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New GW CEO is internal Appointment @ 2014/11/11 15:18:44


Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured


From Beasts of War

“The Board of Games Workshop is pleased to announce the appointment of Kevin Rountree as Chief Executive Officer with effect from 1 January 2015.

Tom Kirby, Chairman and Acting Chief Executive Officer, will take up the position of Non-Executive Chairman with effect from that date.

Kevin, 45, joined Games Workshop in 1998. He is currently Chief Operating Officer of the Company. Commenting on the appointment, Tom Kirby said: “The Board undertook a thorough process in selecting our new CEO, receiving a significant number of applications for the position, both internal and external. Kevin was the outstanding candidate.

The board congratulates Kevin on his appointment and wishes him every success in his new role.”"

- See more at: http://www.beastsofwar.com/featured/breaking-gw-announce-ceo/#sthash.ZFUffK2o.dpuf


New GW CEO is internal Appointment @ 2014/11/11 15:25:47


Post by: NewTruthNeomaxim


Congratulations to James Hewitt! :-p

Edit: Boo... Joke only makes sense with the title accounted for, but before you add in the actual name from the release.


New GW CEO is internal Appointment @ 2014/11/11 15:27:51


Post by: Alpharius


This news - that it is an 'internal appointment' - it is not shocking.


New GW CEO is internal Appointment @ 2014/11/11 15:30:50


Post by: SilverDevilfish


The Kirby is dead, long live the Kirby.


New GW CEO is internal Appointment @ 2014/11/11 15:32:44


Post by: weeble1000


For those of you concerned about the financial health of our company, you can look forward to...more of the same!

Congrats GW. This is great news!


New GW CEO is internal Appointment @ 2014/11/11 15:46:33


Post by: Absolutionis


 SilverDevilfish wrote:
The Kirby is dead, long live the Kirby.
No he's not. He's totally not. He's only taking the title of a chairman that happens to own the largest amount of stock in the company. CEOs still answer to the stockholders, and in a sense, Kirby has quite the sway over the CEO.


New GW CEO is internal Appointment @ 2014/11/11 15:48:08


Post by: Azreal13


Congrats on the promotion for the Chief Krony!


New GW CEO is internal Appointment @ 2014/11/11 15:51:26


Post by: Kirasu


Hm, it's not cronyism to promote within the company.. It's actually the correct way to do things usually. Promoting your relative from outside the company or from way outside their expertise level is cronyism.


New GW CEO is internal Appointment @ 2014/11/11 16:04:05


Post by: MadCowCrazy


This is the only thing that comes to mind...


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New GW CEO is internal Appointment @ 2014/11/11 16:04:39


Post by: Azreal13


 Kirasu wrote:
Hm, it's not cronyism to promote within the company.. It's actually the correct way to do things usually. Promoting your relative from outside the company or from way outside their expertise level is cronyism.


Please, everyone who was paying attention knew this is what would happen, it just wasn't possible to say exactly who amongst Kirby's lieutenants would be chosen.

It may be that Kev was the best qualified, but it doesn't also mean he's also a Kirby yes man and that this appointment is meaningless in terms of any likely change to GW's approach.

I mean, this sort of corporate nepotism goes on literally every day, but when it is so obvious it still leaves a bad taste in my mouth.


New GW CEO is internal Appointment @ 2014/11/11 16:07:06


Post by: Alpharius


It doesn't?

Now that WOULD be shocking!


New GW CEO is internal Appointment @ 2014/11/11 16:22:34


Post by: Talizvar



No change, nothing to see here.
Take your dividends until no more profit can be realized.
At least it is not a change for the worse right?


New GW CEO is internal Appointment @ 2014/11/11 16:27:59


Post by: frozenwastes


The real question is who is replacing Kevin Rountree as CFO and COO? Or does he now have the responsibilities of three c-level executives?

This guy is definitely going to keep things going on the current path. He was in charge of both the company's financials and their day to day operations for quite some time. And now he's also in charge of everything.

As they say, one definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.

So what should we expect from here?

Higher prices on new releases
Continuing to decline available opponent pool
Surprise edition updates
Dividends per share at higher than earnings per share
Negligible reinvestment into the company
More stores reduced to single employee operations
Less product available to independent trade "partners"
Falling revenue and declining volume
More market share for the competitors



New GW CEO is internal Appointment @ 2014/11/11 16:59:37


Post by: Wayniac


While not surprised at an internal position, the fact they chose yet another accounts man (wasn't Kirby the same way?) shows that they don't think anything is wrong with the current trend.

Now there is a glimmer of hope that Kevin Rountree, being only 45 years old, isn't completely out of touch with the 21st century or modern business practices. A small glimmer, but a glimmer nonetheless since unless Kirby was refusing to listen to anyone else (unlikely but not outside the realm of possibility) then Rountree is aware of what was going on and is okay with it or even encouraged it.


New GW CEO is internal Appointment @ 2014/11/11 17:13:49


Post by: Azreal13


Kirby was worse than an accounts man, prior to joining GW, he was a tax man.


New GW CEO is internal Appointment @ 2014/11/11 17:15:01


Post by: Wayniac


 Azreal13 wrote:
Kirby was worse than an accounts man, prior to joining GW, he was a tax man.


*shudder*

Well maybe Rountree is smart enough to read financials and see that something is wrong, not handwave it away by saying things are fine.


New GW CEO is internal Appointment @ 2014/11/11 17:17:02


Post by: Shandara


Well they do claim he was outstanding.. by their standards.

Outstanding Attitude...


New GW CEO is internal Appointment @ 2014/11/11 17:22:58


Post by: squidhills


So, what I'm gathering from this news is that we can look forward to someone picking up the 40K IP in three years when GW tanks, right?


