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Post by: Azazelx
I'm in no rush right now. My 40k playing is not ...especially active right now, and my DeadZone stuff may or may not come in this month before my break from work. (my money is on not). Pens should be here in a week or so now.
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Post by: Yonan
I'll likely be getting them from the same place, not showing up locally sadly. Though chances are they'll be cheaper from the UK anyway, as you know -_-
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Post by: DaveC
Project Update #76: Pallet in US customs
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We've just had confirmation from Wayland Games that the final pallet for North America has arrived and is currently in US customs.
We're not sure how long it will take to clear customs or how long it will take to get your goods to you but we will let you know as soon as we have any more news.
Cheers 
Wayne and Colin.
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Post by: Snrub
For you Yanks.
Update #77
Sep 12 2014
US goods cleared
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Just a quick update to let you know the latest re: N.American deliveries. This from Wayland Games:
"The goods are all cleared and will be delivered to the US Fulfilment centre today or tomorrow at the latest. I'm now waiting to get an idea of when the individual parcels can be shipped."
Cheers
Wayne and Colin.
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Post by: Yonan
They've been very good with communication which always helps when things don't go according to plan. Still really happy with how these guys handled this KS, though hopefully you get your stuff before Fantasy KS ends. Looks like you will have a few days to spare, just.
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Post by: SavageRobby
Anyone have any actual idea of when these will be delivered to US folks? Last update was pretty damn vague, and nothing in the last four days. You'd think in four days the shipping experts would have at least the slightest "idea of when the individual parcels can be shipped".
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Post by: GrimDork
I'm assuming if it got to their distribution center by Fri/sat, they'll go out starting today and should be mostly done by the weekend. Dunno. Maybe I'm too optimistic.
Really would like to see it before fantasy closes... money is tightand iI kind of need convincing to stick around.
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Post by: Azazelx
They really should have waited until the products were in everyone's hands before rushing out with the new one. These guys are pretty nice/cool/etc, but starting a new KS the second their previous one ends has turned out to be not the very best choice. Kind of like MYTH. Oh wait,. they still haven't shipped the first one.
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Post by: GrimDork
Things were meant to time out a lot better, Wayland sprung a surprise fudgeup on them or they'd have been in plenty of time.
But yeah.
In the future waiting another week or two would have been the smart play.
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Post by: RiTides
I'm really looking forward to getting this... can't be long now!
But yeah, I definitely didn't consider the new campaign, since I've never had card terrain before and need to see how I like it before knowing if I want more of that type.
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Post by: Yonan
At the start of shipping, I was a little miffed they shipped the local stuff first (iirc). That may bite them in the ass now. That said, pledging $1 just to get in on the pledge manager is probably still a workable option so you can add in on the pldege manager if you decide you like it when you get it. I have the card stuff and it's really very good despite not previously being a card fan so I'm definitely staying in for this. With the superglue edging trick it seems much more durable than previous card stuff I've seen which was my main concern. Much easier to assemble and pull apart than Deadzone too ; p
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Post by: SavageRobby
Wayland's latest:
"Processing means that your reward is in the US and is being broken down from the large pallets it crossed the ocean on into smaller groups to then be sent throughout North America. Our latest information is that North American backers should receive a weighty boxes of goodies from the start of next week. "
Don't expect to see the SciFi stuff before the Fantasy kickstarter ends. Given Wayland's reliability, I'm not planning to see it in September at all.
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Post by: Snrub
Why are you being such a sour puss Rob?
Shipping has been going very well I thought. Barring the one hiccup.
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Post by: Luide
 GrimDork wrote:Things were meant to time out a lot better, Wayland sprung a surprise fudgeup on them or they'd have been in plenty of time.
Wayland screwup on the paperwork front only added delay of one week.
I wouldn't call a week between receiving package from previous KS to new one ending "plenty of time", would you?
No, if the US backers don't get their kit in time, majority of fault lies with Battle Systems who didn't budget practically any time for possibly delays ( BS mistake).
Truth to be told, it is really strange how some people here seem to think that Wayland is responsible for ALL the delays in this project. whereas no delay in the project happened because of Battle Systems made a mistake somewhere (or didn't have realistic timetable). I mean, project was at least 9 weeks late even in UK and that is if you assume May delivery = delivery on May 31st.
