So, i recall a similar pledge a few years back, but never got news as to outcomes.

The idea here is to get most players who collect Adepta Sororitas armies to purchase a single model in order to show our support for GW, and entice them to update their Battle Sisters range.
The plan is very simple, and will simply work on the spread in Social media and gaming groups.

On the 4th of March 2015, i would kindly ask that you purchase THIS MODEL.
You may select an alternative, such as THIS or THIS.

The most important thing is to try and do this as close as you can to a selected time:
8am PST
10am CST
11am EST for the US

4pm GMT in the UK

5pm CET for most of Europe

Or the equivalent time in your time zone.

If you own an Adepta Sororitas army, that model will surely find a home and be useful. Even fully equipped collectors of AS could make use of this 1 model, and would show support for the cause. I know you might be happy with the amount of models you have, but this is a message that you want more attention given to your Faction.

The next step is simply to spread this message as far and wide as you can, and make the purchase on the stated date.
As a bonus, you may also send the following email, or an amended version of your own, to the following address: custserv@gwplc.com or uk.custserv@gwplc.com in conjunction with your order.



I do really want to emphasise on the fact that this petition will probably create some chaos for GW, but hopefully the spread of the campaign will provide them with warning, as i do not this to be a 'surprise', rather a evaluation of how many would support this cause.

Please spread the word, including translations and adaptations where necessary.

The model with the Storm Bolter isn't from 1997.

(/pedantry)

I'm not sure you can buy stuff as a protest. It'll just show that you'll still buy it.

More effective would be to send them a receipt for £400 worth of bolt action, explaining that it was money earmarked for sisters butyou got bored waiting and your sisters are now on ebay.

So you are protesting a lack of new models by buying the old models? And GW is supposed to take notice of what exactly? The fact that you are still giving them money even though you don't agree with their policies?

#bringbackourgirls

I wonder if the same will work on the Eldar jetbike? That kit is old enough to legally drink in the USA

Herzlos wrote:
I'm not sure you can buy stuff as a protest. It'll just show that you'll still buy it.

More effective would be to send them a receipt for £400 worth of bolt action, explaining that it was money earmarked for sisters butyou got bored waiting and your sisters are now on ebay.

PhantomViper wrote:
So you are protesting a lack of new models by buying the old models? And GW is supposed to take notice of what exactly? The fact that you are still giving them money even though you don't agree with their policies?

They're a hard-driving company. A peak in sales will be much more of a red flag than a simple complaint email... even if we all do it.
Plus, it's a benefit of having the model too.

PhantomViper wrote:
#bringbackourgirls

Spread the word!

Worked really well for that Dredd sequel...

What? They didn't make a Dredd sequel?

Oh.

Although I like the idea, I'm very very doubtful if enough people will actually join in on this...

It's a single model less than $10, and you have a month and a half to save for it. Hardly a huge imposition on anyone. Please, even if you personally don't want the model, join the appeal anyway for the sake of the people who want a new range!

You know what- I'm going to do this. I have less than zero need for any of those figures.

The majority of people, in any aspect of human endeavor, sit around, gripe, and say "no" while offering no real useful alternatives or action other than negativity.

The OP at least is trying something.

If it doesn't work, it doesn't work. But something was tried.

Thank you!

I'd prefer some inquisition box sets.

 Dr Mathias wrote:
You know what- I'm going to do this. I have less than zero need for any of those figures.

The majority of people, in any aspect of human endeavor, sit around, gripe, and say "no" while offering no real useful alternatives or action other than negativity.

The OP at least is trying something.

If it doesn't work, it doesn't work. But something was tried.

Yeah, thanks!

I know i'll barely skip 1 drink an evening or two to "save up" for this. For each of us this is pocket change, but at barely 20+ people, i am certain GW will be aware of interest. I just hope it does not cause them too much trouble...

 Furyou Miko wrote:
It's a single model less than $10, and you have a month and a half to save for it. Hardly a huge imposition on anyone. Please, even if you personally don't want the model, join the appeal anyway for the sake of the people who want a new range!

I'm just put off by the shipping adding on another 75% to the price... Having said that, I just posted this link to the page of my FLGS, and if I can find someone to split shipping costs with I'm in.

If you get it delivered to a nearby GW store it's free delivery.

 Furyou Miko wrote:
If you get it delivered to a nearby GW store it's free delivery.

Unless you don't have one of those

I'd do it, but I can't do anything purchase or hobby related on Wednesday. I'll do it on the weekend.

It would cost me 30 USD to get that one model. Even if I got it shipped to GW Wellington (the train tickets would cost the same as their shipping).

I wont be doing this, I mean if thats what they want to charge for one model, then I dont trust them to make a decent job on any new models anyway.

Good luck for those in a better location anyway.

 Dr Mathias wrote:
You know what- I'm going to do this. I have less than zero need for any of those figures.

The majority of people, in any aspect of human endeavor, sit around, gripe, and say "no" while offering no real useful alternatives or action other than negativity.

The OP at least is trying something.

If it doesn't work, it doesn't work. But something was tried.

Except the best alternative, an actual boycott of sales, has been mentioned, which is the same as sitting around saying "no" except when done en masse forces GW to take action. Unfortunately, too few people are actually willing to boycott GW to change anything, otherwise we'd likely have sisters already announced and prices might even be lower.

i bought a sister model years ago. Painted it up in green armor and gave it red hair (to match my ex wife's hair and favorite color. It was "much appreciated and wellll put me on her good side for a good while )

Organizing a boycott would be a worthwhile action, but would require people standing outside game stores with placards, an aggressive Internet campaign, and a hell of a lot of people on board.

When people complain "too much" about GW doing this and that I usually tell them to vote with their wallets, which is what I do.

No offense intended, but to give them money as an act of complaint must be one of the most stupid things I've ever read.

If I were a GW executive I would be rolling around the floor while laughing histerically after reading this thread.

As a Sisters player, I can respect what you're trying to do. But TBH, I want different things than you. I don't want plastics, I want them to bring back all the metal options they took from us. I don't want a new codex, I want a dataslate that gives us new formations and a LOW. I don't want an army that anyone can replicate with a one-click bundle, I want Sistersto be a little special.

In short, give me a little more variety, then go back to leaving me alone

PhantomViper wrote:
So you are protesting a lack of new models by buying the old models? And GW is supposed to take notice of what exactly? The fact that you are still giving them money even though you don't agree with their policies?

This would demonstrate that there is still interest in the SoB, presumably.

Though, sorry to be negative, but I doubt it'll achieve much. They (should) already know there's interest in the Sisters from all of those digital codex sales. My personal feeling is that GW has decided (one way or the other) on what they're going to do with the Sisters anyway.


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 the_Armyman wrote:
I want them to bring back all the metal options they took from us. I don't want a new codex, I want a dataslate that gives us new formations and a LOW. I don't want an army that anyone can replicate with a one-click bundle, I want Sistersto be a little special.

As special as that may sound, that wouldn't exactly sell them too well to the wider hobby. Can't put dataslates and metal models into a store.

I like this idea. I'm in, hope it works!!

 the_Armyman wrote:
As a Sisters player, I can respect what you're trying to do. But TBH, I want different things than you. I don't want plastics, I want them to bring back all the metal options they took from us. I don't want a new codex, I want a dataslate that gives us new formations and a LOW. I don't want an army that anyone can replicate with a one-click bundle, I want Sistersto be a little special.

In short, give me a little more variety, then go back to leaving me alone

Sorry to rain on your parade but financially metal isn't practical anymore. Plus it's not a great material for models. It doesn't like holding paint, it falls apart easilly and it makes some models basically impossible (Penitent Engine, old school Dreadnoughts, Thunderfire Cannon). Plastic is the best thing for the army. Not only that it brings the cost down and makes us more available to newer players, meaning more frequent updates and new kits.

It's nice to sit there and go "I want to be special" but frankly you're cutting your asking for the army to be shot in the knees right before an Olympic race, it just ain't going to go too well.

 ClockworkZion wrote:

 the_Armyman wrote:
As a Sisters player, I can respect what you're trying to do. But TBH, I want different things than you. I don't want plastics, I want them to bring back all the metal options they took from us. I don't want a new codex, I want a dataslate that gives us new formations and a LOW. I don't want an army that anyone can replicate with a one-click bundle, I want Sistersto be a little special.

In short, give me a little more variety, then go back to leaving me alone

Sorry to rain on your parade but financially metal isn't practical anymore. Plus it's not a great material for models. It doesn't like holding paint, it falls apart easilly and it makes some models basically impossible (Penitent Engine, old school Dreadnoughts, Thunderfire Cannon). Plastic is the best thing for the army. Not only that it brings the cost down and makes us more available to newer players, meaning more frequent updates and new kits.

I disagree with almost all of your assertions. I have hundreds of metal models. None of them are shabby, nicked-up, crumbling heaps. I'm also sorry that GW finds itself in a position where metal is no longer financially viable. I value metal minis and work with their limitations. I like plastic, and work within its limitations. I care not for making the army "more available to new players." If metal is scary, may I suggest Space Marines?

It's nice to sit there and go "I want to be special" but frankly you're cutting your asking for the army to be shot in the knees right before an Olympic race, it just ain't going to go too well.

What's the harm in the status quo? I asked for a few improvements I'd like to see be made, but I do not have confidence in GW's rules-writing team that I would welcome a new codex at this time. Rather than risk a complete hatchet-job, let sleeping dogs lie.

A lot of companies are finding metal to be financially unviable these days, not just GW.

And you're being an elitist. It's that attitude of "feth everyone else, I got mine" that doesn't actually help the army. You want cheaper models? You're getting plastic. You don't like plastic? Then you have eBay for all the old stuff that will still be for sale when the plastic drops.

Status quo is why our basic troop choice costs $90 USD for 10 models. You don't want status quo though, you want models to be cheaper. You aren't getting that if they stay in metal.

And we're just going to see more hatchet jobs as we continue to lose models. We already lost the Seraphim Superior and Kyrinov (who is completely out of the codex now). How many more do you think we'll lose if we don't get an update with new models?

We're running out of models and trying to jealously guard them from anyone who won't drop $200+ dollars for an HQ and 2 Troop choices is childish. You're not being realistic and you're demanding the unreasonable.

If you can get maybe 1000+ people globally to do it you might make some noise. Any less than that and I don't even think it would be a blip on their radar. The only way it might be noticed with less people than that is someone in the warehouse noticing they're run out of melta sisters in multiple warehouses.

GW sell roughly $450,000 USD of product per day on average, once you consider a decent portion of that goes to independents it translates to about $550,000 of stock at retail price, supposedly about half of that is 40k, so $275,000. If you get 100 people to buy a $17 model, it's only going to be $1700 of models... they're not even going to notice that, a single new player could rack up that much revenue in a day. If you get 1000 people to do it they might notice that revenue was up by 6% on one particular day.

I'd start getting people to actually go to game stores and clubs and spread the word and get your numbers up in to the thousands.

That said... I won't be doing it, so best of luck to you.

 ClockworkZion wrote:
You're not being realistic and you're demanding the unreasonable.

I don't think it's terribly unreasonable to expect things to remain the same with a couple of small updates. It might be unrealistic because it's not the way GW work, but I don't think it's unreasonable. Metal (or resin) is the perfect material for just adding a few poses and keeping a range going instead of converting to plastic. It's reasonably cheap to do small runs.

Saying the models should never be updated and old ones returned despite it being phased out due to cost is unrealistic.

Plus it means keeping models in metal that would do a LOT better in plastic (Exorcist and Penitent Engine).

The army needs an update. The models are old, the technology today has shown that they could be a LOT better and in a material that'd work better with players both new and old. Plus if we're arguing nostalgia as a reason to keep the old ones, well, frankly we're being unreasonable.

Or he could just like the metal models more than he wants to risk getting plastic ones he doesn't like. There's a pile of 90's metals across various armies that I prefer to the current plastic versions. I never said it wasn't unrealistic because of GW's business practice, but I don't think it's unreasonable. It costs very little to maintain a range of metals or resins and it doesn't cost a whole lot to add models to a metal or resin range.

Saying the range should stay 100% unchanged (aka the "status quo" that he also wants to break with cheaper models) so it can stay in metal [b]is[/b[ unreasonable.

I have nothing against people who prefer the old models. I have something against people saying to never bother trying to improve things though. Technology has gotten better over the years, the tooling is smaller and the design on a lot of models has gotten better. Saying that we shouldn't even try is frankly silly.

I'm sorry but I'm not really seeing where it is unreasonable to think the current models are fine and not to want them updated.

Also you were the one talking about cheaper, I don't think it was even mentioned until you brought it up.

AllSeeingSkink wrote:
I'm sorry but I'm not really seeing where it is unreasonable to think the current models are fine and not to want them updated.