New GW CEO is internal Appointment @ 2014/11/11 17:46:26


Post by: Mr.Church13


Kirby puppet in place. Fast track to bankruptcy acquired. Fire all engines we are go for asset liquidation in 3-5 years.


New GW CEO is internal Appointment @ 2014/11/11 17:47:02


Post by: Guildsman


squidhills wrote:
So, what I'm gathering from this news is that we can look forward to someone picking up the 40K IP in three years when GW tanks, right?

No way. How can you say that? It'll be two years at most.

Glad to see that nothing has changed. We knew this would happen. I do hope that changes will be made, but I'd be lying if I said that I'm expecting any.


New GW CEO is internal Appointment @ 2014/11/11 17:50:38


Post by: weeble1000


squidhills wrote:
So, what I'm gathering from this news is that we can look forward to someone picking up the 40K IP in three years when GW tanks, right?


Yea, pretty much. Roundtree is not anything new. He's been the CFO and COO, so the direction GW has been heading in over the last five plus years has his fingerprints all over it. It is a double down internal promotion. If Roundtree wasn't executing Kirby's policies, he wouldn't have been in the positions he's been in.


New GW CEO is internal Appointment @ 2014/11/11 17:58:55


Post by: Breotan


In case there were people actually expecting something to change at GW, I'd like to remind you that the signs were there if you cared to look.

Spoiler:



New GW CEO is internal Appointment @ 2014/11/11 18:05:07


Post by: PsychoticStorm


Expecting a change? no not really...

Well that was their opportunity, seems they wasted as everybody predicted and expected, oh well.


New GW CEO is internal Appointment @ 2014/11/11 18:06:36


Post by: Warhams-77


This... IS GREAT NEWS!

(right?)


New GW CEO is internal Appointment @ 2014/11/11 18:09:38


Post by: Tannhauser42


 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
Commenting on the appointment, Tom Kirby said: “The Board undertook a thorough process in selecting our new CEO,


Translation: We drew straws.

Kevin was the outstanding candidate.


Translation: He drew the short straw.


New GW CEO is internal Appointment @ 2014/11/11 18:20:01


Post by: Thirdeye


No real change in the stock price since the announcement. Apparently the investors are equally unimpressed.


New GW CEO is internal Appointment @ 2014/11/11 18:29:48


Post by: agnosto


Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.


New GW CEO is internal Appointment @ 2014/11/11 18:34:32


Post by: gorgon


Thirdeye wrote:
No real change in the stock price since the announcement. Apparently the investors are equally unimpressed.


If a forum of gaming geeks figured out weeks and weeks ago that it was going to be an internal promotion, professional equity analysts just might have been able to come to the same conclusion. Which would mean that the announcement has already been baked into the current stock price. No surprises = no change.



New GW CEO is internal Appointment @ 2014/11/11 19:18:06


Post by: Vermis


You mean the "Wanted: one (1) CEO" ad among their blueshirt vacancies didn't happen to attract anyone?


New GW CEO is internal Appointment @ 2014/11/11 19:23:11


Post by: Sinful Hero


 agnosto wrote:
Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.

Beat me to it.


New GW CEO is internal Appointment @ 2014/11/11 19:57:02


Post by: Howard A Treesong


The name Kevin Rountree rang a bell straight away so it's no surprise they've appointee from within. As expected of course, but GW's problems really require someone with new ideas. The suspicion is that under Rountree it'll be service as usual. And that just isn't washing for GW right now.


New GW CEO is internal Appointment @ 2014/11/11 20:21:06


Post by: warboss


Well, if you're publicly stating that you're hiring not for skill but attitude... then promotion from within GW seems like a great idea! From the design team that brought us Santa Grimnar to the legal team that would sue their own mother for using the letter "c" if they could to the corporate types that lead us to the "if we let everyone buy everything at the expense of the game's remaining balance, we'll be rich!"... they're an an endless pit lacking in skill but brimming with (bad) attitude.

Mission Accomplished, GW!


New GW CEO is internal Appointment @ 2014/11/11 21:58:58


Post by: MrFlutterPie


In all honesty did anybody really and truly expect GW's new CEO would change the status quo?

I have always expected nothing to change with the new CEO.

*Business as usual*


New GW CEO is internal Appointment @ 2014/11/11 22:01:57


Post by: Tannhauser42


 MrFlutterPie wrote:
In all honesty did anybody really and truly expect GW's new CEO would change the status quo?


Expect? No.
Hope? Maybe.
As the old saying goes, "hope for the best but expect the worst." As long as Kirby is still there in any capacity, nothing will change.


New GW CEO is internal Appointment @ 2014/11/11 22:22:30


Post by: Guildsman


Even if Kirby did leave, things might not change. The entire upper management has been shaped by Kirby. If he left, they might still carry on the same way.


New GW CEO is internal Appointment @ 2014/11/11 23:23:12


Post by: MrFlutterPie


 Tannhauser42 wrote:
 MrFlutterPie wrote:
In all honesty did anybody really and truly expect GW's new CEO would change the status quo?


Expect? No.
Hope? Maybe.
As the old saying goes, "hope for the best but expect the worst." As long as Kirby is still there in any capacity, nothing will change.


I totally get that but you know what they say about hope and the first step to disappointment


New GW CEO is internal Appointment @ 2014/11/12 01:09:09


Post by: Dropbear Victim


It doesn't really matter who they promote to CEO.

The way I see it, the GW board operates like a think-tank in that they've weeded out all opposing ideas by the time people make it onto the board leaving only like-minded people to push the same ideas and agenda.

At this point there's nothing the board can do to change itself due to the nature of think-tanks; anyone who suddenly has a different plan of action would be outed. Only the investors potentially smiting the board with a (war)hammer will do anything, and they're still getting big enough dividends to not bother*.

*Yet! Market share collapse will change this at some point.