Personally I think some people in here are being very hypocritical (or have some personal vendetta going on), claiming that "Wayland lies" while not saying same thing about Battle Systems KS being delayed. I mean, Battle Systems are the "experts" in cardboard terrain, they should have foreseen all the delays in manufacturing and not overpromised us, right?
TL;dr: Pick one set of standards and apply it equally to all participants. If you raise a huge fuss for Wayland delaying KS shipment for 1 week, there should have been veritable s**tstorm for the 9+ week delays caused by Battle Systems (or them not having realistic time table, whichever you prefer).
Disclaimer: I'm actually happy with the product (and whole KS). Having KS that was only 3 months late was very pleasant surprise: when I pledged, I assumed it would be at 5-6 months late.
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Post by: SavageRobby
BS was upfront about their delay.
Wayland hasn't been. They keep saying "3-5 more days", "only a few more days" - until pressed, or you do the actual math and realize that simply isn't true.
The paperwork cost an extra week.
Its been at the fulfillment center for 5 days, is only now being processed. And processed doesn't mean shipped, to be clear.
Earliest packages (according to Wayland) are next week. Earliest.
That's well over two weeks delay from the latest date Wayland initially supplied to BS (Sept 8th) for the shipping "expert" - and should insure that no one in the US gets their stuff before the Fantasy kickstarter ends. That's a major fubar.
If they had simply said, "you know, we don't know how long this will take, we're hoping X time but it really could be Y time, or more" that might be one thing. But instead they keep blowing smoke and being wrong ... and then doing it again.
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Post by: GrimDork
Yeah I'm gonna drop to a dollar I kind of need to anyway. I get and love my goods I'll see what I can come up with on backer it.
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Post by: Azazelx
GrimDork wrote:Things were meant to time out a lot better, Wayland sprung a surprise fudgeup on them or they'd have been in plenty of time.
But yeah.
In the future waiting another week or two would have been the smart play.
Point being is they jumped the moment they thought they had the opportunity rather than waiting to make sure gak was arriving. So yeah, waiting an extra week or two would probably have gained them a lot more in the long run.
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Post by: GrimDork
Things were going well and they had no real reason to expect the delay. Overconfidence maybe. I don't mind getting my stuff a week late, not really, but it's an untested product for me so I'm gonna step back on the other KS and up on the pledge manager if I can afford to.
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Post by: Dark Severance
To be fair it is not 100% Wayland. I understand that BS was told X was shipping, however as someone who wants to make sure everything goes well... I would of been calling and asked for clarification. Now maybe that communication did happen and then BS reported when things were shipping. However given the excitement it seems more like they got an email everything was ok, so they passed it on to the backers. Although the communication was great... hindsight shows they should of verified everything first or at least found out if "on a plane" meant it was actually on a plane or was just at the airport.
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Post by: Snrub
Update #78
Sep 17 2014
Shipping Dates have arrived!!!
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Hi, all, and thanks for your patience. Here we go….
So after a phone call from Wayland Games less than 30 minutes ago I can happily confirm the following:
The pallets are at the post offices in the USA and are being broken down and made ready for shipping. This means that over today and tomorrow they will be processed and posted. Now we've used the word processed before so lets make sure we have this right…
The first of you should be receiving their boxes of terrain goodness on Friday (that's this Friday 19th) on their doorsteps, porches, postboxes, if they will fit (which I very much doubt they will fit) and generally at your address. Then over the following 7 days the parcels will continue arriving, so Saturday (should you have a Saturday post) and then the following Monday 22nd - Wednesday 24th, with the furthest more coastal areas getting theirs Thursday 25th - Saturday 28th. I suspect there will be the odd few in the furthest reaches that might take a little longer, but nearly all should be in the above timeline.
This is the most up to date news and so finally your goods will arrive. This does mean that some of you will get your terrain before the end of our Fantasy KS and some will not, but hopefully the reports from your local USA friends receiving theirs will give you confidence. The UK, EU and RoW that have already received their items are very happy indeed, and the photos we have had have frankly been amazing…. as just one example see picture below for one of your builds, just 4 Strongholds from an 8 Stronghold pledge…. (plus add-ons ;o)
AWESOME!!! AWESOME!!!
