Yup, I just got an email from orkwarboss@gwplc.com. I had to run it through whois.net, and then called their customer service just in case.

They left the numbers off of the Limited Edition Ork Warboss books. So they are sending everyone that bought them stickers. This is like driving my new car off the lot with no license plates in my opinion. How is something like this missed? That's a big part of what I paid for.

But what if they send you sticker number 2 when your book was first off the line?

You're getting Limited Edition Errors™
Be thankful you're getting that without having to pay extra for it.

 cfoley wrote:
But what if they send you sticker number 2 when your book was first off the line?

Exactly. Value is pretty much ruined if you are a collector/bibliophile.

It might sound like a broken record, but really the only answer is: GW doing what GW does best.

Pretty bad mistake, but I doubt you mainly bought it for that number.

Having the certificate or marker to verify that it is a limited run, and actually getting the stamp #X/Y is actually a big part of getting the limited edition. It's a pretty big part of collecting in general. I don't think he got it just for the rules.

But this is a pretty big error that is amazing on how it got glossed over. Just finding that and discovering the amount of quality control involved is apparently non-existent can't be very reassuring for the purchaser.

 cfoley wrote:
But what if they send you sticker number 2 when your book was first off the line?

Somehow, I doubt the first book off the press actually gets to be marked number one. The first book picked up by the guy with the roll of stickers gets to be number one, and that assumes the roll he is using starts at one.

Citadel Finenumbers(tm)

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Citadel Finenumbers(tm)

I used to collect Limited Editions like you, but then I took a misding number to the knee.

Yeah.

 thenoobbomb wrote:

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Citadel Finenumbers(tm)

I used to collect Limited Editions like you, but then I took a misding number to the knee.

Yeah.

Exalted!

Hilarious. I am just laughing at the idea of buying the limited edition bs to begin with. GW messed up and anybody that bought that deserves it.

"The way I see it, GW doesn't charge enough for their product as is, so I'm going to spend a ton more money on a more expensive version of the same product."

lol. *golf clap* no sympathy here.

I'm sorry I like Orks and have more disposable income than you?

Maybe you do, maybe yo don't. Its a shame to waste money no matter how much you make. But do what you want man. Keep the economy moving!

Edited by AgeOfEgos

Trying my best mate. Sometimes I miss a button on the olde keyboard. Thanks for the reminder you cunning olde spanker.

It's that kind of slapdash attitude that leads to numbers being missed off books. Tell me, do you work at Games Workshop? I bet you do.

I work for Cyberdyne Systems.

 Chaos Rising wrote:
I honestly can't beleive you care. IT IS JUST A BOOK. My god just be satisfied with what you have. Be thankfull you got the limted edition and dont wine on the internet about nothng! I mean, why did you make this thread? To complain? Dakka isn't for crying about your numbers.


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VanHallan wrote:
Maybe you do, maybe yo don't. Its a shame to waste money no matter how much you make. But do what you want man. Keep the economy moving!

Also, I know it can be hard for you American savages to speak with correct English but please try.

I DO care. I'm not posting this for Toy Soldier Hipsters to get all in a tizzy and get their troll on, but for those people who are collectors. I collect books, limited edition collectors items. I like that kinda stuff.

You should also spellcheck yourself before you wreck yourself, he who throws rocks.

I apologize man, I shouldn't have trolled ya on that first post. We all have our guilty pleasures in life. Didn't mean to be disrespectful.

It's cool, I realize people get worked up about GW. I was there too, I'm past it and only spending money on the things I really want. Hence why I'm a bit taken aback by this. I didn't see anyone else posting about it, and figured others may have preordered it and may not be aware.

This is quite terrible. They should have reprinted the books with the numbers and sent them to you. After all, I'm sure the collectors edition costed more and you shouldn't be just getting a standard codex with a sticker.

Dd you try mailing them back about it? It is quite unfair, no?

Yes, I've emailed and phoned them. There was another release they botched like this too, but I'm ever the optimist

At least they're doing SOMETHING about it instead of saying 'well sorry, we'll get it better next time'

Its a step up from what I expected tbh.

' It might sound like a broken record, but really the only answer is: GW doing what GW does best. '

'Hilarious. I am just laughing at the idea of buying the limited edition bs to begin with. GW messed up and anybody that bought that deserves it.

"The way I see it, GW doesn't charge enough for their product as is, so I'm going to spend a ton more money on a more expensive version of the same product."

lol. *golf clap* no sympathy here. '

adding NOTHING to the discussion at all. Go away.

GW does have stupendous customer service, I give them that. Ever contact PP for anything? So frustrating I stopped collecting and playing Trolls.

 milkboy wrote:
This is quite terrible. They should have reprinted the books with the numbers and sent them to you. After all, I'm sure the collectors edition costed more and you shouldn't be just getting a standard codex with a sticker.