New GW CEO is internal Appointment @ 2014/11/12 02:26:56


Post by: Jehan-reznor


I bet they choose him for the best qualifications


New GW CEO is internal Appointment @ 2014/11/12 03:02:13


Post by: Padre


Sad...truly sad.

Let the GW decline continue...


New GW CEO is internal Appointment @ 2014/11/12 03:38:44


Post by: Stormonu


Makes me wonder if the sudden stock drop 6 months ago was Kirby cashing out.

As others have said:

"Move along. Nothing to see here."


New GW CEO is internal Appointment @ 2014/11/12 03:54:55


Post by: prplehippo


It could be said that instead of him being Kirby's puppet maybe he has the same opinion and POV that Kirby has.

That still won't change anything, it was just a thought.


New GW CEO is internal Appointment @ 2014/11/12 04:00:21


Post by: H.B.M.C.


So this is kinda like when Putin stopped being President and became Prime Minister (or whatever) for a while. He was still in charge, just not in name.


New GW CEO is internal Appointment @ 2014/11/12 04:21:45


Post by: ced1106


squidhills wrote:
So, what I'm gathering from this news is that we can look forward to someone picking up the 40K IP in three years when GW tanks, right?


Probably GameZone! Who's in for Space Crusade?

And congrats to Mantic on their future success!


New GW CEO is internal Appointment @ 2014/11/12 10:47:18


Post by: angelofvengeance


 Azreal13 wrote:
Kirby was worse than an accounts man, prior to joining GW, he was a tax man.


That explains it all really.


New GW CEO is internal Appointment @ 2014/11/12 10:57:34


Post by: casvalremdeikun


Two things are unfortunate about this. One, that Kirby is still with company. Two, that one of the fools that was helping run the company into the ground before was put in charge.


New GW CEO is internal Appointment @ 2014/11/12 11:02:08


Post by: The Division Of Joy


Alot of people with the inside scoop on the new guy in here.

Fill me in then chaps, what's this guys background? I'm assuming this isn't over-reaction and baseless comment, that just ain't Dakka!


New GW CEO is internal Appointment @ 2014/11/12 11:37:23


Post by: frozenwastes


His bio is right on the investor relations page under board members. Go read it. He's an accountant and prior to being the CEO was both the COO (chief operating officer) and the (CFO) chief financial officer. He's been implementing the board's plan for years and now he's in charge of spearheading the plan, all under the direction of the same person as before.

I wonder if they'll be promoting someone to CFO or COO as well, because expecting one person to do all three c-level jobs is asking them to put in 100 hour weeks.


New GW CEO is internal Appointment @ 2014/11/12 11:40:02


Post by: BlaxicanX


I'm disappointed by the lack of GW apologizing ITT.

"You guys constantly whined about Tom Kirby, now Kirby's gone and you're whining about that! GW just can't win!"


New GW CEO is internal Appointment @ 2014/11/12 11:52:50


Post by: Firefash


The Division Of Joy wrote:
Alot of people with the inside scoop on the new guy in here.

Fill me in then chaps, what's this guys background? I'm assuming this isn't over-reaction and baseless comment, that just ain't Dakka!


His background is in running GW as a member of the board and heading up GWs financials, so he's already ball deep in GWs current strategies and unlikely to change anything.

However I would like to point out that GW are undergoing some changes that look promising even before Kidby left and some it must have been in the works for at least 2 years due to the lead time on projects.

Then while everyone goes on about rising prices maybe you should do some price comparisons and check your figures, Yes there was a point when prices went bonkers but now things seem to have settled a fair bit.
For example Nids are a good track.
A couple of years back we got the Tyrannofex/Tervigon kit at £35 in january an example of the serious price hikes on new kits we got the Haruspex/Exocrine at £44
Now 6 months later they have kept the price at least the same as the Jan release for the Maleceptor/Toxicrene at £44 with past trend I would have expected them to match the Harpy/Hive Crone at £48 if not breaking the £50

now just one batch of kits isn't going to convince me of a change in methods but just look across the range a little, using the Wraithknight as a benchmark as a big kit released during a time when it was undeniable that GW where price hiking like mad.

now in the nid release we're getting the Tyrannocyte that's rumoured to be as tall as the wraithknight yet is only just over half the price, with the likely popularity of the kit I was genuinely expecting it to be around the price of the harpy if not more.
Likewise Nagash a 1k point model, similar in size yet far more complex than the knight is £5 less, and The Glotkin is £66, the list goes on through the End times releases, yes they are still getting things wrong (£200 for the realm of battle board if far to much) but nowhere near as shocking as some of the things earlier this year and last.

I'd say the last time I scoffed at a price with the Mek Gun, £28 is far to much even though we at least get enough spares to scratch build extra options using the leftover barrels.

We can only hope (and likely be disappointed) that they are listening at least a bit (even if it's just that person who got the two year customer service consultant role) and that they see results that prove us right.



New GW CEO is internal Appointment @ 2014/11/12 12:49:51


Post by: Vermis


 Firefash wrote:

However I would like to point out that GW are undergoing some changes that look promising even before Kidby left and some it must have been in the works for at least 2 years due to the lead time on projects.

Then while everyone goes on about rising prices maybe you should do some price comparisons and check your figures, Yes there was a point when prices went bonkers but now things seem to have settled a fair bit.


Settling prices at a bonkers level rather than making them even more bonkers is... maybe not as hopeful as it could be.


New GW CEO is internal Appointment @ 2014/11/12 13:47:21


Post by: SilverMK2


 Firefash wrote:
We can only hope (and likely be disappointed) that they are listening at least a bit (even if it's just that person who got the two year customer service consultant role) and that they see results that prove us right.


The fact that their pricing is all over the shop is an indication of them not having any real idea of how to price their models combined with an unwillingness to address glaring imbalances in where they set their prices for different kits.

