo, a captured Crassus Assault Transport! Er, I mean CRASSUS ASSAULT TRANSPORT -


















And a size comparisson with the P.I.P Genestealer Magus







Once these two items are done, it will be finishing up the juvenile magus and Dantenator, touch ups on all the hybrids and other Genestealers, and the Great SH project will be a wrap!

Comments welcome, I am thinking of freehanding a subtle pattern onto the Magus' robes, but am at a loss as to what to base it on...

Wow that crassus is great. It's a very interesting design.

Nice pigment work. OSL looks good to me.

I'd be posting some stuff on Dakka if it wasn't for the earth shaking and buildings falling down around us again.

Can't wait to see a group shot of the Hybrids.

Good job! Waiting for more...

Ive been waiting for that ever since you first metnioned it in passing, and you did not disappoint!

I love seeing how your skills have progressed in such a short time, you're really becoming a master now!!

edit: How are you "sealing" your powders? I can never seem to get just white spirits to work and they always end up brushing off...

Looking very cool

oooo exciting new things!

Vitruvian XVII wrote:Ive been waiting for that ever since you first metnioned it in passing, and you did not disappoint!

I love seeing how your skills have progressed in such a short time, you're really becoming a master now!!

edit: How are you "sealing" your powders? I can never seem to get just white spirits to work and they always end up brushing off...

Mig Pigment Fixer... when it comes to powders though, there is never anything 100%, eventually with enough handling, they will rub off. I wasn't shy though as the interior is unlikely to be touched or seen again lol!

Thanks for the kind comments guys

Any suggestions for a subtle pattern to paint on the Magus' robes? A line art pattern?

I think i need to get some of that then, sick of the varnish dissolving all my hard work :(

Perhaps the "stealer embryo" pattern fashioned into a repeating spirally pattern? I hope you get what i mean!

Btw, has Sigur completely finished your stuff yet?

Oh, that's your problem, sealer will ruin pigments guaranteed, you should put them on and fix them only at the very end!

I get what you mean for the pattern, but I didn't want to overdo the stelaer icon theme... Hmm maybe some kind of simplification? Hmmm

Sigur has indeed sent the hybrids over, I am waiting on them now! Can't wait to see them in person and put some finishing touches on them, which won't be much as it looks like he did a spectacular job in the pics!

Maybe just some simple geometric designs, like a Mayan Priest (always how I saw the GS Cult for whatever reason).

I look at the above, and start wondering what the feth am I thinking just leave the robes plain lol

Hehe random man-flesh

Perhaps just a simple brocade/braid pattern on the hem?

MajorTom11 wrote:I look at the above, and start wondering what the feth am I thinking just leave the robes plain lol

Being realistic? You generally pattern your clothing(and skin) to draw attention. Genestealer cults tend to NOT want to draw attention and so their robes would be simple so as to draw as little undue attention as possible.

I understand that you want your models to stand out and be visually interesting, but they do that by sheer being awesome conversions and sculpts.

Love the way that's turning out MT... man that thing is beefy too!

Platuan4th wrote:

MajorTom11 wrote:I look at the above, and start wondering what the feth am I thinking just leave the robes plain lol

Being realistic? You generally pattern your clothing(and skin) to draw attention. Genestealer cults tend to NOT want to draw attention and so their robes would be simple so as to draw as little undue attention as possible.

I understand that you want your models to stand out and be visually interesting, but they do that by sheer being awesome conversions and sculpts.

True, but he has a giant honking stealer icon on his staff, so for the Magi anyways, I am kind of putting a little more pretentiousness into the paintjobs. For this particular one anyways, he is the 'leader/senior Magus', while the other two are a juvenile and an old one respectively. I do not want to go overboard though all the same, the patterns would be painted on in subtler shades if it were overall, whereas I am leading more to Theoden style trimming (last pic) at the moment, but perhaps with a Maori pattern.

Thanks Gits, where is your DCM Crassus bud??

The CRASSUS LIMO is looking very nice, looks like an interesting candidate for looting

For the magus, perhaps a simple pattern based on the stealer symbol, along the hem and possibly the sleeve hems, in a muted colour that doesn't stand out from the robe itself?

That's the intent, something like a medium grey blue or a slightly lighter purple, nothing too constrasty, it would be subtle -

Join the Crassus party dude, everyone is doing it lol -
My only saving grace is that I bought it before the meme got started lol -

I'll have to get one! Not sure what I'll do with it, but it is an impressive vehicle!

Orki-fy the bejeezus out of it of course! The front is just begging for a DeffRolla lol

Hmmmmm.... that's a thought.

Were did you get the genstlar hibrids form?

I designed them, and scratch sculpted 14 of them, and hired Inquisitor Earl to do another 7 based on my concept art. Every step is documented in the thread, although I know it is intimidating to go through it at this point lol!

If you want to just shortcut it and see everything minus the talking, check out my gallery, everything is organized into folders -

Thanks for your interest!

Fancy seling em?
Any tips for sculpting?(Ive never doine it before apart for metal modles gaps and stuff).

Def not gonna be selling them, not for less than 10k anyways lol!

Again, going back in the thread I describe in great detail mu experience scultping them and what I learned... If I could give one top tip though, buy colour shaper sculpting tools from sovereign! Silicone tipped tools, lightyears more comfortable to use than metal for me in 95% of instances.