Over and out for now...
...and thanks again for waiting for your terrain, but its coming…  D
Colin & Wayne
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 Yonan wrote:At the start of shipping, I was a little miffed they shipped the local stuff first ( iirc).
They did, and the theory is that, by shipping simplest first, they fix any problems that would make more complicated shipments *more* complicated. Or, at least it empties the warehouse sooner. IIRC, Reaper had this problem as well, but don't remember details. I don't back overseas KS because I know I'll be last and will pay for more shipping on top of it. (Easy to say, of course, when you're in the US.)
Have there been any KS which didn't have problems finishing up their first KS when starting another one? Unfortunately, all the advantages of starting a new KS when the other is fulfilling are measurable (ie. the company keeps everyone working and the KS gets funded), while the disadvantages are not (backers who do not fund because they want the product delivered before pledging). Backers lose out (again), but welcome to KS, eh?
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Post by: Azazelx
GrimDork wrote:Things were going well and they had no real reason to expect the delay. Overconfidence maybe. I don't mind getting my stuff a week late, not really, but it's an untested product for me so I'm gonna step back on the other KS and up on the pledge manager if I can afford to.
That's pretty much my point - and you're a perfect example.
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Yeah, I wasn't actually blaming Wayland here (for a change  ) - just pointing out that I think BS jumped the gun a little in starting their second KS when they thought everything should be fine now, rather than when it was confirmed that US backers were receiving their stuff.
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Post by: Yonan
US backers can pledge $1 though right and crank it up during the pledge manager? Not ideal but workable?
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Post by: GrimDork
Yeah. I think there was something in the last pm about strongholds NY being eligible for the free addons for so long but I can't remember the details
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Post by: Azazelx
Yonan wrote:At the start of shipping, I was a little miffed they shipped the local stuff first ( iirc). That may bite them in the ass now. That said, pledging $1 just to get in on the pledge manager is probably still a workable option so you can add in on the pldege manager if you decide you like it when you get it.
I believe they have said that they won't let $1 pledgers go in on the PM for the dungeon sets, etc - the "core" pledge is the smallest they're allowing to upgrade. Unless they've changed their mind since. I haven't had the time to look over my sci-fi stuff yet, so I won't be going in on the fantasy one if they won't allow a $1 pledge to upgrade later.
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Post by: Yonan
Damn. If they stick to that they're pretty silly given the shipping delays stopping people from wanting to check the quality of their previous purchase before they risk forking out another substantial wad of cash.
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Post by: GrimDork
Huh thanks Azazelx for pointing that out, I'll go ask over on the comments, and if true I guess I won't waste my nearly two dollar bill on their "thanks" at this point.
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@Azazelx well I just asked in the comments and Colin, after checking with Wayne, seemed to think that if you pledge for the pound your info goes to backerkit and then you can still pledge for whatever.
So I guess I'll remain slightly optimistic of finding a couple of hundred dollar bills laying around and then not ferreting them away for winter funds.
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Post by: Azazelx
Sounds good. They may have reconsidered on their initial plan after the US shipping delays kicked in.
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Post by: GrimDork
Well, you have to pledge for a dungeon set to be eligible to add anything else on, no cherry picking the Stargate add on, however that's fair as its the same for everyone pleading *now* too.
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Post by: Shadow Captain Edithae
Is all their stuff the snap-fit card terrain, or are they doing traditional plastic terrain kits too?
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Post by: GrimDork
It's not really snap-fit so much as push/tension fit. So far as I can tell. Others with their sets can better clarify.
So far the only plastic are the clips. Everything else is card. Before this they did paper terrain you could print out yourself.
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Post by: Shadow Captain Edithae
GrimDork wrote:It's not really snap-fit so much as push/tension fit. So far as I can tell. Others with their sets can better clarify.
So far the only plastic are the clips. Everything else is card. Before this they did paper terrain you could print out yourself.
Yeah by snap fit I meant the clips.
Was just wondering. I saw their Stargate themed SciFi / Fantasy board set up on Beasts of War ( IIRC) and thought it was actual plastic terrain. The detail is that good. Pretty damn good for printed card.