Also you were the one talking about cheaper, I don't think it was even mentioned until you brought it up.

No, he brought it up first. He wanted the existing range unchanged, but add back the missing models and make it cheaper.

And go build a Penitent Engine and tell me the current models a "fine". That monstrosity of a kit NEEDS to be in plastic.

 ClockworkZion wrote:

AllSeeingSkink wrote:
I'm sorry but I'm not really seeing where it is unreasonable to think the current models are fine and not to want them updated.

Also you were the one talking about cheaper, I don't think it was even mentioned until you brought it up.

No, he brought it up first. He wanted the existing range unchanged, but add back the missing models and make it cheaper.

Where did I say that? I never mentioned price or cost in any of my posts. Just restore the range to what it once was by bringing back the alternate poses. Also, this attitude that metal is impossible to work with is a myth. It just takes some care and forethought. Everything worth doing usually does.

And go build a Penitent Engine and tell me the current models a "fine". That monstrosity of a kit NEEDS to be in plastic.

You can say I'm unreasonable all you want. Skink has it correct: I prefer metals to plastics. I had a pure Grey Knights army in metal when they were the Daemonhunters codex. Those "beautiful" plastics came out with the 5E codex. You know how many boxed sets I bought? None. The GK plastics are ugly. On top of that, they came out with that ridiculous Dreadknight, Castellan Crowe (beautiful sculpt, daft rules), and Purifiers.

You can call me elitist, if that classification makes you feel better. As long as you don't come crying to me when your dream of an army update comes true and they axe more existing units, create new units that contradict 20 years of fluff, and go all "Murderfang, Murderclaws, Murderlust" on your favorite army.

So, as not to derail the thread for the OP any further, I'll remain silent now.

Sorry, you're right. You wanted more variety. Something you won't get in metal. Especially since some of those "axed units" never had models (ex. Zealots).

And I'm not rookie with metal models, but there is a reason there is a section in one of my GW painting books that covers repairing your paint job on metal models. There is also a lot of extra work you need to do with pinning and green stuff to make some models work. It's not a friendly resource, it makes trying to create any kind of custom models incredibly hard.

So you can keep your metal models, I look forward to seeing the army in a form I can do a lot more with.

Sure, I could get in on this. Besides, a sisters army would be kinda nice anyway, so if this will help get plastics out then I'm all for it.

 ClockworkZion wrote:
Something you won't get in metal.

Only because of GW's current business model. Metals are actually great for variety because the set up costs are lower. Look at all the old Imperial Guard regiments, heaps of variety thanks to metal, no way you'd have that much variety in plastic. Look at historics, for years they've had tons of variety primarily in metal.

AllSeeingSkink wrote:

 ClockworkZion wrote:
Something you won't get in metal.

Only because of GW's current business model. Metals are actually great for variety because the set up costs are lower. Look at all the old Imperial Guard regiments, heaps of variety thanks to metal, no way you'd have that much variety in plastic. Look at historics, for years they've had tons of variety primarily in metal.

Look at Privateer Press who has mostly moved away from metal in favor of a plastic resin.

And if you argued with the old plastics I'd agree, but with how crisp lines get on the current plastic kits and how detailed GW has made models with it I have to disagree. The only limits to your model poses now aren't the way it came in a blister but instead the limits of your own imagination and ability to repose things.

It's a waste of time, I hope you realize. GW will do a new codex or models when it feels like it. Just doing an action like this doesn't mean the army still has overall appeal. I heard people keep saying they'll somehow get GW to make Squats again, but the important thing to note is that it's a VERY specific niche. Quite frankly, you're even lucky you HAVE a codex and models.

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
It's a waste of time, I hope you realize. GW will do a new codex or models when it feels like it. Just doing an action like this doesn't mean the army still has overall appeal. I heard people keep saying they'll somehow get GW to make Squats again, but the important thing to note is that it's a VERY specific niche. Quite frankly, you're even lucky you HAVE a codex and models.

Thanks for the contribution but that's the same bs argument people made about Dark Eldar. Same for Grey Knights. Just because it's not popular NOW doesn't mean there isn't a market there or overall appeal for people to play the army.

So yeah, you can take you fallacious argument back now, because no one is buying.

 ClockworkZion wrote:

AllSeeingSkink wrote:

 ClockworkZion wrote:
Something you won't get in metal.

Only because of GW's current business model. Metals are actually great for variety because the set up costs are lower. Look at all the old Imperial Guard regiments, heaps of variety thanks to metal, no way you'd have that much variety in plastic. Look at historics, for years they've had tons of variety primarily in metal.

Look at Privateer Press who has mostly moved away from metal in favor of a plastic resin.

And if you argued with the old plastics I'd agree, but with how crisp lines get on the current plastic kits and how detailed GW has made models with it I have to disagree. The only limits to your model poses now aren't the way it came in a blister but instead the limits of your own imagination and ability to repose things.

I never mentioned crispness or detail, I was imply talking about variety. I guess it depends how you define variety. I find most multipose plastics only go together a couple of different ways if you want them to look natural. I prefer a model that's in a single pose but that pose is well constructed and natural than having multipose where any pose tends to look a bit off. Most my favourite models are monopose. In that context, metal is fine for variety.

There are other reasons to go plastic, like having a larger production run and trying to sell more kits, but for a very niche product, metal has it's advantages over plastic.

 ClockworkZion wrote:

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
It's a waste of time, I hope you realize. GW will do a new codex or models when it feels like it. Just doing an action like this doesn't mean the army still has overall appeal. I heard people keep saying they'll somehow get GW to make Squats again, but the important thing to note is that it's a VERY specific niche. Quite frankly, you're even lucky you HAVE a codex and models.

Thanks for the contribution but that's the same bs argument people made about Dark Eldar. Same for Grey Knights. Just because it's not popular NOW doesn't mean there isn't a market there or overall appeal for people to play the army.

So yeah, you can take you fallacious argument back now, because no one is buying.

...Do you honestly believe those armies are very popular?

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:

 ClockworkZion wrote:

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
It's a waste of time, I hope you realize. GW will do a new codex or models when it feels like it. Just doing an action like this doesn't mean the army still has overall appeal. I heard people keep saying they'll somehow get GW to make Squats again, but the important thing to note is that it's a VERY specific niche. Quite frankly, you're even lucky you HAVE a codex and models.

Thanks for the contribution but that's the same bs argument people made about Dark Eldar. Same for Grey Knights. Just because it's not popular NOW doesn't mean there isn't a market there or overall appeal for people to play the army.

So yeah, you can take you fallacious argument back now, because no one is buying.

...Do you honestly believe those armies are very popular?

A lot more popular than you do. Dark Eldar was so popular on their launch that their second wave got moved up by a whole year. If you don't think that's popular I can't help you because you're obviously insane.

I'm not a big believer in petitions or that style, but what the hey, I'll support this. If nothing else, it's a fun new thing for me to try to paint.

Big ups.

You're going to teach GW that old, overly expensive models DO sell and it will not encourage them to do anything but keep doing what they're doing.

Not buying them is the only thing that they will notice. (with proper notification to GW on why.)

 MWHistorian wrote:
You're going to teach GW that old, overly expensive models DO sell and it will not encourage them to do anything but keep doing what they're doing.

Not buying them is the only thing that they will notice. (with proper notification to GW on why.)

OR it will tell them that there is a significant market for the product line and that there exists a sizable demand for models, which, if there were to supply with even a few new plastic kits, could generate them a hefty profit, far more than they could expect if they maintain the range as it is.

If you want someone to invest in something then the best idea to get them to do so is probably to show them that their investment would be worthwhile. Nobody invests in something that they don't expect will make money.

 Stonebeard wrote:

 MWHistorian wrote:
You're going to teach GW that old, overly expensive models DO sell and it will not encourage them to do anything but keep doing what they're doing.

Not buying them is the only thing that they will notice. (with proper notification to GW on why.)

OR it will tell them that there is a significant market for the product line and that there exists a sizable demand for models, which, if there were to supply with even a few new plastic kits, could generate them a hefty profit, far more than they could expect if they maintain the range as it is.

If you want someone to invest in something then the best idea to get them to do so is probably to show them that their investment would be worthwhile. Nobody invests in something that they don't expect will make money.

And the sales of the SOB codex didn't tell them? It was one of the top downloaded books that month on iTunes. That should have been a clue.

If it was a clue and they're doing a proper Sisters update now and this just nets everyone a model they may have been planning on buying anyways.

 MWHistorian wrote:

 Stonebeard wrote:

 MWHistorian wrote:
You're going to teach GW that old, overly expensive models DO sell and it will not encourage them to do anything but keep doing what they're doing.

Not buying them is the only thing that they will notice. (with proper notification to GW on why.)

OR it will tell them that there is a significant market for the product line and that there exists a sizable demand for models, which, if there were to supply with even a few new plastic kits, could generate them a hefty profit, far more than they could expect if they maintain the range as it is.

If you want someone to invest in something then the best idea to get them to do so is probably to show them that their investment would be worthwhile. Nobody invests in something that they don't expect will make money.

And the sales of the SOB codex didn't tell them? It was one of the top downloaded books that month on iTunes. That should have been a clue.

More positive reinforcement is rarely a bad thing.

 Stonebeard wrote:

 MWHistorian wrote:

 Stonebeard wrote:

 MWHistorian wrote:
You're going to teach GW that old, overly expensive models DO sell and it will not encourage them to do anything but keep doing what they're doing.

Not buying them is the only thing that they will notice. (with proper notification to GW on why.)

OR it will tell them that there is a significant market for the product line and that there exists a sizable demand for models, which, if there were to supply with even a few new plastic kits, could generate them a hefty profit, far more than they could expect if they maintain the range as it is.

If you want someone to invest in something then the best idea to get them to do so is probably to show them that their investment would be worthwhile. Nobody invests in something that they don't expect will make money.

And the sales of the SOB codex didn't tell them? It was one of the top downloaded books that month on iTunes. That should have been a clue.

More positive reinforcement is rarely a bad thing.

Unless you're reinforcing a wrong behavior. Like giving a treat to a dog that poos on the carpet. It will only teach them to keep pooing on the carpet.

 ClockworkZion wrote:
If it was a clue and they're doing a proper Sisters update now and this just nets everyone a model they may have been planning on buying anyways.

Well if they're doing a proper update now anyway what's the point in wasting money buying an old model that may or may not match the aesthetics of the new models and will probably have a cheaper plastic alternative soon?

 MWHistorian wrote:

 Stonebeard wrote:

 MWHistorian wrote:

 Stonebeard wrote:

 MWHistorian wrote:
You're going to teach GW that old, overly expensive models DO sell and it will not encourage them to do anything but keep doing what they're doing.

Not buying them is the only thing that they will notice. (with proper notification to GW on why.)

OR it will tell them that there is a significant market for the product line and that there exists a sizable demand for models, which, if there were to supply with even a few new plastic kits, could generate them a hefty profit, far more than they could expect if they maintain the range as it is.

If you want someone to invest in something then the best idea to get them to do so is probably to show them that their investment would be worthwhile. Nobody invests in something that they don't expect will make money.

And the sales of the SOB codex didn't tell them? It was one of the top downloaded books that month on iTunes. That should have been a clue.

More positive reinforcement is rarely a bad thing.

Unless you're reinforcing a wrong behavior. Like giving a treat to a dog that poos on the carpet. It will only teach them to keep pooing on the carpet.

It's a targeted treat with a specified message. Thousands (or a few dozen, probably) of individuals purchasing one copy of the same miniature on the same complete with a message to the company detailing the "why" behind it? Honestly, if they come out of that saying, "Gee golly gosh, they must love the entirety of the current range every so much that we couldn't possibly increase our sales by providing them with a new rang,even though these sales were clearly the result of a targeted campaign aimed aimed specifically to deliver that message," then there is nothing that anyone can do to change anything.

AllSeeingSkink wrote:

 ClockworkZion wrote:
If it was a clue and they're doing a proper Sisters update now and this just nets everyone a model they may have been planning on buying anyways.

Well if they're doing a proper update now anyway what's the point in wasting money buying an old model that may or may not match the aesthetics of the new models and will probably have a cheaper plastic alternative soon?

Because we don't know if they are and are trying to get their attention doesn't hurt.

 ClockworkZion wrote:

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:

 ClockworkZion wrote:

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
It's a waste of time, I hope you realize. GW will do a new codex or models when it feels like it. Just doing an action like this doesn't mean the army still has overall appeal. I heard people keep saying they'll somehow get GW to make Squats again, but the important thing to note is that it's a VERY specific niche. Quite frankly, you're even lucky you HAVE a codex and models.

Thanks for the contribution but that's the same bs argument people made about Dark Eldar. Same for Grey Knights. Just because it's not popular NOW doesn't mean there isn't a market there or overall appeal for people to play the army.