Instead of color shapers, have you ever heard of someone using makeup brushes? I feel like they tend to be smaller than your average color shaper. Granted, I'm not familiar with the Sovereign color shapers, specifically.

http://www.dickblick.com/products/royal-sovereign-clay-shaper-sets/

Accept no substitute, I tried a set that I thought was color shaper and wasn't, and the difference was instantly noticeable. Can't speak to make-up brushes, but I see pro's using colour shapers, and cannot recommend them highly enough!

Cool stuff. Thanks, Tom!

Love the approach to the "limo." Heh. That's riding in style. After a long hiatus, I'm getting back to work on my GCult vehicles too. Speaking of which, weren't you the one saying you couldn't imagine ever doing an entire army of these guys? Your collection seems to keep growing. I'm just sayin'.

Regarding the Magus and ornamentation, I say go for it. He's essentially a high priest, and that title usually comes with some fancy clothing in any religion. And while all Gen4s can mostly pass as human, it's also not like the Magus in particular is going to step out to pick up a gallon of milk. "Normal" Gen4s would be the ones out proselytizing in civilian clothes. The Magus would spend a lot of time in private, and any "public" appearance would be short and tightly controlled. Unless he has a Popemobile (Magusmobile?), that is...

A question on clay shapers...do you use size 0? I have some of the grey-tipped color shapers, and they work well for some applications but not for creating sharp edges, etc. since the tips are a little softer.

I gravitate towards the softer size 0 round and wedge, I get most of the way there blocking out the shapes, and then at the end, sculpt in hard detail and edges with metal tools and hard size 0 colour shapers. It's really a matter of being organized with the timing and sequence... A lot of people tend to do gs layers, adding basic shapes, let dry, then more complicated areas, let dry, then final sharp detail... I'm not patient enough for that lol, I'm a momentum hobbyist, have to work when the mood takes me! Not good at plugging away on a regular schedule -

Thanks for your kind comments on the limo too, I am pretty happy with it so far! Sculpted some icons for it too, will post those soon, then a little sanding and on to airbrushing the outside!

Thanks!

Decided to get painting again before tackling the AC's -









and the icons, besides the spermies on top of the sponsons lol





Now for a bit of brush painting for details etc, then another round of AB for some other details, then a gloss coat, then oil washing (this time will try with mineral spirits instead of turpentine), then final weathering, powders, additional chips etc.

Seperate items to be done somewhere in there, AC sponson add-ons, dozer blade detailing...

Love the little badge on the front

Or was that just a really big bug they splattered if any Imperial authorities ask them?

RAAWWWRRRRR !

The Crassus is lovely , Perfect design . like a big dirty chimera.
Nice Brood icons too.

Looking very nice Tom, as usual. Is there more detail to be added to the rear side icons, not looking as finished as the front one?

And that Crassus is just screaming to be looted.

Unfortunately my bank balance is just screaming 'NO'

Beautiful airbrushing dude.

Seems like you had a bit of a mental collapse though, sperm on top of the sponsons and a dong on the buddha stealer? What happened bud??

Sperm = trad 2nd ed stealer icon, buddha stealer, its a tail not a wang lol!

MajorTom11 wrote:Sperm = trad 2nd ed stealer icon, buddha stealer, its a tail not a wang lol!

Now that it's been pointed out, I can't help but notice the swimmer on top of the sponsons

Nice airbrushing job btw...done with the micron?

What can I say, I like my spunkie icons lol :S

Yup, although only the final layers. The base and most of the work were done with my master g44's, I had some clogging issues though as I was using regular vallejo Ivory and it was too gloopy going in the well before thinning. I had to stop and pull out an empty pot to pre mix it to the right consistency, then had to add in some airbrush medium to get it to coat well.

I really need to get some AB specific white paint...

Loving the APC so far. Any oil washes coming for this beast?

Vallejo Model Air is likely my next candidate for a big purchase in the future. I've heard nothing but rave reviews about the stuff from LBursley for months now.

Yessir, it will be my first oil session using mineral spirits instead of turp... was just looking at your site at the tutorials, and just posted a couple of questions for you in your blog 2 seconds ago lol!

HIGHLY recommend Model Air, I don't have much experience with anything else, but they are working perfectly for me so far, no complaints at all!

WOW so much thats goton done! love the limo!

Looking good with the end in sight. What are you using as a dozer blade? That limo is going to be killer.

Wow, how did this thread get so big since I checked it last . Lots more reading to do, but what I've gotten through so far is incredible!

MajorTom11 wrote:http://www.dickblick.com/products/royal-sovereign-clay-shaper-sets/

Accept no substitute, I tried a set that I thought was color shaper and wasn't, and the difference was instantly noticeable. Can't speak to make-up brushes, but I see pro's using colour shapers, and cannot recommend them highly enough!

Just took a look at that link, Tom - did you get the regular or small set?

Read through the entire thread over last night and today, and I'm really impressed with what you've accomplished so far, Tom. Keep up the good work.

I take it the Magus' staff icon has been removed for painting, going by the Crassus size comparison picture?

Smallest, set, size 0 I believe? My preference is towards firm...

The Magus Staff-top is indeed just set aside for ease of painting for the moment... I have also been considering attempting something different paint wise on it.

Ritides, Eprhael, Bigmek, thanks for the kind words! To answer the dozer blade question, it is a modded Chimaera blade, with some extra touches -

MajorTom11 wrote:What can I say, I like my spunkie icons lol :S

Yup, although only the final layers. The base and most of the work were done with my master g44's, I had some clogging issues though as I was using regular vallejo Ivory and it was too gloopy going in the well before thinning. I had to stop and pull out an empty pot to pre mix it to the right consistency, then had to add in some airbrush medium to get it to coat well.