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Post by: GrimDork
Yeah. The card looks suitably thick and the surface is supposed to be at least a little water resistant. If you pen the edges of the terrain to color match the printed sides, then brush glue onto the components that are most used, it should hold up for a good long time and look great. The glue doesn't hold anything, it's just for the edges of parts that tend to get swapped or changed, hardens it up so it doesn't fray at the edges. There's a video.
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Post by: Shadow Captain Edithae
pva glue?
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Post by: GrimDork
Superglue, the brush on kind. It soaks in and hardens it to the point that it may as well be plastic. Just for certain corners/joins that get changed a lot. Some of the tables and stasis chambers have multiple skins you can flip it over like battle damage or whatever, and switching the parts a bunch might lead to eventual fraying.
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Post by: RiTides
GrimDork wrote:Yeah. The card looks suitably thick and the surface is supposed to be at least a little water resistant. If you pen the edges of the terrain to color match the printed sides, then brush glue onto the components that are most used, it should hold up for a good long time and look great. The glue doesn't hold anything, it's just for the edges of parts that tend to get swapped or changed, hardens it up so it doesn't fray at the edges. There's a video.
So the order is, pen then glue? They have a lot of tutorial videos but I really just want the basics! I feel like they posted up a 7 or 8 minute "basics" one at some point, but I've misplaced it now.
Glad someone in the US received theirs, hoping mine shows up this week!
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Post by: SavageRobby
Yes - ALWAYS edge with the marker before gluing. Cardstock terrain 101. Otherwise you'll be trying to edge over the glue ... and that doesn't work so well.
Glad to see people are getting theres. Bummed I didn't before the Fantasy project ended. I really wish Wayland had their gak together.
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Post by: Snrub
Update #79
Sep 21 2014
The first Parcels arrive for the USA...
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Hi to all,
The first confirmed parcels have arrived today in the US with one of our backers letting us know in the comments section. We suspect that some parcels arrived yesterday and some more today for sure, but only a very small percentage of backers actually track the comments regularly especially this far after the KS has ended and even less comment, so we would not have heard. The first we heard was with the comment made by Michael Derrig
Here is what he had to say…
I will say the pictures do not do it justice. The print really does pop, I went through the sheets about 10 times before I started to punch them out... and that was just for the add-on sheets. I haven't touched the boxes yet. I figured I would practice a little with some of the add-ons to get the hang of it, and then move on to the bigger projects. I will definitely be re-watching the videos again to get some more tips on assembly, as it does take a little finesse (especially with the smaller pieces, I smooshed some of the cardboard joints). Like many have said, it just takes a some getting used too, and then it becomes 2nd nature. I am very happy with the quality, and I am glad I backed the fantasy. It will be really awesome to match up the two sets (via a star gate) Guess I will be heading out to a few stores this afternoon, to look for storage solutions
Hopefully the rest is coming soon, if not already. If you have received your set by all means come and share the good news with us )
So with sets arriving (and arrived) we leave you with a reminder of what's to come and the best way to approach your first builds.
http://youtu.be/CW_5UCpNOt8
All of the instruction videos are on our website: http://www.battlesystems.co.uk/tutorials.html or on our Youtube channel: http://www.youtube.com/battlesystems
So make sure you follow the instructions and join the rest of the world in 3D terrain games )
Over & Out for now (we will continue to update here as needed)
Colin & Wayne
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Post by: GrimDork
Has anyone else found the Dolphin 'easter egg'?
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Post by: Snrub
The what?
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Post by: GrimDork
Look for the dolphin on your crate 4 from the room items sheet. Ooops I'm sorry crate 3 I think. one of the short little pieces, on the back of it there's a dolphin
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Post by: RiTides
Received my Hulk set today (in Maryland)!
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Post by: Yonan
Finally, grats!
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Post by: GrimDork
Woowoo!
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Post by: MasterSlowPoke
I recieved a notice saying that my postman is too lazy to drag the box up to the third floor.
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Post by: RiTides
To be fair, it's a heavy box, and I just got one set 
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Post by: Yonan
4 sets plus addons, it was left at the main depot here too, not even the post office. Was 18kgs iirc. Small package, very heavy haha.
