Seriously sick. Love the Ellyrion Reavers.

I'm in the same boat, in reverse. I was gonna get two sets of Skaven, but now I'm tempted to go for two boxes so I can have plenty of both. Not usually an elf fan, but those spearmen and reavers are amazing, and I absolutely love the griffon.

It does make me tempted to start High Elves. Really it makes me tempted to start both armies, but I think we've got enough local Skaven players already. But to be honest, each new plastic kit GW releases anymore makes me want to start whatever army it's for.

OMG! Those painted rat ogres are freakin awesome! I was excited when I saw the 3ups but these look so freakin awesome, much better then the current boxed ones. Conversions here I come.

Dont care for the high elves...except the griffon, the rest I will give away, sell or trade.

Father Gabe wrote:

Dont care for the high elves...except the griffon, the rest I will give away, sell or trade.

I'm here for you Father!

I'm here for your Sister

I'm here for... the pie?

I know this has already been noted, but I am also VERY happy that High Elves have returned to riding 'regular' 'normal' horses too!

Alpharius wrote:I know this has already been noted, but I am also VERY happy that High Elves have returned to riding 'regular' 'normal' horses too!

I still see some resemblance with the older elvish stallions. But I did like those so... no problem for me. I'm loving this minis.

In white dwarf it says it will be skaven
and i think Empire, I know it's skaven though

..err the box set is Skaven and High Elfs... that's what all the nice pictures are of on the previous few pages you see yes ?

reds8n wrote:..err the box set is Skaven and High Elfs... that's what all the nice pictures are of on the previous few pages you see yes ?

lol!

I dunno. This could be a kind of devious bait-and-switch tactic that GW is now employing to further stamp down rumors and not let us know the truth until the very last minute.

/tongue firmly in cheek

Necros wrote:Doesn't GW know that nerds are wimpy?

Speak for youself!

I may not be pumped, but wimpy?

Everything you know is a lie.

Aduro wrote:Everything you know is a lie.

Yes but that would include what you just said which means that everything we've been told isn't a lie. But then you'd be telling the truth which means everytthing we've been told was actually a lie, which includes your statement....

I wonder if the tutorial booklet is going to be as minimal as Assault on Black Reach, I could go for a story driven tutorial segment, like was promised with Skull Pass but not delivered. Why did we get the pony and tied up Slayer dangit!

BrookM wrote:I wonder if the tutorial booklet is going to be as minimal as Assault on Black Reach, I could go for a story driven tutorial segment, like was promised with Skull Pass but not delivered. Why did we get the pony and tied up Slayer dangit!

Yeah, i was quite confused about how little the AoBR starter booklet helped you learn the rules, it didn't explain any of the rules, unlike the skull pass one which was very in-depth. Fortunatly i wasn't bothered as i wasn't a begginer. And yes the scenery in Skull Pass was a bit random, i found that captured slayer in one of my trouser pockets a couple of weeks ago actually, how it got there only god knows!

You wouldn't happen to be a giant, now would you..

origarmi chicken wrote:In white dwarf it says it will be skaven
and i think Empire, I know it's skaven though

Haha are you serious? Like seriously serious? Looks like there's about 11 pages of this thread you may want to look at... or the GW website where they're pretty content to plug this game and confirm it's contents.

Next load are available

Man on man, that master moulder is PIMP! I will have to get a few of them, Im thinking with a little extra conversion work, that model could also become one of those warp tunneler teams.

Father Gabe wrote:Man on man, that master moulder is PIMP! I will have to get a few of them, Im thinking with a little extra conversion work, that model could also become one of those warp tunneler teams.

Yeah, I think a lot of folks are going to do that. I finaly saw the figures in person today. The griffon doesnt look half as bad in the flesh. If anythign its the back half that looks elongated but it doesnt look unnatural. Them High Elves look super detailed i.e. a pain inthe butt to paint. I think I will paint them in a layered style and keep it simple. The Skaven look like they can be sprayed brown then have the details picked out and given a wash of Devlan Mud.

The more I see the more I like...

...and want!

And I really did NOT want to want another Fantasy army!

Alpharius wrote:And I really did NOT want to want another Fantasy army!

Everybody knows that everybody always wants to want other Fantasy Armies.

That's Warhammer Fantasy Battles Rules.

Need new spearman and archers and i will be very very happy.

Father Gabe wrote:Man on man

I hope that was an oops.

Can we please get a link on the first post of the pictures? It sucks having to browse through 10 pages from either end to get to what we all actually want to look at instead of text.

Um, the topic title says there's pics on pg. 11.

And then they continue on from there.

The OP is, of course, free to edit the original post too.

And remember, not so grumpy!

@OP, please add this link:

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/300/300189.page

For the pictures!

While initially, I agreed with the general sentiment that it's not too hard to trawl this thread for the pics, I'm now thinking it might actually be time for an Image Roundup thread?


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While initially, I agreed with the general sentiment that it's not too hard to trawl this thread for the pics, I'm now thinking it might actually be time for an Image Roundup thread?

Not just a second thread like this, a (possibly locked) sticky with just the pics and a quick synopsis for quick reference and keep this one for discussion. Whatever, I'm sure you mods know what you're doing, I'll stop telling you how to do your job.

Eldar Own wrote: [...]And yes the scenery in Skull Pass was a bit random, i found that captured slayer in one of my trouser pockets a couple of weeks ago actually, how it got there only god knows!

BrookM wrote:You wouldn't happen to be a giant, now would you..

That made my day!

Greets
Schepp himself

I was just reading through today's tale of two gamers and they mentioned that you will be able to preorder the set next Tuesday!

Yeah they've said 10th of August for a while now.

Wish the models weren't so damn good looking though, I've always wanted to start a HE army but been put off by the core troops. Now though, no blooming excuse is there?

So, I am very interested in picking up a Skaven army and I was wondering if anybody would be interested in going 50/50 with me on two boxes. I get the Skaven, you get the Elves, we each get a rulebook, templates, etc etc.

PM me if you want to work something out.

This looks to me like an Eldar/Tyranids box set coming next year, YAY!

It is logical, being that Assault on Black reach is almost identical to Battle for Skull Pass etc. I'll research on where this could be...

Karon wrote:We should probably stop multi-box quote so it doesn't start getting out of control, I've seen it topple threads with the might of a thousand sea turtles.

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I think we all still know its Skaven and Helfs, I DID notice the lots of Skaven VS Helf fluff in the Skaven Armybook, so I guess it makes sense now.

This calculates too! The Iyanden craftworld are probably trying to get revenge on hive fleet kraken! Sorry guys for interrupting your WHFB thread, but this is good news . Back to the topic...