GW doesn't reduce prices - that would give the suggestion that their products are not worth as much as their pricing point!


New GW CEO is internal Appointment @ 2014/11/12 15:24:09


Post by: Firefash


That one is a problem for them and not something I expect to change. Especially in light of the new CEO, Though it's an excellent opportunity to announce a price evaluation and bring the whole structure into line across the board I'd be very surprised if they did.


New GW CEO is internal Appointment @ 2014/11/12 15:29:06


Post by: Nostromodamus


Thread title should be changed from "internal appointment" to "eternal disappointment".


New GW CEO is internal Appointment @ 2014/11/12 15:30:48


Post by: Lone Cat


So the shareholders knew that Only GW crew is best for GW (and its customers).


New GW CEO is internal Appointment @ 2014/11/12 15:48:23


Post by: Looky Likey


Its a shame that there isn't a suitable C level exec from a mid to large company out there who is a war gaming fan and willing to troll the GW recruitment process for this job. I'd have loved to have had insight to the GW interview process for this if they had obviously qualified people applying for the job who weren't the chosen one.


New GW CEO is internal Appointment @ 2014/11/12 17:02:43


Post by: agnosto


 Looky Likey wrote:
Its a shame that there isn't a suitable C level exec from a mid to large company out there who is a war gaming fan and willing to troll the GW recruitment process for this job. I'd have loved to have had insight to the GW interview process for this if they had obviously qualified people applying for the job who weren't the chosen one.


There's nothing to suggest there wasn't. Somehow I doubt anyone was interviewed for the position other than Mr. Roundtree, if there was even an interview involved. This is an indicator of how hands-off the institutional investors who own majority shares are in the governance of the company; this appointment smacks completely like, "Well lads, who hasn't had a turn at being CEO yet?"


New GW CEO is internal Appointment @ 2014/11/12 17:18:49


Post by: BunkerBob


Does roundtree at least have hair? I mean we did pay for the points at least, can we at least get some hair?


New GW CEO is internal Appointment @ 2014/11/12 17:19:09


Post by: Wayniac


 Looky Likey wrote:
Its a shame that there isn't a suitable C level exec from a mid to large company out there who is a war gaming fan and willing to troll the GW recruitment process for this job. I'd have loved to have had insight to the GW interview process for this if they had obviously qualified people applying for the job who weren't the chosen one.


From what I read (it was hinted, not specifically stated) the guy from MasterMinis/PaintingBuddha applied for the position (the guy who is a huge miniatures geek and ex-CIO of Aldi). So it's not that people didn't, it's that GW made a dog and pony show when they knew they were going to promote from within.

EDIT: Actually, he says himself on his website that he applied for it:

Michael Bartels wrote:
And I actually applied for this position as I thought that my past experience as Global CIO in a world-wide operating retail business with over 4000 stores and over 20bn in sales, combined with 21+ years of being a hardcore hobbyist and being somewhat of a miniature industry expert would be skills they might look for. Alas, like many others I know of, I wasn't even invited for an interview Maybe those are not the skills they are looking for. *handmotion*


So they knew from the start they were hiring from within, because anyone sane would have hired this guy. Executive-level experience, retail experience, hobby geek. It has GW written all over it.


New GW CEO is internal Appointment @ 2014/11/12 18:28:51


Post by: Azreal13


WayneTheGame wrote:


Michael Bartels wrote:
And I actually applied for this position as I thought that my past experience as Global CIO in a world-wide operating retail business with over 4000 stores and over 20bn in sales, combined with 21+ years of being a hardcore hobbyist and being somewhat of a miniature industry expert would be skills they might look for. Alas, like many others I know of, I wasn't even invited for an interview Maybe those are not the skills they are looking for. *handmotion*


So they knew from the start they were hiring from within, because anyone sane would have hired this guy. Executive-level experience, retail experience, hobby geek. It has GW written all over it.


I seldom get emotional about the stupid gak GW pulls, I'm still a 40K gamer but I get as much as possible from non-GW companies now, so the prices don't phase me, if they produce a dumb model for a unit I want to field, I seek out an alternate, I'm not competitive, so while I strongly advocate for tighter, clearer, better balanced rules, I don't care if I lose as long as I have fun in the process.

I am insulated from GW as far as possible while still maintaining an interest in their product. (Let's be fair, it is essentially product singular now.)

But this?

This makes me quite angry. It simply illustrates everything we feared about GW corporate is most likely true. He shouldn't have just been offered the job, but the fact that they weren't even willing to have the conversation? Absolutely disgusting.


New GW CEO is internal Appointment @ 2014/11/12 18:35:28


Post by: Mark1130


All I know, Is I'm still going to eBay and you guys for all my miniature buying needs.....

The new CEO is not going to change anything soon.

EVERY Captain pilots their ships different...


New GW CEO is internal Appointment @ 2014/11/12 18:35:37


Post by: Grey Knight Janitor


For a company that is worth millions of pounds I spend a lot of time shaking my head at their decisions.


New GW CEO is internal Appointment @ 2014/11/12 18:48:44


Post by: Azreal13


 Grey Knight Janitor wrote:
For a company that is worth millions of pounds I spend a lot of time shaking my head at their decisions.


Well, it's worth about 33% fewer millions of pounds than it was a year ago today.


New GW CEO is internal Appointment @ 2014/11/12 19:12:28


Post by: Wonderwolf


 Azreal13 wrote:

Well, it's worth about 33% fewer millions of pounds than it was a year ago today.


On the other hand, it's worth 100% more millions of pounds than it was today five years ago, around the time when Mr. Roundtree started his job as CFO.



New GW CEO is internal Appointment @ 2014/11/12 19:13:58


Post by: Sigvatr


More like internal disappointment, amirite?


