Manfred von Drakken wrote: Actually, any unit that has the Demonic special rule gets Unbreakable and Unstable. As even the WoC Daemon Prince has a special rule called 'Daemonic', he now gets Unstable. UNless, of course, you use the Ascendant rules.
The WoC Prince has Daemonic Attacks and Daemonic Invulnerability, but not just Daemonic.
What is Nagashs stat line?
Glotkin seems pretty good for like 200 less points:
Level 4 wizard with 12 wounds (dats alot)
5 attacks + d6 attacks for the arm + thunderstomp + regeneration
Manfred von Drakken wrote: Actually, any unit that has the Demonic special rule gets Unbreakable and Unstable. As even the WoC Daemon Prince has a special rule called 'Daemonic', he now gets Unstable. UNless, of course, you use the Ascendant rules.
The WoC Prince has Daemonic Attacks and Daemonic Invulnerability, but not just Daemonic.
Don't have my book handy, so I'm probably misremembering. Just thought they simply Daemonic. Okay, they don't suck, now.
Suddenly, though, all the Daemon armies are going to have WoC Daemon Princes for their generals.
So can anyone explain why is it that the only way to get wave 1 or 2 is to buy the limited editions? it just seems strange that they would sell completely out of the regular ones and not print more of them and try to force people to buy their "limited edition" books. Has anyone heard anything on when the normal editions will be available again?
So my predictions rules wise - Book 3 combines Empire and Brettonia into a single list (its logical as it seems Book 3 will be Archaon and there isnt much room left for another Chaos list), Book 4 combines the Elves into a common list. Its possible that these two will flip though (I could easily see Archaons forces having their way with the Empire/Bretonnia while the Elves unite to fight back, and then the human survivors come together at the very end to deal the deathblow).
That would make the factions:
Undead
Chaos
Human
Elves
Dwarves
Orcs & Goblins
Ogres
Lizardmen
Skaven
so, 9 ranges for them to keep supporting rather than the current 15 (not 100% those numbers are correct). I cant really find any more possible combinations they could do, theoretically they could fold dwarves into the humans as well, but considering dwarves are a major fantasy archetype I dont see it happening. I could also see Ogres being folded in with the Greenskins, but I sincerely doubt that would happen.
Even with combined armies they haven't removed units from the game. You still need the army books for the rules, and they still have to keep making the models for all the units, even units that are similar (Khemri Skeletons vs Vampire Count Skeletons).
Yeah, but Im imaginimg once whfb 9th hits there wont be a "Beastmen" army book and a "Daemons" army book and a "Warriors of Chaos" any longer, insgead it will be "Legions of Chaos". Also, they havent had to remove units because everything so far has models, though given that in the fluff theyve killed off characters without models, every indication is that by the time they wrap the series up there wont be any more modelless units/characters left.
Beyond that, some pf those kits are "paid for" in the sense that theyve i vested the tons of thousands needed to mane the molds and removing them from production before theyve paid off those costs would be silly.
Do you really think that they would opt for the approach which requires you to buy one big book over the approach which nets you anywhere from three to four books for one army?
Well if they charge 3x the normal army book price (for example) for the big book they may well feel they'll get more cash that having 4 individual books
all (they'll think) they have to do is price it to take account of the folk who don't play all 4
(of course increasing the price will drive some away, but GW never seems to worry about that)
They are still massively underestimating demand though. Nothing that isn't a limited edition should sell out in 2 hours.
Deliberately to boost sales, methinks.
With Nagash they printed and shipped 4x as many copies and those all sold out - there's no way in hell they'd assume that they'd only sell 500 copies of Glotkin after that.
Managed to grab on of the Glotkin Book sets. All my local FLGS were sold out and I got one of the last 2 at GW. From talking to the store owners all of them got more than enough for their pre-orders but their actual stock went out the door in 15 minutes to 2 hours.