How does it look like that?

please don't

keep the Island of Blood a 40k fee zone

If you expect anything but space marines in a 40k set then you're a madman.

But this is really off topic...

My bro just said this morning that he wants to get IoB and he hates skaven so it looks like I should be able to get some nice rat ogres for my warboss experiments without having to venture onto ebay. Score.

new pics..

SO hot.... Want to make huge Seaguard units....

Im going to make myself an ocean of Sea Guards :3

With only 10 in the box set, it's going to be hard to do that, though :-/. It'd be nice if they'd release a stand-alone box with 16 or 20 of them!

Time for me to find a good teal shade for those Sea Guard - don't want to go for standard-issue blue.

Pity, Luna. Those Rat Ogres look great!

I got a hold of the minis at an eyes only event early last week.

The griffon hs some prettly large join lines. Most experienceed gamers will need lots of greenstuff to satisfy themselves that it is at a level for painting.

The lothern sea guard have everything in 1 piece. Also as you have seen in the pics they do not have the giant gorilla hands of the other plastic sets.

The ellyrian reavers are mega detailed, but still almost useless in WHFB.

The HE mage and skaven warlord are very detailed and would be perfectly acceptable in any army range now as heroes.

The let down for the whole set are the skaven weapon teams which should be alot sharper.


ALSO:
October will see 2 new HE blisters and 3 new HE box sets (plastics) and 'something' special.
I haven't seen the new models for the new sets BUT it seems a lost opportunity for GW to release Islands of blood, the a mini miniature release for HEs and not to just release a new HE book. Primarily they could have shifted the artwork and fluff around, new pics and integrate all the FAQs so the army is fully ready for 8th...

Waaagh_Gonads wrote:

The let down for the whole set are the skaven weapon teams which should be alot sharper.

By sharper do you mean they could have been designed better or that they're lacking in detail?

Current rumours favour the following composition of the October HE release:
4 plastic boxes: White Lions, Phoenix Guard, Dragon Princes, and a Reinforcements box.
2 Metal boxes (nothing definite known, many speculations)
2 Blisters (one perhaps a mounted noble/hero, one perhaps Teclis)
1 spell deck

Kroothawk wrote:Current rumours favour the following composition of the October HE release:
4 plastic boxes: White Lions, Phoenix Guard, Dragon Princes, and a Reinforcements box.
2 Metal boxes (nothing definite known, many speculations)
2 Blisters (one perhaps a mounted noble/hero, one perhaps Teclis)
1 spell deck

Soooo- no spearmen redo, other than the IoB stuff? Or is that the "Reinforcements box"?

Pity, that. Basic troops that actually look graceful would've been nice.

Thats true, HE need new spearmen, the old ones look terrible.

New non-gorilla handed Spearmen for High Elves will be the straw that breaks the 'no new armies' back for me!

Also, any speculation as to what the 2 new metal HE boxes are going to be?

Haha I'm starting HE anyway, but new spearmen would be awesome.

Kroothawk wrote:Current rumours favour the following composition of the October HE release:
4 plastic boxes: White Lions, Phoenix Guard, Dragon Princes, and a Reinforcements box.
2 Metal boxes (nothing definite known, many speculations)
2 Blisters (one perhaps a mounted noble/hero, one perhaps Teclis)
1 spell deck

Seriously? I just spent at least 4 weeks working on Teclis off and on.

I'm def. gonna get like two or three of these .

plastictrees wrote:

Waaagh_Gonads wrote:

The let down for the whole set are the skaven weapon teams which should be alot sharper.

By sharper do you mean they could have been designed better or that they're lacking in detail?

Not so much lacking in detail but the detail is 'washed out'/ lumpen.

They're a hell of a lot better than what they had before...

Warpfire Thrower painted up. I agree with Gonads, it's not a massive leap in quality from the existing metal mini compared to say, the Rat Ogres.

I agree that the plague mortar could be alot more detailed, but I think the Warpfire thrower is a million times better than the massive junk blob it was. I am just sad that the most useful weapon team is the inferior design of the two!

reds8n wrote:

Holy Carp! It's Ocean Master!

Paint him up as such - that would be awesome!

(Including appropriate weapon conversion, of course!)

lol!

For completeness, the other two pics from today:

Hrm...You know, the more I look at it, the more I'm not so wild about the Reaver's horse. Still...it's an improvement over the Rage-ponies of yesteryear. The Reavers themselves are quite nice, though.

WTF? those Rats don't look like Monkeys!

I just noticed that the horse's backside is really tiny compared to the front.

Elven steeds have cute bottoms. It's their special power...

Jin wrote:Hrm...You know, the more I look at it, the more I'm not so wild about the Reaver's horse. Still...it's an improvement over the Rage-ponies of yesteryear. The Reavers themselves are quite nice, though.

Full agreed. I think a bit of green stuff to bulk out the underside of the horse where it's not covered by the barding will do the trick. Also needs some on the neck - there's no "throat" area on these models, it's just a head stuck on a triangular neck.

The riders look great, though, and I think they're salvageable.

Todays pics:

Want want.

Epic Swordmasters look epic.

The Island Of Blood set goes up for Advance Order next Tuesday. For those planning to buy it, how many are planning to buy more than one? How many are looking to trade one of the armies in it to double their models for the money?

I'm planning on getting 3, but I'm giving the skaven forces to my friends while I keep the high elves.

My friend who is thinking of getting into WHFB likes the look of the HE. I'll try to convince him of buying the pack so I can keep the Skavens.

I'll be buying for the High Elves, looking to swap someones HE for the skaven. Don't really want skaven haha.

Might be useful to have a pinned swapsy thread in the trading forum.

Munch Munch! wrote:I just noticed that the horse's backside is really tiny compared to the front.

Flashman wrote:Elven steeds have cute bottoms. It's their special power...

And I'm sure they tank you for noticing - it isn't easy keeping that figure you know!

Seriously though, these are some amazing plastics, and realyl set the bar high going forward.

We really, really, REALLY should NEVER see new releases that echo the abominations that are the new minotaurs and the Razorgor, ever again.

Really.

But are the horses from Toytown?
(for those of a certain age that remember larry the Lamb)

The forlegs have square knees and square sections

Alpharius wrote:We really, really, REALLY should NEVER see new releases that echo the abominations that are the new minotaurs and the Razorgor, ever again.