So yeah, you can take you fallacious argument back now, because no one is buying.

...Do you honestly believe those armies are very popular?

A lot more popular than you do. Dark Eldar was so popular on their launch that their second wave got moved up by a whole year. If you don't think that's popular I can't help you because you're obviously insane.

Probably when GW thought it would make more money; you have to be smart about when to do waves. Doesn't stop them from being overall unpopular, seeing as in a majority of forums they have less threads, subforums, and army lists than any other army, being above Sisters of course.
It's purely the fanboy in you at that point that thinks this'll work. As I said, just be thankful you have a codex in the first place. They could just kill the army for all I care, and the only people that'll be upset would be the Sisters players, and even then some might be thankful for putting the army out of its misery.

Fangirl thank you.

And seriously, I've seen a LOT of people who want to at least get some Sisters allies but don't want $100+ for even that.

And if you don't care about Sisters why are you in a Sisters thread? Just trying to troll for a reason to press the yellow triangle of friendship on others?

I'm gonna be honest, while I agree with Dr. Mathias that at least BlackTalos is trying something, buying items in protest of said items and their price is ridiculous. All GW will see is that people are still buying their models even at the truly absurd price they're selling them at. I bought my Sororitas secondhand, and I've already vowed not to buy a single model for that army retail from GW. I'm sick of them thinking they can just up the price whenever they damn well please and expect us all to go along with it. 90 dollars for a squad of BSS? Please. Counts-as or Craigslist for me, thank you very much.

Let me be clear in that I think your intentions are good, BlackTalos. I would love to see plastic Sororitas. But buying their overpriced metal minis only tells them that people will still buy them, regardless of how badly the army is being treated/priced.

 ClockworkZion wrote:
Fangirl thank you.

I thought you were this guy:

If metal is such a financially unviable material, I'd like someone to explain me why some small companies out there are releasing nicely sculpted, well detailed multipart metal kits with 10 models for 25€.

OK, if you want to talk bout the viability of metal, please make another thread rather than derailing this one.

I'm curious, have any petitions to GW ever actually worked?

 angelofvengeance wrote:
I'm curious, have any petitions to GW ever actually worked?

Not that I know of. I've always believed the suits at GW spin a wheel & see what the outcome is when making decisions for future releases. 99% of the wheel is raise prices, ignore community feedback, re-release near identical codices/rulebook for 10% more than the previous material, impose further restrictions on FLGS to put them out of business, release models that no one asked for, release new rules for models that haven't been profitable with rules that are worse than the original etc. The 1% consists of real radical change & actually attempting to revive the hobby. It hasn't landed on the 1% mark since 3rd edition.

AllSeeingSkink wrote:
If you can get maybe 1000+ people globally to do it you might make some noise. Any less than that and I don't even think it would be a blip on their radar. The only way it might be noticed with less people than that is someone in the warehouse noticing they're run out of melta sisters in multiple warehouses.

GW sell roughly $450,000 USD of product per day on average, once you consider a decent portion of that goes to independents it translates to about $550,000 of stock at retail price, supposedly about half of that is 40k, so $275,000. If you get 100 people to buy a $17 model, it's only going to be $1700 of models... they're not even going to notice that, a single new player could rack up that much revenue in a day. If you get 1000 people to do it they might notice that revenue was up by 6% on one particular day.

I'd start getting people to actually go to game stores and clubs and spread the word and get your numbers up in to the thousands.

That said... I won't be doing it, so best of luck to you.

 ClockworkZion wrote:
You're not being realistic and you're demanding the unreasonable.

I don't think it's terribly unreasonable to expect things to remain the same with a couple of small updates. It might be unrealistic because it's not the way GW work, but I don't think it's unreasonable. Metal (or resin) is the perfect material for just adding a few poses and keeping a range going instead of converting to plastic. It's reasonably cheap to do small runs.

 MWHistorian wrote:
You're going to teach GW that old, overly expensive models DO sell and it will not encourage them to do anything but keep doing what they're doing.

Not buying them is the only thing that they will notice. (with proper notification to GW on why.)

 SweaterKittens wrote:
I'm gonna be honest, while I agree with Dr. Mathias that at least BlackTalos is trying something, buying items in protest of said items and their price is ridiculous. All GW will see is that people are still buying their models even at the truly absurd price they're selling them at. I bought my Sororitas secondhand, and I've already vowed not to buy a single model for that army retail from GW. I'm sick of them thinking they can just up the price whenever they damn well please and expect us all to go along with it. 90 dollars for a squad of BSS? Please. Counts-as or Craigslist for me, thank you very much.

Let me be clear in that I think your intentions are good, BlackTalos. I would love to see plastic Sororitas. But buying their overpriced metal minis only tells them that people will still buy them, regardless of how badly the army is being treated/priced.

Thing is, has anyone actually bought a metal Sister recently? Or even knows someone who did?
"Buying old makes them think they still sell".
Not a 1-off, 1-day, 1-time purchase all at the same time won't... Especially if only 1 Sister sells everyday (Or is it even less now?)

You call out massive sales of "$450,000 USD of product per day on average". How many Sister of battle are part of that?
Sure, they won't notice the money, but they'll notice a specific peak, at the 1 time of day.

I did not want to be mean either, but what if they have 200 Orders on a specific day that they cannot fulfil? Because 300 other orders dried up their metal Sisters stock?
Along those line, i'd be more than happy with numbers in the 500s, and within 2 days it looks like we might not be too far from 200 or 300 already


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Commissar Benny wrote:

 angelofvengeance wrote:
I'm curious, have any petitions to GW ever actually worked?

Not that I know of. I've always believed the suits at GW spin a wheel & see what the outcome is when making decisions for future releases. 99% of the wheel is raise prices, ignore community feedback, re-release near identical codices/rulebook for 10% more than the previous material, impose further restrictions on FLGS to put them out of business, release models that no one asked for, release new rules for models that haven't been profitable with rules that are worse than the original etc. The 1% consists of real radical change & actually attempting to revive the hobby. It hasn't landed on the 1% mark since 3rd edition.

I've barely heard of 1 petition in the past, and it was for Sisters, similar to this but buying a shrine model nobody really wanted....

 ClockworkZion wrote:
If it was a clue and they're doing a proper Sisters update now and this just nets everyone a model they may have been planning on buying anyways.

That's the baseline. Almost all the people i've heard pledge will make use of the model, even if plastic does come out (still very doubtful)

 BlackTalos wrote:
You call out massive sales of "$450,000 USD of product per day on average". How many Sister of battle are part of that?
Sure, they won't notice the money, but they'll notice a specific peak, at the 1 time of day.

The guy in the warehouse packaging them might notice... you'd have to be lucky if that got up the chain unless it was more than just "oh for some random reason a few people bought Sister's today... oh well, off they go" and more like "wow, we had a substantial increase in sales of sisters on that day". The latter is going to require a decent number of people getting on board, which judging by the response on this forum alone probably isn't likely

AllSeeingSkink wrote:

 BlackTalos wrote:
You call out massive sales of "$450,000 USD of product per day on average". How many Sister of battle are part of that?
Sure, they won't notice the money, but they'll notice a specific peak, at the 1 time of day.

The guy in the warehouse packaging them might notice... you'd have to be lucky if that got up the chain unless it was more than just "oh for some random reason a few people bought Sister's today... oh well, off they go" and more like "wow, we had a substantial increase in sales of sisters on that day". The latter is going to require a decent number of people getting on board, which judging by the response on this forum alone probably isn't likely

Or all the guys in the Warehouses contacting HQ at the same time:
"Hey, i'm out of this sister model and i need it for another 20 orders..."
You'd only need about 10 of those calls from warehouses and it will be flagged over at HQ.

Also, i agree the amount of responses here are low, but definitely positive. And this is one with the least responses

I could be wrong but I doubt GW HQ has anything much to do with it. The guys in the warehouses run out they probably contact a main warehouse and if the main warehouse runs out they order more to be cast. To actually get anyone in a decision making position to take notice it will take more than a hundred or two orders across the globe.

I think a letter-writing campaign might do more than simply buying metal models, for one you'd get a lot more people (even those that aren't part of the Sisterhood), especially considering the logistical problems and cost of buying the metal figures.

And secondly you don't have potential issues with literally buying all their stock (maybe there's only like 25 in the store?) or feeding them money for a super old product that makes them think they don't have to update it.

I'm pro-plastic for all models. I think GW should go redo all their metal models in plastic and as much as I hate Sisters fans (sorry, a lot of you guys are super annoying, I'm sure there's mostly good apples I'm just used to seeing bad ones) they deserve to have their basic army cost reduced massively and have access to models that don't look like gak.

I hate those old stumpy model-styles so badly. Phoenix Lords need redone too.

Set us up a template email to spam GW with and I'm sure it'll do wonders compared to this. This is just going to cause a small dent that's nearly indistinguishable from a guy who likes Sisters and has too much money buying a gak ton of them out of nowhere and you're hurting your cause by adding a monetary restriction.

GW isn't moving >450K in product sales per day.

To put that in perspective, that's higher than your average single Costco store.

 Shadowclaimer wrote:
I think a letter-writing campaign might do more than simply buying metal models, for one you'd get a lot more people (even those that aren't part of the Sisterhood), especially considering the logistical problems and cost of buying the metal figures.

And secondly you don't have potential issues with literally buying all their stock (maybe there's only like 25 in the store?) or feeding them money for a super old product that makes them think they don't have to update it.

I'm pro-plastic for all models. I think GW should go redo all their metal models in plastic and as much as I hate Sisters fans (sorry, a lot of you guys are super annoying, I'm sure there's mostly good apples I'm just used to seeing bad ones) they deserve to have their basic army cost reduced massively and have access to models that don't look like gak.

I hate those old stumpy model-styles so badly. Phoenix Lords need redone too.

Set us up a template email to spam GW with and I'm sure it'll do wonders compared to this. This is just going to cause a small dent that's nearly indistinguishable from a guy who likes Sisters and has too much money buying a gak ton of them out of nowhere and you're hurting your cause by adding a monetary restriction.

The email "spam" is part of the purchase. It's in the first post.
But that just seems like a rather rude/demanding thing to do, compared to actually spending spare change on letting them know. (Positive reinforcement of the demand)

Regardless, it has a month and some to spread. Decision making people will get wind of it, if they have not already...

 ncshooter426 wrote:
GW isn't moving >450K in product sales per day.

GW reported 123.5 million revenue GBP last financial year. That translates to an average of ~$500k USD per day, of which we know (from the chapterhouse case) 40k is supposedly about half of that.

 BlackTalos wrote:

 Shadowclaimer wrote:
I think a letter-writing campaign might do more than simply buying metal models, for one you'd get a lot more people (even those that aren't part of the Sisterhood), especially considering the logistical problems and cost of buying the metal figures.

And secondly you don't have potential issues with literally buying all their stock (maybe there's only like 25 in the store?) or feeding them money for a super old product that makes them think they don't have to update it.

I'm pro-plastic for all models. I think GW should go redo all their metal models in plastic and as much as I hate Sisters fans (sorry, a lot of you guys are super annoying, I'm sure there's mostly good apples I'm just used to seeing bad ones) they deserve to have their basic army cost reduced massively and have access to models that don't look like gak.

I hate those old stumpy model-styles so badly. Phoenix Lords need redone too.

Set us up a template email to spam GW with and I'm sure it'll do wonders compared to this. This is just going to cause a small dent that's nearly indistinguishable from a guy who likes Sisters and has too much money buying a gak ton of them out of nowhere and you're hurting your cause by adding a monetary restriction.

The email "spam" is part of the purchase. It's in the first post.
But that just seems like a rather rude/demanding thing to do, compared to actually spending spare change on letting them know. (Positive reinforcement of the demand)

Regardless, it has a month and some to spread. Decision making people will get wind of it, if they have not already...

Email campaigns are done for tons of stuff, its not really rude/demanding to show there is a market.

I know tons of players personally who won't buy Sisters or think they're silly mostly because their models looks terrible. They have potential, major potential, but GW needs to know there's a market for a redo. A small nudge of a couple hundred metal sisters at best isn't really going to do much towards it.

There's rumors of a redo coming in June anyway, here's to hoping.

Yeah, i've heard the rumours, but all point to a new Codex, with knowledge that Masters have been made for the models. If they ever release them we'll never know. But the petition might help with that too...

Nothing is stopping people from doing an email petition to GW addresses at the same time and without purchase...

Anything would help and i'm sure all the players participating will agree to be grateful for any help

I'm not a Bolter Beaches collector, but I might join in.

So what if this campaign is so successful that GW completely runs out of stock of that flamer model? This causes GW to take notice and they respond by releasing a new digital Adepta Sororitas codex! Yay!!!

Except the new codex removes the option to take flamers because now there's no model for it...