Hulksmash wrote: Managed to grab on of the Glotkin Book sets. All my local FLGS were sold out and I got one of the last 2 at GW. From talking to the store owners all of them got more than enough for their pre-orders but their actual stock went out the door in 15 minutes to 2 hours.
As far as I know, in my city (Brisbane) the two GW stores and two FLGS that ordered it only got about 11-13 copies overall, and most of those were from preorders.
chaos0xomega wrote: Yeah, but Im imaginimg once whfb 9th hits there wont be a "Beastmen" army book and a "Daemons" army book and a "Warriors of Chaos" any longer, insgead it will be "Legions of Chaos". Also, they havent had to remove units because everything so far has models, though given that in the fluff theyve killed off characters without models, every indication is that by the time they wrap the series up there wont be any more modelless units/characters left.
Beyond that, some pf those kits are "paid for" in the sense that theyve i vested the tons of thousands needed to mane the molds and removing them from production before theyve paid off those costs would be silly.
Bear in mind that many armies have 'dead' characters in their books, including Marius Leitdorf of the Empire, Azhag the Slaughterer of O&G, and Vlad (though now he's back) and Isabella from VC. I doubt they would remove those characters from future books, especially given that they have models.
Kanluwen wrote: Do you really think that they would opt for the approach which requires you to buy one big book over the approach which nets you anywhere from three to four books for one army?
Yes actually. For the most part Fantasy is selling pretty poorly, GW is actually losing money on it for the most part, consolidating it down allows them to keep the franchise going while dedicated less time, energy, and resources to it. Further, if you actually consider the combinations Ive proposed theyd actually be propping up weaker selling ranges with more successful ones by doing so (TK via VC, Wood Elves via Dark/High Elves, Empire via Brettonia, and Beastmen via Daemons/Warriors) and in effect remove a barrier of entry for a lot of people (if all you want is a couple select units of daemons and you already have a warriors of chaos army, itseasier to get someone to buy thr couple units than it is to get them to buyba full 2500 pts). Beyond that, at present, GW is averaging what, maybe one army book ler year for Fantasy? For the past few years in ge eral Fantasy has received significantly less support than 40k, to the point that some of those books havent been redone in 3 or so editions. GW stands to make a lot more money in Fantasys case pushing a smaller number of books that appeal to a wider audience every 3-5 years than it does a larger number of books that appeal to only a very small audience every 10-15.
Bear in mind that many armies have 'dead' characters in their books, including Marius Leitdorf of the Empire, Azhag the Slaughterer of O&G, and Vlad (though now he's back) and Isabella from VC. I doubt they would remove those characters from future books, especially given that they have models.
They seemed to have no issue removing a couple characters with models from recent 40k releases (granted very old models), I wouldnt be surprised if a few of them end up being written out of the rules going forward.
Every indication is that End Times/the post End Times world is the new face of Fantasy and that it was a decision made to salvage the franchise after years of declining sales, neglect, and mismqnagement.
Kanluwen wrote: Do you really think that they would opt for the approach which requires you to buy one big book over the approach which nets you anywhere from three to four books for one army?
Given GW's manic dash to cut costs, if producing such a book reduces production, shipping and warehouse costs then yes, I expect them to do it as quickly as they can.
Yes actually. For the most part Fantasy is selling pretty poorly, GW is actually losing money on it for the most part, consolidating it down allows them to keep the franchise going while dedicated less time, energy, and resources to it. Further, if you actually consider the combinations Ive proposed theyd actually be propping up weaker selling ranges with more successful ones by doing so (TK via VC, Wood Elves via Dark/High Elves, Empire via Brettonia, and Beastmen via Daemons/Warriors) and in effect remove a barrier of entry for a lot of people (if all you want is a couple select units of daemons and you already have a warriors of chaos army, itseasier to get someone to buy thr couple units than it is to get them to buyba full 2500 pts). Beyond that, at present, GW is averaging what, maybe one army book ler year for Fantasy? For the past few years in ge eral Fantasy has received significantly less support than 40k, to the point that some of those books havent been redone in 3 or so editions. GW stands to make a lot more money in Fantasys case pushing a smaller number of books that appeal to a wider audience every 3-5 years than it does a larger number of books that appeal to only a very small audience every 10-15.