I really need to get some AB specific white paint...

Yeah, the smaller nozzle tends to clog a lot more often and takes forever to spray any volume of paint through. Your g44 is probably best for large surfaces anyway. For AB specific white paint you can probably get some Createx White from De Serres. It comes in large bottles and is cheap for the price. I bought a small 6 pack of colors that had the primaries and was about 30 bucks for the pack.

Loving the white on that apc, great work. Can i ask, what set of colours did you use? and How?

Eggroll wrote:

MajorTom11 wrote:What can I say, I like my spunkie icons lol :S

Yup, although only the final layers. The base and most of the work were done with my master g44's, I had some clogging issues though as I was using regular vallejo Ivory and it was too gloopy going in the well before thinning. I had to stop and pull out an empty pot to pre mix it to the right consistency, then had to add in some airbrush medium to get it to coat well.

I really need to get some AB specific white paint...

Yeah, the smaller nozzle tends to clog a lot more often and takes forever to spray any volume of paint through. Your g44 is probably best for large surfaces anyway. For AB specific white paint you can probably get some Createx White from De Serres. It comes in large bottles and is cheap for the price. I bought a small 6 pack of colors that had the primaries and was about 30 bucks for the pack.

Createx purchased, a set of 12, good price! Works on clothes too, might have some fun with that...

Hits_the_spot wrote:Loving the white on that apc, great work. Can i ask, what set of colours did you use? and How?

Thanks Hits, sorry for the late answer! And btw, heavy inspiration from your corridor work so I am surprised you would want tips from me lol! The base color was a mix of dark charcoal grey, medium green, steel blue and a slate grey, all Vallejo air colors. I don't know the specific names by heart but I can check. It was quite dark going on, and was mostly rubber grey appearing, with a slight bias towards a greenish tint. This was ab'd on quite thouroughly but wide zenithal angles. Next up, more steel blue and slate grey were added, again in a wide zenithal. Next, switched to only grey and steel blue, with a touch of Ivory. I kept zenithal on the sides, but on the top, I began modulation style, which I am sure sure you are familiar with but for those that don't know, it is somewhat similar to nmm, light to dark, and then on angle or surface changes, reset the gradient so that dark always touches light. Repeat adding quite a bit of Ivory, and finaly finish off with pure Ivory on the flattest top areas and along top leading edges, very light and thin.

Let me know if you want those colors and more specific ratio bud.




Alright, so, despite in-laws, baby stuff and other visitors, and busy time at work, I still want to get on with a little hobbying. Need some peace and quiet!

This is a mock-up of what I was thinking for the next few steps of painting, charcoal striping with a purple leading edge, steel stealer icons, brass for the main icon up front though. White lettering, and misc ochre and red little symbols on hatches etc.



Comments?

This is why it's so cool to come back after a while. So much great work to catch up with.

Mock up looking very good - just make sure it's a worn black (dark grey), not black black, in order to fit the overall feel and wear of the vehicle.

Looks nice, like an organised military structure has been gradually and subtly infected - as opposed to the 'Necromunda gangs stabbing everyone's eyes out with violet paint' approach I took with my 2ed cult


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I'd suggest moving the striping back a bit so it's not sitting over a rivet line near the edge of a panel; maybe try to get it following the panel's centre line?

nice!

Awesome paintjob Tom, as usual...

That purple lining to the stripe looks awesome!!!

How do you make the letters, by the way? Do you hand-paint them?

Lol, just a mock-up dude! Wanted to plan out the next steps before commiting to airbrush over the current state which I am quite happy with. I am going to do it pretty much as seen, but the letters certainly present a problem, they will have to be hand painted... :S


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*mock-up = photoshop btw

Thanks for the explanation lol... I was surprised at how bright & clean & smooth it looked, but hey, if someone could pull that off, who else than you?

grey_death wrote:Loving the APC so far. Any oil washes coming for this beast?

Vallejo Model Air is likely my next candidate for a big purchase in the future. I've heard nothing but rave reviews about the stuff from LBursley for months now.

I would also HIGHLY suggest getting the suitcase if you do buy into model air.

Agreed, it is pricey but you are likely to end up buying a large portion of the range anyways if you like it lol!

Nice paint job MajorTom11.

I would suggest the interior needs moar drapes and throw cushions if it is truely to be a limo (maybe an annoyingly small drinks cabinets as well?).

Yggdrasil wrote:

Thanks for the explanation lol... I was surprised at how bright & clean & smooth it looked, but hey, if someone could pull that off, who else than you?

Tom's got mad skillz in both the Painting AND Photoshopping departments - no joke!

Yeh... who would have thought...

Or, maybe I only have skills in Photoshop! ;]

I could make the crassus look pretty real, but why shoot myself in the foot and make it look better than the final product lol! A little showmanship goes a long way, esp when you take weeks between painting sessions, and those are only usually an afternoon.

@notprop, the l.e.d strips and neon '4 arm pimp' sign in cursive will be installed next week! Hot Tub 'n' Ho's week after

MajorTom11 wrote:Lol, just a mock-up dude! Wanted to plan out the next steps before commiting to airbrush over the current state which I am quite happy with. I am going to do it pretty much as seen, but the letters certainly present a problem, they will have to be hand painted... :S

Re painting letters. I've had excellent results in the past by printing the lettering, laminating the print (sticky tape does the trick), laying masking tape on top of the laminate, cutting the letters out of the masking tape, peeling the tape off the laminate, and then putting the resulting sticky-backed stencil on the area to be painted and stippling paint over it. You then peel the stencil off, and you have lettering!