New GW CEO is internal Appointment @ 2014/11/12 19:23:45


Post by: Azreal13


Wonderwolf wrote:
 Azreal13 wrote:

Well, it's worth about 33% fewer millions of pounds than it was a year ago today.


On the other hand, it's worth 100% more millions of pounds than it was today five years ago, around the time when Mr. Roundtree started his job as CFO.



Which would be impressive if natural growth in the share market didn't account for a good percentage of that increase (the trend of the stock market is always up, if taken over a long enough period.)

It would also be more impressive of the share price hadn't imploded back in January and wiped millions off their value.



New GW CEO is internal Appointment @ 2014/11/12 21:36:20


Post by: Harriticus


Absolutely no change will come of this. I'doubt this guy even knows a single thing about any of the products GW sells.


New GW CEO is internal Appointment @ 2014/11/12 21:49:57


Post by: Firefash


Sadly they just don't realise that 40k is successful despite of GW corporate not because of it.


New GW CEO is internal Appointment @ 2014/11/12 22:32:22


Post by: MeanGreenStompa


Given the list of possible potential internal candidates, there were some choices I'd rather have seen and some I would have dreaded. We got off lightly with this guy, let's see what he's about, he's been in the company since the 90s, which saw some amazing stuff from GW and he's seen the recent financial bombshells, so perhaps we'll see some changes.


New GW CEO is internal Appointment @ 2014/11/13 03:37:28


Post by: Stormonu


 MeanGreenStompa wrote:
Given the list of possible potential internal candidates, there were some choices I'd rather have seen and some I would have dreaded. We got off lightly with this guy, let's see what he's about, he's been in the company since the 90s, which saw some amazing stuff from GW and he's seen the recent financial bombshells, so perhaps we'll see some changes.


I wouldn't count on it - he remained while the smart ones went elsewhere.


New GW CEO is internal Appointment @ 2014/11/13 06:29:21


Post by: TheKbob


I like how model price comes up and we can still link to another thread that displays 12" tall fully posable plastic kits with quadruple to quintuple the sprues of a GW kit for a grand total of $65 on Amazon making a Wraithknight look like both child's play and an overpriced static mess. A plastic blob that's clam shell and tentacles to glue to it at any price above that of a drop pod is silly.

I'm surprised that they had a potential fan favorite successful C-level officer with industry enthusiasm (and experience, bruddahs!) and he wasn't even interviewed as a token gesture.

We have two points for a line. The third, coming this January, will give us a trend. We all seem to be on point on what to expect, that is if a record number of releases to include poster boys and a full edition didn't stop the loss (even factoring out the stupid incident costs like the website), then a few new bugs and some big stiff for "that game that's not as dead as the Hobbit" aren't going to turn it around.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
 Stormonu wrote:
 MeanGreenStompa wrote:
Given the list of possible potential internal candidates, there were some choices I'd rather have seen and some I would have dreaded. We got off lightly with this guy, let's see what he's about, he's been in the company since the 90s, which saw some amazing stuff from GW and he's seen the recent financial bombshells, so perhaps we'll see some changes.


I wouldn't count on it - he remained while the smart ones went elsewhere.


I think that's the more sensible assumption at this point, sadly. A lot of the big names and talent are all leaving or have left to do other things.


New GW CEO is internal Appointment @ 2014/11/13 08:09:28


Post by: Looky Likey


WayneTheGame wrote:
 Looky Likey wrote:
Its a shame that there isn't a suitable C level exec from a mid to large company out there who is a war gaming fan and willing to troll the GW recruitment process for this job. I'd have loved to have had insight to the GW interview process for this if they had obviously qualified people applying for the job who weren't the chosen one.


From what I read (it was hinted, not specifically stated) the guy from MasterMinis/PaintingBuddha applied for the position (the guy who is a huge miniatures geek and ex-CIO of Aldi). So it's not that people didn't, it's that GW made a dog and pony show when they knew they were going to promote from within.

EDIT: Actually, he says himself on his website that he applied for it:

Michael Bartels wrote:
And I actually applied for this position as I thought that my past experience as Global CIO in a world-wide operating retail business with over 4000 stores and over 20bn in sales, combined with 21+ years of being a hardcore hobbyist and being somewhat of a miniature industry expert would be skills they might look for. Alas, like many others I know of, I wasn't even invited for an interview Maybe those are not the skills they are looking for. *handmotion*
This is exactly what I was hoping for, somebody obviously qualified and willing to confirm how far they got. The average forumite isn't going to have enough of a quality CV to get anywhere near. This confirms my suspicion that they always knew who was going to get the job months ahead of time and all this talk of looking everywhere for the best and brightest was just that.

So they knew from the start they were hiring from within, because anyone sane would have hired this guy. Executive-level experience, retail experience, hobby geek. It has GW written all over it.


New GW CEO is internal Appointment @ 2014/11/13 08:53:19


Post by: Herzlos


Bear in mind Kirby brags about not looking at CV's; it's all about covering letters and attitudes. That said, not offering an interview to a CIO from a much bigger company is pretty stupid you want to grow.

But then, I've heard [citation needed] that the GW board/CxO's don't want GW to grow so big that investors start to take over control, which is the reason for not partnering with HB/De Agnosti again, so I wouldn't be surprised if the above candidate was written off for being too good.


New GW CEO is internal Appointment @ 2014/11/13 11:39:47


Post by: Kangodo


 MrFlutterPie wrote:
In all honesty did anybody really and truly expect GW's new CEO would change the status quo?
I have always expected nothing to change with the new CEO.
*Business as usual*

Thread isn't even a day old.
Did you expect them to change the status quo within 24 hours?

It seems people are disappointed that nobody from this forum became CEO


New GW CEO is internal Appointment @ 2014/11/13 12:00:11


Post by: Grimtuff


So, no real change then?

See you in January folks. Same GW time, same GW channel.


