Viktor von Domm wrote:blue tack and it works as modeling clay??? cool!^^
how old is that model?? never saw those anywhere else....seem vintage and cool^^
blue tack only acts as it for botch jobs- they don't hold shape very well, and need a good 2/3 coats of super glue to stiffen it up. Even then, it is prone to breaking and you having to repaint the area- definitely not a straight replacement.
that model is maybe 10/15 ish years old? No clue, but it's young enough for the proportions to fit modern orks, and old enough for the 80's heavy metal feel to it and for it to be in the 40k collector's section.
Viktor von Domm wrote:he chopped up a collectors item....balls^^
well so why did you use blue tac then? sounds like you could need a bit of kneadatite or GS^^
collector's section of the GW website, which is a universally different thing to plain simple collector's item, in that GW collectors is normally models with no rules in game, sold at a normal price (in this case, £7 for the trio), while collector's item normally means rare/OOP, and a lot more expensive ^^
Blue tac because, TBH, I was feeling very creative and didn't have any GS, and didn't want to go out and buy some and for the creative flow to run dry ^^
think of me as a faulty tap- sometimes creativity flows out over a few weeks, sometimes it drips every week or so, and all the creativeness pools at the bottom into the vast sink we call the internet, either being refreshing cool water or undrinkable trash ^^
I also haven't used modelling putty before, and I certainly didn't want my first try to be on the one figure that will represent me on dakka
Viktor von Domm wrote:well... me too... now imagine a man married to a wife that s not into metaphors ... truly hard time... dang thats a metaphor again^^
being married is like wetting yourself- you get a warm feeling, but it tends to get a bit uncomfortable if left to sit
laugh out loud...man i had this coming^^ but rest assured one way or the other i get my vengance for this one^^ and it wll hit you straight into the nadgers^^ it will only take some years from now^^ lol
Automatically Appended Next Post: since I don't have much else to talk about, let's talk about monty python
My favorite sketches have to be:
-falling off of tall buildings (just for the "I have never onc- AAAAAAAAH")
-ministry of silly walks
-it makes me mad
and, of course, the killer rabbit.
So for christmas I didn't get much in the way of models, just a drop pod, but I also got £15 worth of games workshop vouchers and two new gaunt's ghosts books.
I'm thinking I should wizen up and get a tactical squad to make up a half-decent core of troops, and then carry on getting space marines until march (my birthday), by which time (hopefully) my army will be near completion, and then start focusing on the IG aspect of the imperial forces.
i have been thinking... would you be willing for a trade of sorts? i have quite some mits and bobs of SM i probably will never use... an old predator and a rhino... maybe you could have a use for those... even the ocasional SM mini would be there...
oh, and I'm heading to my LGS tomorrow to order the only gaunt's ghosts book I haven't got yet, and providing I have enough time, I might start building my drop pod there.
Maybe an update to the sons of corax if I remember!
So I set my alarm for 10:30 so that I'd be rested but still able to do stuff during the day... it didn't go off and I woke up about 45 minutes ago instead of rushing around the house and getting there for 4:30 or so, the store closes at 5:00 for new year's eve and so there wouldn't be much point, so I'm gonna go in on the 2nd and order it then, and see if I can't glue the drop pod together before that.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Went to my LGS, got 10 more space marines, built 6 while I was there, got home and (d'oh) left my glue and clippers there, and it had already closed.
with the only staff member there being a stand-in for the normal guy who's off sick, so the guy doesn't know my name.
and the store will next be open on thursday.
Feeling in a very 40k mood as I just tabled an opponent by turn 4, losing just one squad as casualties (1500 point game, lost 5 scouts)
getting stuff painted very slowly, but my aim is to get my tactical squad, drop pod, rhino, land raider, terminators, vanguard and sternguard and librarian to be painted before my birthday in march.
hopefully I'll get the tactical marines done by the end of the week, and the terminators the week after.
Lenore was a reference to Edgar Alen Poe's "the raven", to which there are lots of references to in raven guard fluff:
"darkness there, and nothing more" is a line in the poem.
a quote from kayvaan shrike "we strike, fast and lethal, and by the time our enemies can react... darkness there, and nothing more"
a quote from a vanguard veteran sergeant called "Alenpoe"
the only word the raven says in the poem is "nevermore"
the last word Corax said was "nevermore"
Corvus translates into "Raven" in greek, and "Corax" translates into "Raven" in latin.
Lenore was a reference to Edgar Alen Poe's "the raven", to which there are lots of references to in raven guard fluff:
"darkness there, and nothing more" is a line in the poem.
a quote from kayvaan shrike "we strike, fast and lethal, and by the time our enemies can react... darkness there, and nothing more"
a quote from a vanguard veteran sergeant called "Alenpoe"
the only word the raven says in the poem is "nevermore"
the last word Corax said was "nevermore"
Corvus translates into "Raven" in greek, and "Corax" translates into "Raven" in latin.
TBH I haven't done that much recently- I have a club campaign coming up though, and am currently spraying and painting stuff up for that- when that's done, I'll then launch another update, promise!
hah... no rivets invlolved there...tho you might revolve a bit later on... and about the pricetag... try to research that one... each drop is quity chilly expensive.... no alcoholic will drink that for sure^^
Words from david mitchell (british comedian):
"That's why I like our country's customer care- if you're working minimum wage with terrible hours, I wouldn't want you to have a huge smile on your face- that's the sign of either a liar or a moron"
on topic, I managed to get my tactical squad painted, and 3 mostly complete. (sergeant, melta gunner and a regular marine still need touch ups).
also, I started work on converting my chapter master, which I'm not sure I've posted on dakka, but I have posted links to,(a decent enough conversion, but too much regluing and painting stubbed the detail something bad) into Lord Corax- planning to retain a similar pose and the same wings coming out of a jump pack, stood on a pile of rubble, but this time I will be using a few true-scale techniques (filed down terminator legs, thickened torso, terminator arms but normal shoulders and hands), and the helmet will be a beakie.