Lol, yeah, thing is we will never know what this will do, or not do, at all.

But that should not dissuade the attempt, plus about 50% of the people doing this just want the model

After this project, or maybe even at the same time, I suggest we organize a letter campaign to the GW design team members, each letter sealed with an old fashioned melted wax seal.

After reading through the new Sisters codex, if they get a full new model line I would actually play them.

Give me Celestian Squads, Dominion/Retributors duo kit, Battle Sisters, and Seraphim Squads, all in plastic. The new artwork for Sisters looks so much better than the old designs and the stumpy models too.

They say a hand written letter is worth a thousand emails.

I think that if you could get 1000 people to post a letter, to arrive roughly at the same time at GW HQ, you would have a lot more impact than buying minis online.

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

 ClockworkZion wrote:
Fangirl thank you.

I thought you were this guy:

I'm also trans (and have known for years), lost the beard (which was only grown because I suffering under a bout of depression and didn't even feel up to doing something as simple as shaving) and am on finally hormones transition. Sorry for not making a giant announcement on it.

Oh, okay. Sorry. Hope your depression is finished . Will use the right pronoun now then.

 ClockworkZion wrote:
Fangirl thank you.

And seriously, I've seen a LOT of people who want to at least get some Sisters allies but don't want $100+ for even that.

And if you don't care about Sisters why are you in a Sisters thread? Just trying to troll for a reason to press the yellow triangle of friendship on others?

1. Fanboy is a term. Don't care what you are on the other side of the screen. I use the same descriptor.
2. Why would anybody really want to ally them in the first place? Scions do the same job for a better price. I'm curious to see what you mean by "a LOT" as well. The OP already struggles to make this supposed campaign happen. The market isn't as large as you think it is.
3. I'm here because this is a forum and therefore I'm going to post opinions.

Fanboy is a derived term for a male fangirl, however, so... it's not really correct to use it in that fashion. Technically, by your logic, you should call everyone - even the males - fangirls.

Scions do the same job better? Scions are completely different. There is literally no role overlap between deep-striking, medium-armour lasgunners with an AP boost and mob-handed, heavy-armour melta caddies.

AllSeeingSkink wrote:

 ncshooter426 wrote:
GW isn't moving >450K in product sales per day.

GW reported 123.5 million revenue GBP last financial year. That translates to an average of ~$500k USD per day, of which we know (from the chapterhouse case) 40k is supposedly about half of that.

That's total. Their IP leasing makes up a good chunk of their income last time I checked (all the 40k digital franchise stuff, and TW:WH upcoming game). I will check their balance sheet for FY14 if I can find it.

 ncshooter426 wrote:

AllSeeingSkink wrote:

 ncshooter426 wrote:
GW isn't moving >450K in product sales per day.

GW reported 123.5 million revenue GBP last financial year. That translates to an average of ~$500k USD per day, of which we know (from the chapterhouse case) 40k is supposedly about half of that.

That's total. Their IP leasing makes up a good chunk of their income last time I checked (all the 40k digital franchise stuff, and TW:WH upcoming game). I will check their balance sheet for FY14 if I can find it.

Royalties are just 1.4m GBP / year.

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
The OP already struggles to make this supposed campaign happen. The market isn't as large as you think it is.

From attention on this 1 single forum? Which also currently holds a fair number of "views" for a 24h existence?
I guess you haven't been around the other forums, or the Facebook main groups?

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
Oh, okay. Sorry. Hope your depression is finished . Will use the right pronoun now then.

It's helped a lot. I haven't felt this good in a looooooooooooong while. The mood swings while the hormone levels balance out aren't too bad, but still not fun.


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Slayer-Fan123 wrote:

 ClockworkZion wrote:
Fangirl thank you.

And seriously, I've seen a LOT of people who want to at least get some Sisters allies but don't want $100+ for even that.

And if you don't care about Sisters why are you in a Sisters thread? Just trying to troll for a reason to press the yellow triangle of friendship on others?

1. Fanboy is a term. Don't care what you are on the other side of the screen. I use the same descriptor.
2. Why would anybody really want to ally them in the first place? Scions do the same job for a better price. I'm curious to see what you mean by "a LOT" as well. The OP already struggles to make this supposed campaign happen. The market isn't as large as you think it is.
3. I'm here because this is a forum and therefore I'm going to post opinions.

Sisters are more of a power armored horde than Scions are. And -I- want to ally them to things. I'm working on adding Black Templars to my Sisters army to have a Crusading fleet of awesome.

Sad really. Sisters have a HUGE fan base. Much greater than many of the armies that are currently being pushed.
Not only would they sell entire armies to a sizable percentage of the current players but they would draw in new customer bases that they did not have before or which were on the fence.
Like many others, i would immediately drop a few hundred to make an ally force. Even if I didnt use them, I would do it just for the coolness factor. Although I think they would work GREAT to that effect.

 ncshooter426 wrote:

AllSeeingSkink wrote:

 ncshooter426 wrote:
GW isn't moving >450K in product sales per day.

GW reported 123.5 million revenue GBP last financial year. That translates to an average of ~$500k USD per day, of which we know (from the chapterhouse case) 40k is supposedly about half of that.

That's total. Their IP leasing makes up a good chunk of their income last time I checked (all the 40k digital franchise stuff, and TW:WH upcoming game). I will check their balance sheet for FY14 if I can find it.

Nope, royalties are only 1.1% of it.

http://investor.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/Games-Workshop-Group-14-combined-FINAL-cover-version.pdf

And as I said, 40k is around half of total revenue according to what GW said during the chapterhouse case. So total is $500k, 40k is around $250k, so 100 people buying a melta Sister is going to raise that day's 40k sales by around 0.7%... I honestly doubt anyone in GW HQ would even know it happened.


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 EVIL INC wrote:
Sad really. Sisters have a HUGE fan base. Much greater than many of the armies that are currently being pushed.

People say that.... but I'm not really all that convinced.

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:

 ClockworkZion wrote:
Fangirl thank you.

And seriously, I've seen a LOT of people who want to at least get some Sisters allies but don't want $100+ for even that.

And if you don't care about Sisters why are you in a Sisters thread? Just trying to troll for a reason to press the yellow triangle of friendship on others?

1. Fanboy is a term. Don't care what you are on the other side of the screen. I use the same descriptor.
2. Why would anybody really want to ally them in the first place? Scions do the same job for a better price. I'm curious to see what you mean by "a LOT" as well. The OP already struggles to make this supposed campaign happen. The market isn't as large as you think it is.
3. I'm here because this is a forum and therefore I'm going to post opinions.

1: Convention is to use the gender of whatever avatar someone happens to have up at the time, not to default to male.

2: Scions are one unit. Sisters are a Codex, they've got a lot of tools/tricks Scions don't.

AllSeeingSkink wrote:

 ncshooter426 wrote:

AllSeeingSkink wrote:

 ncshooter426 wrote:
GW isn't moving >450K in product sales per day.

GW reported 123.5 million revenue GBP last financial year. That translates to an average of ~$500k USD per day, of which we know (from the chapterhouse case) 40k is supposedly about half of that.

That's total. Their IP leasing makes up a good chunk of their income last time I checked (all the 40k digital franchise stuff, and TW:WH upcoming game). I will check their balance sheet for FY14 if I can find it.

Nope, royalties are only 1.1% of it.

http://investor.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/Games-Workshop-Group-14-combined-FINAL-cover-version.pdf

And as I said, 40k is around half of total revenue according to what GW said during the chapterhouse case. So total is $500k, 40k is around $250k, so 100 people buying a melta Sister is going to raise that day's 40k sales by around 0.7%... I honestly doubt anyone in GW HQ would even know it happened.

I'm pretty sure that's why it's paired with an email campaign. To go "look, a whole bunch of us bought models to make a point."

 AnomanderRake wrote:
1: Convention is to use the gender of whatever avatar someone happens to have up at the time, not to default to male.

I disagree here. If anyone was to use the feminine about me, I would point them to my explicitly male username .

 ClockworkZion wrote:

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
Oh, okay. Sorry. Hope your depression is finished . Will use the right pronoun now then.

It's helped a lot. I haven't felt this good in a looooooooooooong while. The mood swings while the hormone levels balance out aren't too bad, but still not fun.


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Slayer-Fan123 wrote:

 ClockworkZion wrote:
Fangirl thank you.

And seriously, I've seen a LOT of people who want to at least get some Sisters allies but don't want $100+ for even that.

And if you don't care about Sisters why are you in a Sisters thread? Just trying to troll for a reason to press the yellow triangle of friendship on others?

1. Fanboy is a term. Don't care what you are on the other side of the screen. I use the same descriptor.
2. Why would anybody really want to ally them in the first place? Scions do the same job for a better price. I'm curious to see what you mean by "a LOT" as well. The OP already struggles to make this supposed campaign happen. The market isn't as large as you think it is.
3. I'm here because this is a forum and therefore I'm going to post opinions.

Sisters are more of a power armored horde than Scions are. And -I- want to ally them to things. I'm working on adding Black Templars to my Sisters army to have a Crusading fleet of awesome.

 Furyou Miko wrote:
Fanboy is a derived term for a male fangirl, however, so... it's not really correct to use it in that fashion. Technically, by your logic, you should call everyone - even the males - fangirls.

Scions do the same job better? Scions are completely different. There is literally no role overlap between deep-striking, medium-armour lasgunners with an AP boost and mob-handed, heavy-armour melta caddies.

Scions are MSU Special Weapons holders that have several delivery options to get them where required (Taurox, Deep Strike, Valkyrie). This is really the niche they fulfill. Neither Sisters or Scions are very durable, and Scions are cheaper or more efficient to deliver. Immolators are neat (yay Multi-Meltas), but there's better vehicles to purchase. If I really wanted a

 EVIL INC wrote:
Sad really. Sisters have a HUGE fan base. Much greater than many of the armies that are currently being pushed.

Haha, no they don't. They certainly didn't back then when they had more "character" and better builds, and they certainly don't now. This "HUGE" fan base is completely exaggerated and you know it.

AllSeeingSkink wrote:
Nope, royalties are only 1.1% of it.

http://investor.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/Games-Workshop-Group-14-combined-FINAL-cover-version.pdf

And as I said, 40k is around half of total revenue according to what GW said during the chapterhouse case. So total is $500k, 40k is around $250k, so 100 people buying a melta Sister is going to raise that day's 40k sales by around 0.7%... I honestly doubt anyone in GW HQ would even know it happened.

Just goes to show, people are paying way to much for the material. Their total profits are kinda pathetic for the amount they charge for "premium" material though, weird.

@Slayerfan123: You're confusing "fan base" with "customer base". Sisters have a lot of fans, they just don't have a lot buying the models. There is a list of contributing factors (like the original codex telling you to not run them as a solo army) but despite the lack of players they have a fair number of fans.

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
This "HUGE" fan base is completely exaggerated and you know it.

We can't really quantify the SoB fanbase exactly. But it would also be incorret to say that they are insignificant. They sold well on the German iBooks store. Open the spoiler for a screenshot, and it's a reaosnable presumption that they performed decently on the other iBook stores too. And that's just the iBooks store, GW was also selling it on the BL site too.

Sure, the SoB fanbase might not be as big as the Space Marine or Ork fabnase, but it seems to be big enough.

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:

 Furyou Miko wrote:
Fanboy is a derived term for a male fangirl, however, so... it's not really correct to use it in that fashion. Technically, by your logic, you should call everyone - even the males - fangirls.

Scions do the same job better? Scions are completely different. There is literally no role overlap between deep-striking, medium-armour lasgunners with an AP boost and mob-handed, heavy-armour melta caddies.

Scions are MSU Special Weapons holders that have several delivery options to get them where required (Taurox, Deep Strike, Valkyrie). This is really the niche they fulfill. Neither Sisters or Scions are very durable, and Scions are cheaper or more efficient to deliver. Immolators are neat (yay Multi-Meltas), but there's better vehicles to purchase. If I really wanted a

Dose anyone have both codexes so that we can compare points costs, because I have a feeling that SoB can deploy the same if not more special weapons as a comparative points cost to Scions depending on which SoB unit is cosen. The BSS can have either 1 special and 1 heavy or 2 special where as the dominion squad can have up to 4 special weapons in a MSU squad of 5.

I'm in. Just traded all my Space Wolves for a sizeable Sisters army, to the point I never need a troop... but for the cause, let's do it.

 fox-light713 wrote:
Dose anyone have both codexes so that we can compare points costs, because I have a feeling that SoB can deploy the same if not more special weapons as a comparative points cost to Scions depending on which SoB unit is cosen. The BSS can have either 1 special and 1 heavy or 2 special where as the dominion squad can have up to 4 special weapons in a MSU squad of 5.