I would disagree that they are losing money on Fantasy. If that were truly the case they would have dropped so many of the products already.
I agree with them promoting sales of the less popular armies with the combination books.
Its clever because people with Vampire counts will buy some tomb kings stuff and then the person may be more inclined to buy a full tomb kings army....a toe in the waters to test it them bam you got 2 armies haha
Not worth it getting into an argument over anything.
I'm just going to say that as of right now, I am enjoying the End Times stuff.
I like seeing the "new" versions of characters.
New Karl Franz is a beast.
I like the new version of Vlad von Carstein and Krell as well, and I really hope that Vlad gets a new model befitting the fact that Vlad is an Elector Count!
Kanluwen wrote: Do you really think that they would opt for the approach which requires you to buy one big book over the approach which nets you anywhere from three to four books for one army?
Yes actually. For the most part Fantasy is selling pretty poorly, GW is actually losing money on it for the most part, consolidating it down allows them to keep the franchise going while dedicated less time, energy, and resources to it. Further, if you actually consider the combinations Ive proposed theyd actually be propping up weaker selling ranges with more successful ones by doing so (TK via VC, Wood Elves via Dark/High Elves, Empire via Brettonia, and Beastmen via Daemons/Warriors) and in effect remove a barrier of entry for a lot of people (if all you want is a couple select units of daemons and you already have a warriors of chaos army, itseasier to get someone to buy thr couple units than it is to get them to buyba full 2500 pts). Beyond that, at present, GW is averaging what, maybe one army book ler year for Fantasy? For the past few years in ge eral Fantasy has received significantly less support than 40k, to the point that some of those books havent been redone in 3 or so editions. GW stands to make a lot more money in Fantasys case pushing a smaller number of books that appeal to a wider audience every 3-5 years than it does a larger number of books that appeal to only a very small audience every 10-15.
Bear in mind that many armies have 'dead' characters in their books, including Marius Leitdorf of the Empire, Azhag the Slaughterer of O&G, and Vlad (though now he's back) and Isabella from VC. I doubt they would remove those characters from future books, especially given that they have models.
They seemed to have no issue removing a couple characters with models from recent 40k releases (granted very old models), I wouldnt be surprised if a few of them end up being written out of the rules going forward.
Every indication is that End Times/the post End Times world is the new face of Fantasy and that it was a decision made to salvage the franchise after years of declining sales, neglect, and mismqnagement.
And the saddest thing about that is that they very likely cannot grasp that the neglect and mismanagement was a causal factor in the declining sales. Still, I suppose throwing a big chunk of the IP in the bin so you can yell "Eermahgerd look it's all new and shiny buy buy buy!" is better than just studiously ignoring the product's existence until it withers away, like they did with Specialist Games.
Across the Sea of Claws they will come, aboard rotten ships on foetid tides.
(thats nurgle and mr spume no doubt)
Three there will be: three armies, three lords, three brothers. Three cities will fall, three heroes will die.
(the Glotkin and more)
Beneath the greatest city of men the Gardener sows the seeds of despair.
(Altdorf but who's the Gardener?)
The twin-tailed comet blazes in the sky. A sign of hope, or a portent of despair, the augurs cannot say.
(I vote hope as GW is not going to can the setting entirely even if it is shaken up)
Twin Tailed Comet probably = Skaven.
The Twin Tailed Comet is the sign of Sigmar, and the Empire..
