At this point, I don't think it's an understatement to say a) that this is the most excited I've ever been about a film and b) this could well be the best film ever made.
Damn I was then about to post this! was searching the threads just to make sure one hadn't been previously made! reds8n you broke my heart
I cannot wait for this, good to see that Tony created A.I which became Ultron, had a bet on that with a friend so hello easy money, I cannot wait for this film, I've been hyped since the first trailer but right now I feel like I'm going to wee a tad from excitement...
That Power Rangers gif if as awesome shot, but if you look closely it almost looks like the Captain is riding Iron man when he comes onto screen and the hulk breaks the first rule of filming almost, never look directly at the camera!!!
I liked the this much better than the previous one.
Positive:
Glad there wasn't any of that SPOOKY PINOCCHIO stuff that was making my eyes roll out of my sockets with the last two. Looks like they gave Stock Female Character #4 some fancy high-tech weapons, so maybe she and the other lower-power heroes will feel less out of place in this one. I like a lot of the new visual design such as the villain, the big Iron Man Armor, whatever that wispy-power was.
Negative I'm a bit worried about being introduced to two new characters for the first time in a big team outing. The trailer is still making this one look a fair bit "darker grittier", which would be a huge deal breaker for me. Some of the action shots look a bit awkward.
Yes, that's are first look at Vision (besides a few promotional stills).
tomball0706 wrote: That Power Rangers gif if as awesome shot, but if you look closely it almost looks like the Captain is riding Iron man when he comes onto screen and the hulk breaks the first rule of filming almost, never look directly at the camera!!!
You're not the first person I've seen saying it looks like he's riding on Iron Man's back. Odd angle.
Oh, and if Hulk wants to look at the camera, Hulk can look at the camera. Are you going to tell him not to? Hulk does what Hulk wants!
Chongara wrote: Looks like they gave Stock Female Character #4
You think Widow is a "stock female character"? Oh give me a break...
H.B.M.C. wrote: Yes, that's are first look at Vision (besides a few promotional stills).
tomball0706 wrote: That Power Rangers gif if as awesome shot, but if you look closely it almost looks like the Captain is riding Iron man when he comes onto screen and the hulk breaks the first rule of filming almost, never look directly at the camera!!!
You're not the first person I've seen saying it looks like he's riding on Iron Man's back. Odd angle.
Oh, and if Hulk wants to look at the camera, Hulk can look at the camera. Are you going to tell him not to? Hulk does what Hulk wants!
I find it quite funny, it almost looks like the motorbike handle bars and coming out of Iron Man, probably only noticed it as the clip was playing over and over and i got lost in it picking out all the details
Also, to that hulk thing? I'd reckon I'd give it a go, don't reckon it'd get me far by ooooooh weeeeeeell
I love the Hulk and I love the fact that he and an Hulkbuster-clad Iron Man fight each other... but the thing I'm looking forward to the most is the debut of the Vision. He's been one of my favorite characters since grade school.
In the comics, it happens all the time, sometimes of his own will (World War Hulk, he picks a fight with just about everyone for very legitimate reasons), sometimes outside influences (such as Loki setting him on The Avengers in Issue 1, and then the film).
In this case, I'm going to say it's Scarlet Witch mind-controlling him, or Ultron hijacking the suit.
That, or Banner conciously turns on Stark. I think it's pretty clear some blame is going to be going Stark's way for the whole 'oh, crap, I built Ultron' thing, we already have shots ofThor about to choke him, what if Stark does something so stupid/arrogant/careless that Banner decides he needs some sense beaten into him? Avengers 1 proves he can control the transformations for the most part, so it could well be concious.
This looks so good. I'm really excited for this. Doesn't hurt that I like the people they got to play the witch and quicksilver and that i love the dude playing Vision.
Platuan4th wrote: Oh hey, there's a line setting up Tony supporting Registration.
Hooray, Tony gets to be the "villain" again. [/sarcastic dead pan]
And? Of course he's the 'villain' in supporting the SHRA, anything else would be a somewhat pointless change, and defeat the purpse of 'Civil War'. Tony builds Ultron, gets a lot of people killed, realised he's made a mistake and reacts by supporting the SHRA to ensure neither he nor anyone can do anything like that again and not be held accountable. Makes perfect sense to me.