Tempestus cost same (higher by 10 for base squad), have worse stats, can take 2 specials at min size like sisters and can't take heavy weapons. They have access to Tauros and Valk, plus deep strike and move through cover and can take plasma guns.

They loose out of better stat line, better points efficiency, wider range of usable options, and basic gun strength.

Personally, Sisters all the way.

Although, Sisters with Tempestus allies sounds intriguing. Take Valks, and load them with Sisters.

Although, Elysians do that better as well.

Ah well. Hope that helps.


Back on topic, I'd contribute, but I have a pledge to paint everything first (sure, right), and that 1 model sets me back 20+ dollars. Sorry. Be rooting for you!

I am in for two Melta's.

Only have 6 so far + a combi-melta so more meltas will not be a problem.

If the rumours of June are correct for Sisters we might hear more before March.

"Protests" or "petitions" like this don't work. It's like the "protests" against high gas prices. A one day or one week blip in sales doesn't indicate anything overall in a market. Continued trends do.

"If we buy more of the old models, they'll finally replace the old ones!"

Typically when you want a product to change you buy less of it.

Not trying to sound snobbish but I don't think buying outdated models will get GW off their collective butts to replace said outdated models.

I am unsure if using money to vote is the right stance when it should be a boycott but, someone is actually doing something for once. I agree with Bronze and the others, I don't think this will truly help.

However... I learned about sisters the same day I got into 40k tabletop, as my Frenchman opponent who taught me to play the game owned an army of them. I'd be a hypocrite not to support this considering their involvement with how I got into the hobby.

Also, to echo the others above about them having a fanbase/customer base. I would /love/ a 500 pts allied Sisters army if they were updated.

Yeah. Count me in, I need an extra figure for an objective marker anyways.

At our local GW store, a regional manager was visiting while I was there, and was saying things like 'if sales increase on sisters, they're more likely to get plastic units, new releases, etc etc' and suggested that maybe one or two small releases would be in the future, and their sales would determine future goals.

I know this is like the most obvious information ever, but hey maybe this 'buy-in' isn't a terrible idea.

Might as well just Squat them then, because I imagine most of us aren't interested in buying $80 squads of metal models from the 3rd edition era.

Seriously, what a stupid way to look at it. If that was the same attitude they had before we wouldn't have ever gotten the Dark Eldar revamp, since no one was buying them, either. And if I'm not mistaken Necrons weren't very popular before the 5th edition update, either. Needless to say I don't believe that person at all and I don't think GW actually plans on doing anything with Sisters in any case, probably just hoping people are stupid enough to pay their stupid prices for those ancient models and help clear out their inventory to make room for more Space Marine gak.

I'll probably buy new kits, if they really do put any out, but I'm not getting on my hands and knees and paying $80 for ten fething models, practically begging for an update that for all we know GW doesn't ever intend to invest in. GW needs to be the one taking the risks here, as it's kinda foolish to expect us to invest in an army that isn't getting any support and could literally disappear overnight, especially at the price being asked. The digital rulebook is apparently a good seller, isn't that a good enough sign for them?

Ah, what the hell, I might as well chip in. At worst, I'll have saved a Sister from a fiery death by melting chamber.
And to any who question the validity of this (admittedly very crazy/stupid/ridiculous) idea, what's the alternative? Sit around day after day, debating about the same ideas on the same forums until the Age of Strife? Gather signatures for a (written only) petition that will either sit in the office gathering dust or get deleted from the email inbox?

Would three battle sisters count to this or are we just doing the models listed?

As long as they're bought on the fourth of March at the relevant time (8am PST
10am CST
11am EST for the US ), and are from the Adepta Sororitas range, any purchase will help... but buying one of the models listed shows more solidarity with the other protestors.

I have enough SoB to fill a standard table already, but I guess one more won't hurt.

As for popularity I'm the only Sisters player among our ten or so people who play at least once a year. No one calls them useless (I have victories against most armies and actually yet to lose vs Tau), it's just that the expensive models are a hurdle. One of the guys bought a squad of five Seraphim just to paint them but he's not shelling out enough for a working army. You could probably get his SW, Orks AND Tyranids for the money I've put into one army.

 Bronzefists42 wrote:
"If we buy more of the old models, they'll finally replace the old ones!"

It makes sense. If you do not have any stock anymore, you need to recast. Might as well recast new models that will sell better .

 Farseer Anath'lan wrote:

 fox-light713 wrote:
Dose anyone have both codexes so that we can compare points costs, because I have a feeling that SoB can deploy the same if not more special weapons as a comparative points cost to Scions depending on which SoB unit is cosen. The BSS can have either 1 special and 1 heavy or 2 special where as the dominion squad can have up to 4 special weapons in a MSU squad of 5.

Tempestus cost same (higher by 10 for base squad), have worse stats, can take 2 specials at min size like sisters and can't take heavy weapons. They have access to Tauros and Valk, plus deep strike and move through cover and can take plasma guns.

They loose out of better stat line, better points efficiency, wider range of usable options, and basic gun strength.

Personally, Sisters all the way.

1. Because you WANT Heavy Weapons? There's a reason why people like Bikers over Tactical Marines and that's one of the reasons.
2. Valkyries create more efficiency in dropping troops, and they can already Deep Strike as well.
3. Bolters suck anyway; AP3 on S3 is better than S4 AP5.
THEN you say wider range of usable options when Plasma Guns are one of the best weapons you can currently purchase?

Seriously, Scions fulfill the same niche, and do so better.

I think the only way to save Sisters was how they saved the Tau. Which was in serious decline when I took them up again a couple of years back.

Make them powerful in the crunch, give them battlefield quirks in an interesting way so they can have unique playstyles, and a better setup with regard to models and information about the army.

People play for all sorts of reasons, but the capability to win and win in an interesting way is something all players want. Fluffy players like to win according to the army's style in canon, crunchy types and powergamers just like to win.

To all the other people who say 'It won't work' or 'I don't hold out much hope'...

Where is your fighting spirit? Where is your thirst for power? Those who are a part of this, whether they believe it will succeed or not... if it does succeed, those people will know. They will know that they have power. Real power, to change things. To control the world around them.

For too long, people have been taught: you cannot change thing. Governments. Economy. School. All of these things teach us: These are the methods by which we can change the world, but! They will never work.

That is why England and America are stuck in this rut of opinion that no matter what we do, we can't change things. Who bothers to vote? The politicians are all the same anyway. Who bothers with petitions? They'll just end up in the bin, unread.

This movement is a minor thing. An unimportant thing, about toy soldiers in a game for children and fringers, and yet... with it, we can prove that we have the power to change the world.

So gather your wits. Your credit cards. Your email clients. Prepare yourself and put in your diary this day. The Fourth of March. And from then until eternity, let that day be known as the day you controlled Games Workshop.

 Furyou Miko wrote:
So gather your wits. Your credit cards. Your email clients. Prepare yourself and put in your diary this day. The Fourth of March. And from then until eternity, let that day be known as the day you made Games Workshop management laugh really hard while you gave them the content of your wallet.

Fixed for you.

Seriously, this is silly. I'm all for fighting spirit and defending your convictions and all that, but complaining about the practices and/or decisions of a certain company by buying the products of said company is as childish as it sounds. Wake up, the real world doesn't work like that.

You wanna tell GW you want some new sisters models? Wait until another company releases a "not-SoB" model line and buy them. That's voting with your wallet.

 Korinov wrote:

 Furyou Miko wrote:
So gather your wits. Your credit cards. Your email clients. Prepare yourself and put in your diary this day. The Fourth of March. And from then until eternity, let that day be known as the day you made Games Workshop management laugh really hard while you gave them the content of your wallet.

Fixed for you.

Seriously, this is silly. I'm all for fighting spirit and defending your convictions and all that, but complaining about the practices and/or decisions of a certain company by buying the products of said company is as childish as it sounds. Wake up, the real world doesn't work like that.

You wanna tell GW you want some new sisters models? Wait until another company releases a "not-SoB" model line and buy them. That's voting with your wallet.

And the above will have achieved exactly what we want

Make GW Management laugh really hard?

That is like the perfect goal for this appeal. It is simply to bring attention and make the range of players noticed. If management makes it a running joke, then our job is done. We will have had the attention that this faction requires.

Why would undermining GW have ANY effect? How would they notice sales of other products?
A simple purchase (it's like spare change unless you are too young to have a job) made by so many people will bring much more attention. It will be noticed (i can tell already) and that is all we want.

Plus i get another Sister with Meltagun. I needed one more. Hardly a pile of gold

 Furyou Miko wrote:

To all the other people who say 'It won't work' or 'I don't hold out much hope'...

Where is your fighting spirit? Where is your thirst for power? Those who are a part of this, whether they believe it will succeed or not... if it does succeed, those people will know. They will know that they have power. Real power, to change things. To control the world around them.

For too long, people have been taught: you cannot change thing. Governments. Economy. School. All of these things teach us: These are the methods by which we can change the world, but! They will never work.

That is why England and America are stuck in this rut of opinion that no matter what we do, we can't change things. Who bothers to vote? The politicians are all the same anyway. Who bothers with petitions? They'll just end up in the bin, unread.

This movement is a minor thing. An unimportant thing, about toy soldiers in a game for children and fringers, and yet... with it, we can prove that we have the power to change the world.

So gather your wits. Your credit cards. Your email clients. Prepare yourself and put in your diary this day. The Fourth of March. And from then until eternity, let that day be known as the day you controlled Games Workshop.

It's not about fighting spirit, it's about the idea that this proposal will have the opposite effect of the one desired.

I am in!

 MWHistorian wrote:

 Furyou Miko wrote:

To all the other people who say 'It won't work' or 'I don't hold out much hope'...

Where is your fighting spirit? Where is your thirst for power? Those who are a part of this, whether they believe it will succeed or not... if it does succeed, those people will know. They will know that they have power. Real power, to change things. To control the world around them.

For too long, people have been taught: you cannot change thing. Governments. Economy. School. All of these things teach us: These are the methods by which we can change the world, but! They will never work.

That is why England and America are stuck in this rut of opinion that no matter what we do, we can't change things. Who bothers to vote? The politicians are all the same anyway. Who bothers with petitions? They'll just end up in the bin, unread.

This movement is a minor thing. An unimportant thing, about toy soldiers in a game for children and fringers, and yet... with it, we can prove that we have the power to change the world.

So gather your wits. Your credit cards. Your email clients. Prepare yourself and put in your diary this day. The Fourth of March. And from then until eternity, let that day be known as the day you controlled Games Workshop.

It's not about fighting spirit, it's about the idea that this proposal will have the opposite effect of the one desired.

But i really don't see how?
Even though we'd really have new plastic Sprues, i'd say that's just a wish, out of the main goal here: Getting attention for the Faction.

How many players have purchased a Sister of Battle model recently? 75% of the SoB players i know are just "waiting".
This is the chance for all of them, all of us, to show that "we are still waiting".

Here, lets buy a single (their cheapest) model to show you that there's a lot of us waiting.

That goal will be achieved
Regardless of the release of a new Codex, new models, or just simply "Attention" to the range, which might or might not be at all influenced by this appeal.

Because we're dealing with GW and they'll see people buying overpriced metal minis and they'll think that selling minis at that price does indeed work.

 MWHistorian wrote:
Because we're dealing with GW and they'll see people buying overpriced metal minis and they'll think that selling minis at that price does indeed work.

It might hike up the price of their products, yes, that is a possibility... Very much doubt it though, as i do not think it'll have much of an effect past them running out of stock.
Then they'd have to re-mould some miniatures. Again, I doubt they'd cast any more metal models when they got rid of all of them via Finecast and then even ditching that....
Or they make more Sisters in metal forever.... and we all know how that is currently working for them

1 model per person is not going to make a difference for anyone but them, lol

When i firts saw this i was like "meh thats is a nonesenseless", but you know what, fk it i going to buy that beauty of canoness, because i love the figure and i need a another female inquisitor
I dont care if it work or not, nobody loose here, you get a nice model, they get money, bad if you are givin money for nothing, like a funding or something like that, and ai dont think that this gonna end in a crazy rise in the prices, the internet had just stereotype GW so much that people think they gonna make something stupid because, you know, they are GW...

Hey all, just a quick update:

- It seems numbers are looking very good on Social Media (mainly Facebook) and on multiple other Forums. This Includes international Forums (more than US+UK)

- Most who have agreed are now just waiting for the Date and a reminder closer to the time. I would ask all of them to now at least get 1 friend or acquaintance to either help out or transmit the info
We need to spread this as far as we can. Not coercing those not interested, but making sure everyone has heard of it and is participating if they want to.

- GW have emailed back for my "letting them know" email:

If people wish to make a large order for a model at a certain time, the website/webstore will be able to handle it without issue.
If any of the items go out of stock, we will ensure all customer orders are fulfilled as quickly as possible.