Yes actually. For the most part Fantasy is selling pretty poorly, GW is actually losing money on it for the most part, consolidating it down allows them to keep the franchise going while dedicated less time, energy, and resources to it. Further, if you actually consider the combinations Ive proposed theyd actually be propping up weaker selling ranges with more successful ones by doing so (TK via VC, Wood Elves via Dark/High Elves, Empire via Brettonia, and Beastmen via Daemons/Warriors) and in effect remove a barrier of entry for a lot of people (if all you want is a couple select units of daemons and you already have a warriors of chaos army, itseasier to get someone to buy thr couple units than it is to get them to buyba full 2500 pts). Beyond that, at present, GW is averaging what, maybe one army book ler year for Fantasy? For the past few years in ge eral Fantasy has received significantly less support than 40k, to the point that some of those books havent been redone in 3 or so editions. GW stands to make a lot more money in Fantasys case pushing a smaller number of books that appeal to a wider audience every 3-5 years than it does a larger number of books that appeal to only a very small audience every 10-15.
I would disagree that they are losing money on Fantasy. If that were truly the case they would have dropped so many of the products already.
I agree with them promoting sales of the less popular armies with the combination books.
Its clever because people with Vampire counts will buy some tomb kings stuff and then the person may be more inclined to buy a full tomb kings army....a toe in the waters to test it them bam you got 2 armies haha
The numbers Ive seen indicate otherwise. Actually, saying Fantasy was unprofitable would be more accurate, as they werent really "losing" money on it, but either way, it is (or was) approaching the point that a decision have to be made, and it seems End Times was that decision. If what Ive heard from Harry, et al. is any indication then this is the intended way forward.
Across the Sea of Claws they will come, aboard rotten ships on foetid tides.
(thats nurgle and mr spume no doubt)
Three there will be: three armies, three lords, three brothers. Three cities will fall, three heroes will die.
(the Glotkin and more)
Beneath the greatest city of men the Gardener sows the seeds of despair.
(Altdorf but who's the Gardener?)
The twin-tailed comet blazes in the sky. A sign of hope, or a portent of despair, the augurs cannot say.
(I vote hope as GW is not going to can the setting entirely even if it is shaken up)
Twin Tailed Comet probably = Skaven.
The Twin Tailed Comet is the sign of Sigmar, and the Empire..
It just occurred to me that the End Times storyline should lead to a new edition of WFRP.
It's been a while since WFRP was relevant and its current edition is probably the weakest ever, a change in the setting could prove to be the revitalising factor it needs.
His Master's Voice wrote: It just occurred to me that the End Times storyline should lead to a new edition of WFRP.
It's been a while since WFRP was relevant and its current edition is probably the weakest ever, a change in the setting could prove to be the revitalising factor it needs.
It is interesting - I loved 2nd ed and it was very heavily tied in to the Storm of Chaos setting - although I preferred that storyline to the current one - even if the new one is well imagined and depicted.
His Master's Voice wrote: It just occurred to me that the End Times storyline should lead to a new edition of WFRP.
It's been a while since WFRP was relevant and its current edition is probably the weakest ever, a change in the setting could prove to be the revitalising factor it needs.
nels1031 wrote: Pretty awesome changes for my Beastmen, although ambush still blows.
Which ones were awesome? May have missed some, but all I see is that we can take marks (meh) and our characters count as chaos champs (so have to accept and issue challenges and gets EotG) except we can't become Daemon Princes, just Spawns. (wtf?)
Did I miss something else? (I likely did, no caffeine yet.)
I caved and actually bought a Gutrot Spume the other day.
I felt it was a bit overpriced, not having purchased a GW figure new off the rack in years, but I was really impressed by his quality. He's probably going to end up matching my Dark Mariners from ShadowSea, but I'm really happy with the crispness of the details and the depth/ mass he takes up on his base.
I also learned that my local store really is cheaper than ordering online, after comparing the prices of what I saw in store vs online.
Their Glottkin was reasonable enough that I may actually consider buying one, even though I don't play WFB, it just looks like a ridiculously fun model to paint (and that's saying something, as I've never been a Nurgle fan).