Dd you try mailing them back about it? It is quite unfair, no?

The codex itself has a different cover--for both the Ork Codex and the Ghazghkull supplement.

Just a FYI. It's not the "standard" codex (might as well be, sure).

Dragonzord wrote:
At least they're doing SOMETHING about it instead of saying 'well sorry, we'll get it better next time'

Its a step up from what I expected tbh.

' It might sound like a broken record, but really the only answer is: GW doing what GW does best. '

'Hilarious. I am just laughing at the idea of buying the limited edition bs to begin with. GW messed up and anybody that bought that deserves it.

"The way I see it, GW doesn't charge enough for their product as is, so I'm going to spend a ton more money on a more expensive version of the same product."

lol. *golf clap* no sympathy here. '

adding NOTHING to the discussion at all. Go away.

Added precisely as much as this post. Prolly best just to ignore stuff like that, requoting and being adversarial just tends to derail stuff..

 Kanluwen wrote:

 milkboy wrote:
This is quite terrible. They should have reprinted the books with the numbers and sent them to you. After all, I'm sure the collectors edition costed more and you shouldn't be just getting a standard codex with a sticker.

Dd you try mailing them back about it? It is quite unfair, no?

The codex itself has a different cover--for both the Ork Codex and the Ghazghkull supplement.

Just a FYI. It's not the "standard" codex (might as well be, sure).

Might be offtopic, but even though I have the warboss edition, i find the normal codex's cover to look better. The warboss editions cover looks plain :(

In most collections, flawed items are considered more valuable than perfectly flawed ones. They are rarer and hence more valuable. Examples include:

coins where the casts have variations
coins where an imperfection tells you the mint
coins that have the incorrect obverse

What I'm saying is that the book without the number is the least value.
The book with the number stuck on by the owner is better.
But the book and number owned together but not stuck on is the most valuable combination.

Just to add to the general slapdash nature of this update, I was emailed by GW about this as well.

Only problem is, I cancelled my Warboss edition. I realized I didn't like the covers, and wasn't getting the cards (WD said they were included, GW website said they weren't).

Now, if people who didn't get the limited edition request the sticker (I DID NOT), then there won't be enough stickers for the people who did order them (or maybe, you will get #2001 of a 2000 run edition).

Not only did they forget the stickers, they forgot to whom they sold the limited editions! Somebody needs to whip them grots!

Mod note to the thread: Please, only post if you have something constructive to add. Missing limited edition numbers is a viable topic for discussion. If you're not interested in the LE books or numbering issue, please, simply don't post!

VanHallan wrote:
I apologize man, I shouldn't have trolled ya on that first post. We all have our guilty pleasures in life. Didn't mean to be disrespectful.

Thank you for owning up to this and apologizing, VanHallan, it is much appreciated!

Dragonzord wrote:
At least they're doing SOMETHING about it instead of saying 'well sorry, we'll get it better next time'

 cfoley wrote:
In most collections, flawed items are considered more valuable than perfectly flawed ones. They are rarer and hence more valuable.

Personally speaking, I would agree with this. Obviously, their sending stickers is not an ideal solution (ideally, they would have included numbers in the original shipment). But, they are addressing it, and who knows, it could add value since its a unique occurrence.

As to value, I bought one of the LE SM 'dexes (admittedly, a more popular item) and when I decided to part with it half a year later, it had actually increased in value. So, this is not necessarily a case of people simply paying more for something and throwing money away in the process; it can actually be a decent investment if you ever consider reselling it. Or, if you just enjoy it for it's own sake! That said, I have found the sticker shock to be too much to purchase any other of the LE books since then.

Hilarious! I hope I get a sticker over 2000 to make it worth more.

 Dez wrote:
GW does have stupendous customer service, I give them that. Ever contact PP for anything? So frustrating I stopped collecting and playing Trolls.

I find the exact inverse.

I contact GW over a completely curled sword for my Bretonnia that's in Finecast. I get a return reply of "oh, just hot water it." For the record, it's nearly a perfect circle. So yeah, no.

Privateer Press, on the other hand, has been super easy. I go to their simple web form, type out which parts are missing/damaged, and boom, in my hands 2 weeks later. I've done that for a base, a miscast part, and a missing part. Way easy and no "well have you tried fixing it yourself first?" nonsense.

Finecast.

I also bought the Warboss edition. Am I the only one that sees the uselessness in a sticker to represent the limited aspect? Something that could be peeled off, copied or altered, and then replaced? In effect, it is now the stickers that are a limited edition.

There's a saying in Mantic threads: "Mantic, almost." Are GW trying to steal Mantics crown as king of almost, but not quite getting there? ; p

They made a mistake here and are making attempts to correct it. Of all the faults people have with GW right now, this seems like a really minor gripe especially as they are trying to fix it.