-It has been suggested that we all post up pics of the painted model(s) being purchased, to send to White Dwarf, both in support of the cause and for them to have a massive repository of Sisters of Battles pictures. That or post them here. No need for skill painting

And finally, i have updated the Picture if you don't feel like typing anything, just post up the pic:

I'll probably join in for this. The last model I need is Uriah Jacobus for my army and I was thinking of ordering one soon. So I will time my purchase for this event.

I'll do it. I could use it as an RPG character or something.

Hey all,

The 4th of march is coming up.
8am PST
10am CST
11am EST for the US
4pm GMT in the UK
5pm CET for most of Europe

Now's the time to tell that friend who hasn't heard of it

Ouch. That is on a school day for me, gonna be hard to fit this in.

 Stormwall wrote:
Ouch. That is on a school day for me, gonna be hard to fit this in.

Depends where in the US you are, but either just before school or during lunch break?

Also, that is the time to aim for. 1-2h before or after will still help. Especially with attached email:

To whom it may concern,

I am contacting you in regards to my recent order of an Adepta Sororitas model.

First of all, I do apologise for the high amount of administration work this has probably caused. Secondly, I do not expect a delivery of the model if the stocks have been emptied as a result, but would greatly appreciate a refund if this is the case and if it is within your means.

Lastly I would explain the reason for this purchase: I am an earnest collector of Adepta Sororitas models, and have been waiting for an update to this Faction for some time now. This purchase shows my interest in this range of models, and shows that an Update, or simply more attention to this Faction would bring me great joy.

Yours faithfully
A Sisters of Battle player.

Your optimism is admirable, but I would recommend you be temper it with pragmatism. Remember this is GW you're talking about. They do not listen to customers, and they do weird and infuriating things. They make utterly mystifying decisions when it comes to the most popular and heavily promoted products, let alone a range that they already (for no good reason) treat like an embarrassment. The Sisters have loyal and supportive fans, but they have canned whole games that still had loyal and supportive fans.

It's worth a try; at least you're actually going out and doing something. But please, don't be too surprised or disappointed if they take no notice.

Anyway, good luck.

Posted to our local forums.

Nobody in my local group is willing to join me in this, and I'm not prepared to pay for shipping another time the cost of the model... Might see if I can order something though my local store though.

Looks like the local GW store is pretty far away too Eindhoven.


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I'm ordering mine to the GW store in Portland, to skip shipping.

 pretre wrote:
Looks like the local GW store is pretty far away too Eindhoven.

If only we'd have done this a few months later, I'd be living there...

Wouldn't it be cool if every Sister of Battle sold out. 26 hours to go.

I feel like the middle paragraph of that letter is too apologetic and really quite unnecessary. We don't need to apologize for trying to purchase models for our armies. The latter half is just how businesses are expected to work.

 Zefig wrote:
I feel like the middle paragraph of that letter is too apologetic and really quite unnecessary. We don't need to apologize for trying to purchase models for our armies. The latter half is just how businesses are expected to work.

I think it's a perfectly polite email that gets the point across, as being overly aggressive gets you nowhere. Then again, I am a Canadian and we have a reputation for being apologetic, or so late night American talk show hosts seem to think

Not that I think any of this matters, but hey, why not. I'd like to sistahs!

I'm not saying we need to be aggressive, we don't need to add anything, but I think that the second paragraph is unnecessary and kind of dilutes the message. We're here to support the sisters and we don't need to apologize for that.

I'll get myself in on this not because i particularly think it will have instant results or any at all it's just fun. Adepta Sororitas are an army i started getting into just before i stopped playing 40k originally and now they are impossible to start over with because a lot of models are going out of print and what is left over is expensive and difficult to build an army with that has any sort of variety. It really does boggle the mind more than anything else GW have ever done why they don't want to do a new release of Adepta Sororitas stuff. With the new focus on selling campaign packs it'd be the perfect time to do it if they had them in one with new plastic figures along with some supporting plastic troops boxes and a special character in the campaign box it would sell out so fast they would be laughing all the way to the bank. How about a fancy new resin Saint Celestine? They could make her look as glorious and divine as she should now. Even if people don't particularly want it they would want to buy them because they would look cool and different to anything else. A new proper Codex in print would sell too. They are one of the most fluffy armies in the game and a representation of what makes the game and it's lore interesting.

But apparently somewhere down the line GW decided they don't like quick and easy money.

 Zefig wrote:
I'm not saying we need to be aggressive, we don't need to add anything, but I think that the second paragraph is unnecessary and kind of dilutes the message. We're here to support the sisters and we don't need to apologize for that.

Yeah, apologizing for making someone read an email is entirely counterproductive. If they are actually going through the effort of reading it, an apology at that point is meaningless, and it says that your topic is so trivial as to actually be a waste of time. This isn't a waste of time- you are trying to tell GW in definitive terms you are interested in purchasing a Sisters of Battle army, and the purchase you (and many others) have made today is in solidarity of this goal. Of course that doesn't mean you have to be aggressive, just forward and up-front about why you are writing them, and that's that.

I'd love to see Sisters get re-done, they're Crusader-Space-Nun thing has always been some of my favorite stuff, ranking up there with the Inquisition. That being said, GW will make Sisters whenever it is they feel like it, and I don't think any concerted effort to draw their attention to this will have much of an effect. We're hearing rumors of Adeptus Mechanicus being made (a force GW obviously thinks would do better than Sisters) and I believe a couple of other pined-for factions are given hints of possibility as well.

GW has just become very risk adverse, and re-doing any number of kits from the Sisters of Battle range is something they seem to think is rather risky. Most of the recent releases have been 1-2 new kits and a couple of characters- heck, the Harlequin release is one troop, one vehicle, and some characters. Sisters would theoretically require more than this to have a proper reintroduction, and I don't think GW wants to half-ass their release (well, any more than the last e-pub book!)...only releasing a couple of plastic kits and leaving the rest as resin would risk third party groups coming into fill those kits, and we can't have that.

I'm ready.

And to all the naysayers: ploys like this have worked for companies in the past, even ones stingier than GW.

Companies run like politics, but instead of voting with a vote at a booth, you vote with money at a register. We are all voting for GW to update Sisters, and votes with money go a long way to businesses.

I'm looking forward to seeing a lot of the metal models of Sisters sell out tomorrow. I think this will send just the right message to GW.

 BlackTalos wrote:

 Stormwall wrote:
Ouch. That is on a school day for me, gonna be hard to fit this in.

Depends where in the US you are, but either just before school or during lunch break?

Also, that is the time to aim for. 1-2h before or after will still help. Especially with attached email:

To whom it may concern,

I am contacting you in regards to my recent order of an Adepta Sororitas model.

First of all, I do apologise for the high amount of administration work this has probably caused. Secondly, I do not expect a delivery of the model if the stocks have been emptied as a result, but would greatly appreciate a refund if this is the case and if it is within your means.

Lastly I would explain the reason for this purchase: I am an earnest collector of Adepta Sororitas models, and have been waiting for an update to this Faction for some time now. This purchase shows my interest in this range of models, and shows that an Update, or simply more attention to this Faction would bring me great joy.

Yours faithfully
A Sisters of Battle player.

Well by school I meant College... It starts at 10, ends at 3. I will squeeze this in before I go back to learning about old Freud.

It's a British company, so that kind of apologetic line is pretty much just part of the format. If you don't want to include it in your letter, then cut it out - not every letter that goes in will be identical.

drbored wrote:
I'm ready.

And to all the naysayers: ploys like this have worked for companies in the past, even ones stingier than GW.

Companies run like politics, but instead of voting with a vote at a booth, you vote with money at a register. We are all voting for GW to update Sisters, and votes with money go a long way to businesses.

I'm looking forward to seeing a lot of the metal models of Sisters sell out tomorrow. I think this will send just the right message to GW.

I agree I think this is a good way to show that we are many still interested in Sisters of Battle. I wouldn't normally buy a old figure of SoB, but I will try to do that today.

Also send them a mail I think that will make a stronger impact.

I've order 2 with a Melta gun, on two separate orders. Lol

You could also sign this https://www.change.org/p/games-workshop-reboot-the-sisters-of-battle-adepta-sororitas-army-models-in-plastic

Yeah, it seems that stocks for everything are running out. Pledge what you can / if you can =)

I'd say great success, but i have no idea if they only had stock of 2 models or 250....

Fingers crossed on some success from this thing!

Ordered a model but I couldn't figure out where to paste the message.

So is it now or in one hour? I got confused.

 MrFlutterPie wrote:
Ordered a model but I couldn't figure out where to paste the message.

I had in mind emailing customer support in conjunction with order.

But the "out of stock + refund" is irrelevant now as the out of stock message is automatic (All order will go through)

All the minis I need were sold out shortly after midnight...

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
So is it now or in one hour? I got confused.

1H to go, but models to buy are slowly running out lol


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 Zefig wrote:
All the minis I need were sold out shortly after midnight...

Yeah, same issue for me. I will make sure i place an order though, even if it ends up being just the Vet Sister

So no more melta available, apparently. Will go for this instead, I guess, then, I still do not have it yet!
http://www.games-workshop.com/en-SE/Sisters-of-Battle-Superior-with-Power-Sword-and-Bolter

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
So no more melta available, apparently. Will go for this instead, I guess, then, I still do not have it yet!
http://www.games-workshop.com/en-SE/Sisters-of-Battle-Superior-with-Power-Sword-and-Bolter

Yup, i've got this one in my basket:
http://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Sisters-of-Battle-Superior-with-Bolter

Will see in 45 mins if the sale goes through

It's currently out of stock (Melta 2) in Ireland, with 45 minutes till the supposed time we're all meant to buy.

So I've had to click the "Email me" button.

DefiantLambdas wrote:
It's currently out of stock in Ireland, with 45 minutes till the supposed time we're all meant to buy.

So I've had to click the "Email me" button.

Yeah i've done that too, but think that support is still needed. If you don't want an alternative, thanks for the consideration, at least =)

Fudge, I bought the Stormbolter Sororitas too early. Sorry guys.

 TheCustomLime wrote:
Fudge, I bought the Stormbolter Sororitas too early. Sorry guys.

Lol still part of the contribution! =)

 BlackTalos wrote:
Yup, i've got this one in my basket:
http://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Sisters-of-Battle-Superior-with-Bolter

Tied with Celestine for best model in the whole range. I am actually surprised you do not already have it. The very first model anyone playing Sisters should buy .

 BlackTalos wrote:

DefiantLambdas wrote:
It's currently out of stock in Ireland, with 45 minutes till the supposed time we're all meant to buy.

So I've had to click the "Email me" button.

Yeah i've done that too, but think that support is still needed. If you don't want an alternative, thanks for the consideration, at least =)

Upon closer inspection of the range I've decided I want the Battle Sister Superior with Bolter.

I really want to lob that old bolter off and give her a Combi- Flamer or Melta.

Even if the e-codex allows it or not, I think it'd be a great use of spare bits.

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

 BlackTalos wrote:
Yup, i've got this one in my basket:
http://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Sisters-of-Battle-Superior-with-Bolter

Tied with Celestine for best model in the whole range. I am actually surprised you do not already have it. The very first model anyone playing Sisters should buy .

Celestine is a good choice if people were going to just buy one model incredibly fun to paint. She really deserves a cool base too so you can do all sorts of cool stuff with spare bits. Seems a few people started early since the first suggested buy is already out of stock XD.

Awkward timing means I've had to sent mind off twenty minutes early, but sister superior with power sword has been ordered.

Guess this is what they meant by "the website will handle it" and their utmost confidence in being able to full all the orders!

 Furyou Miko wrote:
Awkward timing means I've had to sent mind off twenty minutes early, but sister superior with power sword has been ordered.

Guess this is what they meant by "the website will handle it" and their utmost confidence in being able to full all the orders!

Lol yeah. "You wont' be able to buy" ...

At least if the entire webstore shows "out of stock" they're going to do something about it

 BlackTalos wrote:

 Furyou Miko wrote:
Awkward timing means I've had to sent mind off twenty minutes early, but sister superior with power sword has been ordered.

Guess this is what they meant by "the website will handle it" and their utmost confidence in being able to full all the orders!

Lol yeah. "You wont' be able to buy" ...

At least if the entire webstore shows "out of stock" they're going to do something about it

Nuclear option. Buy out their stock until they run out of metal to make new ones with and then they'll have to make plastic ones right?.....Right? :/

DefiantLambdas wrote:

 BlackTalos wrote:

DefiantLambdas wrote:
It's currently out of stock in Ireland, with 45 minutes till the supposed time we're all meant to buy.

So I've had to click the "Email me" button.

Yeah i've done that too, but think that support is still needed. If you don't want an alternative, thanks for the consideration, at least =)

Upon closer inspection of the range I've decided I want the Battle Sister Superior with Bolter.