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/341462.page#2357015 is something similar, but I can't find the original article that taught me this technique

A good idea Lindsay, but the letters would be, far, far too small to cut out with any accuracy. Larger images are perfect candidates though for that technique!

Even if it would work though, I think that developing my freehand abilities for writing would be more advantageous in the long run, as I could not stencil say a scroll plate on a thundershield half obscured by purity seals or what-not if you see my point?

Ok, update on ye ol' Genestealer Crassus Assault Limo -

Stripes got ab'd on, and oil weathering has begun - note it is still wet, and gloss coated no less, in case you are wondering why it is shiny in patches.

I used Mineral Spirits instead of turpentine this time, and oh what a difference it makes! Infinitely better flow and control, and way faster drying, I think it should be all dried up by tomorrow even! Big recommend on the spirits -

Pics are big, so click em to zoom for a closer look if you are interested

That is awesome, Tom! Great work!

Looks great!

I don't think there is anything you could do to make that better Tom. It looks excellent.

Very very nice!

Damn I want one of those. >.<

Wow, I guess oil washing with mineral spirits was a success eh? Thanks so much guys, nice to hear you like it!

Definite success That is looking damn fine.

Yowza.

Very nice indeed

Jeez, and it's not even close to done lol, thanks! I think this might be one of the warmest receptions I have ever received putting up pics!

Great work Tom! Are those tadpoles on the side sponsons??

Yes... tadpoles...

I'm a fan of old school cult iconography what can I say :|

How on earth did I completely miss this blog until now? This is really phenomenal work... and I LOVE gene stealer cult stuff. Reminds me of my misspent 40k youth. I'm on page 2... long way to go yet. :-)

Lol comfort yourself that at least it isnt as long as the Mantis Warrior blog!

Yes, there is that. I still think the people who read that monstrosity from start to finish are wonderful... but a little 'teched in the head.

What cheeses me off is that a lot of your regulars are also my regulars, and it didn't dawn on anyone to point this thread out to me. Weedy gits!

Well, at least you can get a big dose if you like it, it took 2 years to get this far, almost done but still quite a bit to go! Have to finish the Crassus, Dantenator, the 2 Magi and do touch-ups on the hybrids... I'll be lucky if I can get through half of it before my kid is born!

Well.... good then...


Carry on.

Wow I took a break from the hobby a while ago. You had just finished fixing up the sealing disaster.
Your work is amazing as always!

Thanks man, was wondering where you had gotten off to, welcome back!

@Tom - The LIMO looks great, the purple in particular looks really striking.
@Gits - I assumed you had seen this, and every other blog, on dakka long ago.

Crassus is looking awesome Tom. What's left to go on it? The overall armor looks pretty well finished at this point (barring any clean up work you might want to do). What colors did you use for your spirits wash?

Some day I'll end up using all of these same techniques for an Imperial Guard force, if I can only break my power armor addiction....

Very nice paintjob my dear major, consistent high standard as always.

*applauds*

Thanks guys

@GreyDeath -
Definitely not done with weathering, still have mud spattering, track wear and pigments to go! After that, it will be fine detailing with acrylics, painting wires, symbols and other misc touches.

I have also been working on a modified dozer blade a la something I saw in FW:Masterclass, but I have additionally made extensions for it as well. Last but not least, I will need to make the autocannon barrels for the Sponsons...

My first go with oils on the Stormraven were fun, but in the end I had decided I wouldn't likely use them again as the turpentine made it a bit to gloopy and took way, way, way too long to dry. On the other hand, mineral spirits were flawless to use, and performed much more to what I was expecting. That and it dries way quicker.

I use Abteilung oils from MIG, cause I fell for the high pigment count marketing, but they work great so I am happy anyways, whether or not that is actually true lol. I used a bunch of colors on a palette, but primarily it was an ocher, a camo gray, olive green, umber and black. I can check the actual names if you want?

I really really want to pick up the FW masterclass book. Granted I wish they could get someone with a touch more experience in figure painting on the painting staff >.>..

I'll be interested in seeing the difference between how it's looking now and when you're 'done' with the armor. The added weathering will really push this thing over the top in terms of believability.

I started out using mineral spirits when I first dabbled with oils. Unfortunately, I haven't really used them since, past actually painting on a canvas! I loved how they went on but didn't have much use for them at the time as I've been knee deep in most of my projects for so long. Should I ever get around to the IG or something with tanks/armor.

With all the time I've spent mixing colors in painting courses, I don'tt think I'd be too far off the mark if I just mixed them with what I have on hand, though more paint will always get put to good use The names will help if the MIG site has the color swatch on hand. If not, the colors you've given the names of are pretty useful in their own right.

Ya I figured you could manage

The FW:Masterclass book is great, but honestly, I have gotten myself a subcription to FineScale Modeller and have been spending a lot of time looking at Military modelling stuff, and in some ways, many ways, it is light years ahead of Wargame modelling, 10 years ahead I would say. Every new trick I have heard of in the last 5 years for us is old hat for them. People who are using the full scope of techniques to max effect are groups like Massive Voodoo, and I can't really think of much else although I know they are out there. It is just on another level.

Oh, not to mention the plethora of photo-etch stuff the Military community has, why more people here aren't using it, I can only assume we simply didn't know! What a massive amount of hyper detailed bits!

http://www.finescale.com/

10 issues for $40US - I might pick up an issue or two first, just to try it our and see if I want to take the plunge!