I have a Warboss edition and it really doesn't bother me that much. I paid for a box with cool gubbins in it, not a piece of paper to tell me that im special.

It does seem like an incredibly minor thing to get upset about. The sticker has zero effect on the book being LE or not, all that they would have had is stickers in anyway and it's not like these books have any value as LE items anyway. It doesn't bother me at all and does seem like another thing just to be pointlessly angry about.

$165 for a product and something is not correct. No matter how small or large the error is this isnt right. Before i had the DA book in my hands last year, GW issued FAQs and erratas. Too boot, Dez dosent even have the book yet. Like i said before, return it and buy both books local. Yes i known you like the LE stuff but this is silly. I wouldnt accept this error.

 cfoley wrote:
In most collections, flawed items are considered more valuable than perfectly flawed ones. They are rarer and hence more valuable. Examples include:

coins where the casts have variations
coins where an imperfection tells you the mint
coins that have the incorrect obverse

What I'm saying is that the book without the number is the least value.
The book with the number stuck on by the owner is better.
But the book and number owned together but not stuck on is the most valuable combination.

At first I thought this as well, but then I figured if there was a whole run of GW books with the numbers missing it really wouldn't increase the value.

If the first 20 books had the numbers missing and the next 1980 did have their numbers, then the first 20 might be worth a bit more to a collector. If all 2000 are missing their numbers, I doubt it.

Though you might be right that if you keep the sticker and don't stick it in but a lot of other people either discard the sticker or stick it in, you might have something worth a bit more.

Overall it's a bit disappointing that GW would leave the numbers out, but I'm not sure what the best outcome would be for the collector.

I don't think anyone here appreciates the significance of this. You can take that sticker and stick it on anything.
GW has literally just handed over the power to make anything a limited edition.

Let me fill you in on something else that may or may not be significant.

I spoke to the LGS right when I learned about the Warboss Edition, and they said they MIGHT have access to one or two copies. There are only 5,000 Worldwide according to his rep. There's a bit of a number discrepancy there, I'm not sure if that was a miscommunication or somebody let out some information they shouldn't have. I know it's conspiracy theory, but what if....just what if...the numbers were exaggerated? I'm actually surprised you can still get the Warboss Edition with all the Ork players out there. The numbers are missing off of them? Look at the Void Shield Generator, there were 1,000 of them and they sold out in minutes. Again I'm just playing Devil's Advocate, something to think about. I'm not raging or whining, I'm an actual real live grown up. I'm just befuddled that this could have happened.

I didn't pay just to get a stamped number on the book, like I stated earlier I'm a bit of a bibliophile and a collector and fanatical about Orks. However I feel that leaving the numbering off altogether is a significant detail to leave off. GW are doing something about it, but the damage control at this point is a bit pointless in my opinion. Perhaps they should do a recall like GM, haha

Also, I'd normally get things through the LGS but the last time I ordered a Limited Edition item through the LGS they messed the order up and I didn't get what I wanted so I am extremely leery of making that mistake again.

GorillaWarfare wrote:
I don't think anyone here appreciates the significance of this. You can take that sticker and stick it on anything.
GW has literally just handed over the power to make anything a limited edition.

Mother of God...

GorillaWarfare wrote:
I don't think anyone here appreciates the significance of this. You can take that sticker and stick it on anything.
GW has literally just handed over the power to make anything a limited edition.

Except for the fact that limited edition codex/army books have another cover and all that.

I think what some people are missing is that for collectors, this is a big deal and for GW its a major mistake for something that's supposed to be a collector's edition.

For some it's "Eh, one mistake. No biggie."
For others its just one of many symptoms that shows GW to be a company that has no quality control and just doesn't care.

Micro and macro issues involved.
Me, I'd be pissed.

 thenoobbomb wrote:

GorillaWarfare wrote:
I don't think anyone here appreciates the significance of this. You can take that sticker and stick it on anything.
GW has literally just handed over the power to make anything a limited edition.

Except for the fact that limited edition codex/army books have another cover and all that.

You are not thinking big enough. You can make anything a limited edition. I am trying to point how absurd it is for GW to distribute stickers for this problem.

It really isn't a solution at all. I don't think GW understand what a LE is supposed to be. They know about them because they see other companies selling them, but the underlying concept is a mystery.

GorillaWarfare wrote:

 thenoobbomb wrote:

GorillaWarfare wrote:
I don't think anyone here appreciates the significance of this. You can take that sticker and stick it on anything.
GW has literally just handed over the power to make anything a limited edition.

Except for the fact that limited edition codex/army books have another cover and all that.