Platuan4th wrote: Oh hey, there's a line setting up Tony supporting Registration.
Hooray, Tony gets to be the "villain" again. [/sarcastic dead pan]
And? Of course he's the 'villain' in supporting the SHRA, anything else would be a somewhat pointless change, and defeat the purpse of 'Civil War'. Tony builds Ultron, gets a lot of people killed, realised he's made a mistake and reacts by supporting the SHRA to ensure neither he nor anyone can do anything like that again and not be held accountable. Makes perfect sense to me.
Tony supporting the SHRA isn't what I meant as him being the "villain", It was all the BS Marvel did to portray him as a mustache twriling baddie willing to do anything to get it passed and enforce it and that supporting the SHRA was somehow the "wrong" choice that comic readers were supposed to be against.
Cap/Iron Man had one in Avengers during the climatic battle in The Avengers that tightened my pants a little. It reminded me of playing Ultimate Alliance on xBox.
Apparently there are some AMC theaters in the states that are running 23'ish hour marathons of every MCU movie leading up to this one. Can't say I'd want to try to enjoy AoU after being awake that long (even with cat naps during movies I'm not quite as into), but I think I'll start up a little re-watch over the next month and a half of my own.
It'd also be nice if local theaters would get around to making tickets available. I don't care if it's not always in their control, some I can get two months in advance, sometimes it's barely a week before a blockbuster drops, and it'd be nice to snag a bunch for my friends at one of the VIP screens in the area.
But yeah, these trailers are incredible. Absolutely can't wait to see this.
23 hours is a bit much even for me (proud completer of a Hobbit Marathon when BotFA came out), but I certainly think a Phase-2-Athon is doable, especially cutting Iron Man 3 from the equation. Start with Avengers, Thor 2, Cap 2, Guardians just because and then AoU.
Chongara wrote: Looks like they gave Stock Female Character #4 some fancy high-tech weapons, so maybe she and the other lower-power heroes will feel less out of place in this one.
That was a problem in Avengers, I thought. He's a raging monster, he's a demigod, he's got super armor, he's got super strength and reflexes, and she's.... got a glock.
I like Black Widow in general, and I like ScarJo a lot as her, but there is a definite power imbalance in that lineup. She worked really well in that last Captain America movie but I don't think she scales up very well.
Hawkeye has the same problem, but at least he has that deus ex arrow thing going.
Captain America: Civil War is set to begin production in just two weeks time, with casting notices for extras revealing a start date of 1 April 2015.
A brief synopsis has also been issued along with the casting call, revealing a few key plot points that confirm how connected the film is to Avengers: Age Of Ultron.
“Following the events of Age Of Ultron, the collective governments of the world pass an act designed to regulate all superhuman activity,” reads the official blurb. “This polarizes opinion amongst the Avengers, causing two factions to side with Iron Man or Captain America, which causes an epic battle between former allies.”
Nothing much there that we didn’t already expect, but nonetheless, it’s still exciting to see the battle lines being drawn between Tony Stark and Steve Rogers. Looks like the MCU is about to kick it up a gear…
Directed by Joe and Anthony Russo and co-starring Chris Evans, Robert Downey Junior and Scarlett Johansson, Captain America: Civil War will open in the UK on 29 April 2016 and the US on 6 May 2016.
Bleeding Cool ran some interesting rumours yesterday
If these rumours are true, then they are spoilers.
If they are not true, they are not spoilers.
But they are sourced from the kind of fellow who took this photo…
So, Captain America: Civil War. It will feature Captain America, Iron Man, Black Widow, Hawkeye and Black Panther.
It will also feature Hulk, Thor, War Machine, Scarlet Witch, Wasp, and a fourteen year old Peter Parker, Spider-Man.
You may note there is no Quicksilver mention. Because he doesn’t make it out Avengers: Age Of Ultron. There will be no Agent Coulson appearance in the next Avengers film but the clip we saw of Hulk and Black Widow getting close will be a thing. Expect flirting and then a kiss…
Also Falcon appears in Ant-Man.
Will that do for now?
Marvel didn’t reply to e-mails sent yesterday.
But it should be noted that this was later dismissed as untrue by various people.
.. I'd be somewhat surprised if the thing about the person in the spoiler did happen , but ....