Not much done yet, just touched up the legs and torso, and quite a bit of work on the lightning claw (started life as a pointing power fist, currently undergoing extensive filing to fit the lightning claw housing), and after this I need to order the jump pack (still deciding on which), to get a suitable head, *maybe* get new wings, finish work on the lightning claw, and to find a suitable 40mm base.
I reckon that should be done in about 2 days, not including time to order the jump pack (all the jump pack designs I like come in 5's...)
my goal is to get Corax built by the end of the month, in which time I also want to finish painting my tactical squad, my librarian and maybe 5 terminators.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Just thought I'd set some deadlines ^^
^^ nice try, but these days by the time I get home it's pitch black, and the camera doesn't like low light, even in my room with the light on and a desk lamp on it, so it'll be this weekend at the earliest, and ATM it's not much to see.
On the plus side, I've pretty much done all I can ATM for Corax- just need to get the jump pack and stick the wings on. When I find my hobby drill, I'm gonna drill the head and right arm so the head can turn and the arm can be swapped with another- I can't decide whether to have Corax with claws outstretched at about waist height and head looking forwards or the right claw pointing and him looking where he's pointing (about 45 degrees from pointing forwards)
Problem is, I want a heresy-era jump pack for him, but they only come in packs of 5, and they cost around £20 per pack.
Asked 3 people, and one says sneaky style (kind of passive, arms lowered, stood still), one says pointing, and you say running/claws ready to attack.
I think the pointing and the hip claws look the best, but someone else at my LGS has a corax model with the hip-height claws, so I might go with pointing.
I'll put a little extra work and see if I can't get the pointing fist how I want, and if I can't, I'll go with your suggestion ^^
watched someother vids there...holy...these guys are beyond anything that could cover sanity... they wouldn´t even know what that would be if it bite them in the rear...
i just wtched fulsom flood desaster... cracks you up something fierce^^
Yeah, gotta love the onion...
I remember seeing a facebook page where a load of people were having a political dispute over an onion news article which they thought was real
lol...the first one after yours made me feel odd just about the time when there was absolutly no point in believing that even an american politician would try to make an act for tooling up kids to be internet capable to chat them up for sex on nikelodean chat...that was very cruel...and yet funny...
There's always those jokes that are so wrong but so funny... Comedians like Frankie Boyle spring to mind (scottish guy, very rascist, banned from the BBC for 2 years).
I remember laughing in the middle of titanic when we were watching it in lesson
Automatically Appended Next Post: To be fair, it was that when the people are floating on the ice and the lifeboat sails through, the guy calls "is anyone alive out there?" and from the back of the room, the assistant teacher calls out "No!"
bit of 40k movement going on- painted another couple of marines, played an immensely fun 5-way 500pt game on a space hulk board, and have nearly finished making a hoover model as an inside joke for another member of the 40k club I go to at school.
good to hear form you... but you know the drill... every new year we need at least ten new pics of yours...or we raise a certain issue of yours again... name of norris...!
Pics I'll upload in a week or so, by which time I'll hopefully of
a- finished most of the GCSE's coming up short-term
b- got some pics up onto the interwebs anyway
c- finished painting at least some of my marines and the hoover
Trust me, it might come to that.
Once I drag the camera out of wherever it's hiding I'm like "I should do this more often", but until then I'm too lazy to go and do it
reminiscent of kid's logic- "I don't wanna go in the bath!" *gets in the bath* "I don't wanna get out of the bath!"
ROFL.... i know that one...oh too well...but honestly... during the time my kids and wife where away...i had still my cam... and they had only the old analog cam... i would go insane without the ability to make new pics...
all right, so we have a page up, but there's practically nothing on it because we've only had one game where a camera has been present and that was only about 5 pictures of some funny stuff, and that hasn't been uploaded yet.
gonna go and spray a few models in a bit, including the hoover. Might get some guys painted by the end of the week (unfortunately, got 3 more tests before then, plus "options evening" to tell us what we can do after school's over, and also a bunch of coursework (at least 4 page's worth)
for the options evening....pay attention mate and tell everything that is on your mind and heart!!!! to have a good option for later to not be frustarted over your work... i honestly wish you that you get a job you like... from my point of view...money is far from everything... try to work in a field that you would love to work... if i am lucky i will get a thrid chance soon... well i say lucky... so do everything that you wont need luck...plan carefully...
I'm porbably going to go to sixth form (basically stay on for another 1-2 years at school and study A-levels, but I don't really know what I want to study.
Also, finished most of the librarian work that I can (black's disappeared so I can't correct a few mistakes, gold and blue have dried up so I can't do much detail work or the left shoulder pad).
Heh. My reasoning is that (even if I didn't want to go to sixth form), if I stay in education another 2 years, recessions normally last 2-3 and so it'll probably have blown over by then, and even if it hasn't I'll have (hopefully) better qualifictions and thus be more likely to be employed.
the photographer was my teacher our time was up before the game was over (we only get 2 hours including setting up and packing away) so we took a video of the board and are going to put the models where they were last time and carry on from there.
I would be doing fine, but the chaos and tyranids, instead of killing each other like I'd planned, teamed up on me and took out 3 terminators- now down to my librarian (1 wound) and 2 terminators, and whatever is dead at the end of the mission is dead for the rest of the campaign, so I'm debating whether to run off the board or not. Thing is, there's a 50/50 chance that in running away the men will be cut down, and I think the necrons might pile in and the ensuing struggle might let me get away and push another squad forwards into the grinder.
We played a game today, and I needed to take 4 armour saves (3+)... lost 3 raven guard that round, then I went to my ally who had all 5 left, and another was cut down then. We then faced a daemon, and 3 more of his men were killed taking it down, so then it was me with 2 models, him with 1, but we had a head start on the approaching chaos and I sacrificed a marine meatshielding the two others to safety, carrying the objective home. So we both took 80% casualties, but claimed the objective. using a special rule of the campaign, 2 of my "dead" men were held captive, and the sergeant and another marine were captured but escaped, the sergeant losing an eye in the process (worse at shooting).
wow, sounds you had wuite some tough gaming luck... and a campaign that starts that hard...ohoh...
good idea to make a vid for this game... the idea to "save" the setup is quite brilliant...and your teach even had his part in this game? cool teach! are your teachers allowed to wear short trousers? lol...