Can anyone who's built one tell me just how big that thing is? Thanks!
nels1031 wrote: Pretty awesome changes for my Beastmen, although ambush still blows.
Which ones were awesome? May have missed some, but all I see is that we can take marks (meh) and our characters count as chaos champs (so have to accept and issue challenges and gets EotG) except we can't become Daemon Princes, just Spawns. (wtf?)
Did I miss something else? (I likely did, no caffeine yet.)
Nah, you pretty much got it. Those changes were little tweaks that are beneficial, and welcome, but not game breaking.
Maybe awesome without any context was overstating it a bit. I was excited to use trolls and such in my Beasties now. The new combo's and stuff that I'm able to take will really change how I play. That's what I meant as awesome.
Can anyone who's built one tell me just how big that thing is? Thanks!
Red's post will give you a good idea as to how big he is.
One important thing to know is that the two riders are in fact separate...but there are noticeable bits on Ghurk(the big monster) where the other two brothers stand.
nels1031 wrote:Nah, you pretty much got it. Those changes were little tweaks that are beneficial, and welcome, but not game breaking.
Maybe awesome without any context was overstating it a bit. I was excited to use trolls and such in my Beasties now. The new combo's and stuff that I'm able to take will really change how I play. That's what I meant as awesome.
Honestly I was just hoping I was missing something. My poor Beastmen need some love. Still, I agree that getting to fit thing like Dragon Ogres or Trolls into the army could help. As much as I love my Minos, they're desperately in need of a rules overhaul (or really just a price adjustment).
nathan2004 wrote:BM get the Reign of Chaos table which only effects enemies.
I got the Glotkin put together and two layers of base coats and blending on him. Huge model! Even cheating with an army painter primer and lots of layered washes I've got about 8 hours work into him, and a long ways to go with all the detail work, and then onto his two brothers.
The books have really sold great, people are enjoying them. Nagash was slower to start, but as word got out he picked up steam. And I sold a lot of Glotkin this weekend. Happily, I still have both books in stock, and glad I went heavy on ordering them.
Hulksmash wrote: Managed to grab on of the Glotkin Book sets. All my local FLGS were sold out and I got one of the last 2 at GW. From talking to the store owners all of them got more than enough for their pre-orders but their actual stock went out the door in 15 minutes to 2 hours.
As far as I know, in my city (Brisbane) the two GW stores and two FLGS that ordered it only got about 11-13 copies overall, and most of those were from preorders.
My local store only got the 4 they pre-ordered, and allegedly they had to fight to get the 4th of four at that.
Hulksmash wrote: Managed to grab on of the Glotkin Book sets. All my local FLGS were sold out and I got one of the last 2 at GW. From talking to the store owners all of them got more than enough for their pre-orders but their actual stock went out the door in 15 minutes to 2 hours.
As far as I know, in my city (Brisbane) the two GW stores and two FLGS that ordered it only got about 11-13 copies overall, and most of those were from preorders.
My local store only got the 4 they pre-ordered, and allegedly they had to fight to get the 4th of four at that.
Interesting. Non of my local store owners (around 5) had any issues with pre-orders. They all did only get only 2-3 non pre-orders for sale though.
Glotkin is quite the glass beast. I played a 1650 game against him the other day. It was just Glotkin, some plaguebearers and some beasts of Nurgle.
The big downside to the new beasties is that they are a bit squishy. Quite a bit squishy. As in, one round of shooting from a pumped up Khalida archer block and one screaming skull catapult was all it took to kill the thing. We then re-rolled against my Tomb Guard and it thoroughly smashed the entire unit with contemptous ease. So I think protective magic will be an absolute necessity for it going forward.
The Elves get their turn with a twist in the upcoming End Times Series for Warhammer Fantasy. Here's the latest:
End Times Rumors 11-9-2014 (Black Library Weekender)
via Warseer's Darnok:
Now what if I tell you that 1.) the Elves ET book will come with no models alongside it and 2.) there will be two more ET books after it?