I've been saying that for YEARS now. As modelers and painters we're so behind the power curve it's almost hard to accept. Granted a lot of it comes down to re-configuring the techniques for use on models that will see a lot more wear and tear than something like a display tank on full diorama basing.

For us it's more about picking and choosing techniques and methods that will fulfill our want for something more realistic, hold up to the abuse and be easy enough to reproduce on a mass scale for armies. Plus, this being more of a hobby for the younger crowd, it's not exactly primed for the exploration of things like oil paints and mass use of sprays and varnishes. Most of us get taught out the gate about brush and brush only, where if you get into military modeling of any era, those guys pretty much START with an airbrush as one of their very first purchases.

It's sort of awesome to be on the cusp of using all of those great techniques though. And thanks to a few of the more advanced guys around the web, things like color modulation hit our ranks about the same time that it was being developed because it could so easily be used to good effect on our end! It was also one of the big catalysts for the mass purchases we've seen by wargamers around the web of airbrushes and compressors.

Brass etch on the wargames side isn't that huge because people aren't really making that many after-market kits for sci fi stuff, though with 40k, it doesn't take much imagination to go into historical and current era stuff and steal it all for our needs

Lol yup!

btw - just about any issue of FineScale Modeller = FW:Masterclass, articles are presented almost the exact same way, to the same level of detail. FW:Masterclass is really, really just a Military Modelling technique book applied to GW stuff. It was still an awesome read though

I am going to look into the brass etch stuff more, and post more when I am a bit more learned about where to get it, and the options. What I did see over the weekend in the magazines was really impressive and useful for 40k though... hugely so!


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Oh, and something that made me laugh, and illustrates the diff between a Military Modeller and a Wargame Hobbyist -

Mud spatter:

In order to create mud spatter, the commonly accepted WG Hobbyist method is to flick wash or paint with an old toothbrush, or simply brush it on.

A Military modeller loads a brush with wash impregnated with pigment, then blasts it with an Airbrush at 40psi to create the effect.

Results are similar in many cases, but one cannot argue, the Military Modeller is doing it in style lol

Limo looks great Tom! The AB'd strips really break up the model nicely.

Be sure to share any of these paint techniques with the dakka community, I know I would like to hear about them!

Cain

Desperatley resisting the urge to buy FW stuff now!

Thanks bud, is there anything in particular you want to know about technique wise?

Anything in particular? Nope, just keep up what you are doing now, this blog is all the inspiration I need

On a side note, how was the Crassus to construct? I hope warping was down to a minimum (especially for the much higher price that they charge in comparison to other vehicles of similar size). It seems that FW's quality has improved vastly since started 40k but one can never be sure!

No problems at all with warping or bubbles, it was pretty much perfect when I got it! It is also a very, very simple kit to put together too, can't complain. Thanks for your kind words on the blog too CC!

I'm off to pick up an issue of FSM tonight!

Alpharius wrote:I'm off to pick up an issue of FSM tonight!

See if you can get it at Borders it's 40% off!

All the Borders around here have already been shuttered, unfortunately...

Thats one sweet hijaced boarder thing!LOL!

@ Grey Death, Hairspray/Salt weathering used on oil drums, results, quite awesome, and unique in their way...

Mucho conversion and AB on Dozer Blade too... it's getting close to the point where it will all be put together and re-matte sealed for final details.

Great advice guys, and am def loving Fine Scale Modeller and Imperial Armor: Masterclass for great tips and inspiration as well...

That ride looks great! I like the armour plating like that. The colors are a great choice as well. I can't believe I lost track of this thread! You're genestealer cult sculpts are superb.

Those are your first conversions?!... *faints*


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You made the CRASUS ARMORED ASSULT TRANSPORT even better... That is one epic achievement

Amazing keep it up !

I could post an update tonight, or wait a few more days til I'm done.... What say ye?

Now please... your in-progress shots are so very informative!

in that one picture with the broodlord, where did you get the base, you know the one with the awesome pile of skulls?

Alpharius wrote:I'm off to pick up an issue of FSM tonight!

Picked it up tonight on the way home from helping some friends move - a quick skim reveals it to be rather impressive - I'll probably end up subscribing...

Thanks for the recommendation Tom!

I like the sculpting you did. Nice job.

Thanks guys, very kind!

@Alphy, I'm glad you like! Although, I would say to take a look at their 'benchmark' issues you can order, I am thinking that overall things can get a bit repeditive. I think ordering their 'airbrush issue' 'weathering issue' and 'modelling issue' will be more than enough.

Alrighty,

As requested, another set of W.I.P's before closing in on the finish line!

First thing to have a look at, on Grey Death's advice, I tried Salt and Hairspray weathering on the oil drums, which I think turns out quite nicely! I put several layers on here, purple, then charred brown, then rust, then charcoal grey, then battleplate grey. Each one hit with salt and hairspray in between, and then dried with the hairdryer before moving to the next color. After I was done with the colors, warm water and a stiff brush were used to remove layers of paint, all the way back down to the original purple. What you get, is a very dingy, corroded looking weathering.





NOTE - The drums are not done, the straps and nozzles need to be detailed, and more importantly, an oil wash with a dusty beige and rust needs to be added as well. These shots is purely salt, nothing else.

Moving on, custom AutoCannons. Cuz the Crassus needs to be shooty'n'junk.