Viktor von Domm wrote:wow, sounds you had wuite some tough gaming luck... and a campaign that starts that hard...ohoh...
good idea to make a vid for this game... the idea to "save" the setup is quite brilliant...and your teach even had his part in this game? cool teach! are your teachers allowed to wear short trousers? lol...
I normally either luck out or am unlucky, though normally that luck swings round later in the game- this time was bad luck the whole way through, it was just that chaos saved us- while the chaos marines were in combat with the necrons for two turns, our 2 marines were in and out of the objective room quickly enough to avoid massacre.
idea to "save" the game was my idea ^^
and the teacher is a P.E teacher, so he's allowed ^^
He was the player I allied with in the game today... We decided that we are going to upgrade the two survivors- his bloodclaw (space wolf initiate) is now a full blown grey hunter (tactical marine), while my tactical marine is now a veteran (more attacks in combat). We plan to give each veteran a colour scheme- mine will have a shoulder pad to be completely white.
... that is sigworthy... but i am just too loyalist for using that one^^
P.E. teacher...that is like sports? lol...yeah, then the shorts do make sense^^
and a good idea it was... when we are nowadays on a trip to a park or something we usually take a pic of the resident map... saves quite a big time of trouble^^ tech that is sometimes helpful^^
also i like the idea to make gaming stuff shown on minis... gives you more identification with your minis and makes you come up with more thought through decisions...hopefully^^
I have done that a couple of times in the past, e.g as an in-joke, my librarian (leader of my campaign army) is now holding a packet of polo mints because of something that happened in the first space hulk game we played three weeks ago. (IIRC). I also have lots of purity seals for my scout sergeant for stuff he's taken out, as well as finished my vacuum cleaner objective marker.
Anyway, school tomorrow, better get off to sleep ^^
There are a few pics of it taken during yesterday's game, but I don't think people have uploaded it- maybe so that pictures are uploaded of the previous week's game.
Got my heresy-era jump packs from chapterhouse today, and apart from a few lumps of resin, they look great!
Not got any superglue ATM though, so I'll have to wait until the weekend beforre marrying them to the torsos :(
about a month to get to me IIRC, and I don't think plastic glue works on resin, it definitely isn't as strong as superglue in any case, so I'm gonna wait until I can get them.
Okay, more of a bump than anything actually meaningful, but the club's been cancelled (IIRC) for the past 4 weeks, but tomorrow we're heading down to the LGS and playing a game. I have ridiculous amounts of work over the next month (up until the end of march 4 pieces of coursework have deadlines, then april is lots of revision, leading up to tests in may/june, at which point I get a long break for warhammerin' )
though to keep you appeased until then, I have ordered some plasticard for some possible modelling work later on, and april will herald the arrival of the centrepiece for my raven guard, and following them will hopefully be a second tactical squad, another transport of some kind, more chapterhouse jump packs and maybe a stormraven. Hopefully by the end of the summer holidays my army will be complete and I can get on to guard and rivetness!
hmmm... i am hooked now... what will you plan to dowith all that nice white plastic?
and somehow i don´t remember school with so many projects...hmmm...and i wasn´t on one of those tree nursery schools either... (joke here might be lost in translation...)
Viktor von Domm wrote:hmmm... i am hooked now... what will you plan to dowith all that nice white plastic?
and somehow i don´t remember school with so many projects...hmmm...and i wasn´t on one of those tree nursery schools either... (joke here might be lost in translation...)
don't understand the joke there, but yeah. Stressful times, but I have a few ways to keep me from giving up ^^
I actually don't know what the plasticard is planned for- I needed a bit of it for a school project (only an A3 sheet), but the minimum order cost was £4 so I bought a bit more while I was at it. I'm also planning on getting some 2mm plasticard rods as "silencers" if I get round to it, but that can wait ^^
I hope I can get the majority of my army at least basecoated in the next month but it depends on how school's going.
well... we hopefully will be seeing your stuff soon... the schoolproject i would love to see too...always a good idea to see what others are doing in school...mind you i will be doing the sitting in school hopefully soon too^^
Also, my resistant materials (DT/woodwork) project is a display case, which has to be painted brown, but when I take it home I might make it rusty metallic, maybe with rivets made of large cut-up dowels or something...
Nah, this is for the display case itself, which is around 30cm by 10cm, with a rounded top. The front is kind of wood framing glass, and I was thinking of adding dowel "rivets" to the frame.
Aye- using my amazing skills with MS paint, here is what it'll look like after I'm finished at school with it: and what I want it to look like when I've 40k-ified it: one of the rivets might act as a handle, I think.
Okay, so the game was 2000 points, and here we (IIRC) the lists:
my raven guard:
shrike
terminator librarian with storm shield
kitted out vanguard veteran squad of 5 (3 sets of LC, 2 TH/SS)
TH/SS terminator squad of 5
land raider redeemer
tactical squad of 10 (bolters, meltagun, power fist)
drop pod (deathwind missile launcher)
tactical squad of 5 (bolters, power sword)
sternguard squad of 5 (bolters)
scout squad of 9 (close combat weapons)
devastator squad of 5 (plasma cannons)
Deployment- I deploy my devastators in a central position on a hill, with my sternguard and 5 marines going down the left flank and land raider/terminators/librarian down the middle. Shrike/vanguards and drop pod/tactical squad are in reserve, with my scouts infiltrating into a piece of woodland terrain near his chaos lord/predator/5 marines down the right flank. His possessed and 5 marines are in the middle, towards the left flank, with bikers and beserkers/abaddon in the middle. His terminators are in reserve.
Turn 1- He wins priority, and moves forward towards my scouts with the lord/5 marine unit and beserker/abaddon and biker units moving towards the scout squad which has killed so much in previous games (obviously now a high-priority target). Possessed run towards my sternguard, along with 10 marines. His shooting is largely innaffectual, with 2 scouts being gunned down in total.