I've long through that QS ain't getting out of AoU alive. I have no proof beyond what the trailers show (or don't show), but I'm pretty sure he's toast.
This is just looking better and better. My dreams are coming true, comic book movies that don't suck! Now if only the Juggernaut can show up in a movie and not be frigging horrible then life will be compete
angelofvengeance wrote: there's a scene in one of the trailers of SW clearly upset about something...
In which case we can say goodbye to the MCU. Characters/teams/Universes don't tend to survive Scarlet Witch temper tantrums...
I can see them doing a one-and-done with Quicksilver, simply because it gets them out of the comparison with X-men (who frankly, are always going to win. QS in DOFP was beyond awesome, and apparently will return in Apocalypse). That, and Stark's line that there 'no way we all make it through this' means at least one member is getting it.
At first, I was thinking Banner would be the one to go. He's not in line for a solo film for one thing, and given that the comics made a point of getting him out of the way for Civil War via Planet Hulk (because whatever side he took would win!), I could see them following suit in the films, in the same way I wouldn't be surprised to have Thor disappear for Ragnarok at the end of AoU (Loki and Heimdal do feature, after all)
Still, I haven't read the spoiler and don't intend to, so that may have been addressed there.
"Speaking to Marvel, Joss Whedon teased that there are even more Marvel characters in the movie than the ones already confirmed. When asked whether some Marvel characters are in the movie that we haven't yet seen in promotional pictures, he answered with a succinct "Yes!" Whedon also explained why Paul Bettany is going to blow everyone away as Vision, and why he really wanted Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch in this film."
"Speaking to Marvel, Joss Whedon teased that there are even more Marvel characters in the movie than the ones already confirmed. When asked whether some Marvel characters are in the movie that we haven't yet seen in promotional pictures, he answered with a succinct "Yes!" Whedon also explained why Paul Bettany is going to blow everyone away as Vision, and why he really wanted Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch in this film."
To be fair, that answer depends on what they mean by if we've 'seen them'. We haven't seen any promotional material that shows Peggy Carter, Falcon or Heimdall, but just from the credits list on the movie poster we know by Hayley Atwell, Anthony Mackie and Idris Elba are in the film.
What Whedon said doesn't necessarily confirm any big cameos.
Hulk got a welcomed upgrade to his wardrobe with the addition of stretchy pants, which he wears underneath his clothes. No more will he be caught in the embarrassing situation of being half-naked in shredded clothing when he Hulks-out—the pants, made of high-tech, microfiber fabric, stretch with him.
Wanda possesses the power of telekinesis, and she is able to fire neurons in people’s brains remotely using her powers and as a result can manipulate their minds.
The Hulkbuster Armor was developed by Tony Stark and Bruce Banner, after they studied the Hulk’s physical actions and strength levels in an effort to find a way to contain him and minimize the damage caused by his rages. A satellite in low orbit is always around Banner and at a moment’s notice, Tony Stark can deploy the Hulkbuster armor, get into it and stop the Hulk in his tracks—theoretically.
1. Hulk got a welcomed upgrade to his wardrobe with the addition of stretchy pants, which he wears underneath his clothes. No more will he be caught in the embarrassing situation of being half-naked in shredded clothing when he Hulks-out—the pants, made of high-tech, microfiber fabric, stretch with him.
2. Thanks to Tony Stark’s engineering skills, Hawkeye received an upgrade to his weaponry. He now has many new arrow tips that serve different purposes. Some of these are explained in the movie and others the audience will just get the joy of seeing deployed on screen. Hawkeye’s quiver has also changed—it is more automated and faster loading, and is capable of holding nine arrows.
3. Hawkeye’s bow also received a makeover, with the classic black color being changed to maroon. Added features to the bow include an infrared-sighting device and a sonic-sighting device.
4. An exciting change was also made to Captain America’s shield. It now has the ability to be called back, much like the Iron Man suits. Instead of having two handles in the back, the shield now has a magnetic element that clips onto Cap’s gauntlet.
5. Courtesy of Tony Stark, Black Widow gets to flaunt new fighting batons, which are based on Escrima Sticks. But Black Widow’s two sticks are charged exactly the same as her stingers, so when she jabs, she is not only striking her opponent, but delivering a massive jolt of power as well.