You are not thinking big enough. You can make anything a limited edition. I am trying to point how absurd it is for GW to distribute stickers for this problem.

It really isn't a solution at all. I don't think GW understand what a LE is supposed to be. They know about them because they see other companies selling them, but the underlying concept is a mystery.

Can we please get some sort of meme going on here where people take pictures of the limited edition sticker stuck to random stuff like their cars, computers, children, etc.?

Stickers? My Limited edition Tyranid codex had them printed on them. Why would they be giving them stickers. Stickers mean nothing. How does GW know who got what number?

I mean didn't the Limited edition Chaos Space Marine codex, some didn't have any "tags" or "pieces of white paper with a number on it" while some had 2 of them? So there is really nothing really limited then if they just arbitrary throw in numbers.

Number 1 can in fact be 1250, so nothing special, when in fact it would have been. So now all the sticker means is just all the limited editions out there really mean nothing unless the number is printed on them. Wouldn't that be false advertising then? I mean they are selling a product that is really not authentic now.

It's very poor quality control. For a company with so many models and book before, it's really very poor form. It's a big mistake but it was compounded by an equally poor solution.

I should think a reprint with a reissue is the solution. Even if it is a loss, they still owe it to their customers who have purchased it with the actual proper product in mind. If they didn't want 2000 unnumbered copies floating around, they can even do a one for one exchange.

 slowthar wrote:

GorillaWarfare wrote:

 thenoobbomb wrote:

GorillaWarfare wrote:
I don't think anyone here appreciates the significance of this. You can take that sticker and stick it on anything.
GW has literally just handed over the power to make anything a limited edition.

Except for the fact that limited edition codex/army books have another cover and all that.

You are not thinking big enough. You can make anything a limited edition. I am trying to point how absurd it is for GW to distribute stickers for this problem.

It really isn't a solution at all. I don't think GW understand what a LE is supposed to be. They know about them because they see other companies selling them, but the underlying concept is a mystery.

Can we please get some sort of meme going on here where people take pictures of the limited edition sticker stuck to random stuff like their cars, computers, children, etc.?

YES!

 Dez wrote:

 slowthar wrote:

GorillaWarfare wrote:

 thenoobbomb wrote:

GorillaWarfare wrote:
I don't think anyone here appreciates the significance of this. You can take that sticker and stick it on anything.
GW has literally just handed over the power to make anything a limited edition.

Except for the fact that limited edition codex/army books have another cover and all that.

You are not thinking big enough. You can make anything a limited edition. I am trying to point how absurd it is for GW to distribute stickers for this problem.

It really isn't a solution at all. I don't think GW understand what a LE is supposed to be. They know about them because they see other companies selling them, but the underlying concept is a mystery.

Can we please get some sort of meme going on here where people take pictures of the limited edition sticker stuck to random stuff like their cars, computers, children, etc.?

YES!

YES! again. Once we know what the stick is like we can photo edit it into anything.

If/when I get the sticker, I'm going to make a "Limited Edition" Flash Gitz box.

Real limited editions such as short run art prints are hand numbered by the artist to add to their provenance and value.

 Dez wrote:
Let me fill you in on something else that may or may not be significant.

I spoke to the LGS right when I learned about the Warboss Edition, and they said they MIGHT have access to one or two copies. There are only 5,000 Worldwide according to his rep. There's a bit of a number discrepancy there, I'm not sure if that was a miscommunication or somebody let out some information they shouldn't have. I know it's conspiracy theory, but what if....just what if...the numbers were exaggerated? I'm actually surprised you can still get the Warboss Edition with all the Ork players out there. The numbers are missing off of them? Look at the Void Shield Generator, there were 1,000 of them and they sold out in minutes. Again I'm just playing Devil's Advocate, something to think about. I'm not raging or whining, I'm an actual real live grown up. I'm just befuddled that this could have happened.

Interesting point Dez. What IF GW made more than 2k LE ork sets? What type of EPIC screw up would that be? I would like to know how many people on Dakka got the LE version alone.

How about GW didn't make 2,000 of 'em. They instead made 6,000 of them, and didn't want anyone to know? And so they send out random stickers to people. Do you think they are actually going to take the time to figure out who was order #1, #345, #2000? Hah! The amount of time and effort required would be insane.

Da Butcha wrote:
Only problem is, I cancelled my Warboss edition. I realized I didn't like the covers, and wasn't getting the cards (WD said they were included, GW website said they weren't).

No cards. I did a double-take when I saw that in WD, because I'd already pre-ordered the Warboss edition and cards on the info that there weren't cards with the Warboss edition.

I have a genuine question: Why are the numbers so important? Does it increase the value if the number is lower or does it prove that the book is legit?