My terminators/librarian disembark and run towards the beserker/abaddon unit, the land raider gunning down 6 of them. My scouts move (and fleet with shrike's army-wide rule) into combat with the 5 marines and lord, killing 3 and losing 2 in the process. The sternguard/tactical squad move diagonally away from the approaching enemies. Plasma fire takes out 4 possessed, with the rest suriving thanks to cover provided by the nearby trees. The terminators lose 3 models in combat thanks to bad rolls on my part and abbaddon's beasting in combat. 10 beserkers are killed in the process.
The possessed fail morale after half of them being wiped out, but rally quickly after that.
current casualties- 3 scouts and 3 terminators for me, 4 possessed, 3 marines and 16 beserkers for him.
Turn 2- He moves his entire left flank, and near-surrounds my sternguard and 5 marines, with help from the freshly-arrived enemy terminators. His bikers join the fray between the terminators/librarian and abaddon/beserkers, tipping the balance in thier favour. The right flank maintains the locked combat, while the predator shoots and kills 2 devastators, who went to ground to prevent further losses. In combat, the scouts take out the other 2 marines, but lose 5 scouts due to fantastically bad rolls on my part. It's now a fight to the death between my scout sergeant "Caddius" and the enemy chaos lord. Down to the bikers, I take out the remaining beserkers, but the terminators/librarian unit is wiped out. The beserkers/abaddon and bikers consolidate towards the lonesome scout in an epic duel on the right flank. The possessed assault the sternguard, manage to bring down a veteran but die in the process, who consolidate into the middle of the three squads facing them.
In a heroic counter-attack at the loss of my main unit, shrike and his vanguard descend to aid the surrounded, outnumbered and outgunned sternguard and marine squads, while over on the right flank, my drop pod arrives, smashing onto a small hill and disgorging 10 marines, who gun down abaddon while the redeemer avenges the death of it's cargo by gunning down the bikers. I opt to move my sternguard and tactical squad away from the middle, instead moving behind the enemy squads, gunning down one.
Current casualties- 8 scouts, 1 marine, 5 terminators, 1 librarian and 2 devastators for me, 20 beserkers, abaddon, 3 bikers, 6 possessed, 10 marines for him.
Turn 3- he assaults my vanguard/shrike with the terminators, losing one man to fire and another in combat. Shrike then kills two before they can attack, while the vanguard take out another two. The last terminator then tried to run, but was mercilessly cut down. The tactical squad move towards the ongoing duel between Caddius and Lord, but are out of assault range. The last chaos squad on the left flank is cut down by the 5 man tactical squad, who lose another man in return. The Chaos Lord then smashed the scout sergeant away with a gauntleted hand, breaking the sergeant's ribs, driving one to puncture his lungs, but not before, with his last ounce of strength propped himself up with his left arm, raised his right, clenching a bolt pistol, and fired a round through the heretic's skull. The only surviving enemy unit was the predator, which was then destroyed by devastator fire.
Later, when the raven guard stalked the smoking battlfield, marking those dead and finishing off mortally wounded enemies, they found no evidence of the despoiler's body, and, lying by the corpse of a fallen lord, a severely crippled scout, unconscious from blood loss. His tags read "Caddius".
i think what would have helped me in the beginning would be some schematic/tactical drawings...like you get with a tactical planning for a soccer game...you know the ones with big arrows and such things^^
but i like how you hinted the drama inbetween the statistics... and the last paragraph was specially nice too...sort of drama that opens up a possible sequel^^
Well vik, next game I play at home I'll take pics of and add arrows and such to it ^^
and yes, I think I'll do the (very) short story finisher thing on the end of my battle reports, especially on the games I have against chaos/my regular gaming partner in particlar. ATM my life's all coursework, coursework, coursework, but I think in a month or so (between revising) I might manage a few games ^^
finally you uploaded them all to dakka... about bloody time mate!!! not kidding here^^...because lets face it ... i already tried to look thorugh them and had to look back ages of banter to see your picasa account not really something i want to do too often^^
Aye, haven't really been too into 40k of late because of exams etc., but they'll all be over by the end of July and I'll have 8 weeks of hobby-time free Hopefully I might get some other stuff done to appease you before then ^^
It kind of started as an all-in-one thing with my army background and then some accompanying pictures, which then turned it to a kind-of blog about my army with a short story going, then I decided to split off the story into it's own article and never really moved the blog part... plus I don't think it really classes as a blog with a grand total of two updates
So there haven't been any posts on here for quite some time, mostly because I really haven't done much. well, that's changed after I found an old unassembled chaplain biker I never got round to doing anything with. I've started building a kind of space marine trike, with the regular bike but a tracked section as a back half. Now, I was wondering what could go in the tracked section. I'm not going for rules or fluff, but mostly just which would be more awesome, and my favourite two ideas are:
the chaplain in a kind of throne, or the chaplain operating a turret (maybe a heavy bolter)
I'm leaning towards the throne idea because I think it'd look cooler, but how to model the throne and his legs will be... interesting...
It's more of a: http://thekneeslider.com/images/kettenkradforsale2.jpg obviously more space marine-y (bigger, armoured, chunkier) and the bike part stops just before the back wheel, not just after the front, but that's generally what it's like. a space marine bike with a sidecar would be the attack bike:
after a few minutes of messing around with turret setups and different guns, I can't make it happen without taking it all apart again, so I've just given the chaplain a plasma pistol and put the bolters on the bike's handlebars and made the chaplain stand up.
in the grim, dark future of the 41st millenium, space marines arses need padding during their ongoing struggle against the foes of humanity?
