Sorry...I forgot to add the 2000 statistics. Only makes sense by way of comparison between 2000 and 2010.
Now added to OP.
This came off as a slam against the South, which I didn't intend (I live there). The whole nation got more poverty stricken in the 10 year period...pretty scary shift.
jasper76 wrote: Sorry...I forgot to add the 2000 statistics. Only makes sense by way of comparison between 2000 and 2010.
Now added to OP.
This came off as a slam against the South, which I didn't intend (I live there). The whole nation got more poverty stricken in the 10 year period...pretty scary shift.
Might want to switch them around and put the 2000 map (fig 3) before the 2010 map (fig 4).
My initial reaction was "poverty in the South decreased?"
Now that I look at it, it looks like every state except Wyoming got worse.
Like Rome we need a new infusion of cash and pronto. If only we had a sparsely inhabited territory nearby, rich in natural resources to exploit. + (looks north) + Oh yea , look out, that Canadian is going to attack! BLAM BLAM. + Our only clear path to annex that evil aggressor Canadia, so that they cannot attack us again. = PROFIT!
Right, because Obama was President from 2000 - 2008.
Can you think of anything that happened in, say, around 2009 that might, perhaps, have had an impact on things? Hmmmm...?
jasper76 wrote: Actually, AK, DC, UT, HI, WA, VT, NH, ND, SD, RI, NM, LA, MS, WV and MA didn't move....maybe more. My eyes hurt now.
As a point of analysis, it's important to point out that you are counting as "didn't move" some areas that were already at the limit for the scale. The nature of the map is such that a move from 19.8% to 20.01% (a change of 0.21%) is discernible, while a mover from 30% to 45%, for example, is not.
It's really a very, very poor set of data for drawing any conclusions.
curran12 wrote: That poverty is an issue in the US, and we shouldn't be making a political issue out of it?
There is no money in, or coming from, helping the poor so getting much done about it is slow going at best. Besides we have a War on Drugs, War on Crime, and War on Christmas that need all the time, money, and energy we can muster.
curran12 wrote: That poverty is an issue in the US, and we shouldn't be making a political issue out of it?
There is no money in, or coming from, helping the poor so getting much done about it is slow going at best. Besides we have a War on Drugs, War on Crime, and War on Christmas that need all the time, money, and energy we can muster.
Its also important to have an open border to keep wages down.
curran12 wrote: That poverty is an issue in the US, and we shouldn't be making a political issue out of it?
There is no money in, or coming from, helping the poor so getting much done about it is slow going at best. Besides we have a War on Drugs, War on Crime, and War on Christmas that need all the time, money, and energy we can muster.
Its also important to have an open border to keep wages down.
Buzzsaw wrote: Can you think of anything that happened in, say, around 2009 that might, perhaps, have had an impact on things? Hmmmm...?
The Great Recession started with the subprime mortgage collapse in 2007. GW Bush was President, and Obama was a Senator. But if it makes you feel better to blame Obama for everything. have at it I suppose.
curran12 wrote: That poverty is an issue in the US, and we shouldn't be making a political issue out of it?
There is no money in, or coming from, helping the poor so getting much done about it is slow going at best. Besides we have a War on Drugs, War on Crime, and War on Christmas that need all the time, money, and energy we can muster.
Its also important to have an open border to keep wages down.
curran12 wrote: That poverty is an issue in the US, and we shouldn't be making a political issue out of it?
There is no money in, or coming from, helping the poor so getting much done about it is slow going at best. Besides we have a War on Drugs, War on Crime, and War on Christmas that need all the time, money, and energy we can muster.
Its also important to have an open border to keep wages down.
This is the point where we point to the maps of poverty and compare them to political denominations. Then somebody will say "correlation =/= causation". Then we can post the data showing he information about which states send money to the federal government and which states take money from the federal government. Then we refute any of that data. Then somebody will talk about "urban" welfare families with thinly veiled attempts at race-baiting (maybe even talk about how liberals keep blacks down). Then we will provide the data that there are just as many white families on welfare as black. Then somebody will proclaim "I've never used any government handout". Then we find out they got a Pell Grant, took the Mortgage deduction or the child care credit on their taxes. Then somebody will start calling Obama Hitler, somebody will scream Neocon, somebody will proclaim that he is a RepubliCan and not a RepubliCan't while pulling their bootstraps through their monitor, and then the thread gets locked.