New GW CEO is internal Appointment @ 2014/11/13 12:46:05


Post by: Herzlos


Kangodo wrote:
It seems people are disappointed that nobody from this forum became CEO


I think everyone is disappointed because no-one new is in charge.


New GW CEO is internal Appointment @ 2014/11/13 12:48:00


Post by: Do_I_Not_Like_That


 MeanGreenStompa wrote:
Given the list of possible potential internal candidates, there were some choices I'd rather have seen and some I would have dreaded. We got off lightly with this guy, let's see what he's about, he's been in the company since the 90s, which saw some amazing stuff from GW and he's seen the recent financial bombshells, so perhaps we'll see some changes.


If I were you, I'd go and see a doctor about that terrible case of optimism fever you're suffering from

We've both been in the hobby long enough to know that GW will change its approach on the same day Lord Lucan walks into the Old Bailey.


New GW CEO is internal Appointment @ 2014/11/13 13:24:27


Post by: Kilkrazy


 TheKbob wrote:
I like how model price comes up and we can still link to another thread that displays 12" tall fully posable plastic kits with quadruple to quintuple the sprues of a GW kit for a grand total of $65 on Amazon making a Wraithknight look like both child's play and an overpriced static mess. A plastic blob that's clam shell and tentacles to glue to it at any price above that of a drop pod is silly.

I'm surprised that they had a potential fan favorite successful C-level officer with industry enthusiasm (and experience, bruddahs!) and he wasn't even interviewed as a token gesture.

We have two points for a line. The third, coming this January, will give us a trend. We all seem to be on point on what to expect, that is if a record number of releases to include poster boys and a full edition didn't stop the loss (even factoring out the stupid incident costs like the website), then a few new bugs and some big stiff for "that game that's not as dead as the Hobbit" aren't going to turn it around. ... .


To go slightly off topic, as a Tyranid player I have looked at some of the new kits but, since the core rules and codex are too expensive and I did not buy them, there was no point in my giving the additional units more than a cursory glance.




New GW CEO is internal Appointment @ 2014/11/13 15:48:13


Post by: Shadow Captain Edithae


He's the CEO Games Workshop deserves but not the one it needs right now.



New GW CEO is internal Appointment @ 2014/11/13 16:01:51


Post by: Gragga Da Krumpa


As usual, once a company loses its original founders as directors, and goes public, it loses all control and has sold its soul for (often temporary) profit, in exchange for long-term losses.


New GW CEO is internal Appointment @ 2014/11/13 18:09:20


Post by: Pacific


 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:
He's the CEO Games Workshop deserves but not the one it needs right now.



You could argue that, looking at the previous financials, putting an accountant in charge is exactly what the company requires (purely from the business perspective of course - I don't think anyone really expects a radical change of policy or a more customer-friendly company).


New GW CEO is internal Appointment @ 2014/11/13 18:18:37


Post by: PhantomViper


 Pacific wrote:


You could argue that, looking at the previous financials, putting an accountant in charge is exactly what the company requires


Why? Their reports weren't being filled correctly so they needed someone in charge that could fix that?


New GW CEO is internal Appointment @ 2014/11/13 20:43:43


Post by: Yodhrin


 Pacific wrote:
 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:
He's the CEO Games Workshop deserves but not the one it needs right now.



You could argue that, looking at the previous financials, putting an accountant in charge is exactly what the company requires (purely from the business perspective of course - I don't think anyone really expects a radical change of policy or a more customer-friendly company).


If said accountant was an external hire who could come in and shake some sense into the board, even just as you say in the business sense, sure, but this guy is your standard Kirbydroid 7000 who's been occupying two of the most senior c-level jobs in the company for years now; it's highly unlikely he thinks there's anything wrong with the current direction.


New GW CEO is internal Appointment @ 2014/11/13 21:26:21


Post by: Adder Ant


Not much of change, is it?


New GW CEO is internal Appointment @ 2014/11/13 22:54:58


Post by: mitch_rifle


And the wheels on the bus go round, round,round.....


New GW CEO is internal Appointment @ 2014/11/14 00:59:18


Post by: Shadow Captain Edithae


 mitch_rifle wrote:
And the wheels on the bus go round, round,round.....


I imagine a GW bus would have square wheels.


New GW CEO is internal Appointment @ 2014/11/14 02:07:56


Post by: SilverDevilfish


 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:
 mitch_rifle wrote:
And the wheels on the bus go round, round,round.....


I imagine a GW bus would have square wheels.


Nah they're just full of holes.


New GW CEO is internal Appointment @ 2014/11/14 02:13:30


Post by: Achaylus72


Makes sense considering, having someone coming from the outside with fresh ideas is totally obscene to GW.

Well at least two thing are certain no Sisters of Battle/Bretonnians update for the next 10 years.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
 Grey Knight Janitor wrote:
For a company that is worth millions of pounds I spend a lot of time shaking my head at their decisions.


Yeah now the new stooge has to account for another average 11 Million Pound+ sales loss globally to the share holders.



New GW CEO is internal Appointment @ 2014/11/14 03:34:02


Post by: Stormonu


 SilverDevilfish wrote:
 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:
 mitch_rifle wrote:
And the wheels on the bus go round, round,round.....


I imagine a GW bus would have square wheels.


Nah they're just full of holes.


Are you daft?

Wheels would require the GW bus to go to its customers. They must ensure everyone will come to them, so it's just a building - painted in Imperial Fist yellow.


New GW CEO is internal Appointment @ 2014/11/14 03:35:30


Post by: Shadow Captain Edithae


 Stormonu wrote:
 SilverDevilfish wrote:
 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:
 mitch_rifle wrote:
And the wheels on the bus go round, round,round.....


I imagine a GW bus would have square wheels.


Nah they're just full of holes.


Are you daft?