I dunno, it's warhammer logic
anyway, I've made my chaplain be stood on the back, which saves me the bother of making a throne and cutting up his legs and also makes me able to use him as a foot slogging chaplain- I'll stick some pics up once it's sprayed, dry and whenever I can get the camera ^^
Do I owe you other pics? I'll take 'em when I take some of the chaplain
I've got him up to TT standards, but the trike... it lacks detail, looks a bit flat, but I don't know how to make it more colourful (the raven guard bike paint scheme is basically just entirely black apart from the actual marine, who is only mostly black.)
i would add red whenever possible... the trimmings on the fenders and such things... and if all else fails then go gold...and maybe a banner at the back could help make it look less boring?
though I'm not sure where I could add it- the marine can't be because only the third company wear red shoulder pads, the bike itself doesn't really have many bits to paint differently and the rear section of the trike is in a similar situation... hmm...
same with gold- only the 2nd company wear gold I might see about cutting the banner off my biker captain and sticking it on there... (which also has hints of red)
so I had a huge room-clean today, so no further work on the chaplain triker, but there isn't much to be done to add a little extra colour (just painting the banner really)
clean room = workspace probably has widened... ergo...get on with your work!!! tstststs... as if i have to be there to get you painting...*shakes head*
well ATM the lack of updates is understandable seeing as there hasn't been anything to update on
though I just found out I'm going round my grandparent's house tomorrow, then off to the hairdressers, so if it's light when I get back, I'll take some pics
So I tried something different with the banner which didn't go great, so I didn't glue it on (probably gonna stick him in my all-too-big WIP pile of models). As you may be able to tell, I didn't do any of the normal things like washing and highlighting (especially on the head) because I wasn't really in the mood today and I decided if I didn't take pictures now, I'd keep putting it off:
if that is your reaction to some days offline for me^^ then i gladly switch off the PC from time to time
the idea to use a tracksection from orks...i think you described it to us earlier... but seeing it now is really making me now undersatnd it in the fullness... good idea! looks convincing to me!...plasma effect looks quite decent, the captains powersword looks promising... needs justa bit of detail still for that "spark" to tell it is switched on
tho one major nitpick i have... your white needs to get way thinner... the captains bike looks nasty with that gobbed on white...if you know what i mean...
Yeah, I know what you mean- I painted the captain's white months ago- you may be able to see the white on the chaplain and the space marine driver is less thick
obviously the white chestplate needs tidying up around the edges, but it's less gloopy now. Looking at the pics, it looks almost grey, though it's much brighter in person ^^ well, those were the best quality pics I could manage, even right next to a window as they were...
Sorry I've kinda dropped off the face of the earth for the past few weeks, I've been settling in to life at 6th form and rekindled my love for a couple of xbox games
Wargaming-wise, I've not really done anything since the last update, though I am in the process of getting back into lord of the rings after a 3-year hiatus Mostly just plans ATM (plans for a board and an army list), but I've started to re-paint a bunch of old rangers and bought a few dwarves (painted a couple)
As-is, the plans for the board are:
6ft x 4ft
stone-y terrain, patches of grass
last two or three feet is a large valley leading to a large dwarven gate, with narrow areas halfway up for archers to stand.
The army list is very ranger and bow-based:
Elladan and Elrohir
Halbarad
6 rangers of the North
8 dwarf rangers
8 rangers of Arnor
Then I went with the more heavy stuff:
1 Dwarven ballista
2 vault warden teams
King's champion
The board and army is going to be a project between me and my friend (I think he's andyroo9000 on here), with his side bringing much more heavy infantry (mostly iron guard) to hold the valley Thermopylae style.
I'm not sure how into Lord of the Rings you are, but you could at least give tips on the board and painting (when I get started) ^^
well, rangers because I love the models and background, dwarves because I can't really hold a valley with light infantry and andyroo's running dwarves and elves because Elladan and Elrohir both fight with the rangers and the ranger's heroes are fairly low-powered.
so... where is the money from now? i thought you had a clever decades worth a plan to build up your DKOK and SM armies??? beside... you still have some green hides as well...
pretty good, I'd say ^^
four B's, two equivalent B's, 2 C's also, nearly done the second iron shield of the vault warden teams (only one more after that to do)
So, I've spent today and yesterday at my LGS, having played 6 games and painted five more models (Boromir I had kicking around, the last vault warden and three rangers), plus I've ordered Elladan and Elrohir (which should arrive next week).
Next time I play a game not in store, I'll try and take some pics and make a battle report (even if you don't know the rules, it's fairly easy to understand)
the games didn't go great, though that was expected- I hadn't played in three years, the rules have changed quite a bit and I went with a fun army while my opponent went with a competitive one.
out of the 6 games, I lost four, won one and lost the last one (though that one was a three-way fight and the other two decided to gang up on me)
on the plus side, two of the four lost games were very close and technically in rules terms, I drew three, lost two and won one seeing as we were playing objective-based missions which I succeeded in, but also got wiped out doing it.
I had quite a patchy theme when it came to luck though- every other game, I failed priority (the roll to see who moves first) 90% of the time, then the next game, win 90% of them.
I also had 5 rangers (light infantry) completely wipe out 8 uruk-hai and a captain in combat, losing one man, and losing seven of my best men in one round of combat I should have easily won
my best model though was a lone shield-bearer (the front man of a vault warden team), who held off six uruk-hai and a troll for six turns straight, giving his fellows time to escape. unfortunately, he was brought down in the last turn when a second troll and a captain joined in :(
I agree, the two right rangers were WIP when I decided not to put off pics any longer ^^
Basically they're all I have of the army so far (at least built and painted)- hopefully the whole thing will be done by the end of january (time after christmas to paint stuff and buy left over guys)
though yes, I am quite pleased with my dwarves- they're hell to basecoat though- the finecast makes the paint act like watercolour, and with all that chainmail, it just seeps into the links- each guy took about three thin layers
I also bought a third vault warden team over the weekend, though it's still sitting in it's blister until I get round to finding my clippers which I seem to have misplaced
it isn´t really funny but most sentences of that kind start with that phrase... but i litterally lost count on how long and how often i had to search frantically for the glue cap..or the file i just used or the knife... hell everything.... thus i have most tools at least twice...