I really want to lob that old bolter off and give her a Combi- Flamer or Melta.

Even if the e-codex allows it or not, I think it'd be a great use of spare bits.

The bolter VSS is a great model to add combi weapons too and yes it is legal in the e-dex to add combi weapons. I usually add a combi flamer to my BSS squads.

 SpookyBoogie wrote:
Nuclear option. Buy out their stock until they run out of metal to make new ones with and then they'll have to make plastic ones right?.....Right? :/

Just hope they haven't got boxes of Finecast Sisters waiting for release . . .

In the meantime, I expect that registering interest in the Battle Sisters Squad is going to have the biggest impact.

Meltas available still in canada and purchase has been made.

[quote

The bolter VSS is a great model to add combi weapons too and yes it is legal in the e-dex to add combi weapons. I usually add a combi flamer to my BSS squads.

Got a melta girl in the US.

Got mine! Got a Blessed Banner model, since it looks really spiffy and fun to paint.

Bought a bolt pistol Seraphim and the Storm Bolter Sister (I got one in a lot on ebay and figured I'd never use it, but I actually like them as Dominion or BSS Sister Superiors due to the range/shots/assault type). Too bad the Bolter Superior was sold out in Canada though, I definitely would have gone for that.

Ended up getting the VSS with Bolter too, i don't think i even had a copy so i felt i needed it before they are all OOP

Probably an automated email and I doubt I'll hear anymore from it, but here's what I've received:

Hey Andrew,

Thank you for writing into us! I will make sure that your comments are sent to the appropriate parties as feedback. Should you have any other questions please give us a call at 1-800-394-4263 and we will work to get you taken care of.

Sincerely,

Games Workshop
North America Customer Services

Please do not delete previous email threads as this will help us serve you better!

Yeah, I got the same.

UK customers version:

Many thanks for your recent email, We do aim to reply within 2 working days (excluding Saturdays & Sundays), however, during busier times it may take a little longer.

Below are some of the current frequently asked questions; please take a read through these as this may answer your query.

With Various FaQs below

I'm just hoping a good number of people participated. If it was just like, us 10 here, then that might not make a difference..

But going around a few sites, it looks like at LEAST like.. 20 people participated.

I sent the email to custserv@gwplc.com . I hope that was right.

I hope it was worth 20.42$ as well! I got a Storm Bolter sister!

Edit: http://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Sisters-of-Battle-Superior-with-Bolter

I would have loved that one more than the one I got. Well, today is a pretty feth all day so it just fits with the mood.

Maybe just 15-20 people but something is better than nothing to make a statement about what we want to see from them release wise. Really can only hope for a decent showing from the American market because that seems like the biggest one and the one GW likes to cater to. Though there is a good chance that they'll completely miss the point and just think Sisters players were all just missing that one miniature in their collection lol.

I purchased a melta gunner.

 Stormwall wrote:
I sent the email to custserv@gwplc.com . I hope that was right.

I hope it was worth 20.42$ as well! I got a Storm Bolter sister!

Edit: http://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Sisters-of-Battle-Superior-with-Bolter

I would have loved that one more than the one I got. Well, today is a pretty feth all day so it just fits with the mood.

Combined with the email, i think the act of buying the storm bolter model was just as helpful! Give her some nice paint work and email the result to White dwarf:

Please then photograph your mini when you've completed it and send the picture to white dwarf's inbox (as they request you to!) at: team@whitedwarf.co.uk - this will further raise awareness of the rally and perhaps we'll get someone from the group featured!

Got the Sister Superior with Bolter.

Natfka just posted it on his site. Which, considering his reach, is pretty awesome.

Oh she's gonna be apart of my Stormraven/stormwolf dropship kitbash base! Totally going to paint up and magnetize her guarding the wounded Executioners battle brothahs.


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Woo....

Ooh, that's a cool idea!

Just ordered mine about 15 mins ago. US site still had the Melta Gun 2 model.

Sadly I'm too broke to participate today (yay bills :( ). Depending on when I get money I -might- be able to jump in a day or two late but I'm not counting on anything atm.

You don't have $10?

 pretre wrote:
You don't have $10?

I'm a currently unemployed college student. I've got .72 until my GI Bill check hits my account. :(

 ClockworkZion wrote:

 pretre wrote:
You don't have $10?

I'm a currently unemployed college student. I've got .72 until my GI Bill check hits my account. :(

I know that feel. I didn't know you were a vet Clock. (I finally after months of battling, got my G.I bill sorted.

Ordered Sister Superior with Bolter + Heavy Flamer Sister.

Battles Sister Squad,
Repentia Squad,
Repentia Mistress,
Battle Sister with Simulacrum Imperialis,
Missionary with chainsword &
Sister with Meltagun all “Temporarily out of stock” on UK website

 Stormwall wrote:

 ClockworkZion wrote:

 pretre wrote:
You don't have $10?

I'm a currently unemployed college student. I've got .72 until my GI Bill check hits my account. :(

I know that feel. I didn't know you were a vet Clock. (I finally after months of battling, got my G.I bill sorted.

Yup, just shy of 8 years in the Army. Of course it'd help if they'd update the projected payment dates (I'm burning through my Montgomery and then will be using my free year of post-9/11).

 pretre wrote:
Natfka just posted it on his site. Which, considering his reach, is pretty awesome.

I asked him to last night. He will normally post anything that is news worthy. It's a shame the modbots at warseer couldn't be a little more open minded. Ben Jackson put up a participation poll on chaptermasters. http://chaptermasters.com/sisters-of-battle-march-forth/ it hasn't had much of a response yet.

I ordered Sister with Melta gun x2, Sister with Heavy bolter and a Canoness. The are 4 models out of stock in the UK now. I think 3 where already out of stock but lets celebrate anyway.
ClockworkZion I'd order one for you if I hadn't already blown my allowance for the week on this. Consider one of mine yours. It sounds like you should sit this year out.

 ClockworkZion wrote:

 pretre wrote:
You don't have $10?

I'm a currently unemployed college student. I've got .72 until my GI Bill check hits my account. :(

So you need me to buy it for you ? I will need you address and stuff for that.

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

 ClockworkZion wrote:

 pretre wrote:
You don't have $10?

I'm a currently unemployed college student. I've got .72 until my GI Bill check hits my account. :(

So you need me to buy it for you ? I will need you address and stuff for that.

Tempting but even if I get in late the email notification to GW stating intent is the important part in my book.

Well, I said I would buy one, and I did! For whatever that's worth.

 ClockworkZion wrote:
Tempting but even if I get in late the email notification to GW stating intent is the important part in my book.

Well, as you want, you now how to MP me.

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

 ClockworkZion wrote:
Tempting but even if I get in late the email notification to GW stating intent is the important part in my book.

Well, as you want, you now how to MP me.

I don't think MPs have jurisdiction in France.

But I get what you're saying, and I appreciate the offer, I'm just reluctant to do anything that feels like I'm mooching off someone's good graces.

Late getting my order in. No Melta on GW UK so gone for a H Flamer.

Are we meant to be sending an email to GW too?

D

Yep. Check the first post.

I'm glad you guys posted that the melta sister was in stock in the US, I didn't think it was around midnight but now I've ordered one, and email sent!

With the apologist paragraph removed, of course :p

Done and done.

Here's hoping something happens.

D

Ordering a Canoness, mostly because I actually need a Canoness. Hope something happens out of all this.

 ClockworkZion wrote:
I don't think MPs have jurisdiction in France.

French MP do!

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

 ClockworkZion wrote:
I don't think MPs have jurisdiction in France.

French MP do!

Yeah but I don't know any of those.

Sent my follow up email to let them know

I ordered the one with the Meltagun. It's a little late, but I'm sure that's okay.

While not a sisters player myself, I do love to paint, so I hope they get your point. I'd love to paint them in the future

Just ordered a melta sister, better late then never I guess

So any idea on how the actual turnout was?

I'm guessing 50-100 orders.

 pretre wrote:
I'm guessing 50-100 orders.

That'll teach GW!

That's probably a lot more sisters orders than they've gotten over the past year

 pretre wrote:
I'm guessing 50-100 orders.

So basically few enough that the only person who will notice is the guy pulling the last few dusty old metals off the shelf to pack them

We should do a census. Everyone PM Talon or myself (but not both!) with an "I bought it" message, maybe?

 Furyou Miko wrote:
We should do a census. Everyone PM Talon or myself (but not both!) with an "I bought it" message, maybe?

We can just count up all the "I got one" on this thread (so do say if you purchased one and have not posted here yet )

Add that to the Facebook numbers (i think there might be a little more there) and we should have about 50% of purchases.

I think it'll be somewhere between the 50 - 150 but possibly more if "likes" count and all the spread / forums we don't know of. I know there has been some re-shares and word to mouth, which could double figures (or just not at all )

It would be one of the roughest estimates anyway lol

I'm much happier looking at the Availability of models on the GW Website to count success. That and the painted models everyone will post up when done =)

 Furyou Miko wrote:
We should do a census. Everyone PM Talon or myself (but not both!) with an "I bought it" message, maybe?

You can register your involvement here http://chaptermasters.com/sisters-of-battle-march-forth/ You don't need a log in.

We could go by stock levels, but we don't know how much stock GW had to start with.

Add me in as a +1. I actually picked up a Melta Sister before they went poof. :-p

Got a mail telling me the melta sister was back in stock.

AllSeeingSkink wrote:

 pretre wrote:
I'm guessing 50-100 orders.

So basically few enough that the only person who will notice is the guy pulling the last few dusty old metals off the shelf to pack them

Quite the opposite. 50-100 e-mails on the same subject and a run on metals will probably be noticed. I've never contended otherwise. The difference is that they probably won't care.

 pretre wrote:

AllSeeingSkink wrote:

 pretre wrote:
I'm guessing 50-100 orders.

So basically few enough that the only person who will notice is the guy pulling the last few dusty old metals off the shelf to pack them

Quite the opposite. 50-100 e-mails on the same subject and a run on metals will probably be noticed. I've never contended otherwise. The difference is that they probably won't care.

My concern would be that GW will look at 50-100 sales and think "well, that's how many Space Marines we sell every hour of every day, I guess there's not much point reviving Sisters".

AllSeeingSkink wrote:

 pretre wrote:

AllSeeingSkink wrote:

 pretre wrote:
I'm guessing 50-100 orders.

So basically few enough that the only person who will notice is the guy pulling the last few dusty old metals off the shelf to pack them

Quite the opposite. 50-100 e-mails on the same subject and a run on metals will probably be noticed. I've never contended otherwise. The difference is that they probably won't care.

My concern would be that GW will look at 50-100 sales and think "well, that's how many Space Marines we sell every hour of every day, I guess there's not much point reviving Sisters".

They might go "hey look, stock is all gone now", and Squat sisters.

At least we won't be hearing rumours of plastic Sisters every year, and be continuously disappointed.

ED: although i really doubt that outcome. Raging Heroes are about to come up with their version (which GW will probably counter-sell - i would not be surprised if rumours/releases matched) and Shield of Baal would have not focussed on them if they were just waiting for the emptying of stock.

£49.70 for 10 monopose Sisters.

GW really is taking the piss.

I've never understood this attitude to the battle nuns. They're pretty unique to the universe and have lots of cool additional forces going on in the background.

Arco-Flagellants and Penitent Engines, while not strictly reserved to Sisters, are some of my favourite models in the game.

The price for Sisters has been like that for a while now. It's why people bitch how expensive are to get into as an army.

 BlackTalos wrote:

AllSeeingSkink wrote:

 pretre wrote:

AllSeeingSkink wrote:

 pretre wrote:
I'm guessing 50-100 orders.

So basically few enough that the only person who will notice is the guy pulling the last few dusty old metals off the shelf to pack them

Quite the opposite. 50-100 e-mails on the same subject and a run on metals will probably be noticed. I've never contended otherwise. The difference is that they probably won't care.

My concern would be that GW will look at 50-100 sales and think "well, that's how many Space Marines we sell every hour of every day, I guess there's not much point reviving Sisters".

They might go "hey look, stock is all gone now", and Squat sisters.

At least we won't be hearing rumours of plastic Sisters every year, and be continuously disappointed.

ED: although i really doubt that outcome. Raging Heroes are about to come up with their version (which GW will probably counter-sell - i would not be surprised if rumours/releases matched) and Shield of Baal would have not focussed on them if they were just waiting for the emptying of stock.

Something will have to give sooner or later and it's very much later now so they'll have to pick either overhaul the models and sell a newly updated army or get rid of them so people stop asking questions and going on about it. The reason the models don't really sell is that it's a fully metal army and there are a ton of models that went OOP forever so it's lacking variety. There is like 3 models for a Dominion Squad and 2 for Seraphim now. Very old school static models too so it's not like having a new plastic squad with lots of options for how they look and what gear they use.