So since we all know how this thread will end can we just go back to watching cat videos on YouTube?
For extra interesting correlation, overlay that with the map of people who refer to soda generically as "coke", and then overlay that with the map of average IQ by state.
I'm not saying it isn't good, just that the amount of fat and sugar and salt that is used amazes me. If I watch a soul food cooking show I know 10 minutes in I'm already going to be horrified by the ingredients.
Like the British seem to have an amazing compulsion to take good fresh fish and cover it in cream. Thank god I live here where there is a distinct asiatic influence . That's multiculturalism working!
Bullockist wrote: I'm not saying it isn't good, just that the amount of fat and sugar and salt that is used amazes me. If I watch a soul food cooking show I know 10 minutes in I'm already going to be horrified by the ingredients.
Like the British seem to have an amazing compulsion to take good fresh fish and cover it in cream. Thank god I live here where there is a distinct asiatic influence . That's multiculturalism working!
Bullockist wrote: Nope I just find the term hilarious, and the food interesting. Where would I find soul food over here? :/
Sounds like an opportunity for an entrepeneur in Australia.
Interestingly, alot of Southern cooking actually derives its origins from Native Americans. And from slaves and poor people making the best with what they had, which I believe is the source of many styles of cooking worldwide.
curran12 wrote: That poverty is an issue in the US, and we shouldn't be making a political issue out of it?
There is nothing more political than poverty. The distribution of wealth is pretty much what politics is about.
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Frazzled wrote: Its also important to have an open border to keep wages down.
I've explained before, and now I'm going to explain again, that immigration doesn't drive wages down.
The important thing to understand is that more people aren't just more labour, they're also more demand. They consume just as much as they spend. If you want to plot this out on your demand and supply diagram, then as well as tracking an increase in supply of labour, you have to track an equal increase in demand for labour (to provide for the goods the immigrants are now consuming). This will produce an overall increase in labour consumed, while the price of labour remains constant.
Frazzled wrote: Its also important to have an open border to keep wages down.
I've explained before, and now I'm going to explain again, that immigration doesn't drive wages down.
The important thing to understand is that more people aren't just more labour, they're also more demand. They consume just as much as they spend. If you want to plot this out on your demand and supply diagram, then as well as tracking an increase in supply of labour, you have to track an equal increase in demand for labour (to provide for the goods the immigrants are now consuming). This will produce an overall increase in labour consumed, while the price of labour remains constant.
Yeah, I think the H1-B program does far more damage than someone sneaking for that migrant farmer job.
jasper76 wrote: Sounds like an opportunity for an entrepeneur in Australia.
No good can come of people trying to sell the food of a region they weren't brought up in.
Over here we get pretty good Indian, Thai and Vietnamese food, because we've had a lot of Indian, Thai and Vietnamese migrants. And South African food come to think of it, but that just might be a Perth thing.
But when it comes to stuff like Mexican... my god it's terrible, because there are very few Mexican migrants to Australia, and so there's no local culture for people to grow up in experiencing that food. I mean, I knew our Mexican food wasn't good, but I had no idea how bad it was until I ate Mexican in the US - I always thought Mexican was heavy, meat in a doughy bread with spicy sauce and stupid amounts of cheese, first bit in to Mexican in America and I realised how fresh the food is supposed to taste.
Same goes for fried chicken. I always thought it was just an oily, seasoned batter on top of dark chicken, then I had actual fried chicken in a proper place in the US. That made me realise that it's actually just that KFC sucks.
So uh, yeah, having people here just start making soul food would just mean Australia would get a really poor impression of soul food.
Bullockist wrote: I'm not saying it isn't good, just that the amount of fat and sugar and salt that is used amazes me. If I watch a soul food cooking show I know 10 minutes in I'm already going to be horrified by the ingredients.
Like the British seem to have an amazing compulsion to take good fresh fish and cover it in cream. Thank god I live here where there is a distinct asiatic influence . That's multiculturalism working!
daedalus wrote: Yeah, I think the H1-B program does far more damage than someone sneaking for that migrant farmer job.
Well, actually I think the opposite of that
Illegal labour, given the much reduced bargaining power does actually get paid a lot less, and that in turn weakens the position of other low skilled labour.
Whereas legal immigrant labour, well they're competing the same as any local labour (I would think the impact of visa limitations would be pretty marginal).