Wheels would require the GW bus to go to its customers. They must ensure everyone will come to them, so it's just a building - painted in Imperial Fist yellow.


With crumbling fortress walls and a moat being slowly filled in with detritus...


New GW CEO is internal Appointment @ 2014/11/14 03:39:10


Post by: casvalremdeikun


 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:
 mitch_rifle wrote:
And the wheels on the bus go round, round,round.....


I imagine a GW bus would have square wheels.
Don't be ridiculous, they are British, not Canadian.


New GW CEO is internal Appointment @ 2014/11/14 10:47:49


Post by: Quarterdime


 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:

I imagine a GW bus would have square wheels.




And bumpy, ridged metal sidewalks with no way to get to work without walking through a large gutter.


New GW CEO is internal Appointment @ 2014/11/14 11:20:47


Post by: mitch_rifle


The management must have such absolute belief and confidence within themselves that they are doing the right thing

It's quite fascinating really the absolute zealous attitude they have towards denying any and all change

The parallels between them and the imperium are a little too close

Maybe they've become to involved with their own IP that they actually believe it


New GW CEO is internal Appointment @ 2014/11/14 12:02:14


Post by: Vermis


 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:
I imagine a GW bus would have square wheels.




No need to imagine.


New GW CEO is internal Appointment @ 2014/11/14 15:57:12


Post by: SilverMK2


 Vermis wrote:
 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:
I imagine a GW bus would have square wheels.




No need to imagine.


Damnit - I was going to post that


New GW CEO is internal Appointment @ 2014/11/14 17:06:29


Post by: wuestenfux


This was to be expected.
Somebody from inside with the same visions as Kirby.
Congratulations.


New GW CEO is internal Appointment @ 2014/11/14 18:49:59


Post by: sabote


The only reason you put a CFO in as a CEO is because the board does not want change and they are fairly happy with the direction the company is heading. Most CFOs think they can run a company because this is rarely true. What they are capable is maintaining the status quo and continuing to implement the current strategies while cutting costs.


New GW CEO is internal Appointment @ 2014/11/15 22:17:56


Post by: frozenwastes


They really need to get someone to take one of Rountree's three c-level responsibilities. The sheer number of hours he'll have to spend at the office to do everything a CFO, COO and CEO do for a international company with retail locations will be killer.

Now it's entirely possible that he's going to really just continue to be CFO/COO and Kirby and the other non-executive members will split the CEO duties with Rountree as a puppet/name.


New GW CEO is internal Appointment @ 2014/11/16 00:55:25


Post by: weeble1000


 frozenwastes wrote:
Now it's entirely possible that he's going to really just continue to be CFO/COO and Kirby and the other non-executive members will split the CEO duties with Rountree as a puppet/name.


That would be my assumption. It's just business as usual with the same people functionally doing the same things.


New GW CEO is internal Appointment @ 2014/11/16 18:49:40


Post by: manrogue


Interesting rumour off BoLS regarding new CEO-

http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2014/11/rumors-gws-new-ceo-and-changes-ahead.html
] RUMORS: GW's New CEO and the Changes Ahead
Posted by Larry Vela at 11/16/2014 4 Comments

Games Workshop has a new CEO in place. Here's the latest on what the change will mean for the next year:



via Steve the Warboss 11-16-2014

After the reorganisation of the Managment, the replacement of Kirby and the switch of CEO, GW will have probably some more little changes in the assortment:

Look for these changes:

-The number of limited releases will increase

-More classic GW games (Epic, Mortheim, ...) should be released in "all-in-one" Boxed Sets with limited run (like Space Hulk)

-In contrast to rumors that have been wrong, there is internally a serious discussion of FW

-There are plans to integrate FW in the core assortment, how to be solved is not yet clear

The following is a speculation by me (The Source):

-Horus Heres is very successful, GW wants so sell FW-Products in their Stores and the Webpage to increase sales, but they don't know how FW will Produce their range in higher numbers

-I expect an extension of FW in 2015 with larger capacities and the sale of products at GW in 2016


So we've heard much of this before, so let's take these in turn.

Think lots of salt is required....... lol


New GW CEO is internal Appointment @ 2014/11/16 19:03:57


Post by: Pacific


-More classic GW games (Epic, Mortheim, ...) should be released in "all-in-one" Boxed Sets with limited run (like Space Hulk)


This one makes me think the whole set of rumours is a flight of fancy. A, because the person can't spell 'Mordheim', and B because doing something like this would involve development & playtesting time, and take those people away from creating a new 40k codex. Also, if something sounds too good to be true then it probably is


New GW CEO is internal Appointment @ 2014/11/16 19:08:05


Post by: Wonderwolf


Yeah right. I can already imagine it.



Kirby: "Morning Kev. First day as CEO, feels good, doesn't it?
Kevin: "Damn right Tom. Feels awesome!!"
Kirby: "Anyhow... to business. As new CEO, it'll be your vision that will safe this company. Do you have a strategy in mind."
Kevin: "Sure Tom, we'll gonna re-do Epic as a limited edition next year!"
Kirby: "But..."
Kevin: "And Necromunda. Gotta do Necromunda."
Kirby: "But the releases for next year are done already."
Kevin: "Don't care. Also, Plastic Thunderhawk."
Kirby: "Whatever. If it makes you happy. But what about the retail chain? You have any plans for our logistics? Finance? Will we pay dividends next year? Do we increase or decrease staff levels?"
Kevin: "Do I look like some stupid accountant? Gotta make plastic Heresy stuff."

Kevin peels off Mission Impossible-mask, revealing his true identity as an undercover-BOLS-neckbeard, who infiltrated GW management.

Kirby: "But.... but... P/E Ratio? Cash Reserves? Regional expansions?"
Kevin: "muhahaha... and I've let BOLS know of all my secret plans. There is no stopping me now. We'll even be doing Mordheim..... *evil laughter*"

Exit devastated, crying Kirby.