So, after about a dozen different alterations to my army list, I think I've finally got one I'm happy with:
Spoiler:
Warband 1:
King's Champion
3 Vault warden teams
Dwarf Ballista
Warband 2:
Elladan and Elrohir (two elven bows, two elf cloaks)
10 Blackroot Vale Archers
Warband 3:
Halbarad
6 Rangers of the North (3 spears)
3 Warriors of Arnor
Considering this army combined with my ally's consist of around 60 models and the opposing army consists of 100, it's gonna be interesting though the army's gonna be a while coming (need about £90 to buy the rest of them)
It was bright when I got home, and a deal's a deal:
Spoiler:
Elladan:
Elladan and Co.:
My painted models so far (yes, one of the shields broke off):
I kind of wanted to make him seperate from the rank and file rangers but to still fit in, so I still went with the green cloaks and natural colours for the tunics, boots, bracers (browns, blacks, greys) of the rangers, but to stand out, seeing as he's pretty much a prince, I gave his cloak some lining, being bright to stand out, but still kind of natural. It's brighter in person than on the camera, though ^^
It's brighter in person than on the camera, though
hmmm wondered about that... rather dark it seemed... but i take your word for it...
looks like a clean paintjob...but a bit ...hmmm... boring? you could add a bt of gold here and there.. possibly at the swords? and the belt? and something frilly on his crown too?
Basing's probably going to be the same as the vault warden teams- stony with a few patches of grass.
I'll see about adding some gold, but they are surprisingly plain models in that respect- even the games workshop model doesn't have much to break up the cloak/tunic:
ah... i see.... puristic minis then... hmmm... then you have to add sme highlights then... i know, this is a bit tough....but i think the mini benefits from that then!
well, I'm more likely of painting for a few minutes, then wander off, get hungry etc. and not get back to it, whereas in the store I kind of have to paint
Automatically Appended Next Post: also, edited the article to be the actual blog with pictures ^^
at first i thought you described the store way^^ lol... i can´t leave the paintpots open or the brushes unattended... god knows the air would dry it all out... and then...where would i stand then...ha! wandering off... er... i got kids and a wife if i need to be dragged of my hobby^^
My store's fairly good when it comes to unattended stuff- nothing ever goes missing and even if it's been unattended for an hour, people will still ask whose it is and if they can move it.
tht´s not what i meant... if i would wander off and forget... well lets put it this way... i have one day found an open pot of black paint... and the last time i painted was probably two days prior...
ah, I'm quite good when it comes to that- well, in store I'd have all the paints right in front of me, and I'd pack up to go home, so even if I didn't notice, they'd be open for about 2-3 hours at the absolute most
at home, because I keep going back to it, I tend to leave them open ^^
I'm going to have a game tomorrow at school, but I don't think my mum would be supportive to me bringing her expensive camera into school, so battle report will have to wait until I have a game at home ^^
neat looking,...due to the dark lighting situation not really much to be seen tho...
but the tag team poses of the heros looks good
and while at the GW shop i watched and overheard some of a game of LotR and that ther rules are...for every twelve fighters you need one hero? did i get that right´? so this is rather a skirmish game then... no big armies will happen then? or big armies= many heros ?
Yup, since war of the ring was released, this version is sometimes called skirmish- and yes, for every 12 models, you have to take a hero.
Personally I think it'd make more sense for every 18-24 or so- some horde armies end up paying the same amount of points on 12 men as they do for a basic hero.
Big games tend to last quite a while- normal game sizes are 500pts, which usually takes an hour or two- I'm building a 750pt list to ally with another 750pt list to have a 1500 point game, and that's going to take a whole day once finished
also, is it just me or does the lining of the cloaks look brighter than in the other picture?
P.S: the white stuff on their bases are gravel-type stuff (got in a huge bag for a quid- not even 10% empty yet and I've based dozens of models with it) which I've just finished painting a stoney colour and added some patches of grass to (which you can also see in a clear plastic bag in front of the paints (there's a much larger bag full of it with a hole in- that's the overflow bag which it falls into))
to fully understand the basing idea i think you should do a bigger base this way so we can really apreciate the ground !
and well... what mini count would that be then...
and as for the cloaks... well all due to the lightning i guess... what is to be seen in comparrision tho is that you did very neat touchups on the parts where different colors touch...sharp and crisp edges i say... tho you still need to do those highlights to really make them pop^^
Yeah, highlights are still on my to-do list, though I'd like to do them when I have all my cloaks painted, then I can just do one big mix and do them all at once as opposed to trying to replicate the same colour several times ^^
model count varies wildly, but normal troops are usually around 8 points and heroes anywhere between captains (50 or so) and leaders of armies (200 or so, even as far as 300-400), though usually heroes average out at 100 or so.
A typical 500 point list tends to comprise of 3-4 warbands of a dozen men each, though my army list is fairly elite, because although my core warriors are only slightly above average, the majority of my forces are more pricey, specialist models, like the vault warden teams or rangers of the north.
Yeah, highlights are still on my to-do list, though I'd like to do them when I have all my cloaks painted, then I can just do one big mix and do them all at once as opposed to trying to replicate the same colour several times ^^
brilliant idea! why have i never thought about that??? seriously... i am not doing them for i don´t think straight from the pot colors would serve as good highlights... darn... thanks for that obvious hint!
well so LotR seems only at first glanze a cheaper alternative to 40k innit?
It's quite similar in a sense, yes, and certainly cheaper, but there are a few key differences:
basic troops tend to be more difficult to kill (no rolls to hit or armour saves, but mostly you need 5's to wound and there's nothing really which can change that unless you're really strong.
also, shooting in LotR is terrible (as you'll see in my battle report I'm just editing together), though can be useful to thin numbers (I was just really unlucky)- just don't rely on it to take out scores of men at a time.
another big thing for me is that each model is individual- many times have I won and lost games by tying up three models at once with one man and sending others to complete the objective or kill a hero.
another big thing for me is that each model is individual- many times have I won and lost games by tying up three models at once with one man and sending others to complete the objective or kill a hero.
no wonder a game can last quite some hours then...
and if so... will you do something like platoon markings to keep the different platoons recognizable? i bet there is bound to be some rules about losing your hero and stuff...
Well, the warbands system is usually only just to make sure players take enough heroes- only in specific game modes do you have to deploy them together, and even then you can just move them separately afterwards.
there are "courage" tests when your army as a whole is "broken" (under 25% of the models), which is taken for each model every move phase- normal models are Courage 3 or 4. You roll two dice, and if the dice roll plus your model's courage adds up to 10 or more, you're fine. If not, it's removed.
also, a good thing about heroes is that any models within 6" of one can use it's courage if it's higher (so a normally cowardly orc could use a nearby captain's courage to keep him in the battle)
in 40k, because each model has individual heads, torsos, arms, legs and weapons, it's much easier to kitbash and pose- in lord of the rings, the models are already posed, so if you don't like the pose, tough.