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Post by: Snrub
GrimDork wrote:Look for the dolphin on your crate 4 from the room items sheet. Ooops I'm sorry crate 3 I think. one of the short little pieces, on the back of it there's a dolphin
Oh yeah the little dolphin. I wondered about that.
Yonan wrote:4 sets plus addons, it was left at the main depot here too, not even the post office. Was 18kgs iirc. Small package, very heavy haha.
18? 
How much gak did you order?
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Post by: Yonan
The stuff was compact and really damn heavy hahaha. Each stronghold (smaller than a land raider box I think) was 4kg inc stretch freebies iirc plus a couple addons on top at 2kg I guess because reasons ; p I wanted a solid tabletop skirmish and RPG setup. I'm pretty sure I got that ; p The 2 fantasy dungeons if added to it for a sci-fi plus catacombs dealio would give an 8x4 multi-layer terrain playfield of orgasmic proportions. Then there's the 12ish Deadzone battlezones which should make a 6x4 iirc to replicate outdoors terrain and... no I didn't go over the top stop looking at me like that! Grim, come paint my Deadzone terrain ; p (/jk, airbrush will save me there thankfully) As a new entrant (2011... still new to me ; p) I needed a terrain solution and these two worked perfectly so I went in big. My main problem is organization now, a good storage system for th large variety of stuff I now have -_-
I really saw immense potential in battle systems terrain, even more than in the DZ Battlezones because of the inherrent 3d nature plus doodads, all pre painted to give a highly immersive tabletop experience. It was worth supporting and it's damn well going to make some excellent gaming I think ; )
That said I've established one little nook as a backdrop to take pics of a couple space marines.... action is NOT my middle name ; p
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Post by: Snrub
Now that's all very well and good Yo.
But the real question. Since you live all the way over in Perth (wasteland that it is) do you have anyone who you can use this terrain with?
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Post by: Yonan
Hahah yeah we actually have a pretty good scene here surprisingly. WestGamer is a pretty damn active forum that helps organise us and our multiple clubs, tournaments and what not. Really easy to find good people to play games with in homes, clubs, stores. Being so far from everyone we need organisation like this ; p
Also screw others, I have solo decks so I can play with myself anyway! I love playing with myself so it's all good. *shifty look*
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Post by: Snrub
Yeah I really need to get back onto WargamerAU and find a Melbourne club. The one GW store that I did go into on the odd occasion has closed down and I don't know where it's moved to.
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Post by: SavageRobby
Finally - joy in Texas. They arrived!
I've been playing around with some random walls, getting the feel for assembly. They're definitely a bit fiddlier than Terraclips, but I really like them so far. And man - there is a lot in just a Hulk, Stronghold and add-ons. I can't imagine what an 8x would look like.
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Post by: Dark Severance
Finally got my 4x Stronghold, 2 Bunkers, Docking Bays and a lot of other misc pieces. It was definitely heavy. Pens also arrived at the same time oddly. Brush glue arrives tomorrow.
Started to take the pieces out, sort them out into groups. Starting with one pile, trimming little pieces off so they slide together properly. Then I'll start penning them. And finally glue the edges before the final assembly.
Just need to get some more storage bins. Still have to finish routing part of the guides for my new gaming table I am making. Soooo much to do and too little time. I need work weeks to be only 4 day weeks now. ^_^
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Post by: judgedoug
Hopefully mine is waiting for me at home!
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Post by: Yonan
Grats for all the arrivals! Really should order those pens and get some storage tubs...
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Update #80
Oct 7 2014
Orders to be delivered
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Hi, guys, the vast majority of our backers have now received their sets. If you haven't received your order, particularly if you are outside of the USA, please email us at info@battlesystems.co.uk with the following details:
Your full name
Your shipping address
The email address you used when you backed the KS
Your customer number supplied by Wayland Games.
These details will help us greatly. If you've already emailed us there's no need to email again as your details are already being processed. Also, some backers in the USA will receive their goods this week.
We're sorry for the delay and will do everything we can to get your goodies to you. You can also contact Wayland Games directly at the email address they provide, this may speed the process up a little bit.
Cheers
Wayne and Colin.