I just want to add on the value of it... I'm okay with it. I mean, I feel like the normal codices are overpriced, but given that context, the Warboss Edition wasn't so bad. Normal limited edition codices are what, $100? The Warboss edition was $165, but you got *two* limited edition books, plus art cards (which I swear I'm going to frame and put around my work desk), and objective tokens, in a decent box that actually has a magnet in it to help keep it closed. If I bought a limited edition codex and supplement normally, that's $200... without the extras.

This is the ONLY limited edition book I'd even consider, and only because Orks are my top army. I mean, seriously, in a huge way. They got me into the game when I was young, I've played them in 40K, WFB, Epic, BFG, Mordheim, Warmaster, Man'O'War, Blood Bowl, GorkaMorka, even Necromunda when it had rules (sort of). If Orks/Orcs were in a GW game, I was there. My main in WoW is an Orc because of my love for GW Orks/Orcs, and I played Orcs in the Warcraft games because of them. I can't stand playing Space Marine just because it makes the Orks look completely braindead and that offends me. So yeah, I'm an Ork guy. My reputation would take a hit if I didn't have this set.

Also, I was going to buy the Ghaz supplement anyway, this way I got it two weeks early. (That was the thing that drove me to do it. I figured the Ghaz book would have a lot of "must-have" stuff in it, and I'd be spending $100 on the two books anyway, might as well go the distance...)

 TheCustomLime wrote:
I have a genuine question: Why are the numbers so important? Does it increase the value if the number is lower or does it prove that the book is legit?

Bit of both, I think.

Reminds me of when they messed up the Apocalypse LE. I was pleasantly surprised to receive this in the mail:

If we started s thread on how many times GW has screwed up a product we would crash Dakka and perhaps the WWW.

The problem here is GW likes to bring up the word "quality" a lot especially in marketing and then proceed to make mistakes of a somewhat preventable nature.

It is worrisome when they point to an area of weakness as an area of strength.

GorillaWarfare wrote:
I don't think anyone here appreciates the significance of this. You can take that sticker and stick it on anything.
GW has literally just handed over the power to make anything a limited edition.

I put it on my front door.

BOOM! Limited Edition Home! Sold it for $10,000,000. ZOMG!

 TheCustomLime wrote:
I have a genuine question: Why are the numbers so important? Does it increase the value if the number is lower or does it prove that the book is legit?

Wouldn't you like to have #1, the first book? Or maybe 2000 since it's the last one. Or maybe have the CSM 666. Now that would be a very special one.

What would be cool is if GW made another mistake and sent a whole roll of 1 -- 2,000 numbered stickers to all 650 people who bought the limited edition.

 Kilkrazy wrote:
What would be cool is if GW made another mistake and sent a whole roll of 1 -- 2,000 numbered stickers to all 650 people who bought the limited edition.

I await the day I check ebay for 40k, see two codexes numbered 1, and know that thanks to GW's unique ability to cock up the most mundane of tasks, both will be equally legitimate...

I'm hoping the mistake comes with a coupon as well I need more plasticrack

My book finally came in today...and it was dented. I know, some of you will say 'But it's only a dent, just be happy you got a $165 book you paid extra for lolnoob #gwsucks'. I wouldn't buy a car off the lot with a flat tire or scratches. It's looking like a nice botch job, from where I'm sitting. Now mind you, I'm not getting mad or trying to whine or caps lock my feelings. I'm just disappointed while maintaining a level head.

That said, this is a super nice box set. Very high quality, it's really nice looking and has a great durable feel to it. It comes in a box, which is printed all over and has a magnetized seal. Inside are the 6 coins, which are actually made of metal and not 'burnished plastic' or whatnot. Real metal coins. There are 3 books inside, and a ribbon which makes it easier to take them out. Included is the Ork Book, Ghazzy Book and a book with all of the cover art from the first Ork book until now. I really like the alternate art on the Codex and Ghazzy book, but I'm a big fan of strong and simple design (Mondrian 4tw!).

DENT!




Please Insert Sticker Here:



Neat coins/objective markers:



Cool inside cover of the box

Mine came with some not too noticeable dents at the corners. That dent is pretty bad.

Have to say like the content that came with the box. Was hoping for the cards though. Also was hoping for a limited edition coupon or something like what they did for the new store page.

You get a limited edition mail card with it (or at least I did).

 Dez wrote:
My book finally came in today...and it was dented. I know, some of you will say 'But it's only a dent, just be happy you got a $165 book you paid extra for lolnoob #gwsucks'. I wouldn't buy a car off the lot with a flat tire or scratches. It's looking like a nice botch job, from where I'm sitting. Now mind you, I'm not getting mad or trying to whine or caps lock my feelings. I'm just disappointed while maintaining a level head.