New GW CEO is internal Appointment @ 2014/11/16 19:17:19


Post by: SilverDevilfish


 manrogue wrote:
Interesting rumour off BoLS regarding new CEO-

http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2014/11/rumors-gws-new-ceo-and-changes-ahead.html
] RUMORS: GW's New CEO and the Changes Ahead
Posted by Larry Vela at 11/16/2014 4 Comments

Games Workshop has a new CEO in place. Here's the latest on what the change will mean for the next year:



via Steve the Warboss 11-16-2014

After the reorganisation of the Managment, the replacement of Kirby and the switch of CEO, GW will have probably some more little changes in the assortment:

Look for these changes:

-The number of limited releases will increase

-More classic GW games (Epic, Mortheim, ...) should be released in "all-in-one" Boxed Sets with limited run (like Space Hulk)

-In contrast to rumors that have been wrong, there is internally a serious discussion of FW

-There are plans to integrate FW in the core assortment, how to be solved is not yet clear

The following is a speculation by me (The Source):

-Horus Heres is very successful, GW wants so sell FW-Products in their Stores and the Webpage to increase sales, but they don't know how FW will Produce their range in higher numbers

-I expect an extension of FW in 2015 with larger capacities and the sale of products at GW in 2016


So we've heard much of this before, so let's take these in turn.

Think lots of salt is required....... lol




I think this is an accurate amount of salt.


New GW CEO is internal Appointment @ 2014/11/16 20:01:21


Post by: Azreal13


Only if all the blue in the background is in fact the foot of a massive, blue, salt mountain.


New GW CEO is internal Appointment @ 2014/11/16 20:51:24


Post by: Tyr13


Re: Mortheim rather than Mordheim: That doesnt mean much. Could be a german source (it was sold as Mortheim in Germany, since "murderhome" mightve been a bit too... crass, I guess. <.< )


New GW CEO is internal Appointment @ 2014/11/16 23:01:58


Post by: ZebioLizard2


 Tyr13 wrote:
Re: Mortheim rather than Mordheim: That doesnt mean much. Could be a german source (it was sold as Mortheim in Germany, since "murderhome" mightve been a bit too... crass, I guess. <.< )


It certainly fits.


New GW CEO is internal Appointment @ 2014/11/17 06:13:18


Post by: davethepak


 Looky Likey wrote:
WayneTheGame wrote:
 Looky Likey wrote:
Its a shame that there isn't a suitable C level exec from a mid to large company out there who is a war gaming fan and willing to troll the GW recruitment process for this job. I'd have loved to have had insight to the GW interview process for this if they had obviously qualified people applying for the job who weren't the chosen one.


From what I read (it was hinted, not specifically stated) the guy from MasterMinis/PaintingBuddha applied for the position (the guy who is a huge miniatures geek and ex-CIO of Aldi). So it's not that people didn't, it's that GW made a dog and pony show when they knew they were going to promote from within.

EDIT: Actually, he says himself on his website that he applied for it:

Michael Bartels wrote:
And I actually applied for this position as I thought that my past experience as Global CIO in a world-wide operating retail business with over 4000 stores and over 20bn in sales, combined with 21+ years of being a hardcore hobbyist and being somewhat of a miniature industry expert would be skills they might look for. Alas, like many others I know of, I wasn't even invited for an interview Maybe those are not the skills they are looking for. *handmotion*
This is exactly what I was hoping for, somebody obviously qualified and willing to confirm how far they got. The average forumite isn't going to have enough of a quality CV to get anywhere near. This confirms my suspicion that they always knew who was going to get the job months ahead of time and all this talk of looking everywhere for the best and brightest was just that.

So they knew from the start they were hiring from within, because anyone sane would have hired this guy. Executive-level experience, retail experience, hobby geek. It has GW written all over it.


Just for the record, he was not the only qualified person who did not make it to an interview (I happen to personally know of another).

Regardless of the "The Board undertook a thorough process in selecting our new CEO...." I hope Roundtree does well - and he can actually embrace some of the (non rant) commentary going around the internet.
If that fails, I doubt he could do worse....


New GW CEO is internal Appointment @ 2014/11/21 07:23:32


Post by: manrogue


Another one of BoLS that i thought i would share just for giggles, would take with plenty of salt-
40K Rumors: Your Favorite Rules Format Returns!
Posted by Larry Vela at 11/20/2014 37 Comments

It's been barely 2 years and the latest rumors say 40K rules future is looking towards the past.



via Steve the Warboss:

-Shield of Baal: Leviathan (and all later releases Expansions for 40k) will return in Softcover.

-Armybooks, Codices and Suppliments will all come sometime next year in Softcover Versions with a lower price.



If this pans out, I have very high hopes for new CEO Kevin Roundtree. Decisions like this indicate a rolling back of the "all collectors all the time" presentation that 40K and WFB have become of late.

It reflects a business pragmatism that accepts the wide financial spectrum of the GW customerbase out there.

It acknowleges that yes there is a segment of the GW customerbase that indeed wants the ultra-elite leatherbound, scented with myrhh, gold-leafed editions of codices. BUT there are ALSO a lot of customers who want value priced rulebooks that allow them to put more of their hard earned cash into the fantastic GW models.

If true - It's a good move and I salute it.

Does make me chuckle.


New GW CEO is internal Appointment @ 2014/11/21 09:20:48


Post by: Herzlos


Whilst I look forward to (reasonably priced*) softcover books, none of that will have anything to do with the appointment of a new CEO, who doesn't start in his position for another 2 months.

It's hopefully just that the company have noticed a massive decline in sales and are trying to do something about it, and are actually getting the occasional thing correct.


*I had high hopes for the mini-rulebook as well, but was pretty disappointed there.