I'm still undecided on those figures. Since I got back into 40k last year Ive seen a fair few odd looking models and some real beauties, prety much like the old days. For me it shows how important the 'Eavy Metal painters are in the product chain as some of their reccent paint jobs have been very poorly thought out. The Minotaurs are a case in point - an average painter who paints them a dark colour and then gives them a wash of Devaln Mud wont find that the models stick out much from the rest of the army. the problem comes if peopel try to be clever and apply beastman sensibilities to the minotaurs in terms of large swathes of flesh. Back in the day Minotaurs and other furry beasties weren't covered all in fur texture and yet were painted as if they were covered in fur. A modern example if the hind quarters or the griffon from Island of blood. It has a smooth surface but will be painted to look like fur. If you apply the same principle to the Minotaurs and I dare say the Razogore then they wont look as bad as the official pics make them out to be.

For a more extreme example, look athow John Blanche paints his figures. They are the same models but the style of painting gives them a whole new look.

Also I am quite sure that there will be people who put the Griffon and the Rat Ogres from The Island of Blood in room 101 with the Minotaur and Razogore.

Bloodwin wrote:The Minotaurs are a case in point - an average painter who paints them a dark colour and then gives them a wash of Devaln Mud wont find that the models stick out much from the rest of the army. the problem comes if peopel try to be clever and apply beastman sensibilities to the minotaurs in terms of large swathes of flesh. Back in the day Minotaurs and other furry beasties weren't covered all in fur texture and yet were painted as if they were covered in fur. A modern example if the hind quarters or the griffon from Island of blood. It has a smooth surface but will be painted to look like fur. If you apply the same principle to the Minotaurs and I dare say the Razogore then they wont look as bad as the official pics make them out to be.

I've always found the "the minotaurs would look good if you only painted them to hide their details!" line of reasoning to be unconvincing. If I'm paying Porsche prices for luxury models, I shouldn't be confined to a certain painting scheme just to get a passable look from them.

Luckily, the Isle of Blood minis don't appear to have that problem. They appear to look good painted and unpainted, which means they'll probably look good regadless of how light/dark you paint them.

The new Minotaurs on close inspection are great looking models and large too. Just don't over-emphasize the shading on them like that horrid picture on the GW website. Like the Giant kit they are large enough and have deep enough sculpting that they actually have some natural shadows on them, so you need to do subtle shading instead of exaggerating it as is the norm for smaller models.

I really,really dislike the rat ogres. The older rat ogres IMO were much more furious, and ogre-like, rather than a cartoony, giant armed thing with a tiny hamster head.

As much as I despise the high elves, I think those models look great. It's just the skaven.. the non-helmeted heads look like screaming hamsters. I know I will get alot of negative responses, but I really believe the mono posed plastic skaven from back when looked much more like rats, although they weren't as skinny.

I love those Rat Ogre models so much that I am thinking of running them as Razorgors or unit fillers in my Minos in my Beastmen army...

Ram: The older skaven were indded more bulky and rat like.
I think GW have changed them alot though for a reason.
Going way back when to the mono-pose 3 parters (model, shield, base) they were more warrior like with the pose and size.

I think they now want to make them look a bit weaker and more panicked, rather than well trained uniformed warriors.

I agree on the Rogres aswell.
They will be getting head swaps to the multi-part Rogre heads.


As bad as night runners looked when they got released, they now look tons better next to the new skaven.




Set wise though i think ill be buying 2-3 sets, then grabbing more parts from ebay (poisoned wind mortar, thrower etc etc)

I will be buying/splitting at least 2 box sets possible more of them depending on how many people want to get high elves. If I get multiples I will probably keep 2 books and 2 full sets of Rats and any more than that I will probably sell the Characters and extra books. :-P Yay E-bay and Bartertown.

I don't even play High Elves or Skaven and I'll be getting at least one of those boxes for myself. 1 for the mini rule book (there is one in the box right?), 2 because of the Skaven models (in my opinion the entire new range are amongst the best models in 40k and WHFB and 3 because the wheels in my head have started turning as far as how to convert that AWESOME Griffon into an Abyssal Terror for VC.

@Warboss Imbad: Yeah, a mini rulebook's included. It's in full colour as well.

A Black Ram wrote:I really,really dislike the rat ogres. The older rat ogres IMO were much more furious, and ogre-like, rather than a cartoony, giant armed thing with a tiny hamster head.

As much as I despise the high elves, I think those models look great. It's just the skaven.. the non-helmeted heads look like screaming hamsters. I know I will get alot of negative responses, but I really believe the mono posed plastic skaven from back when looked much more like rats, although they weren't as skinny.

they obviously liked Mr Hyde in "the league of extraordinary gentlemen".

Todays pics:












(proof that the 200 pages mini rulebook includes the reference section)

The FLGS is getting their demo copy in today, but were told by their rep that they are totally forbidden from showing it to anyone until next week. I just find that completely amusing given we've already seen EVERYTHING in it. Although I'm surprised they've got the white templates in it. Doesn't the 40k starter come with the better green ones?

Could it be they don't want the stuff shown off until it's painted?

That's weird. My flgs has had the iob set for about a week, and most of it's painted up.

BrassScorpion wrote:The new Minotaurs on close inspection are great looking models and large too.

I disagree. I find them to be among the worst plastics GW has ever done. Almost as much of a travesty as the plastic daemonettes, although at least it can be said that the minotaurs are maintaining a consistent level of suck from the previous metal models, as opposed to replacing and making unavailible something that was truly great.

To keep this on topic, the Rat Ogres thankfully show none of the problems that the minotaurs do. The ROgres may be hideous mutated monstrosities, but at least their muscles sit in such a way that they could believably produce movement. They look more like real muscles, rather than inflated air bladders that have been taped to the skin. Their heads resemble rat heads, as opposed to just being a giant muscly block for no reason (muscle-bulge noses, WT ). I can understand if someone doesn't like the design choices for the ROgres, but at least their designer demonstrated some basic attempt at believable anatomy.

Aduro wrote:The FLGS is getting their demo copy in today, but were told by their rep that they are totally forbidden from showing it to anyone until next week. I just find that completely amusing given we've already seen EVERYTHING in it. Although I'm surprised they've got the white templates in it. Doesn't the 40k starter come with the better green ones?

Yeah, but they also have all kinds of futuristic detailing on them. Besides, who would buy those gold-painted plastic templates if the ones included in the starter set weren't lousy?

I figured the starter would come with the gold painted templates, like how the 40k one comes with the green templates even though those are sold separately as well.

Aduro wrote:I figured the starter would come with the gold painted templates, like how the 40k one comes with the green templates even though those are sold separately as well.

I'd have hoped for translucent yellow, myself.

Well I have the red ones from the last gamers ed so I will give away the cheepies.

With regard to the LFGS not painting them up
people have already posted here about going and seeing them being painted up.
And at least a week or so back.