Pretty simple, I just used some styrene tubes and a drill to make them. I made the decision to use WW2 style fabric 'shrouds' (?) at the base of the gun where is attaches to the sponson. I don't know the actual name, but I would expect it functions to allow horizontal and vertical traverse while preventing dust and blow back from getting in? Is there a tank nut who can tell me what the heck those things are called?

Next, custom dozer blade.





Extended left and right to fit the Crassus width, with about 100 additional rivets added, some control lines to the pistons and some welding plates. And of course, purple chevrons, cause y'know... Genestealers like their purple. NOTE - This has only been sponge chipped atm, it is glossed and will be receiving a nice oil wash session next.

Finally, why not have a look at it all together









Alrighty, so, painting the guns, oil weathering the dozer blade, and finally a pigment session will complete the overall painting, all that will be left after that is free handing symbols and writing, and we are all done! I must admit, I am really enjoying painting armor, and am thoroughly loving the Airbrush, Oils and Pigments these days.

AFter this, on to Genestealer hybrids, the Magus' need to be done, and a painting session on all the hybrids to add some more detail and tones will be next. After that, Dantenator, and at long last, my Ultimate Space Hulk project will be complete! It kinda went a bit out of scope since I started lol....

The Crassus is looking really nice, MajorTom - though with the addition of the autocannon, it now appears to have eyes.

Are the "tadpoles" on the sponsons going to be getting any more love?

Simply amazing...

Though I liked the Heavy Bolters on the original model, at first I thought your autocannons were "re-cast" or something, which can tell you managed to get them right uh!
Autocannons don't really give an impression of close-quarter fighting / hive sprawl that's inherent to most Genestealer cults, but that's just my opinion uh...

As for the "shroud", I am not sure but I think it could be translated to a "turret mask" or a "bellows" (as in organs, forges, etc...)

Can't wait to see some progress on the footsloggers! (Where does that word come from, by the way? Is "slog" a verb?)

Fantastic! Thanks for showing the weathering with the salt and hairspray. Wondered what that would look like.

mmmh, maybe the autocannon are too long....imho

Dysartes wrote:The Crassus is looking really nice, MajorTom - though with the addition of the autocannon, it now appears to have eyes.

Are the "tadpoles" on the sponsons going to be getting any more love?

The tadpoles may get some minor attention, but in general, they are meant to be black markings. Thanks for the kind words!

Yggdrasil wrote:Simply amazing...

Though I liked the Heavy Bolters on the original model, at first I thought your autocannons were "re-cast" or something, which can tell you managed to get them right uh!
Autocannons don't really give an impression of close-quarter fighting / hive sprawl that's inherent to most Genestealer cults, but that's just my opinion uh...

As for the "shroud", I am not sure but I think it could be translated to a "turret mask" or a "bellows" (as in organs, forges, etc...)

Can't wait to see some progress on the footsloggers! (Where does that word come from, by the way? Is "slog" a verb?)

Lol, slogging means an arduous march or hike, and implies carrying something heavy. It is a verb. For the ac, I figured they have plenty of purestrains in the boot for up close action

Gitsplitta wrote:Fantastic! Thanks for showing the weathering with the salt and hairspray. Wondered what that would look like.

Np thanks gitsie

FantasyBob wrote:mmmh, maybe the autocannon are too long....imho

Hmm, anyone else feel strongly about this? I still have time to shorten them if need be, but I have never seen short barreled auto cannons....

Let me know! Thanks guys!

Since you've asked... they do look a bit extreme sticking out of that hull.


Though, there are these...

http://www.armour-models.co.uk/images/PanzerShop/PS35C132.jpg

http://gallery.photo.net/photo/2029970-md.jpg

http://www.glogster.com/media/5/24/34/91/24349144.jpg

The Genestealer Limo is a work of art, fantastic painting there!!

The autocannons do seem long, but maybe they just need to be a bit wider. It could be because they are long and thin, they look a bit off.

My thoughts on the Autocannons are of a practical nature. That is, if they are sticking out past the dozer blade, should the limo come to contact terrain, the first thing to hit would be a gun barrel. I don't mind the length on the side, but on the front, seems, I dunknow, flawed?

My thought is that because they are unpainted and pristine white to the degree of retina searing, they stick out where they normally wouldn't.

In other words, IN TOM I TRUST!

I'm right there with Alph. The blaring white is going to make them seem far more 'out of place' than they might otherwise look once fully painted and weathered.

It's a balancing act between still maintaining the autocannon look and not being too long. Length of barrel is a major factor in weapon range in real life, so to help ground the idea that they are a long range, reach and and touch someone kind of weapons, they should maintain the long range look.

A cm or two could however make them feel a little better on the snub face of the crassus though.

Looking good and I couldn't come up with the name of the leather shroud as my search-fu failed me.

See, now there is a bunch of good advice 

Thank you Fantasy Bob for opening up the discussion! I know a lot of times it may seem like people are sensitive about their work in P and M, but honestly, what is the point of WIP’s if not to help make good decisions? I may not always agree with comments personally, but I definitely think that any issue should be discussed and considered. We spend a lot of time putting these models together and working on them, it is definitely worth an extra 10 minutes to discuss something that could be ‘off’ on something you are trying to get close to perfect!