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daedalus wrote: Now I just want to show up with a backpack full of spices and fish to save you from yourselves.
daedalus wrote: Now I just want to show up with a backpack full of spices and wine, to make spiced wine Bacchus style, to save you from yourselves.
Fixed
Yeah, I think the H1-B program does far more damage than someone sneaking for that migrant farmer job.
If a foreign worker in H-1B status quits or is dismissed from the sponsoring employer, the worker must either apply for and be granted a change of status to another non-immigrant status, find another employer (subject to application for adjustment of status and/or change of visa), or leave the U.S.
daedalus wrote: Yeah, I think the H1-B program does far more damage than someone sneaking for that migrant farmer job.
Well, actually I think the opposite of that
Illegal labour, given the much reduced bargaining power does actually get paid a lot less, and that in turn weakens the position of other low skilled labour.
Whereas legal immigrant labour, well they're competing the same as any local labour (I would think the impact of visa limitations would be pretty marginal).
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daedalus wrote: Now I just want to show up with a backpack full of spices and fish to save you from yourselves.
I have a kitchen you can use.
Having an affinity for Australian women and having cooked southern food in a diner all through High School and after that recreationally for my whole life till now, I personally volunteer to be taken in as the personal cook of an Australian entrepreneur in his home and any southern themed restaurant they may want to start.
Bullockist wrote: I'm not saying it isn't good, just that the amount of fat and sugar and salt that is used amazes me. If I watch a soul food cooking show I know 10 minutes in I'm already going to be horrified by the ingredients.
Like the British seem to have an amazing compulsion to take good fresh fish and cover it in cream. Thank god I live here where there is a distinct asiatic influence . That's multiculturalism working!
We do? What's that called?
Idiocy? I dunno, it's just that combine the british love of dairy with the abundance of fish and the two get combined. For me it's a terrible choice as the fish gets a bit lost, I do however make a exception for seafood chowda. - say it frenchy!
I watch a fair amount of cooking shows and always seem to see brits add dairy to fish.
Having an affinity for Australian women and having cooked southern food in a diner all through High School and after that recreationally for my whole life till now, I personally volunteer to be taken in as the personal cook of an Australian entrepreneur in his home and any southern themed restaurant they may want to start.
I like how you think Mr.Church , get to Australia and the pick of waitresses in the restaurant.
You'll have to learn to deal with the rampant communism over here though
Bullockist wrote: I'm not saying it isn't good, just that the amount of fat and sugar and salt that is used amazes me. If I watch a soul food cooking show I know 10 minutes in I'm already going to be horrified by the ingredients.
Like the British seem to have an amazing compulsion to take good fresh fish and cover it in cream. Thank god I live here where there is a distinct asiatic influence . That's multiculturalism working!
We do? What's that called?
Idiocy? I dunno, it's just that combine the british love of dairy with the abundance of fish and the two get combined. For me it's a terrible choice as the fish gets a bit lost, I do however make a exception for seafood chowda. - say it frenchy!
I watch a fair amount of cooking shows and always seem to see brits add dairy to fish.
Having an affinity for Australian women and having cooked southern food in a diner all through High School and after that recreationally for my whole life till now, I personally volunteer to be taken in as the personal cook of an Australian entrepreneur in his home and any southern themed restaurant they may want to start.
I like how you think Mr.Church , get to Australia and the pick of waitresses in the restaurant.
You'll have to learn to deal with the rampant communism over here though
jasper76 wrote: Sounds like an opportunity for an entrepeneur in Australia.
No good can come of people trying to sell the food of a region they weren't brought up in.
Over here we get pretty good Indian, Thai and Vietnamese food, because we've had a lot of Indian, Thai and Vietnamese migrants. And South African food come to think of it, but that just might be a Perth thing.
But when it comes to stuff like Mexican... my god it's terrible, because there are very few Mexican migrants to Australia, and so there's no local culture for people to grow up in experiencing that food. I mean, I knew our Mexican food wasn't good, but I had no idea how bad it was until I ate Mexican in the US - I always thought Mexican was heavy, meat in a doughy bread with spicy sauce and stupid amounts of cheese, first bit in to Mexican in America and I realised how fresh the food is supposed to taste.
Same goes for fried chicken. I always thought it was just an oily, seasoned batter on top of dark chicken, then I had actual fried chicken in a proper place in the US. That made me realise that it's actually just that KFC sucks.
So uh, yeah, having people here just start making soul food would just mean Australia would get a really poor impression of soul food.