I'm going to go really extreme, and attempt to Maelstrom three/four of these. I just need an Army Book for each and a few more units, and I'm set.




Wait, did that last bit look like a pun?

Heh, it is tempting.

I just ordered both rulebooks off maelstrom this morning, along with the Daemon spell cards. Not that I have a Daemon army, but I thought just in case.

I'm thinking of ordering one of these from GW for speed of delivery, got the rulebook two days early. Then get a second, possible third from Maelstrom.
GW sure knows how to squueze cash from me once or twice a year, even if I had zero plans to spend with them.

The idea of Seaguard vs Corsair battles along a coast battlefield would be pretty funky as well.

Just had a look at the starter box introduction booklet. Weird. Tells you the names of characters and background plus what other races exist in the Warhammer world, but refers to the stat lines in the BRB for actually playing. No introductory scenarios, no rules for the miniatures. You basically need both army books in addition to the starter box to make your first game (and read the full rules book and army books first of course). A big step backwards from the BfSP booklet. Don't know what they were thinking. Weird!

That is odd... They could easily have re-printed a few statlines and the most basic scenario into the intro book, surely?

Basic characteristics listed at the back of the little BfSP Rulebook for all armies
Stats given in the "Read This First" BfSP starter book

That is indeed a step backwards and disappointing to hear.
It is the equivalent of not having batteries supplied.

Disappointing, but frankly, great marketing for GW. "Hey buy this 'starter' set. What? It doesn't come with everything you need to play? Oh, well, let's remedy that. Here are two $25 books that will give you what you need." Remember the old Microsoft adage: "It's not a bug, it's a feature."

Kroothawk wrote:Just had a look at the starter box introduction booklet. Weird. Tells you the names of characters and background plus what other races exist in the Warhammer world, but refers to the stat lines in the BRB for actually playing. No introductory scenarios, no rules for the miniatures. You basically need both army books in addition to the starter box to make your first game (and read the full rules book and army books first of course). A big step backwards from the BfSP booklet. Don't know what they were thinking. Weird!

Isn't that pretty much the same as the 40k starter booklet?

No. The 40k starter set's booklet has the stats and points costs for the units included. All that's missing is the special rules.

In case it hasn't been posted here yet, I'm hearing a $99 US price for Island Of Blood as a confirmed price from GW employees when this set goes on sale this coming Tuesday.

Eek
that will be around the £70 mark?


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£62 at current rates

99 GBP if GW's accountants have their way...

Well I've heard its going to be $150 AUS dollar. Don't see why it would be cheaper/more expensive then the W40k starter set.

Oh, I can see why it would be more expensive than Black Reach, and it apparently will be. I've heard this $99 price at two different stores from employees who were told to provide the information to customers.

Interesting. This is probably why GW follow a policy of very limited times between official sneak peeks and release dates - it gives people time to get over the initial 'Imigodthatsawsome!' and reconsider buying the set. My initial impression of the models was they they're amongst the best GW have done, but the more I see of the Elves, the less awesome they look. There are some odd proportions, and they're still, overall, lacking in dynamism. The Skaven are far more consistent, and still look great to me.

Chibi Bodge-Battle wrote:Eek
that will be around the £70 mark?


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£62 at current rates

GW UK have confirmed this will be selling for £60 in the UK.

Where did they confirm this?

How much in Australia?

Wow, now that's an amazing new low if it turns out to be true. I guess they really don't intend on selling the starter set to new players then if you can't even play a game with what comes in the box.

This isn't "batteries not included", this is leaving out essential components from the box, and forcing the customer to call and ask "WTF?", and telling them "Ha ha, oh yeah, you have to give us another $50 in order to play." bs.

At the very least, statlines are in the rulebook. You can play with what's in the box.

Oh, the main rulebook has the summary in the back for all the armies. So as long as that's included with the mini rulebook then I guess you're right.

The GW website says the mini-rulebook has the bestiary.

Took a friend to the local GW for a tutorial WHFB game. That game plus the awesome painted models from Island of Blood on display pushed him over the edge.


He's getting a starter box.

kastellan wrote:How much in Australia?

About a hundred Australian dollars.

...

You *are* going to buy it from Maelstrom/Wayland, right?

Up on website for pre order, £60 as rumoured.

Up on the site now, pretty happy to see the set is £60. Could have seen it being a bit higher, and if it was i may have had a re-think about splashing the cash.
No rush but i will be snapping this up.

You can say ....What The Feth now after seeing that GW Australia have posted the cost as being $165 .

Just did a quick jump over to the exchange rate , and that converts to GBP 95.37 or US$ 150 .

Maelstrom link from HBMC in 5...4...

Lork Skystompa wrote:You can say ....What The Feth now after seeing that GW Australia have posted the cost as being $165 .

Ouch!

How many places do GW have to manufactur all their products, oviously in the UK we have a factory producing these products, i asume america proberley has a couple, does Oz have to import it all from the states? if so it would explaine why you have to pay so much for your models.

$165 is absolutely ridiculous. Like what the hell why is it so damn expensive? I was dead set keen on getting this box, but after seeing the price I'm no longer going to buy. GW really shot themselves in the foot by putting it that high, coz I know of a few gamers that will NEVER pay that much for it, its just insane.

Almost worth ordering it from England and getting it shipped over, would work out cheaper.

kastellan wrote:Almost worth ordering it from England and getting it shipped over, would work out cheaper.

"Almost"? 100 AUD from the UK is a pretty good deal. If I wanted to collect High Elves or Skaven I'd be buying it.

UltraPrime wrote:Maelstrom link from HBMC in 5...4...

I was going to post both the wayland and maelstrom link but neither of them have it on their site yet....

Yeah but then I have to go to all the trouble in ordering and what not. And I'm trying to support local businesses in my hometown. But I don't know if I will anymore with it being $65 more expensive.

MasterSlowPoke wrote:At the very least, statlines are in the rulebook. You can play with what's in the box.

So Skaven weapon teams have 2 strengh 3 attacks and nothing else? Impressive!

I won't go into detail, but the "unpack, glue together, read 200 pages (plus the army books) and you can play at once" approach is not what I would call a starter set. It is a nice alternative batallion, but not for beginners. Compare what the 7th edition starter booklet included!

£35 to ship to Aussie?

Hmmm
are they sending them one at a time by airmail?

is the exchange rate bad for Australian Dollars against Sterling?

Chibi Bodge-Battle wrote:

is the exchange rate bad for Australian Dollars against Sterling?

No, currently buying 0.60c per pound. Which is as good as its been in a while. So quite disappointing but oh well.