Wow the UK is now out of stock for a bunch of sisters stuff. I recon heaps of people got some Sisters this week.

 SpookyBoogie wrote:

 BlackTalos wrote:

AllSeeingSkink wrote:

 pretre wrote:

AllSeeingSkink wrote:

 pretre wrote:
I'm guessing 50-100 orders.

So basically few enough that the only person who will notice is the guy pulling the last few dusty old metals off the shelf to pack them

Quite the opposite. 50-100 e-mails on the same subject and a run on metals will probably be noticed. I've never contended otherwise. The difference is that they probably won't care.

My concern would be that GW will look at 50-100 sales and think "well, that's how many Space Marines we sell every hour of every day, I guess there's not much point reviving Sisters".

They might go "hey look, stock is all gone now", and Squat sisters.

At least we won't be hearing rumours of plastic Sisters every year, and be continuously disappointed.

ED: although i really doubt that outcome. Raging Heroes are about to come up with their version (which GW will probably counter-sell - i would not be surprised if rumours/releases matched) and Shield of Baal would have not focussed on them if they were just waiting for the emptying of stock.

Something will have to give sooner or later and it's very much later now so they'll have to pick either overhaul the models and sell a newly updated army or get rid of them so people stop asking questions and going on about it. The reason the models don't really sell is that it's a fully metal army and there are a ton of models that went OOP forever so it's lacking variety. There is like 3 models for a Dominion Squad and 2 for Seraphim now. Very old school static models too so it's not like having a new plastic squad with lots of options for how they look and what gear they use.

Agreed.

 pretre wrote:

AllSeeingSkink wrote:

 pretre wrote:
I'm guessing 50-100 orders.

So basically few enough that the only person who will notice is the guy pulling the last few dusty old metals off the shelf to pack them

Quite the opposite. 50-100 e-mails on the same subject and a run on metals will probably be noticed. I've never contended otherwise. The difference is that they probably won't care.

Well a petition has been put up now too, so go check it out:
https://www.change.org/p/games-workshop-reboot-the-sisters-of-battle-adepta-sororitas-army-models-in-plastic

If those numbers are anything to go by, i'm quite surprised to see the 7 hundreds. Possibly bould accounts and only half went to buy a model, but that would still be good numbers, as i thought we had (with stock running out everywhere)

I got an email from Customer Support which read as follows:

Hello

We are contacting you today regarding your order with Games Workshop. We apologise for any inconvenience, but our dispatch department has informed us that unfortunately the SUPERIOR WITH BOLTER are currently out of stock and we do not have an exact date of when this will return.

Would you like us to hold the order or remove the item and you will not be charged?

If you could reply back stating which action you would like us to take we will organise this for you as soon as possible.

Kind regards

Sophie
Games Workshop Customer Service


Here is my brief reply:

Hello,

Game Workshop Customer service.

I wish to continue with my order.

I do not mind waiting for this order.

It was made in good faith as part of an online campaign to support the Sister of Battle Range of miniatures.

I personally have modeling plans for this order and wish to build a Sister of Battle army in the future.

Regards,


I hope other peoples orders have been more successful. It seems the VSS is of limited supply to Ireland. Which means, of those who did take part, the produced stock is rather low. But let's hope they meet the back log, and then then can meet any small uptick in demand from those who want to round out their forces or build an army.

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So either someone is getting notified or they are just going to ignore it, I guess I'll wait for another email from them and see.

DefiantLambdas wrote:
I got an email from Customer Support which read as follows:

Hello

We are contacting you today regarding your order with Games Workshop. We apologise for any inconvenience, but our dispatch department has informed us that unfortunately the SUPERIOR WITH BOLTER are currently out of stock and we do not have an exact date of when this will return.

Would you like us to hold the order or remove the item and you will not be charged?

If you could reply back stating which action you would like us to take we will organise this for you as soon as possible.

Kind regards

Sophie
Games Workshop Customer Service


Here is my brief reply:

Hello,

Game Workshop Customer service.

I wish to continue with my order.

I do not mind waiting for this order.

It was made in good faith as part of an online campaign to support the Sister of Battle Range of miniatures.

I personally have modeling plans for this order and wish to build a Sister of Battle army in the future.

Regards,


I hope other peoples orders have been more successful. It seems the VSS is of limited supply to Ireland. Which means, of those who did take part, the produced stock is rather low. But let's hope they meet the back log, and then then can meet any small uptick in demand from those who want to round out their forces or build an army.

"and we do not have an exact date of when this will return."

Now that is some good news. It was one of the main goals of the appeal: Get orders with no stock available and see results, but the "email me" button completely foiled our plans.... lol

This would also support my thoughts that the "re-stock" on some models is the spreading of stock between the US and UK (if Sold out in the US, they send some over from the UK and vice-versa)

Wonder if they send them par avion and that's why they can't tell you when they'll be back.

I am confused about your sudden use of French, and about why planes would be so unpredictable. Am I missing something?

Airmail envelopes are always marked par avion in the UK for some reason, and the idea is that if they don't use airmail - they send stuff by boat - it would cause delays.

Hey all, finally got a shipping notification for my sister with a tracking number. Figure I'd just put an update in so we can compare when they email, etc.

My order shipped out on March 9th and is currently chilling (literately lol) in Winnipeg.

Was going to get in on this, but a serious RL financial thing came up (like, several hundred dollars of serious) so that left nothing in the discretionary fund for it.

I ordered a Battle Sister with heavy flamer to deliver to my local GW (yet free shipping), but it doesn't appear to have been dispatched yet, and I've had no comment from GW Customer Service...

Anyone else's order still pending?

D

I'll have to check tracking, but I think mine arrives at my local store today.

Hey, anyone else think that email sent out by GW earlier signed by Sophie shoulda been signed as High Lord Administratem Sophie? /hail Sophie!

Huh, hadnt' seen this thread. I'm tempted. Idk what good it'll do, but I might pick up another model just for kicks.

 Melissia wrote:
Huh, hadnt' seen this thread. I'm tempted. Idk what good it'll do, but I might pick up another model just for kicks.

It was posted a few times here in advance and on the Sisters Tactical thread too.

Timing is not an issue if you can get the email through, that's what counts now, clearly denoting support (don't forget to amend the "out of stock part", cause they prevented that).

Picked up one of my 2 orders today, still waiting for the other.

Gah!, Why did I not hear about this thread sooner!

 Pendix wrote:
Gah!, Why did I not hear about this thread sooner!

Heresy. Abject, rampant heresy.

I thought the title was talking about how the Sisters of Battle visually appeals to you. Doh! I should have checked it anyway.

I didn't want to bother with looking because I know that I like how they look and that was enough for me.

 djphranq wrote:
I thought the title was talking about how the Sisters of Battle visually appeals to you. Doh! I should have checked it anyway.

I didn't want to bother with looking because I know that I like how they look and that was enough for me.

Lol, should have put: "Appeal/Petition"

Well my Uriah Jacobus was delivered and I picked it up.

He has been assembled and is awaiting to be baptized in the Emperors most holy primer.

Relevant to the interests of the thread, possibly tying it into the new rumors of a Sisters release:

http://www.ragingheroes.com/pages/kickstarter-news

Lust elves? I expect many, many male models in that one…

And that is why I don't like Raging Heroes. Sigh.

Yeah, the naughty nun look doesn't fit Sisters in my mind.

 ClockworkZion wrote:
Yeah, the naughty nun look doesn't fit Sisters in my mind.

That description actually just makes me wanna play them "exactly" like that. *giggle*

I've been fiddling around with the idea of picking up some Sisters to run as an IG ally, and to be really honest, I'm more than okay using some of RagingHeroes models. With GW not really bothering to make new models or units for years at a time, while some of the basics are still available, I feel like a few well sculpted newer models would be nice to have.

Anyways *shrugs*, I don't have any problem with them aesthetically. As much as I want GW to release new rules and models though also, I feel like if I buy some elsewhere, they have only themselves to blame.

I hate the Raging Heroes female models. I'll pass.

Heh.

Raging Heroes? Raging Hormones more like.

 Furyou Miko wrote:

Heh.

Raging Heroes? Raging Hormones more like.

About right.

Picked up my melta sister yesterday.

She went on the pile.

 Zefig wrote:
Picked up my melta sister yesterday.

She went on the pile.

I was trying to come up with a dirty joke for that one, but I am blank at the moment

Not really sure where you're getting the "naughty nuns" idea from the picture gallery, at least beyond the attire that certain GW Sisters are already depicted in wearing.

Thigh-high boots? Check. Got them in 40K.
Wasp-waisted? Check.

Near-naked, clad in robes and scrolls? Check. That's the Sisters Repentia.

... but check out the Chalice Knight. She looks *badass*.

http://www.ragingheroes.com/pages/the-sisters-of-eternal-mercy-picture-gallery

 Psienesis wrote:
Not really sure where you're getting the "naughty nuns" idea from the picture gallery, at least beyond the attire that certain GW Sisters are already depicted in wearing.

Thigh-high boots? Check. Got them in 40K.
Wasp-waisted? Check.

Near-naked, clad in robes and scrolls? Check. That's the Sisters Repentia.

... but check out the Chalice Knight. She looks *badass*.

http://www.ragingheroes.com/pages/the-sisters-of-eternal-mercy-picture-gallery

I guess she had a couple of extra shields lying around?

 Psienesis wrote:
Not really sure where you're getting the "naughty nuns" idea from the picture gallery, at least beyond the attire that certain GW Sisters are already depicted in wearing.

Thigh-high boots? Check. Got them in 40K.
Wasp-waisted? Check.

Near-naked, clad in robes and scrolls? Check. That's the Sisters Repentia.

... but check out the Chalice Knight. She looks *badass*.

http://www.ragingheroes.com/pages/the-sisters-of-eternal-mercy-picture-gallery

I was looking at the nun in black with the guns who appears to be wearing a shiny material (like say, rubber) for an outfit.

You mean like this one?



Or, let's not forget one of the original images:



Not much different, really. Main point being, the Order of Eternal Mercy is not a significant departure from the already-existing art in GW publications.

Of course, people are free to like it or not, I'm not saying that people *must* like the RH version... but what I am suggesting is that the OoEM announcement, which has been known as an upcoming project for a couple years now, might be the drive behind GW's rumored update to the Sisters.

I'd be more concerned about fulfillment issues than design issues. Especially considering this one is being done to either finish the first KS or make it so they can continue normal operations (depending on the theory).

I may go in for $1.

 Psienesis wrote:

... but check out the Chalice Knight. She looks *badass*.

http://www.ragingheroes.com/pages/the-sisters-of-eternal-mercy-picture-gallery

That is "exactly" what I was thinking when I saw that one. I immediately thought, "Now THAT looks like a female space marine." Heck I'd like models like that I could use in a normal chapter of space marines if they were something that included females. As it stands though I could easily see using her as a Sister superior model or something along those lines. She just looks seriously fierce.


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 ClockworkZion wrote:

I was looking at the nun in black with the guns who appears to be wearing a shiny material (like say, rubber) for an outfit.

I may be entirely wrong about this, but I think the image of the one in black is actually the idea for the Sisters that will be used for their Fantasy line-up. I think the ones in white with the actual armor plating and such are the 40k futuristic style stand ins.

That probably doesn't change your mind about em or anything, but the armored ones are what I'd use in 40k in any case.

 Psienesis wrote:
Not really sure where you're getting the "naughty nuns" idea from the picture gallery, at least beyond the attire that certain GW Sisters are already depicted in wearing.

Well, it depends which GW artwork you focus on. I love Andrea Uderzo's sisters. I guess I said enough.

I think she overdoes the pauldrons rather a bit. They're almost Space Marine caliber, but her b&w pieces are really good.

He. Andrea is a Italian name for men, not women, even though it ends with an “a”.
And why should Sisters get pauldrons smaller than their marines counterpart? Bigger is better!

 Psienesis wrote:
You mean like this one?

Spoiler:

Or, let's not forget one of the original images:

Spoiler:

Not much different, really. Main point being, the Order of Eternal Mercy is not a significant departure from the already-existing art in GW publications.

Of course, people are free to like it or not, I'm not saying that people *must* like the RH version... but what I am suggesting is that the OoEM announcement, which has been known as an upcoming project for a couple years now, might be the drive behind GW's rumored update to the Sisters.

First one is clearly wearing armor and Blanche draws everyone like that.

And I meant the one on the right with what looks to be thigh-highs and a shiny black material for her form fitting boob socks:


So yeah, not my thing for Sisters. Now fetish gear I'd say "sure, that's fine" but not a heavily armored combat nun.


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EDIT: Also how dare I have different tastes about what I feel fits Sisters or not.