What I meant was for an American enterpeneur to go over there and open up a good soul food restaurant.
Bullockist wrote: I'm not saying it isn't good, just that the amount of fat and sugar and salt that is used amazes me. If I watch a soul food cooking show I know 10 minutes in I'm already going to be horrified by the ingredients.
Like the British seem to have an amazing compulsion to take good fresh fish and cover it in cream. Thank god I live here where there is a distinct asiatic influence . That's multiculturalism working!
We do? What's that called?
Idiocy? I dunno, it's just that combine the british love of dairy with the abundance of fish and the two get combined. For me it's a terrible choice as the fish gets a bit lost, I do however make a exception for seafood chowda. - say it frenchy!
I watch a fair amount of cooking shows and always seem to see brits add dairy to fish.
I'm honestly not sure what that would be... Do you mean butter or milk or what? Butter doesn't really count because that goes into everything, I've seen milk used in a few recipes for sauces and frankly yogurt does not strike me as particularly fish friendly...
I'm honestly not sure what that would be... Do you mean butter or milk or what? Butter doesn't really count because that goes into everything, I've seen milk used in a few recipes for sauces and frankly yogurt does not strike me as particularly fish friendly...
A lot of cream, milk for poaching (understandable for salted fish) and the ever ubiquitous butter.
See butter goes in everything you said it yourself. British obsession with dairy un-refuted!
I'm honestly not sure what that would be... Do you mean butter or milk or what? Butter doesn't really count because that goes into everything, I've seen milk used in a few recipes for sauces and frankly yogurt does not strike me as particularly fish friendly...
A lot of cream, milk for poaching (understandable for salted fish) and the ever ubiquitous butter.
See butter goes in everything you said it yourself. British obsession with dairy un-refuted!
daedalus wrote: For extra interesting correlation, overlay that with the map of people who refer to soda generically as "coke", and then overlay that with the map of average IQ by state.
So...Coke makes you stupid? I must tell my brother that, he guzzles it by the gallon.
jasper76 wrote: Sounds like an opportunity for an entrepeneur in Australia.
No good can come of people trying to sell the food of a region they weren't brought up in.
Over here we get pretty good Indian, Thai and Vietnamese food, because we've had a lot of Indian, Thai and Vietnamese migrants. And South African food come to think of it, but that just might be a Perth thing.
But when it comes to stuff like Mexican... my god it's terrible, because there are very few Mexican migrants to Australia, and so there's no local culture for people to grow up in experiencing that food. I mean, I knew our Mexican food wasn't good, but I had no idea how bad it was until I ate Mexican in the US - I always thought Mexican was heavy, meat in a doughy bread with spicy sauce and stupid amounts of cheese, first bit in to Mexican in America and I realised how fresh the food is supposed to taste.
Same goes for fried chicken. I always thought it was just an oily, seasoned batter on top of dark chicken, then I had actual fried chicken in a proper place in the US. That made me realise that it's actually just that KFC sucks.
So uh, yeah, having people here just start making soul food would just mean Australia would get a really poor impression of soul food.
For me, its Pulled Pork. My god, is it good when done by a skilled chef to a proper restaurant quality recipe. I tried a couple BBQ pulled pork sandwiches and bruschettas on a holiday visit to Washington DC a couple years ago...WOW. I'm utterly addicted now to BBQ pulled pork meals, Ive probably had at least one a month using Pulled Pork ready meals from Tesco, with the sauce swapped out for Sweet Baby Ray's BBQ Sauce.
No. Supposedly the rest of the Pride came to the rescue and chewed up the carcass to loosen the anus enough so the cub could wriggle out. (I can't keep a straight face after writing that).
An alternative interpretation could be that the other Lions were like "hahaha, silly cub. You can stay there while we eat" and the rescue of the cub was completely coincidental.
Jihadin wrote: Back in the days Baby Ray was my go to. Today I make my own.
Care to share your recipe? Or is it a trade marked family secret?
I like thick and sweet but with some kick to it.
Base is plain thick BBQ sauce of Hunt variety
minced onion
minced garlic
a wee bit of minced Thai chili pepper
Natural pure honey to even thickening it more (limited amount, helps make the sauce cling to meat)
At times a sliver of mince ginger
In a pan on LOW simmer. Add ingredients till your liking.