Volume III: The Curse of Khaine (Scheduled for this year)
Volume IV: Skaven Book
Volume V: Unknown rumored final volume
The big point of contention out there in rumorland is whether or not End Times: Khaine will come with models, or be a book only release. Based on what we've seen before from the End Times series, Army Bundles to represent the listed battle hosts is a given, and both High Elves and Dark Elves have received substantial new kits in their last updates.
But then again, would a model of Khaine himself count as an "Elf Model"?
Buttlerthepug wrote: Would be very disappointing should they not follow that format of coming out with a new unit, 3 new mounted characters, and a big beastie.
Was really looking forward to seeing some awesome Dark Elf stuff...
If nothing else maybe we'll get some "super" Valkia rules?
I find nurgle stuff ready boring to paint and model. Looking foreword to hopefully new slaanesh and tzeetch stuff in the next books.
Kid_Kyoto wrote: Kind of shocked there aren'y any plastic greater demons coming.
I mean the models are what 15 years old? More? And they're looking pretty pathetic next to all the big beasties out there.
Why release new-old models which people can choose to buy or not buy depending on if they prefer the newer model, when you can produce new models with new rules which nobody has and therefore may feel more compelled to purchase?
GW strategy is low risk, despite the fact their business has been contracting, I doubt they have the balls to redesign an old model, unless there's something in it for them (such as transitioning materials, which, admittedly, could apply in the case of GDs.)
In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if the Glotkin CAD file started life as a new GUO, but someone leant over the designers shoulder and went "No, make it into something different."
The lack of GD is really mind boggling. I'm absolutely certain they would sell extremely well (at least, much better than some of their recent release, like santa logan or the gorka/morkanaut, not to mention the competely unnecessary daemon chariot), since they are iconic to the setting, and they can be used in both fantasy and 40k.
I'm starting to believe than they will never released them in plastic, especially since the glottkin really looks like a GUO, so I doubt they'll make one now.
If the greater demons got larger models that went on one of the newer big bases, it would make people buy the new one. Or have to put their older smaller models on one of the new big bases.
The GD's would need new rules to compensate for bigger models throw.
The other option is, make them muti-kits and have a new named character version of each GD you need to buy the new kit to get.
In all honesty if they did both I would eat that gak right up.
Lockark wrote: If the greater demons got larger models that went on one of the newer big bases, it would make people buy the new one. Or have to put their older smaller models on one of the new big bases.
The GD's would need new rules to compensate for bigger models throw.
The other option is, make them muti-kits and have a new named character version of each GD you need to buy the new kit to get.
In all honesty if they did both I would eat that gak right up.
Well, they just added a 90mm round base to 40K, giving a larger size that is not an oval. They could put a new larger daemon on a 90mm round/100mm square and add parts for the named GDs, and sell quite a few I'd imagine.
Hmmm, We may have hit the end of our three week Tyranid Wave 2 and are headed back to the End Times III. It's said to be focussed on the Elves. To be honest, the holiday season is upon us, so if End Times III is 2-3 weeks like Nagash and Glottkin were, we may be all done with 40K this year.
Hmmm, We may have hit the end of our three week Tyranid Wave 2 and are headed back to the End Times III. It's said to be focussed on the Elves. To be honest, the holiday season is upon us, so if End Times III is 2-3 weeks like Nagash and Glottkin were, we may be all done with 40K this year.
I could see "Shield of Baal II: the box set" getting a december release to milk the holiday. Otherwise, End Times and then likely Hobbit, with 40K coming back for Blood Angels in January.
Really looking forward to the Skaven book. I haven't pre-ordered any of the End Times stuff yet, and I regret it a bit now that you can't get the books any longer...which, by the way, I think is complete and utter bull-$#!t...I will definitely be pre-ordering the Skaven one.