That said, this is a super nice box set. Very high quality, it's really nice looking and has a great durable feel to it. It comes in a box, which is printed all over and has a magnetized seal. Inside are the 6 coins, which are actually made of metal and not 'burnished plastic' or whatnot. Real metal coins. There are 3 books inside, and a ribbon which makes it easier to take them out. Included is the Ork Book, Ghazzy Book and a book with all of the cover art from the first Ork book until now. I really like the alternate art on the Codex and Ghazzy book, but I'm a big fan of strong and simple design (Mondrian 4tw!).

DENT!

Call the 1 800 GW customer support. I had problems with my Limited Edition Tyranid codex, and CS were great help. Yes they sell expensive products, but GW Customer Support puts it's money where it's mouth is. Call them, they will fix it for you, in most cases send you a new book. They did for me.

I would not buy a limited edition but if I did and it came damaged I would send it back.

Yeah I'd be asking for a refund, there really is no excuse for it to be dented at that price. None of my books have been dented when they've arrived. They'd be getting taken back otherwise. YMMV.

I called and emailed, they were out of the office for the holiday when I called.

I think people need to keep things in perspective; I've seen a lot of outrage over "how could they charge that kind of price and have errors, damage, etc..." It's a book, believe me I know its frustrating, but imagine my anger when I get a recall notice on my BMW for something that should have been done at the factory.

It can happen anywhere which is not an excuse; the only way to ensure this stuff stops happening is to stop purchasing their product and at some point hopefully the company takes notice... Wishful thinking I know lol.

VanHallan wrote:
Hilarious. I am just laughing at the idea of buying the limited edition bs to begin with. GW messed up and anybody that bought that deserves it.

"The way I see it, GW doesn't charge enough for their product as is, so I'm going to spend a ton more money on a more expensive version of the same product."

lol. *golf clap* no sympathy here.

A little harsh, but I have to agree with the sentiment. People that buy limited edition stuff are responsible to a large extent for overall price rises. Buying limited edition shows GW that 40k fans are prepared to pay a premium for very little added value. This approach has been taken into the re-boxing of existing models and charging more for less of them.

There only used to be a... limited amount of limited edition stuff, then when 6th came everything became limited as GW realised their customers were huge mugs. Think about the message sales of LE edition stuff sends to GW. They must be laughing round the board room table that people would pay double for a different dust jacket.

If people want prices to go down, they need to stop paying lots more for very little extra. Plus, this time, you didn't even get your little number on the back.

I would not blame buyers of limited editions. The 2,000 possible sales of the 7th edition special version are a drop in the ocean compared with the 100,000 or so generic copies that GW hope to sell.

However the end of year report will be available in a couple of weeks and then we shall see how successful 7th edition has been so far.

I wish there was some medium to tell them that, for me at least, they're getting it wrong, but that the idea isn't without merit.

I would never, regardless of personal financial circumstances, good or bad, have forked out what they were asking for the LE 7th Ed rulebooks.

If they'd knocked out some nice, numbered, metal objective tokens by themselves for ~£15 however, I'd have been hitting F5 on pre order day like a loon.

 azreal13 wrote:
I wish there was some medium to tell them that, for me at least, they're getting it wrong, but that the idea isn't without merit.

I would never, regardless of personal financial circumstances, good or bad, have forked out what they were asking for the LE 7th Ed rulebooks.

If they'd knocked out some nice, numbered, metal objective tokens by themselves for ~£15 however, I'd have been hitting F5 on pre order day like a loon.

Best way to show them they're getting it wrong is to not buy it.

Anyway, had a little Google and can up with a business opportunity for you - I'd buy them off you! http://uk.orakel.com/products/tokens/metal-tokens

Or, if you just want them for your own use http://engraved-tags.co.uk/numbered-tags/deep-engraved-tags/deep-engraved-25mm-tag

Oh, I buy very little GW, I assure you. Certainly not the overpriced LE nonsense (though I did waver slightly over a Raven Guard LE codex.)
But that's only negative reinforcement, it doesn't in anyway express what I would buy if they made it available.

I'm too poor to raise the capital for the first option, and the second ones look too much like what they are (ID tags for dogs!) but thanks for looking!

Honestly this is the only limited edition thing GW has done books wise that's excited me at all.

The book, a supplement book (LE too!), and 5 coins. Prints of past codex art/ current codex art.

I'm a sucker for coins...(that act as objective markers)

The fact that it was for my race/faction, and that it seemed like I was getting a decent amount of product for the tag...made it really the only acceptable LE purchase to me at least.


Its a big bummer that its flawed. Still I liked what I got. One of the factions I've collected are the deathskulls so I like the codex cover.

I wonder if GW will be taking feedback at the open day?

They seem to have went from a very slow pace to frantic get loads of things out and charge as much as possible. Certainly in terms of Books anyway. Most recent kits have been hit or miss, thankfully FW are still going strong. Although they can be a bit pricey themselves. Definitely think that £70 for one HH book is an awful lot.