I think moving forward I will leave the side barrels as is, but shorten the front’s marginally. As GD says, they have to have a somewhat lengthy barrel to maintain the look of an autocannon, it simply isn’t in autocannon DNA to be a nub sticking out, at least as they have always been presented. I will endeavor to have them reasonably match the length of the Dozer blade (which is of course not attached as of yet and could be easily extended out a little bit). I am not so worried about the autocannon and dozer blade length matching for ramming purposes though, in my mind, the dozer is to clear rubble and also to squish smaller tanks and infantry, but it is not particular in my mind for smashing buildings or larger targets. When you commit to do that you have to accept your tank will take hits other places than just the blade! Some main battle tanks have dozers but barrels that extend much further than them, and still go through walls and non-armored objects just fine, barrel first at times lol, but a tank on tank collision? I am not thinking that anyone is counting on walking away fully functional from that anyhow lol…

Great stuff guys thank you for participating in the conversation!

Thank you Fantasy Bob for opening up the discussion! I know a lot of times it may seem like people are sensitive about their work in P and M, but honestly, what is the point of WIP’s if not to help make good decisions? I may not always agree with comments personally, but I definitely think that any issue should be discussed and considered. We spend a lot of time putting these models together and working on them, it is definitely worth an extra 10 minutes to discuss something that could be ‘off’ on something you are trying to get close to perfect!

Well said Major I don't think I would have got to the stage I'm at on my latest dread or any new project that I have started, without taking into account comments from fellow dakkas. Also reading treads like this gives massive inspiration.

go dakkadakka

MajorTom11 wrote:
@Alphy, I'm glad you like! Although, I would say to take a look at their 'benchmark' issues you can order, I am thinking that overall things can get a bit repeditive. I think ordering their 'airbrush issue' 'weathering issue' and 'modelling issue' will be more than enough.

Good advice there as those particular 'issues/books' only cost $7.95 each!

I still might end up subscribing as I like to get something in the mail every now and then that isn't a bill...

I may have a better recommend for you, there is another similar magazine that seems to include a bit more sci-fi in it, don't have the name with me right now -

Tipios thanks dude, and you are spot on as well

MajorTom11 wrote:I may have a better recommend for you, there is another similar magazine that seems to include a bit more sci-fi in it, don't have the name with me right now -

OK then, I'll hold off on any purchases until you remember/find/make up the name of the better publication!

It's sitting on my desk in the man-cave, will post it up tonight bud -

Mig jiminez' F.A.Q. Is back in print and I fully intend to pick a copy up.

You mean the DVD's? HIGHLY RECOMMEND both of those! I really loved em, great to see things actually being done, well shot, and very diverse -

grey_death wrote:Mig jiminez' F.A.Q. Is back in print and I fully intend to pick a copy up.

MajorTom11 wrote:You mean the DVD's? HIGHLY RECOMMEND both of those! I really loved em, great to see things actually being done, well shot, and very diverse -

Yes, what exactly do you mean, and where can I buy them?

Mig has his book FAQ which has been the military modellers bible for YEARS now. It recently was reprinted so should be easier to get your hands on. I might have to look into any vids from him as well though.

I DEMAND LINKAGE!!!

Linkage to FAQ on Google Shopping

That is a pricey bugger! They have the brit shop CQout that has it for cheaper, but I am wondering about shipping and customs on that one... Where are you gonna order it from GD?

It isn't back in print on Amazon yet...

I'm really not sure yet. I'll have to dig around and see where I can get a good price while being reliably shipped.

Those autocannon look awesome. I really fancy having a crack at something like this sometime.

Getting the book for under 90 bucks would be hard to do. I've found it on Andrea Miniatures the actual company that puts it out, and it's around that much from them.

The print run was apparently around May. The availability is killing me right now as I'm dying to get it. If I can find a reliable source this side of the pond, I'll be sure to let you all know.

Amazon does have them for 90 bucks or so, amazon CA anyways...


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http://www.amazon.ca/gp/offer-listing/849652762X/ref=dp_olp_all_mbc?ie=UTF8&qid=1311971043&sr=8-3&condition=all

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What is the page count on that bastard?

It's just around 220 full color pages and photos.

Is that all? meh...

MajorTom11 wrote:It's sitting on my desk in the man-cave, will post it up tonight bud -

So, are you home yet?

(I am!)

http://www.modelmilitary.com/

Also a very cool mag, very similar to FSM, but it seemed to have more sci-fi stuff... That being said, I only have 1 issue, so buyer beware.

Also note, it is European.

Talk about a buzz kill!

Anyway, where did you find one over here in North America?

Hopefully at a chain that exists down here too?

I think you singlehandedly killed their web site Tom... one link on dakka and they get so much traffic their server went down! LOL!

That Crassus looks brilliant. I really like the subtlety tie in's to the Genestealer's. You can imagine a PDF force having that in the Arsenal and not noticeing the insidious infiltrators gradually taking over. I'm far more impressed by the model than I thought I was on the website you've made it seem far larger.

Still works fine for me.

Though he probably gets it is some Canadian Euro Shoppe or some such...

Gitsplitta wrote:I think you singlehandedly killed their web site Tom... one link on dakka and they get so much traffic their server went down! LOL!

Lol I was all excited but then I went and it worked. delusions of grandeur dissipating lol.....

Llamahead wrote:That Crassus looks brilliant. I really like the subtlety tie in's to the Genestealer's. You can imagine a PDF force having that in the Arsenal and not noticeing the insidious infiltrators gradually taking over. I'm far more impressed by the model than I thought I was on the website you've made it seem far larger.

Wow thanks llama! I appreciate that, particularly since I was trying to walk the fine line you describe, chugged it worked!

Alpharius wrote:Still works fine for me.

Though he probably gets it is some Canadian Euro Shoppe or some such...