6. On this film, production designer Charles Wood and his team built an enormous, new Avengers Tower set that is the largest set ever built for a Marvel film. Much of the movie takes place there on its many different levels. A large expanse of glass opens the view to New York City and one can also see a hangar for the Quinjet. The multiple environments are all connected, with the ability to move from downstairs to upstairs and vice versa.
7. The Avengers Tower set is designed to serve the story in multiple ways. In the movie, the Tower, designed and built by Tony Stark, is a gathering place for The Avengers—a place to plan, do business, relax or study. There is a lounge area, three laboratory areas plus a machine room, a gym, a relaxation area and a locker room. The Tower was also designed to provide everything Tony Stark needs for his work and research.
8. New characters entering the Marvel Cinematic Universe from the comic book world are Wanda (Scarlet Witch) and Pietro Maximoff (Quicksilver), who have powers that have not yet been seen on screen. Pietro is lightning fast and Wanda possesses the power of telekinesis, and she is able to fire neurons in people’s brains remotely using her powers and as a result can manipulate their minds.
9. Another new character on The Avengers team is Vision, played by Paul Bettany, who previously had voiced Jarvis in the Iron Man films. He’s an artificial life form whose look is truly unique. Vision’s powers are spectacular and he represents a new power base for The Avengers team.
10. The Hulkbuster is an iconic piece of Iron Man tech—a prebuilt super-suit designed to take on the Hulk. The Hulkbuster Armor was developed by Tony Stark and Bruce Banner, after they studied the Hulk’s physical actions and strength levels in an effort to find a way to contain him and minimize the damage caused by his rages. A satellite in low orbit is always around Banner and at a moment’s notice, Tony Stark can deploy the Hulkbuster armor, get into it and stop the Hulk in his tracks—theoretically.
11. The redesigned Quinjet has a more militaristic look this time around and the pilots are now able to have a good look at the environment around them while flying. The design of the canopy was based on a helicopter cockpit with glass in front and below, which will give audiences a tremendous sense of speed when the Quinjet is flying through city airspace. The interior has been stripped down to a more utilitarian, sleek space as well, with many of the luxurious finishes and padding removed for an edgier look.
12. A unique asset to the production in Seoul was the use drones and remote control cars to put the camera in places that could never be achieved by camera operators or helicopters. The production enlisted the expertise of brothers Menstru Pa, who is the Korean National Champion in drone flying, and Pak Min Keu, who is the Korean National Champion in remote car racing.
13. Dressing the Super Heroes for a pivotal party scene was a task that fell to veteran costume designer Alexandra Byrne. Since it is the first time that Thor has ever been seen in party clothes, Byrne worked with Chris Hemsworth to find the right combination of jeans, jacket and shirt that would dress his shape and not look themed or fancy. Dressing Tony Stark was easier, especially since Robert Downey Jr. wanted a very sophisticated look. Subsequently it was off to London’s famous Savile Row for tailoring. After five fittings, Tony Stark emerged looking quite elegant.
.. only 9 arrows..... that can't be right.
Pretty certain his quiver contains exactly plotrequirement# of arrows.
3 New Characters, a new base, a lot of character upgrades. This movie has a lot of elements to introduce before even getting things rolling. It still worries me. Part of what made the first avengers film work for me was that I was already familiar with pretty much everything going in. Outside of the kind paper thin new punching bags, I didn't have to absorb much in order to get down to the fun alien punching & character interactions.
I would have liked to have at least had an origin story for the two main newcomers before getting into all this. After a combined 9 collective films with the rest of the cast It's going to be very hard for them not to feel like hangers-on. This is especially true if
Spoiler:
The rumors of killing one of them off is true. It just seems like it's going to feel hollow. Sorry guy I knew for like 30 minutes. I guess I'll miss your funny accent or whatever the 1 character trait they're going to be able to establish is.
The Vision (Paul Bettany) is a powerful and mysterious android that is raw, dangerous and uncontrollable.
Ulysses Klaue (Andy Serkis) is a black-market arms dealer, smuggler and gangster operating out of South Africa. He is a former acquaintance of Tony Stark’s from his weapons-dealing days and a powerful new player in the Marvel Cinematic Universe.