Automatically Appended Next Post: spent the past three hours deleting crap photos, rearranging them, renaming them, editing them, rearranging them again, then writing about them, for a LotR battle report:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/wiki/en/LotR_Battle_Report_#Army_Lists
i just had a rather quick leaf through to your battlereport... you did an outstanding job getting all these pictures edited and adding all these arrows for movements... the lil skulls for killed in action are a nice addition... also from what i´ve read a nice dramtic tale!
the table was rather good looking... you definatly took a lot out of these pieces and made an awseome scenario...even tho the final outcome might not be considered good... but i think it was a fun time all around...
Definitely fun, though yes, outcome not so good I spent too many points on the rangers, which ultimately didn't anywhere near make up for their points- I'd have been much better off with some more dwarves
were you free to position your minis before starting? or was the position of the minis due to the scenario? i think a quicker rush out to get them while still charging would have been maybe a good idea too...
I had more elite troops, so bottlenecking the gateway was my best bet- it was mostly just the slow grinding down of my men because I was outnumbered nearly two to one by the time they hit the gates, simply because their archers were far more lucky than mine, and killed eight rangers in those four turns :(
oh yeah, that seems like an all around gakky something... tho... you have to take into account that you made it to a tie... no telliung what would have happened if luck or numbers would have been on your side...
yeah, though I still think my main problems were before the game had started, making an army list.
I'm having a game tomorrow with a similar list, though this time I'm ditching five rangers and adding a ballista (siege weapon), which is tougher and will probably kill a similar number of troops, but is very effective against trolls...
I think half easterlings, half uruks, which are heavy infantry guys, as well as a fair amount of ranged weapons, a couple of annoying heroes and a troll, which, until friday, I have never succeeded in bringing down.
The troll is incredibly troublesome physically too- half my men are too scared to take it on, and even then it wins the combat most of the time and squishes them one by one unless I throw loads of men at it and hope some attacks get through
well... in this the game is true to the books and the movies...
only aragorn, sam, gandalf and merry and pippin tackle the troll in moria in CC...iirc...
Legolas finished it, and gimli basically threw an axe at it and then fought goblins too, though yes, it definitely didn't go down without a fight.
though later, gandalf the white kills a troll, and aragorn tackles (nearly dies, but still doesn't do terribly) the mordor troll chieftan...
so, back to gaming, today I played three games- drew one, lost one and won one.
first game, I had 200pts of dwarves, penned in between two 250pt armies of easterlings.
Needless to say, I got smashed and only survived when the two armies sent half thier men each to fight over the objective (a hill in the middle), meaning one player won, and me and the other drew equal.
second game, I was insanely unlucky- I failed every single roll I took, and got wiped out completely
last game, I was playing the winner of the previous two games, and basically tied up his two characters and most of his men with my dwarves and rangers while elladan and elrohir killed a couple of guys a turn until his army broke and ran away
well, first and second I was just unlucky, last game was more to do with the fact that I chose less light infantry and more armoured shield-carrying dwarves.
then the raven guard blog kinda got added to with orks, guard and grey knights, so it became just generally my 40k blog, which, now I've gotten back into LotR, has become my LotR and 40k blog
LotR-talk (stuff that's relevant to what I'm doing now) starts about 26 pages in, if you want to know
Well, for my 7000th post, I figured I'd better post an update, day or (in this case) night!
Well, I've been busy (by my standards, anyway), and since last time I've painted a grand total of eleven more models! *confetti*
so, here they are:
Spoiler:
A new addition to my vault warden teams:
My King's Champion (with heralds):
one of the pictures had the champion in detail and the heralds blurry, the other had the heralds in detail and the champion blurry.
My five dwarf warriors (converted from dwarf rangers):
I kinda went with this because of two things- one, I don't like the style of the regular dwarf warriors, and two, it sort of works to form a kind of bridge between the heavily armoured vault wardens and king's champion and the lightly armoured rangers and Elladan/Elrohir.
This amounts to my current dwarf army:
And both my current dwarf and ranger armies:
on saturday I'm hoping to pick up the new hobbit box set, and build and paint that over the coming month or so until I hit christmas money, where I'll buy some more rangers.
what i like is the consitency of the painted models... you planned them well and you stayed true to the scheme you had planned... mind you... that´s not happening often to my own painting attempts
the banners look rather stunning, crisp contrast. and i like them for the scheme even more.
and the converted champion looks cool too... how could he not, double wileding axes... how badass can one small lawnornamental warrior get, heh?
heh, thanks. Don't quite have the money for the hobbit, so I'm getting that for christmas and rangers before then (should pick them up saturday).
and they're not just normal rangers...
they're not even just rangers of the north...
they're RANGERS OF THE NORTH CAVALRY! (No actual models for them, but I'm getting rohan riders:
and mixing them with rangers of the north (mostly heads and arms) to make them. Not because they're any good (too lightly armoured to survive in prolonged close quarter fights, and focus on archery instead, which is kinda wasted when on a horse), but because I like the idea, it'd be kinda unique, and they're the only possible form of cavalry I'm going to get in this army
Viktor von Domm wrote: that idea somehow reminds me of native americans like the sioux... archery on horseback^^
are the LotR models that easy to convert by the way?
Not nearly as easy as 40k is- 90% of lord of the rings models are one or sometimes two parts, while 40k stuff like marines tend to be upwards of 10.
normally it's difficult (especially without GS), and with cloaks like my army it's near suicidal, but rohan guys are relatively light armour, and if I stick to just head and weapon swaps, it shouldn't be too bad.