Well, at least they've finally figured out that six dice isn't enough for a starter set, so now we've got ten.

these models look really kool def going to get a set

I will try and update this as often as possible....

Below are the webstores that are offering Island of blood at discount.

As I post I will rank them in order of cost and will include details on shipping with links to shipping policies

Firestorm Games
http://www.firestormgames.co.uk/index.php?route=product/product&keyword=island%20of%20blood&category_id=0&product_id=10145
£54.99
Free shipping worldwide with orders over £30


Sites yet to include IOB on site
Wayland Games
Maelstrom Games
OG Games

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Great idea, Munkey. Already I've learnt about a UK discount retailer I hadn't heard of before.

AlexHolker wrote:Great idea, Munkey. Already I've learnt about a UK discount retailer I hadn't heard of before.

Glad it could be of use. Firestorm are quite good actually. I learnt about them through Warhammer.org.uk They are a brick and Morter retailer and run a load of tournaments out of there through various Cardiff Wargaming clubs.

OK, now someone do the US stores!

Please?

Congrats GW and good luck, my run with WFB is now over. BfSP was an awesome set with a metric crapton of figs at a great price. $75 rulebood and a far inferior (to the previous edition) $99 Starter Set just does not sit well with me and I'm done with you adjusting the rules to sell more models.

Bring on Kings of War! I'm sure all my old figs I have lying around will work just fine.

Despite my earlier enthusiasm, I am falling somewhat into the same camp. The new models are amazing, but I don't actually want to start a new army (I've just sold off three of my armies to cut down on the amount of crap I have lying around here). Thank god for time to reflect, eh?
At the moment, the big rulebook does not seem like good value for money for me- I know the WFB fluff backwards, and don't expect more than perhaps two pages worth of new material in this book. The book is too unwieldy to make it useful for the sort of gaming I do (travelling to a club or tournament on public transport) and the price is just way too high when I compare it to other systems. I want the mini-rulebook, but absolutely hate messing around with ebay and the like. I'm sure I'll get one, but I'm not bothered buying the starter for it.
Lo and behold, Mantic are giving rules away for free, and their new starter has more models than the GW one at a much reduced cost. This is much more attractive to me as a product.
I've noticed this happening to me with several new GW releases- I was really excited by the boar boyz, river trolls, bloodcrushers and plastic fell beast. Then every time, I looked at the price and my enthusiasm dropped. I think GW make an excellent product, but it might be that they've hit my price cieling. Heh. Not saying I'll never buy GW again, but with all the other options out there...

Wayland & Dark Sphere should be about £45-48 + postage if their usual discount is applied.

Yep, Dark Sphere has it for £45 web price + postage (£52.77 is cheapest option for the UK) or if you live in London you can go to their shop in Waterloo and get it for £48 off the shelf.
http://darksphere.co.uk/pgsearch.php?P=19216

Guh. $99? Wonder if/when The Warstore's gonna post ordering details for the boxes.

We already know what The Warstore will be - $80 + $4.95 shipping, right?

kastellan wrote:$165 is absolutely ridiculous. Like what the hell why is it so damn expensive?

Because that's the way our pricing works over here. Yes, it's ridiculous... but it's also in line with the mark-up on everything else here, so shouldn't really have come as a surprise to anyone.


It's a shame, but they seem to have gone back to the 'boxed game' idea (ala 5th edition WHFB or 3rd Edition 40K) rather than the more recent 'cheap starter set' which appeared to have been doing so well for them.

Urgh, if it's $165AU then it'll be nigh-on $200NZD, that's a 100% price increase from their last WFB starter kit.

**** off GW, I'm not paying that.

It's bad enough I got gouged for the big book (I assumed it would be the same price as the last one, or similar, and it wasn't labeled yet at the store - being release night. When I checked my bank statement I went ) but I'm not paying 200 bucks for what was only worth 95 the the last time around.

WOW. 99.00. Piss on that. Hell, I just wanted it for the rulebook and was going to ebay the rest anyway, but feth that.


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Nope, not on ebay yet. Soon, precious.

grizgrin wrote:WOW. 99.00. Piss on that. Hell, I just wanted it for the rulebook and was going to ebay the rest anyway, but feth that.


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Nope, not on ebay yet. Soon, precious.

Also... ya know... not OUT yet.

@Alph - Yeah, it'll be the standard 20% off + $5.95 (+ NY Sales Tax for me :().

Correct, it's $5.95 now. Neal had to raise it a few years ago a whole $1 with all the increases in shipping rates.

The War Store is a fantastic place to order GW and other game stuff and the flat shipping fee makes it an especially good deal when purchasing gets near or beyond the $100 mark. I just bought a pile of stuff from there a couple weeks ago and it saved a lot of money. On top of that the service was fantastic and incredibly fast.

I wasn't thrilled with this model at first, but that paintjob really made it pop! That thing looks every bit the fierce predator.

A definate purchase at $75 had turned into a 'maybe if I get some overtime' at $99...

Terminus wrote:

I wasn't thrilled with this model at first, but that paintjob really made it pop! That thing looks every bit the fierce predator.

Link's broken for me. What is it?

I assume the griffin, from what he says in the post...

UPDATED LIST:

Below are the webstores that are offering Island of blood at discount.

As I post I will rank them in order of cost and will include details on shipping with links to shipping policies

Dark Sphere
http://darksphere.co.uk/pgsearch.php?P=19216
£45.00
Delivery Within UK - Standard Parcels (£7.77); Parcel Force (£8.00); Special Delivery (Up to £500 insured) (£22.60)
Worldwide Delivery offered however no prices offered during checkout process
http://darksphere.co.uk/FAQ.php#delivery

Total War Gamer
http://www.totalwargamer.co.uk/warhammer-island-of-blood.html
£48.00
Standard Delivery in UK 5-7 Days £3.99, Courier Delivery 4-5 Days £6.99
£15.00 Delivery to Australia & New Zealand!!!!!!!!! 10-15 Day Delivery
http://www.totalwargamer.co.uk/shipping-and-returns.html

Maelstrom Games
http://www.maelstromgames.co.uk/index.php?act=pro&pre=gwk_wfb_ess_xcm_108_001
£54.00
Free shipping worldwide

The Wargame Store
http://www.wargamestore.com/The-Island-of-Blood-Warhammer-Fantasy-Battle-Game-p-17897.html
£54.00
UK Delivery - Free Standard Delivery; First Class Delivery (£2.99)
North America & Australia - £20.00

Wayland Games
http://www.waylandgames.co.uk/Pre-Orders/Games-Workshop/September-2010/The-Island-of-Blood-Warhammer-Fantasy-ENGLISH/prod_10771.html
£49.00
Delivery Within UK - Courier (£5.95); Standard Parcel (£7.06); First Class Parcel (£8.22)
Delivery to New Zealand / Australia - Air Mail (£6.00); DHL (£71.44!!!!)
http://www.waylandgames.co.uk/shipping-policy/info_8.html



Firestorm Games
http://www.firestormgames.co.uk/index.php?route=product/product&keyword=island%20of%20blood&category_id=0&product_id=10145
£54.99
Free shipping worldwide with orders over £30

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One thing's been bugging me:

Why Skaven?