Baron Strucker (Thomas Kretschmann) is a brilliant HYDRA scientist who worked under the cover of S.H.I.E.L.D. for far too long. Human experimentation, advanced robotics and artificial intelligence are just a few of the things Strucker is working on when Wanda and Pietro Maximoff volunteer for his program.
Dr. Helen Cho (Claudia Kim) is a world-renowned geneticist and an ally of The Avengers. From her offices in Seoul, South Korea, to sharing workspace with Bruce Banner in his lab at Avengers Tower, Dr. Cho’s research and technology help keep The Avengers in the fight.
In the comics, yes, Pym built Ultron (who then built Vision). In the film, though, Stark is the creator as Pym won't appear until AntMan later this year.
Supposedly, this version of Ultron is developed from the Chitauri (sp?) tech salvaged from the New York attack. Which might explain why Thor looks kinda angry at Stark..
The Vision looks really cheesy, IMO. It's a decent adaptation of his traditional appearance in the comics, but then that's a very four-color comic book-y look.
Personally I think they could have done something really ultra-modern and clean if they'd started with his "white period" look and gone from there. This just looks like Paul Bettany wearing magenta facepaint.
"If the Avengers had been released in 1995," indeed.
angelofvengeance wrote: Supposedly, this version of Ultron is developed from the Chitauri (sp?) tech salvaged from the New York attack. Which might explain why Thor looks kinda angry at Stark..
According to Kevin Feige, Ultron is a product of Stark utilizing AI research that Baron von Stucker was engaged in while he was hiding within SHIELD.
Since Hank Pym has been stated to have worked at SHIELD before the whole schism within SHIELD , and Pym actually engaged in AI research before leaving, it's entirely possible that Hank Pym did in a sense have a hand in the creation of Ultron...
Chongara wrote: I liked the this much better than the previous one.
Positive:
Glad there wasn't any of that SPOOKY PINOCCHIO stuff that was making my eyes roll out of my sockets with the last two. Looks like they gave Stock Female Character #4 some fancy high-tech weapons, so maybe she and the other lower-power heroes will feel less out of place in this one. I like a lot of the new visual design such as the villain, the big Iron Man Armor, whatever that wispy-power was.
Negative I'm a bit worried about being introduced to two new characters for the first time in a big team outing. The trailer is still making this one look a fair bit "darker grittier", which would be a huge deal breaker for me. Some of the action shots look a bit awkward.
Did you legitimately call Quicksilver and Scarket Witch new characters?
To be fair they are new to the Marvel Cinematic Universe. I tend to judge perception of "new" or "to complicated" thru my wife who has zero knowledge of marvel outside of the movies. To her they are new characters.
Most people don't read comic books. This is a fact that many in nerddom seem to have trouble with.
Regarding the movie being too crammed with characters...it's definitely a risk. IMO, the problem you see with many sequels that the studio/director/etc. put the desire to give audiences MOAR ahead of the storytelling.
Personally, I thought that the plot of Avengers was awfully thin, although probably necessarily so with all the characters to balance. If Whedon and Marvel have gone down the path of MOAR characters, MOAR wisecracks, MOAR action set pieces, MOAR banter, MOAR superpower tricks, a villain who's MOAR powerful and nasty...it would raise some questions about much room is left for plot and character development.
I think Whedon may need to have (had?) an even steadier hand on the wheel than he had the first time around.
Chongara wrote: I liked the this much better than the previous one.
Positive:
Glad there wasn't any of that SPOOKY PINOCCHIO stuff that was making my eyes roll out of my sockets with the last two. Looks like they gave Stock Female Character #4 some fancy high-tech weapons, so maybe she and the other lower-power heroes will feel less out of place in this one. I like a lot of the new visual design such as the villain, the big Iron Man Armor, whatever that wispy-power was.
Negative I'm a bit worried about being introduced to two new characters for the first time in a big team outing. The trailer is still making this one look a fair bit "darker grittier", which would be a huge deal breaker for me. Some of the action shots look a bit awkward.
Did you legitimately call Quicksilver and Scarket Witch new characters?
How are they not? I've never seen either so much as mentioned in the other movies outside that one stinger.
Unless you're expecting me to be familiar with the comic versions, which would be difficult given I've never picked up a super hero comic in my life.