Can use corn starch in place of honey to
That's on chicken and at times pork
Steak and/or beef ribs
Soak for at least two hours
Kalbi style
Like two huge bottle of teriyaki
splash of sesame oil
minced onion
minced garlic
30 minute prior to grill
cup of Coke
I have so many recipes to fit whatever taste I may have these two are my top fav
Jihadin wrote: Back in the days Baby Ray was my go to. Today I make my own.
Care to share your recipe? Or is it a trade marked family secret?
I like thick and sweet but with some kick to it.
Base is plain thick BBQ sauce of Hunt variety
minced onion
minced garlic
a wee bit of minced Thai chili pepper
Natural pure honey to even thickening it more (limited amount, helps make the sauce cling to meat)
At times a sliver of mince ginger
In a pan on LOW simmer. Add ingredients till your liking.
Can use corn starch in place of honey to
That's on chicken and at times pork
Steak and/or beef ribs
Soak for at least two hours
Kalbi style
Like two huge bottle of teriyaki
splash of sesame oil
minced onion
minced garlic
30 minute prior to grill
cup of Coke
I have so many recipes to fit whatever taste I may have these two are my top fav
daedalus wrote: Yeah, I think the H1-B program does far more damage than someone sneaking for that migrant farmer job.
Well, actually I think the opposite of that
Illegal labour, given the much reduced bargaining power does actually get paid a lot less, and that in turn weakens the position of other low skilled labour.
Whereas legal immigrant labour, well they're competing the same as any local labour (I would think the impact of visa limitations would be pretty marginal).
Maybe it is a cultural thing, but when people in the US talk about open borders they mean that we have a heavy flow of illegal immigrants
Dreadclaw69 wrote: Maybe it is a cultural thing, but when people in the US talk about open borders they mean that we have a heavy flow of illegal immigrants
Ah, fair enough then.
Over here open border means a legally open border - ie minimal restrictions on people moving in to the country, including for work and permanent settlement.
daedalus wrote: For extra interesting correlation, overlay that with the map of people who refer to soda generically as "coke", and then overlay that with the map of average IQ by state.
So...Coke makes you stupid? I must tell my brother that, he guzzles it by the gallon.
It makes you poor, stupid, and Republican, if you want to crank the causation failure up to 11.
We can probably throw the "have a nickname as one's full first name" thing on top of the pile too. Jimmy, Joe, Billy, etc.
Actually to be totally honest I went twice. The first time was their shop in Uxbridge. It was awful.
The second time was in JFK airport in New York. I thought the famous reputation of the USA for quality and customer service would transform the experience compared to the English version. Actually it was far worse.
Actually to be totally honest I went twice. The first time was their shop in Uxbridge. It was awful.
The second time was in JFK airport in New York. I thought the famous reputation of the USA for quality and customer service would transform the experience compared to the English version. Actually it was far worse.
I once went to an American McDonald's (either New York or Washington DC, I forget which).
NEVER AGAIN.
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Automatically Appended Next Post: On the same trip I did however visit the best ice cream parlor in my life - Mr G's in Gettysburg - so the trip wasn't all that bad.
Here's a list of states by GDP per capita for you. If you can find some kind of pattern in there that shows Southern states have better economies then I'll have to give full credit to your imagination.
Delaware 67,475
Wyoming 66,612
Alaska 64,358
Connecticut 63,626
Minnesota 61,070
New York 56,415
Massachusetts 55,773
New Jersey 54,933
North Carolina 52,026
Virginia 51,049
California 50,769
Washington 50,313
Colorado 50,238
Maryland 49,674
Texas 49,500
Illinois 49,132
Hawaii 48,836
Georgia 48,496
North Dakota 47,387
Nebraska 47,329
South Dakota 47,051
Nevada 46,843
Iowa 46,706
Louisiana 45,965
Rhode Island 45,448
New Hampshire 45,121
Kansas 43,784
Pennsylvania 43,675
Oregon 43,238
Wisconsin 42,970
Oklahoma 40,993
Utah 40,863
Ohio 40,850
Vermont 40,653
Indiana 40,508
Arizona 40,107
Missouri 40,033
Florida 39,201
Maine 38,614
Tennessee 38,529
Michigan 37,274
Montana 36,339
New Mexico 36,326
Kentucky 36,077
Alabama 35,537
Arkansas 34,918
South Carolina 34,516
Idaho 34,451
West Virginia 34,185
Mississippi 32,321
Here's a list of states by GDP per capita for you. If you can find some kind of pattern in there that shows Southern states have better economies then I'll have to give full credit to your imagination.