They've never struck me as a particularly popular army - Warhammer's Tyranids really - and they're certainly quite specific for a starter box, unlike Orcs.

They're not... generic enough, if you know what I mean. Empire/Orcs or even High Elves/Orcs (like 4th Ed) would have made more sense to me.

H.B.M.C. wrote:One thing's been bugging me:

Why Skaven?

They've never struck me as a particularly popular army - Warhammer's Tyranids really - and they're certainly quite specific for a starter box, unlike Orcs.

They're not... generic enough, if you know what I mean. Empire/Orcs or even High Elves/Orcs (like 4th Ed) would have made more sense to me.

They seem to compliment the 2 different playing styles - High Elves - smaller elite army & Skaven - Hordes

H.B.M.C. wrote:One thing's been bugging me:

Why Skaven?

They've never struck me as a particularly popular army - Warhammer's Tyranids really - and they're certainly quite specific for a starter box, unlike Orcs.

They're not... generic enough, if you know what I mean. Empire/Orcs or even High Elves/Orcs (like 4th Ed) would have made more sense to me.

Diversity? Pushing a less popular army? Pushing a GW-own concept race? Sell a Horde army? Use the clan rat (and Squeek) sculpts again and add some missing units (weapon teams)? Do another small body army to fill sprues with lots of miniatures? ...

Skaven got a major FOTM boost with their recent army book, combine that with the fact that they're now THE horde army for WFB, it's an obvious choice. (IMO)

Skaven are a sickening horde army, although big units of WE (with cauldron support) also rip through enemies.

Also, horde White Lions are very, very, very good. 30 WL facing a 6 wide dwarf block killed 16 dwarfs in one round...

Just a speculation for everyone who has seen the "Read this first" booklet":
My guess is that the High Elf well with the Lion head will be an upcoming Elven terrain piece, together with the columns and maybe the building.

An interesting idea. I'm definitely up for some race-specific terrain.

190$ NZD which is about 86.5 pounds.


Yeah, I'm shipping this from wayland or Maelstorm

burning_phoneix wrote:190$ NZD which is about 86.5 pounds.


Yeah, I'm shipping this from wayland or Maelstorm

Maelstrom pre order just came up on their site. Have updated the pricing post above

Ordered one from GW last night, just to get it hopefully a few days earlier.. yes that is pretty sad.

Not sure about getting a second IoB box now, may just get the Skaven Battalion and a Doomwheel.

Got a big result though as my wife has decided to give the Asur a go, this is mainly good because it gives my Druchii their hated army to play and I don't mind Skaven anyways, she also wouldn't have got a Doomwheel as she doesn't like them, which would have made me a sad panda. So yeah all good.

Not sure what she'll do mind, she hates the 'pointy' helms of the High Elves, has said she plans to trim down or replace with head guard and/or hair on every figure that has one. So I'll be interested in seeing what she comes up with. (This work will be coming from a person who got her fully sculpted female Trollslayer in the finals case at GD four years ago, sadly we haven't been since.)

She'll want a Battalion as well, but she says she'd rather wait for the repackaged one later this year.

But yeah, Druchii v's Asur here I come, very happy today.

Gonna go for two boxes from Maelstorm. From $165Oz for 1, to $186Oz for 2 on Maelstrom.

I saw the box yesterday.

1. There is NO TERRAIN.

2. The intro book shows what the units are how to assemble them how to paint them some tactical tips (refering to the rulebook) and how to expand the collection. There isnt a basic rules game, instead players are directed to the main rules from ther outset.

Hi Orlanth

Can I just clarify please?
The Skull Pass booklet had a very simple process going through the various aspects of basics from movement to combat. IIRC there may ahave been a little scenario at the end for magic.

This was very helpful to a complete beginner such as myself.

So thie basic movement/shoot/combat scenarios are not included in the IoB booklet as (Kroothawk i think it was) said earler?
sorry to be so dim, it just seems such a strange ommission, it is baffling.

H.B.M.C. wrote:One thing's been bugging me:

Why Skaven?

They've never struck me as a particularly popular army -...

That's possibly why. Lift the profile of a less-popular army a little.


That, and I've always had the impression that the studio have a thing for skaven, given how often they seem to pop up in the fluff.

Wayland Games have their pre-order up.

insaniak wrote:

H.B.M.C. wrote:One thing's been bugging me:

Why Skaven?

They've never struck me as a particularly popular army -...

That's possibly why. Lift the profile of a less-popular army a little.


That, and I've always had the impression that the studio have a thing for skaven, given how often they seem to pop up in the fluff.

If anything, other than being a studio favorite, don't you just need a metric-crapton of models for that army too?

H.B.M.C. wrote:One thing's been bugging me:

Why Skaven?

They've never struck me as a particularly popular army - Warhammer's Tyranids really - and they're certainly quite specific for a starter box, unlike Orcs.

They're not... generic enough, if you know what I mean. Empire/Orcs or even High Elves/Orcs (like 4th Ed) would have made more sense to me.

You could probably use them to represent Ungors in a Beastmen army, which is a start I suppose. But I agree: another army would see more use. Orcs for Snakebite Orks, Chaos or DE for humanoid bodies for conversions, or Undead for the piles of corpses that evil armies leave lying all over the place. You could even make them skeletons and zombies from the good faction from the box, so that a devoted converter could combine the two armies into one massive undead horde.

H.B.M.C. wrote:One thing's been bugging me:

Why Skaven?

They've never struck me as a particularly popular army - Warhammer's Tyranids really - and they're certainly quite specific for a starter box, unlike Orcs.

They're not... generic enough, if you know what I mean. Empire/Orcs or even High Elves/Orcs (like 4th Ed) would have made more sense to me.

You know, I've been wondering the same thing. And the only conclusion I can really come to?

They picked them as they're a very very Warhammer specific army. Orcs are everywhere in Fantasy games, but actual Ratmen--who aren't turning into rats during the full moons at least--are kinda rare, aren't they?

Orlanth wrote:2. The intro book shows what the units are how to assemble them how to paint them some tactical tips (refering to the rulebook) and how to expand the collection. There isnt a basic rules game, instead players are directed to the main rules from ther outset.