Hmmm, We may have hit the end of our three week Tyranid Wave 2 and are headed back to the End Times III. It's said to be focussed on the Elves. To be honest, the holiday season is upon us, so if End Times III is 2-3 weeks like Nagash and Glottkin were, we may be all done with 40K this year.
I could see "Shield of Baal II: the box set" getting a december release to milk the holiday. Otherwise, End Times and then likely Hobbit, with 40K coming back for Blood Angels in January.
I could see "Shield of Baal" getting a January release actually.
Lots of people give cash as Christmas presents and it would not be a terrible idea to hold it until AFTER Christmas.
Hulksmash wrote: Managed to grab on of the Glotkin Book sets. All my local FLGS were sold out and I got one of the last 2 at GW. From talking to the store owners all of them got more than enough for their pre-orders but their actual stock went out the door in 15 minutes to 2 hours.
As far as I know, in my city (Brisbane) the two GW stores and two FLGS that ordered it only got about 11-13 copies overall, and most of those were from preorders.
My local store only got the 4 they pre-ordered, and allegedly they had to fight to get the 4th of four at that.
Interesting. Non of my local store owners (around 5) had any issues with pre-orders. They all did only get only 2-3 non pre-orders for sale though.
It's entirely possible the store employee was blowing smoke up my ass, i can't rule that out.
That said, this is not the first time they have had issues getting WFB pre-orders. Or 40k now that i think of it... there were problems with eldar and tau books, and tau supplement. *shrug* Dunno. All i know is I already have End Times: Khaine on pre-order.
Fango wrote: Really looking forward to the Skaven book. I haven't pre-ordered any of the End Times stuff yet, and I regret it a bit now that you can't get the books any longer...which, by the way, I think is complete and utter bull-$#!t...I will definitely be pre-ordering the Skaven one.
You don't even understand how excited I am for the Skaven book! Only army I own for fantasy and is bigger than my 40k armies combined which I never play.
I have never preordered any gw product but with the skaven release I'm getting it all...IT AAAALLLLL I SAY!!! I don't care if the models look like crap, the book is garbage or the forces get combined...all I want is moooooaaarrr raaaatttts!!!
Kinda been following End Times despite the local disinterest in it, but has/is there any probable/definite indication that End Times intends to cover all 4 Chaos Gods or just Nurgle? Or am I asking a question only Tzeentch himself can answer for me?
Nurgle stuff that has been released lately has given me inspiration for conversion possibilities and would LOVE if they do the same for the remaining 3 Gods.
CleverAntics wrote: Kinda been following End Times despite the local disinterest in it, but has/is there any probable/definite indication that End Times intends to cover all 4 Chaos Gods or just Nurgle? Or am I asking a question only Tzeentch himself can answer for me?
Nurgle stuff that has been released lately has given me inspiration for conversion possibilities and would LOVE if they do the same for the remaining 3 Gods.
There's been no evidence that any of the other chaos gods will make an appearance (model wise).
Current guesstimates are:
End times III - Khaine (dark elves/high elves) in the coming weeks
End times IV - Skaven (I doubt they will be paired with anyone) they will be released in January probably
End times V - this nobody knows much about either other than it will be a final book and probably will be human forces (empire/brettonia as much as people think its dumb lol)
Other chaos gods might make an appearance in the story part (slaneesh maybe for the elves portion) but doubt you will be getting any other models
Yeah, based on how Crom got rules in the Nagash book, I suspect we'll at least get rules for some of the other characters in the coming books. Since Valkia is supposed to be down in Naggorath, I wouldn't be surprised if she got rules, and so on.
Then we should also get an Archaon book for the true Lord of the End Times. Hopefully...
Still, I agree that getting to fit thing like Dragon Ogres or Trolls into the army could help. As much as I love my Minos, they're desperately in need of a rules overhaul (or really just a price adjustment).
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