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Post by: gunslingerpro
Backer kit for the Fantasy side just started going out.
Got mine
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Post by: GrimDork
Me too, though I think I'll have to leave it at a dollar =/
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Post by: gunslingerpro
Yeah, wasn't able to add any to mine, but mine was in the $250 range already anyway!
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Post by: RiTides
If anyone was in this boat for the scifi kickstarter, I actually have an untouched Hulk plus medbay set that I'm going to be putting on ebay this weekend. If a Dakkanaut wants it, I'll let it go for 50% of what I paid... I paid 90 pounds = $140, and would sell it for $70, plus $5 towards shipping.
PM me if interested, cheers!
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Post by: GrimDork
That is not a bad deal, what's up, get too much or just decide you don't need it/prefer to spend the cash elsewhere?
I would be interested if I weren't spread so thin from holiday purchases. You may want more for shipping though that's liable to be a heavy box
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Yeah, that's why I said "towards" shipping (I'd cover the rest). Not wanting to make this thread about me so that's the last I'll mention it, just wanted to give the folks of Dakka who might have backed and wanted more a chance at it first.
For me, it's more a fact that I drive a long way to game stores to play, and they provide terrain. I had wanted to start building up my own but for now it just makes sense to use the store provided terrain. I'm actually focusing on Dropzone Commander for my own terrain, since the local stores don't currently have much terrain in that smaller scale.
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Yeah I think not playing much is the reason half of mine is sitting in the box. If I have a change of heart I'll let you know but either way good luck with it
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Post by: Panic
yeah,
I passed on this KS :(
It looks so good, Can people post loads of photos of their sets! Links to blogs?
Thinking about buying this when it hits retail.
Panic...
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Post by: Pete Melvin
 Panic wrote:yeah,
I passed on this KS :(
It looks so good, Can people post loads of photos of their sets! Links to blogs?
Thinking about buying this when it hits retail.
Panic...
Don't. I really regretted buying into the KS once it arrived. Its made out to be "pop out and play" and its seriously not. You have to modify practiaclly every damn slot with a knife to get the bits to fit together, and the sad fact is it doesn't look anything like as nice in the flesh (card?) as their pictures did.
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Post by: 12thRonin
Pics?
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Post by: angelofvengeance
Takes some fiddling about but it looks alright in the end. Haven't made much of a dent on mine yet though sadly.
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Post by: RiTides
Yeah, that's where I'm at - I did hear that it was a lot of work/time to get together, and I'm pretty booked up at the moment! Still, seems to provide a ton of cool SciFi wall terrain for the price... that said, I also think they learned that they don't need to make the base out of the same card, and went with a mat for the second campaign so that all of the card can go towards actually making walls/terrain.
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Post by: GrimDork
The fantasy campaign turned out what I'm assuming will be a tighter and stronger product. Their fortress walls, for instance, are superior in many ways to scifi's bunker walls. The fortress can make stand-alone structures whereas the bunker merely dresses the outside of your scifi set-up. If I'm disappointed with anything it's that I got bunker instead of spending that cash towards more addons or what have you.
The rubber mats are also excellent too, if anything like the DZ/MA mats.
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Another update.
Update #81
Jan 27 2015
Web shop and BackerKit
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Web Shop…
Later this week we will be opening up our new webshop from which you'll be able to order the stock from our Sci-fi Kickstarter campaign. This is our surplus stock so we have limited numbers and not everything is available (sorry, no turbines!) but there's lots of good stuff for those who want more goodies If the stock sells well we'll do a new print run for retail. We'll post another update when the webshop goes live
Buy our stuff
BackerKit...
There is still a handful of people who haven't received their terrain because we don't know where they live! Please get in contact to get your goodies. Similarly, if you haven't received your goods yet please email us at info@battlesystems.co.uk and we'll sort it out.
Cheers
Wayne and Colin.
So they're getting rid of surplus? Geddet while et's ' ot!
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Post by: GrimDork
I've still got half of mine left to get primed for use, and I've barely coated any of it with glue either. Add in shipping... and I'll probably be leaving the surplus for other backers.
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Post by: JoshInJapan
I haven't even opened the box. I'm not in the market for more stuff yet.