This is not correct.
1.) The intro book gives a paragraph about the background of each unit, no rules.
2.) The intro book only shows how to assemble the griffon, all other instructions are on the inside of the box.
3.) No painting guide, just four uncommented pics of different painting stages of a clan rat, and that you should buy the painting compendium if you want to know more. You won't find such words as highlighting, dry brushing, inking or blending in the booklet.
4.) Tactical tips ... erm ... not really
5.) The buying tipps are just group photos with comments like "This is High Elf infantry, they are highly disciplined and feared by the enemy".
6.) Not a single scenario, no sinple rules to start with, not even stat lines for the miniatures. "Please read the rulebook".
7.) Instead 8 pages background texts for all races (which really ARE in the rulebook), 2 pages with the global map (same), two pages "Buy terrain!" and another 2 page battle photo.

Wow. Soundls like they threw in some pretty models and a rule book and said, "here it is, if you want to know more, buy more stuff." Not surprising.

I dont know if its mentioned yet but (for the germans here)

Radaddel.de is offering some bargains with the new box too.
(3 boxes for 199,99 Euro)

Also tabletop-marktplatz.de is offering a box for 63 Euro.

Im not related to the stores but i thought these offers are worth mentioning. If thats inapropriate please delete .

Cheers

Le Grognard wrote:Wow. Soundls like they threw in some pretty models and a rule book and said, "here it is, if you want to know more, buy more stuff." Not surprising.

Bear in mind folks that mini rulebook includes the scenario section too. As far as I can tell, the only thing missing is the rules for the models themselves. If they want it to be a true starter set, there should be at least a basic army list for each force with brief rules for each unit. This wouldn't stop you buying the army book as any Skaven Warlord worth his warpstone wants some of the crazy stuff too (Abominations, Doomwheels etc) together with the rules. This omission is a bit slack IMO and prevents it from being a pick up and play set.

Parent "There you go little Jimmy, everything you need to play the crazy wargame you've been badgering me about."
GW Employee "Um... well actually, you're going to need to spend another £30 on these two army books otherwise you've just spent £60 for nothing."

It has the Bestiary section also, from what I understand. Which at least states the Special Rules.

I'm very late to comment on the models I realize, but WOW. Universally gorgeous, the vast majority of GW plastics coming out lately are showpiece worthy sculpts, from foot soldier to MC... makes you wonder what kind of stuff they will be releasing 10 years from now!

Dark Eldar?





Sorry, I had to go there.

lol

too optomistic Vitki
anyhoo quickly back on topic ...

Flashman, the army books are £17.50 now so Jimmy needs another fiver!

MajorTom11 wrote:I'm very late to comment on the models I realize, but WOW. Universally gorgeous, the vast majority of GW plastics coming out lately are showpiece worthy sculpts, from foot soldier to MC... makes you wonder what kind of stuff they will be releasing 10 years from now!

Minotaurs?

Never use absolutes.

MajorTom11 wrote:I'm very late to comment on the models I realize, but WOW. Universally gorgeous, the vast majority of GW plastics coming out lately are showpiece worthy sculpts, from foot soldier to MC... makes you wonder what kind of stuff they will be releasing 10 years from now!

It also makes you wonder how high their prices will be.

vitki wrote:Dark Eldar?





Sorry, I had to go there.

I've got my eye on you...




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Laughing Man wrote:
Never use absolutes.

Also, the minotaurs are fine. People need to take a chill pill on those, and then paint them without using fleshtones.

Yeah... mis-wrote there, I meant this particular box is universally gorgeous... for every San.Guard and IoB there are Minotaurs and Poombagores lol

I maintain that the minotaurs really aren't bad, they only look crap with tallarn flesh on them.

Flashman wrote:

Le Grognard wrote:Wow. Soundls like they threw in some pretty models and a rule book and said, "here it is, if you want to know more, buy more stuff." Not surprising.

Bear in mind folks that mini rulebook includes the scenario section too. As far as I can tell, the only thing missing is the rules for the models themselves. If they want it to be a true starter set, there should be at least a basic army list for each force with brief rules for each unit. This wouldn't stop you buying the army book as any Skaven Warlord worth his warpstone wants some of the crazy stuff too (Abominations, Doomwheels etc) together with the rules. This omission is a bit slack IMO and prevents it from being a pick up and play set.

Parent "There you go little Jimmy, everything you need to play the crazy wargame you've been badgering me about."
GW Employee "Um... well actually, you're going to need to spend another £30 on these two army books otherwise you've just spent £60 for nothing."

... and the painting compendium for X£.

And with scenarios we mean "first steps to learn the rules" scenarios as in the current starter booklet. The new "read this first" booklet is just a big RTFM-sign, so the box is a nice two-gamer-batallion, but not a starter, as you have to read the same 200 pages as in the BRB with no assistance from GW. Lucky, if you have a GW store or FLGS who introduces you to the game. Bad luck if you don't. The you have the plug-and-read-200-pages-and-100pagearmybook-and-play version. No doubt the rest of the box is great, but it doesn't help people to start playing Warhammer.

Is it just me, or is it that GW figured out that a good chunk of sales for the last stater kits were coming from vets, and in typical fashion, tried to go in two directions at once without really getting very far in either?

Dunno if I would be that cynical Ktulhut

There is the danger that a lot more kids who get the set for chrimbo will get fed up very quickly if they are struggling to have an enjoyable game because there are no step by step scenarios to help learn the ropes.

That way there will be potentially fewer sales, post starter set.

ok maybe I am being cynical too

It's very easy to be cynical with GW.

Ktulhut wrote:Is it just me, or is it that GW figured out that a good chunk of sales for the last stater kits were coming from vets, and in typical fashion, tried to go in two directions at once without really getting very far in either?

Say, wait a minute...

Chibi Bodge-Battle wrote:Dunno if I would be that cynical Ktulhut

There is the danger that a lot more kids who get the set for chrimbo will get fed up very quickly if they are struggling to have an enjoyable game because there are no step by step scenarios to help learn the ropes.

That way there will be potentially fewer sales, post starter set.

ok maybe I am being cynical too

No, no I don't think so.

You're both probably right, though I really do think Ktulhut's hit on something here...

$99 has made that a meh for me. I only wanted a couple of mini's out of it. I will just pick up from eBay over the next few weeks when everyone gluts the market.

fullheadofhair wrote:$99 has made that a meh for me. I only wanted a couple of mini's out of it. I will just pick up from eBay over the next few weeks when everyone gluts the market.

What he said.