Ya, there is an English ( as in of England, not the language) store here that had it. Bought it on a whim... Still, I would figure places like barnes and noble might have it no? Their equivalents up here carry international mags...

I was only kidding you know!

It looks like it might be put out by the FSM* people too.

*FSM = Fine Scale Modeler, not Flying Spaghetti Monster.

lol hey it was a good guess! And yes, I could believe it was in the same family as FSM, very similar.

I am a couple pages late answering the "shroud" question, but they are technically called "canvas mantlet covers". But are usually just called dust covers.

Cheers,
Effendi

Dust covers, gotcha!

Ok guys, so, a bit of a dilemma... I am essentially done, except for AB'ing the lights in back above the door, and the lens of the searchlight in front. I may do an ink spray for oil stains in a few select areas too, but all of that will go very quick. I have also soot pigmented the autocannon barrels and vents...

My dilemma is, whether or not to add 'muddy' into the mix here. Part of me wants to do it, and it could look cool, but another part says leave well enough alone, this would be a city or urban type command vehicle, and it wouldnt be covered in mud.

I am thinking to speckle some dust colored accumilations near the tracks, and to run pigment wash of varyings rusts and dusts into the track recesses themselves, but no further... or... should I just leave it be all together?

Note, it essentially looks the same, the dozer blade is on and weathered, the turrets are painted, and the freehand markings are on, but those are all relatively small touches. the main colors and tracks are still as they appeared in the last wip shots. What say ye?

Sticking to 'urban' weathering sounds good to me. Don't want to over-egg the pudding, now. But rusting up the tracks a bit makes sense.

As an aside: it looks to me like you're maintaining the pearlescence of metallic paints whilst applying gloss varnish. Am I mistaken, or have you a technique for me to beg?

I would go for dust, not mud, as if it is used as a "limo" then it would be kept fairly pristine between trips.
Especially if its kept in an urban environment. I just found my old deathwing compilation book, really enjoyed reading the old story about the beginning of the deathwing and the white armour.

I say "dust it" but don't go full on off-roading with it. These are classy genestealer cults, not soccer hooligans er Orks.

Agreed with all above. I think you have a good handle on it Tom, follow your gut.

Yes, I too am inclined to agree. A little bit of mud or dirt that has splashed up might not look bad but don't do too much. I think using rusty effects on the tracks sounds like a solid plan but not that sold on the idea of too much dirt and mud on the sides.

I recently pondered this a little for my WIP GCult wagons. Done well, muddy tracks, etc. have a lot of visual impact. But if I muddied my wagons, IMO my infantry should be equally muddy. Sometimes I see armies with muddy tanks but infantry with pristine boots and it makes me scratch my head a little. Setting aside the fact that I envisioned my "world" as an arid one, I decided I didn't have any interest in muddying everything in my army.

So I'm another vote for dusty weathering instead of mud. That way we see more of your pretty paint jobs.

Thanks guys, I went ahead and did it, think of it as rustyness in the track recesses, and the hint of an arid terracotta environment, but not overt kakking of clumps of mud, nor wet mud. I didn't spatter either... It looks pretty damned sexy if I do say so myself... closing in on the finish line now! Almost done!

Wonderful! Looking forward to the final pics!

Ok, I would've said just dust too, but now...

I just want to see it!

I set up a shoot last night, took 30 pics of the completed Crassus Limo, and they all looked like kak lol… The harder I try to get nice shots, the more ‘properly’ I set it up, the grainier and more washed out the pix get… I am starting to think my camera is just a tempermental p.o.s lol.

Anyways, it’s done, shots will be incoming as soon as I can take a new set! Thanks for the support though 

I have real issues getting decent pics of larger things... be it a squad or (God forbid) a whole army shot which readers are often clamoring for. My little light box is fine for single minis but does not do well (or is completely useless due to size) with larger things.

It's very frustrating.

After much fiddling with the camera, getting a tripod and putting double diffusion on the top lights, I got a few pictures I was satisfied with (reasonably!) lol

So here we go, Crassus Genestealer Cult 'Limo' -















and just to put a little context to it, a little reminder of who's ride this is



Hope you like!

The fact you don't play 40k saddens me as I would love to see these on the tabletop

A. Maze. Ing! Excellent job, Tom! I like everything about it. The colors, the right amount of weathering. It's just perfect. I like the subdued purple and how it ties it into the cult without being a blue and purple pimp mobile. The weathering was done to just the right amount. Glad you didn't over do it. The freehand looks great and I like the little group shot at the end. Definately worth all the hard work you put into it. Ace job, man.

Legen... wait for it...

...

...

Dary!!!

Legendary yeah!!!

That last pic with the hybrids is really awesome... Nice family you have!! And the Limo suits them well...

Great job Tom...


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Oh, and the autocannons don't look that... weird now. It really must've been the fact they were without paint the first time!

Looking great Tom! Also like the Canadian flag you've got on the side of the limo

Outstanding!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks boys -

@Alf - ya me too lol, maybe one day!

@ Molt - Thanks dude, I def didnt want a blue and purple pimp-mobile lol!

@Yggs, thanks! I did take the advice though, the front cannons were shortened by about 40% in length, so you guys were absolutely right!

@Eggs, gotta represent bra

I would suggest zooming in though, there is a lot of detail not seen at the smaller 'thumbnail' size, including the fact the bugger actually does say limo on it somewhere, and many little symbols actually stolen from icons from the production design of the Nostromo interiors from Alien -

Awsome

:O Wow, that is pretty imense