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Post by: Snrub
Yeah I'm pretty much in the same boat. Haven't got the pens for edging yet, haven't super glued any of it yet, etc etc.
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Post by: gasdg
since i have don't reside inside my sending tackle and also do a postal mail pick up once weekly : and have points with this and then weekend break, it may be 21 days prior to I can unbox as well as stock my stuff.
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Update #82
Jan 31 2015
Webshop is now open
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We're very happy to tell you that the webshop is now open!
Currently, we're selling the surplus Sci-fi terrain only but plenty of you guys have been chomping at the bit to get more of the good stuff. Some of the add-ons are very rare and some are just not available but there's still plenty of goodness to be had. If the surplus stock sells well we'll do a second print run including all add-ons
So if you want to jump in and grab a fistful head on over to:http://shop.battlesystems.co. uk
Cheers
Wayne and Colin.
Previous update
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Post by: Brian2112
So this terrain was a KS only and then that's it? The whole appeal of this type of terrain is that you can buy more and add on. What is the point if it's gone once the KS supply runs out?
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*edit to reduce snark*
Currently, we're selling the surplus Sci-fi terrain only but plenty of you guys have been chomping at the bit to get more of the good stuff. Some of the add-ons are very rare and some are just not available but there's still plenty of goodness to be had. If the surplus stock sells well we'll do a second print run including all add-ons
My emphasis. They always *wanted* to make more of it and possibly have it as a regular thing they sell, but you never know what's going to happen when you run a project like this. If they rapidly sell out of their backstock and there's still interest, they'll make more but for it to be economical they have to put in a relatively large order so they have to know they can move it once it's paid for.
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Post by: Hydrapup
Hi has anyone figured out available colour matches for penning I was searching for the ones in there tutorial but having some difficulty sourcing them.. I'm in the UK and any help would be greatly appreciated
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2112 wrote:So this terrain was a KS only and then that's it? The whole appeal of this type of terrain is that you can buy more and add on. What is the point if it's gone once the KS supply runs out?
Do not threat my friend fom my understanding they are restocking in June or July (Not sure exactly but they are restocking)
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Post by: ced1106
 Brian2112 wrote:So this terrain was a KS only and then that's it? The whole appeal of this type of terrain is that you can buy more and add on. What is the point if it's gone once the KS supply runs out?
Late reply, but something KS *doesn't* do well is tell you how many units you will sell retail. In fact, KS does *nothing* to help a creator enter the retail-distribution chain. I know of at least one creator (some sort of dragon-themed products) who went bankrupt because he *did* create product for retail, and mis-estimated how many units he should have made. Many projects *do* have a high initial overhead, such as miniatures molds, and KS is useful to get past this obstacle. But it's not a cure-all, and doesn't help for items which don't have this overhead (eg. handmade items made one at a time). I'm guessing that since BS have the die cutters and art paid for, that a print run would be less expensive than had they not used KS, but they'd still have a minimum order to make if they wanted to print more units.
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Post by: BlackHawk101
Well after 3 years waiting for a restock / reprint of the original Battle System Sci-fi Modular Terrain and monitoring the continually changing restocking dates posted on the shop, I like many others has still not been able to purchase addons to go with my base set. Like many others it was a major disappointment to see the announcement that there will never be a reprint https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1621774283/battle-systemstm-sci-fi-modular-terrain/posts/1658127. More frustrating is that there will be no .pdf purchase option for print & play and the Sci-fi II range is not backward compatible with the ramp system removed, connection positions changes and a colour scheme that does not match.
So yes I missed the kick starter and yes I didn't see the chance to buy the surplus stock with only 2 days notice, but I cant be the only one who is frustrated.
My question: did any of the backers (like myself) photograph or scan their sheets before assembly? In particular I've been looking for Sheet 11 wall console & window wall, Sheet 12 Medi-bay and Sheets 17 / 18 Bunkers.
PS: to answer the pen colors question is the attached image.
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Post by: RoninXiC
Well, most of the "old" stuff is not even close to be on par with their most recent stuff. They've learned so much and improved every single Kickstarter.
I can feel their decision to not sell the old stuff anymore. I am pretty sure the next one will be a refresh of the old one. I don't know that, but that's what makes the most sense.
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