The problem I see with these limited edition books is that I think they falsely suggest that there will be value to the books. First off. There's usually nothing unique about these books GW sells, they recycle photos, models and art. The art is questionable in my opinion. Personally I like the quality of the art in the FW books.
#2, these books, regardless of rarity won't hold value because the rules change so often.
Would a 6th edition number one limited edition really be worth much? The 6th edition didn't last long, it was not widely accepted.
The new ork codex isn't so spectacular that I think in the future it's going to be worth much, perhaps if Ghaz were made more powerful and more in line with an actual LoW.

If there had been a 3.5 Chaos Space marine limited edition book. I can see something like that being popular, hold value due to how many people still talk about that codex.

You'd have been Better off just buying these books separately

I was hoping it showed today. Friday holiday means nothing delivered and USPS is fuzzy on Saturday.

As for the dent......... 2 weeks, no numbers and now a dent. Id call for sure and id even email the guy who emailed you on the numbers.

In all honesty, i dont know what all the fuss is about, lets get real, it is not like the limited editions are going to be worth anything later down the line.

Honestly I basically agree that the numbers don't technically mean much. The books value is going to be about as much as it would've had anyway.

I don't think the number being separate does anything other then annoy people at the quality of the book... all it really does is affect satisfaction with product.

The number does not go in the book, it goes on the inside of the box.

So the number is not a way of distinguishing between books.

The "Limited Edition" refers to the set - 2 x books, coins, artwork and case.

And it never occurred to me that there would be a unique number, but I was dead keen to have it all, have it asap and have a nice set.

Its so nice I will probably buy a soft cover Codex to use in games.

#BonusWeek :-)

The thing is that most folks that buy a limited edition buy it for the collectors value - and a numbered edition helps with the provenance.

A collector hopes that when the new edition comes out in six months then the book will at least retain its value, if not increase.

Making the number a sticker makes it easier to counterfeit, and drops the collectors value by a notch.

Mind you, once the books are out the door... there is no other reasonable way to get the numbers in the book.

I would suggest, if I thought that GW would listen, that the best option would be to sign the sticker, to make up for the bungle.

The Auld Grump

 TheAuldGrump wrote:


I would suggest, if I thought that GW would listen, that the best option would be to sign the sticker, to make up for the bungle.

A signed picture of Kirby in a pile of bare plastic space marines a-la American Beauty and meme-bold font "We're Sorry!"?

 TheKbob wrote:

 TheAuldGrump wrote:


I would suggest, if I thought that GW would listen, that the best option would be to sign the sticker, to make up for the bungle.

A signed picture of Kirby in a pile of bare plastic space marines a-la American Beauty and meme-bold font "We're Sorry!"?

I was thinking more along the lines of the lead designer for the Ork codex....

The Auld Grump, but, hey, if a Cosmo centerfold of Kirby works for you....

 TheKbob wrote:

 TheAuldGrump wrote:


I would suggest, if I thought that GW would listen, that the best option would be to sign the sticker, to make up for the bungle.

A signed picture of Kirby in a pile of bare plastic space marines a-la American Beauty and meme-bold font "We're Sorry!"?

I could just see as they are pouring the marines on him for the photo shoot him saying "Hey what the heck are these things???"

xxvaderxx wrote:
In all honesty, i dont know what all the fuss is about, lets get real, it is not like the limited editions are going to be worth anything later down the line.

This is my thought exactly. If you want the LE for your particular army I'm not going to try and convince you otherwise but they aren't going to be worth much when a new codex comes out in a couple of years time. Just take a look on eBay and you can see previous codexexamgoing for pennies.

Although I don't buy LE, I still collect codex of my armies. I started late for SoB but if I could get copies of their older codex (I think 2nd Ed?) I would buy it just to have it in my collection.

Worth of an item to some collectors is just having it in their collection, not for profiting. So those who bought the LE but had defects like large dents, even if not for profit, may still want an intact copy for their collection.

I wonder, realistically, how collectible these GW books are, say 20 years from now. The story writing in them certainly isn't good enough to justify going to any effort to find limited printing books. GW retcons backstory only a little less then comic book companies, making them marginal research material for setting. The rules will be ridiculously outdated, even if the game is being played, so there is little value there. Other then the need to own something of purposely limited production run, were is the value? What will cause people to decide they need to have this limited edition book with no literary value and of interest to only a very tiny segment of the population as reference source.

As a collector myself, I just don't see any extra value in these books compared to the regular codices.

I see this as an extension of GW customer relations policy.

At GW we sell rules and army/codex books the customers have to fix them selves.
We sell minatures the customers have to fix them selves.(Finecrap.)
Now we sell limited editions where the customer fixed the number on the book them selves!