I was planning on ordering a pair of the sets, but that nice $25 price hike over skull pass definately changed my mind.

Ordered one set, getting skaven bits out of 2 others - 25% off at darksphere was too good to miss, thanks all for the links!

This also means me, not my hubby, gets control of the doesn't-break-your-back rulebook, which is key

Anyone selling off the rule books yet please?

Chibi Bodge-Battle wrote:Anyone selling off the rule books yet please?

Have I lost my mind? That box isn't released yet!

Scottywan82 wrote:

Chibi Bodge-Battle wrote:Anyone selling off the rule books yet please?

Have I lost my mind? That box isn't released yet!

No, you haven't.

It just went on PRE-ORDER yesterday, right?

And for most of use, eBay-ing the minis we want after release will be the way to go.

We'll have to wait until the enthusiasm/hysteria dies down though as initially I'm betting the minis will go for 'too much' and be overbid.

But eventually, the Griffin will be mine!!!

Yup you are one crazy gibbon on a stick of dynamite dude!

My bad Scotty should have phrased it differently. Was anticipating people having fututre spare copies.

And hoping to avoid the enevitable ebay feeding frenzy

I've pre-ordered my set!

Yet to arrange a swap with someone but i'll cross that bridge when i come to it.

On the subject of the price, it's higher than skull pass was (i think) but i kinda expected it to be £60, especially if you split the cost between you and someone else. You paid £30 and you get a griffon for starters, that would normally be around that price, and probably in metal!

The thing that annoys me is that i won't, legally, get to use that griffon in non-island of blood games. You can only have a max of 25% lords, and the very base price for a prince on griffon is 350pts, meaning i'll have to take my HE up to 1400 at least before i can use it. And that's not adding in the prices of magic weapons etc.... Same goes for the fact that only a small proportion of the HE part is core. So i'll probably have to grab a HE battilion as well, poor wallet If you look at it that way, players who have bought the set to start a skaven army have a much better deal.

Kroothawk wrote:

Flashman wrote:

Le Grognard wrote:Wow. Soundls like they threw in some pretty models and a rule book and said, "here it is, if you want to know more, buy more stuff." Not surprising.

Bear in mind folks that mini rulebook includes the scenario section too. As far as I can tell, the only thing missing is the rules for the models themselves. If they want it to be a true starter set, there should be at least a basic army list for each force with brief rules for each unit. This wouldn't stop you buying the army book as any Skaven Warlord worth his warpstone wants some of the crazy stuff too (Abominations, Doomwheels etc) together with the rules. This omission is a bit slack IMO and prevents it from being a pick up and play set.

Parent "There you go little Jimmy, everything you need to play the crazy wargame you've been badgering me about."
GW Employee "Um... well actually, you're going to need to spend another £30 on these two army books otherwise you've just spent £60 for nothing."

... and the painting compendium for X£.

And with scenarios we mean "first steps to learn the rules" scenarios as in the current starter booklet. The new "read this first" booklet is just a big RTFM-sign, so the box is a nice two-gamer-batallion, but not a starter, as you have to read the same 200 pages as in the BRB with no assistance from GW. Lucky, if you have a GW store or FLGS who introduces you to the game. Bad luck if you don't. The you have the plug-and-read-200-pages-and-100pagearmybook-and-play version. No doubt the rest of the box is great, but it doesn't help people to start playing Warhammer.

Aww bless. They think they know what they're on about!

The Island of Blood is billed and promoted as the introductory gateway to the Hobby, NOT the be all and end all. Done correctly (and not everyone will, but that is the fault of the individual not the whole) you have a new Hobbyists very aware of what is involved.

And time for a secret.....Parents actually LOVE this hobby, and all the free activities their kids can attend, and are more than happy to shell out for new bits and bobs, safe in the knowledge that the Staff are there to advise their kid on what they need, to make sure they buy stuff that's useful. Like a second tactical squad, instead of the Landraider.

But of course, I merely have first hand experience. Your opinionating based on third or worse hand experience clearly outweights my own.

How about we don't try to start fights based on whose opinion is more valuable, and stick to discussing the game instead of making digs at each other.

Having fought the urge to jump into WHFB so far, I can't wait for this set to be released. My friend wants the High Elves, so I get to be the skaven. Of course, I'm still trying to get him to buy the rulebook now so I can keep the copy that comes with the box.

Lol, good luck, that things the same price as the Island of Blood isn't it? You might as well buy one each and trade the minis...

I post this here, as there is no current Skaven thread and it seems to be a September release as well:

Scryer in the Darkness wrote:So, we've been getting all excited about Island of Blood as well as chatting about October's High Elves, but how about some Skaven info... they're coming too y'know.

Well, the first lot of four blisters (the currently undefined ones) will be hitting in the second release slot for September and comprise that bitz pack that everybody's gonna love (well at least I think it will be greatly appreciated by many) and the other three, well, let's just say they are three old friends who you will want to give a big ol' hug when you see them... or is it them that will be doing the hugging?

Which is a bit odd, as they are not featured on the GW release poster for September. ANother one from today:

GodlessM wrote:Got a glimpse at the finished HPA yesterday. What a big model, and very grotesque in my opinion.

If something more concrete is known, I will start a new thread.

Tim the Biovore wrote:Gonna go for two boxes from Maelstorm. From $165Oz for 1, to $186Oz for 2 on Maelstrom.

Shipped to Australia
2 from Maelstrom is £108
2 from Wayland is £104

Just saying.

The Three Old Friends are the old metal Rat Ogres, with the blades and claws and bandages and that.

From thewarstore.com:

The time has come for the new Games Workshop starter set release! The Island of Blood will offer new players a start up set with two armies included and enough to play a game right out the box! For those of us that are veterans of the game, it's a great way to save some dough while starting a new army or bolstering your forces! At our standard 20% off discount your sure to save even more money.

If you buy two or more Island of Blood's and mention that you read this Newsletter we will ship your order FREE OF CHARGE! This offer last until next monday, August 23rd.

I opened the box last night and was very disappointed that much is missing compared to Skull pass. There are no character profile sheets or scenarios which is a little annoying especially when the last half of the read me first book is more and add to buy more stuff. There are basic character unit profiles in the back but no special rules, you have to have the army books to play bottom line. Also, no terrain?! I hope it is okay to post this here but if you want the army books to read without buying go to scribd.com/

That's right. Who could possibly object to web based thievery? Oh yeah! Silly me!

Mr Mystery wrote:That's right. Who could possibly object to web based thievery? Oh yeah! Silly me!

wat

And with all that, I think this one is all done.

As this box set is now available, please feel to open up more specific threads in the appropriate sections.