The main problem is, as always, money. 6 ranger cavalry as I was planning, led by Halbarad, Elladan and Elrohir (all, or at least two of which, also being mounted), would cost me £16 for the rangers and £18 for the horsemen to be converted, another £16 for the footslogging rangers (in case the horses get shot, I have to have models to represent fallen riders), £16 for two Halbarads (again, one foot and one mounted), £8 for a model I'm looking at using for Elrohir on a horse, as well as whatever I find to be Elladan on a horse, and I have to somehow get one extra horse to convert Halbarad to be riding.
so for those 6 rangers and 3 heroes, it'll cost me upwards of £74.
Luckily, that's the majority of my army complete after that, but still...
I *could* trim it down by maybe £10, but if I'm still going to be spending £64 on 9 models, I may as well spend an extra tenner to make it a little better.
I *could* trim it down by maybe £10, but if I'm still going to be spending £64 on 9 models, I may as well spend an extra tenner to make it a little better.
therein lies the wisdom and the path to success^^... don´t go for cheap if you can aim for cool and expensive
I *could* trim it down by maybe £10, but if I'm still going to be spending £64 on 9 models, I may as well spend an extra tenner to make it a little better.
therein lies the wisdom and the path to success^^... don´t go for cheap if you can aim for cool and expensive
Therein also lies the path to an empty wallet
but yes, played a game today, lost by a narrow margin (700 points, I had 90 points left, he had about 150), but I think I got let down by my lack of numbers.
though admittedly, I am building this army with confined fighting in mind, so it's understandable
and empty wallets get filled eventually... it is such a force of nature
yup, but, metaphorically speaking, I've had a bath full of money dripping from a tap, now I've used it all, and now comes the waiting for it to drip enough to bathe in once more
you need to scratchbuild something from junk... the only cheap way to kill time in a creative way!
I'm not the best at scratchbuilding, I find I need something to build off of but I have 4 dwarves to paint until saturday, when I'm picking up my 6 rohan and 3 rangers, which I can then convert into 6 ranger cavalry and paint them, which should take me until the christmas holidays.
also, in the new video for the hobbit, it showed a half-second clip of some dwarves from the battle of five armies:
they look just how I always wanted dwarves to look- angular armour and weapons, very sturdy and tough, not like the current models, where they look round and more just like downscaled, slightly pudgier men.
i only saw a glimpse of that on the telly today... i have to hope for a second chance... dunno when i will be able to see that movie in a theatre tho...
Viktor von Domm wrote: i only saw a glimpse of that on the telly today... i have to hope for a second chance... dunno when i will be able to see that movie in a theatre tho...
I'm seeing it ASAP, so thursday the 13th, 7:10 I'm also going dressed as a dwarf simply because I can ^^
oh yes we did... well... i guess it still will leave us with plenty of surprises tho...after all jackson is cooking up a three course meal... one small book... so there is bound to be more than just the book contens...
Viktor von Domm wrote: oh yes we did... well... i guess it still will leave us with plenty of surprises tho...after all jackson is cooking up a three course meal... one small book... so there is bound to be more than just the book contens...
well he's mixing in the white council and the necromancer stuff, but I'm sure there'll be other stuff too
also, the cast is amazing!
Benedict Cumberbatch as the Necromancer, Billy Connoly as Dain Ironfoot, Stephen Fry as the Master of Dale...
Viktor von Domm wrote: so i gather the cast is again kept as much british as it could be?
and well... we are in for a treat for the next three years again either way^^
aye to both points ^^
been waiting for these for nearly 10 years, and if they're anywhere near as good as the lord of the rings, I'll be over the moon also, looking at the behind-the-scenes production videos, they're pioneering even more stuff in the film industry than before- just about every film before this was shown at 24 frames per second, this is getting shown at 48! Your TV screen at home is 1080 pixels- this, in cinemas, will be 5000!
I really can't wait for this, it's gonna be the highlight of the year for me... as will the next one... and the next one...
actually the more HD stuff was not taken that well with the audience... some said it looks weird and not what they were used to...i think jackson had to downsize the quality after that a bit... at least that is what i´ve heard...
Viktor von Domm wrote: actually the more HD stuff was not taken that well with the audience... some said it looks weird and not what they were used to...i think jackson had to downsize the quality after that a bit... at least that is what i´ve heard...
Really? Don't quite understand how I would complain about the hobbit being too high definition...
you did the hoods and the hair conversions by white-tac? wow... nice sculpted... very convincing!
and the orseback rangers looks very good too!
the clothes and armor of the rangers look very good... the pics look better because of better lighting... one thing tho... i think the skin looks like it could do with a bit more definition...specially the unhooded fella.... his face looks a bit bland...
couldn´t be here earlier... worklife and homework kept me from being on time with my dakka schedule...
Viktor von Domm wrote: one thing tho... i think the skin looks like it could do with a bit more definition...specially the unhooded fella.... his face looks a bit bland...
yeah, I had the same thing with the same head on the regular ranger, it doesn't work as well with washes as the others... I'm gonna try and get those 3 horsemen and the 4 remaining dwarves painted, and the other 3 horsemen converted and painted, before christmas, then I'm gonna go back and do finishing touches and highlights and whatnot.
also, going to see the hobbit tomorrow, going dressed as a dwarf (because why not)
Hey, just got back from the Hobbit, great film, everything I hoped for (and more)! didn't mind at all about the ramped up detail, and though the 3D didn't really add much, it certainly wasn't a negative either. I posted a short review over in the OT forum, so I thought I'd post a link: http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/494533.page
well... as i said... i will get to that movie eventually... as if i would have a live without that movie ever... it is probably one of those inevitable things^^
Viktor von Domm wrote: well... as i said... i will get to that movie eventually... as if i would have a live without that movie ever... it is probably one of those inevitable things^^
As I said, it's a great film- better than the Fellowship IMO, though I'm a sucker for camaraderie, comedy and dwarves, so this was an unfair fight to begin with without giving away spoilers, I loved it to pieces, the characters were much more likable than in LotR thus far- Fili/Kili for their loyalty, Thorin for his strong leadership, Balin and Bofur for their kindness, Bilbo for his hobbitty courage and mannerisms, Radagast for his oddities, Bombur for his comic relief, Ori for his politeness...
it's just an overload of awesome characters
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