I wonder if all the numbers they sent out are the same to save on printing costs, everyone gets number 0123.

Rumbleguts wrote:
I wonder, realistically, how collectible these GW books are, say 20 years from now. The story writing in them certainly isn't good enough to justify going to any effort to find limited printing books. GW retcons backstory only a little less then comic book companies, making them marginal research material for setting. The rules will be ridiculously outdated, even if the game is being played, so there is little value there. Other then the need to own something of purposely limited production run, were is the value? What will cause people to decide they need to have this limited edition book with no literary value and of interest to only a very tiny segment of the population as reference source.

As a collector myself, I just don't see any extra value in these books compared to the regular codices.

IDK about the LE of anything but eBay shows that old 40K standard books go for about £5 to £20, if you just want the info.

It might be fairly easy and cheap to buy the 4th, 5th and 6th edition rulebooks, and the relevant codexes, and whip up your own version of the game.

 milkboy wrote:


Worth of an item to some collectors is just having it in their collection, not for profiting. So those who bought the LE but had defects like large dents, even if not for profit, may still want an intact copy for their collection.

Couldn't have said it better myself.

Rumbleguts wrote:
I wonder, realistically, how collectible these GW books are, say 20 years from now. The story writing in them certainly isn't good enough to justify going to any effort to find limited printing books. GW retcons backstory only a little less then comic book companies, making them marginal research material for setting. The rules will be ridiculously outdated, even if the game is being played, so there is little value there. Other then the need to own something of purposely limited production run, were is the value? What will cause people to decide they need to have this limited edition book with no literary value and of interest to only a very tiny segment of the population as reference source.

As a collector myself, I just don't see any extra value in these books compared to the regular codices.

I'd say the immense volume of Limited Edition stuff reduces its value as well.

Of all GW Limited Edition stuff I'd say the books will probably retain their value the worst long-term. Miniatures- metal ones and older ones particularly- are good collectors items. I also think that the one recent GW product that would be a great collectable is the Void Shield Generator, especially if left in its box sealed.

Those crummy 'Warboss Edition', 'Collectors edition', 'whatever edition' stuff? I betcha they'll all be worthless in ten years.

The only reason I see this collectable having value is the objective markers and they never came out and said those were LE....still that's the assumption.

Hopefully the coins will have value.

Has anyone recieved their sticker yet? I emailed them back with my details and didnt get a reply.

I have mine, with a funny note written by my mate (weird, knhew it was his - read it and it was "in" his voice, before I knew it was his work) who works int eh studio. Quite a nice sticker, but nothing to be bothered about (616)

Do people really think the LE stuff will have any value? I but it for just looking nice; I dont buy them all, by any stretch, but this was pretty cool (very good graphical design, tokens) - similar to the lizardman book with the funky textured cover.

I got my sticker in the mail - 1832. Not that I actually care for it, but hey, I haz limited edition?

I could care less if the codex ends up being worthless, I got it because it looked cool and wanted the codex and the supplement all in one with cool covers, coins and an awesome chest. And I got that. So I'm a satisfied costumer!

Yeah, I'm bemused by people thinking any "collectors edition" of pretty much anything nowadays will actually have much enhanced value - not just GW, but ltd edition computer games, movies, etc.

Just to reiterate, I didn't buy it for an investment. I bought it because I love Orks, and I love collecting books especially LE items. I feel that not printing the numbers in the 'Limited Edition' books is the stupidest error they could have made besides misspelling Orks on the cover. Apparently GW doesn't think it's that big of a deal though frankly I'm still in awe. It's probably because I've spent a good chunk of my life working with collectibles.

so i am big on my le stuff, and would have been nice to have a number in my warboss dex, but was on the phone with them when i ordered it as to make sure there wasn't any errors in my shipping and make sure i got my low number (as i was pretty early on the buy), they said all books were already distributed to respective countries main warehouses and that even if you were the 1st one to order you may still end up with book 2000 as your country got books 1900-2000. def would have been nice to have a number in my book as i did want a low number, but honestly forgot to check the number was to into the rules updates i guess

 Dez wrote:
Just to reiterate, I didn't buy it for an investment. I bought it because I love Orks, and I love collecting books especially LE items. I feel that not printing the numbers in the 'Limited Edition' books is the stupidest error they could have made besides misspelling Orks on the cover. Apparently GW doesn't think it's that big of a deal though frankly I'm still in awe. It's probably because I've spent a good chunk of my life working with collectibles.

Huh? I didn't notice that at all. Where is this misspelling?

He means the only mistake more stupid than missing the numbers would be misspelling Orks on the cover.

But since the LE cover doesn't have text on it, they weren't able to make that mistake!

Exactly, just making a point