Delaware 67,475
Wyoming 66,612
Alaska 64,358
Connecticut 63,626
Minnesota 61,070
New York 56,415
Massachusetts 55,773
New Jersey 54,933
North Carolina 52,026
Virginia 51,049
California 50,769
Washington 50,313
Colorado 50,238
Maryland 49,674
Texas 49,500
Illinois 49,132
Hawaii 48,836
Georgia 48,496
North Dakota 47,387
Nebraska 47,329
South Dakota 47,051
Nevada 46,843
Iowa 46,706
Louisiana 45,965
Rhode Island 45,448
New Hampshire 45,121
Kansas 43,784
Pennsylvania 43,675
Oregon 43,238
Wisconsin 42,970
Oklahoma 40,993
Utah 40,863
Ohio 40,850
Vermont 40,653
Indiana 40,508
Arizona 40,107
Missouri 40,033
Florida 39,201
Maine 38,614
Tennessee 38,529
Michigan 37,274
Montana 36,339
New Mexico 36,326
Kentucky 36,077
Alabama 35,537
Arkansas 34,918
South Carolina 34,516
Idaho 34,451
West Virginia 34,185
Mississippi 32,321
Hey may have been referencing Texas, which does have the Second highest GSP in the United States behind California. In which case, he is right, as Texas as much more robust economy than most other states.
Sasori wrote: Hey may have been referencing Texas, which does have the Second highest GSP in the United States behind California. In which case, he is right, as Texas as much more robust economy than most other states.
It's not much of an argument though. I mean, sure, Texas has the second highest GSP, but also the second highest population. By that argument, California has the highest GSP and therefore the best economy and all the southern states need to start listening to those socialist hippies. So the better measure is to look at GDP per capita... which means everyone needs to listen to... Delaware? What the hell?
Anyhow, even with GDP per capita is isn't much of an argument to pick out one good state and claim the whole region needs to be listened to. To take Texas as an example, in plenty of places they have effective economic practices - they work to encourage business, the planning laws are pretty straight forward and not that time consuming, but then they've also got all that oil. Picking out good policies from good fortune and good circumstances is near impossible.
That's why I asked fraz (or anyone else for that matter) to look at that list of states by GDP per capita and pick out any kind of pattern. There simply isn't a concentration of states at the top with certain kinds of economic policies, and states at the bottom with other kinds of economic policies. It's a real mix.
All of which means that the argument 'my state has a good economy therefore you need to listen to this whole region on economic policy' is just a really, really bad argument.
Here's a list of states by GDP per capita for you. If you can find some kind of pattern in there that shows Southern states have better economies then I'll have to give full credit to your imagination.
Delaware 67,475
Wyoming 66,612
Alaska 64,358
Connecticut 63,626
Minnesota 61,070
New York 56,415
Massachusetts 55,773
New Jersey 54,933
North Carolina 52,026
Virginia 51,049
California 50,769
Washington 50,313
Colorado 50,238
Maryland 49,674
Texas 49,500
Illinois 49,132
Hawaii 48,836
Georgia 48,496
North Dakota 47,387
Nebraska 47,329
South Dakota 47,051
Nevada 46,843
Iowa 46,706
Louisiana 45,965
Rhode Island 45,448
New Hampshire 45,121
Kansas 43,784
Pennsylvania 43,675
Oregon 43,238
Wisconsin 42,970
Oklahoma 40,993
Utah 40,863
Ohio 40,850
Vermont 40,653
Indiana 40,508
Arizona 40,107
Missouri 40,033
Florida 39,201
Maine 38,614
Tennessee 38,529
Michigan 37,274
Montana 36,339
New Mexico 36,326
Kentucky 36,077
Alabama 35,537
Arkansas 34,918
South Carolina 34,516
Idaho 34,451
West Virginia 34,185
Mississippi 32,321
Hey may have been referencing Texas, which does have the Second highest GSP in the United States behind California. In which case, he is right, as Texas as much more robust economy than most other states.
There is only Texas and Norte Texas*
*also New Mexico - aka RadZone, and the Louisiana aka "Here Be Dragons"
(Norte Texas also includes Canada, Central America, and Tahiti, they just don't know it yet)
I'm utterly addicted now to BBQ pulled pork meals, Ive probably had at least one a month using Pulled Pork ready meals from Tesco, with the sauce swapped out for Sweet Baby Ray's BBQ Sauce.