EDIT: (see post below this one) The same goes for anything that might make Black Widow seem like less of a stock archetype. If they did it in the comics it doesn't count because I and a great many other movie goers have no familiarity with that material, and have no interest in becoming familiar with it.
It's hard to say because there's no one else visible to compair it to other than Iron Man who doesn't really count, but Vision seems to have a distinct lack of bulge for that kind of costume material. I mean that makes sense given robot and all, but I wonder to what effort and budget they might have spent in production and effects to remove any prominence there throughout the movie and that thought just amuses me.
AduroT wrote: It's hard to say because there's no one else visible to compair it to other than Iron Man who doesn't really count, but Vision seems to have a distinct lack of bulge for that kind of costume material. I mean that makes sense given robot and all, but I wonder to what effort and budget they might have spent in production and effects to remove any prominence there throughout the movie and that thought just amuses me.
Anyone else more excited for the next Star Wars trailer than the Avengers movie? I'll be going to see it in the first couple of days, but mainly for the trailer.
trexmeyer wrote: Anyone else more excited for the next Star Wars trailer than the Avengers movie? I'll be going to see it in the first couple of days, but mainly for the trailer.
I have almost no faith in the Star Wars franchise anymore. However, I do not doubt that Avengers 2 will at least be entertaining on some level.
trexmeyer wrote: Anyone else more excited for the next Star Wars trailer than the Avengers movie? I'll be going to see it in the first couple of days, but mainly for the trailer.
I'm not that hyped about trailers, but I'm more excited about Mad Max: Fury Road than Avengers 2. MM looks insane, and I think I'm getting Marvel movie-ed out already. I'm sure Avengers 2 will be lots of dumb fun, but I feel like I've seen plenty of these characters smashing stuff recently. *shrug*
I almost wonder if they should be showing less and not more in their trailers, etc. I kinda feel like I know exactly what to expect from it, and how it's all gonna go.
trexmeyer wrote: Anyone else more excited for the next Star Wars trailer than the Avengers movie? I'll be going to see it in the first couple of days, but mainly for the trailer.
I'm not that hyped about trailers, but I'm more excited about Mad Max: Fury Road than Avengers 2. MM looks insane, and I think I'm getting Marvel movie-ed out already.
No.
Actually, I want Mad Max: Fury Road to be good, but I'm more than a little worried about the path it has taken to finally get released.
I almost wonder if they should be showing less and not more in their trailers, etc. I kinda feel like I know exactly what to expect from it, and how it's all gonna go.
Here we agree - movie trailers need to hint at more and show a lot less - we're all (mostly) going to see this movie anyway!
Chongara wrote: Looks like they gave Stock Female Character #4
You think Widow is a "stock female character"? Oh give me a break...
For once I'm going to have to agree with HBMC Widow is not a stock character, especially in the second Captain America movie where she's given almost the same amount of screen time as Captain America.
So, guess that confirms why Banner turns on Stark (beyond 'we need the Hulkbuster in this film!'), predictable but still awesome. As for the scene itself, WOW! Awesomeness in its purest form.
Yeah, methinks the sound engineers could spend a little more time on it.
I kept wondering if James Spader was hiding behind the robot doing the talking. It doesn't sound like Spader playing Ultron, it sounds like Spader playing himself.
And somewhat counterintuitively, I feel like their attempts to give Ultron more naturalistic human movement just calls more attention to the CGI.
trexmeyer wrote: Anyone else more excited for the next Star Wars trailer than the Avengers movie? I'll be going to see it in the first couple of days, but mainly for the trailer.
No, but then, I'm not even going to see star wars because I couldn't give less of a feth about that entire franchise.
Paradigm wrote: So, guess that confirms why Banner turns on Stark (beyond 'we need the Hulkbuster in this film!'), predictable but still awesome. As for the scene itself, WOW! Awesomeness in its purest form.
Yep, it's also confirms that Tony is in full control of his armor and squashes all of the "But you don't see him in it..." talk that was floating around here a while ago. I am disappointed to see that Hulk is fighting him because Scarlett Witch is apparently messing with his mind (which was proposed on the other Avengers thread because in the first trailer there is a tinge of red in his eyes), because I hate the "mind-controlled conflict for plot convenience" that superhero movies often do with a passion.
Spaders ultron voice sounded great until the clip reds8n posted. If it's gonna be that clean and clear throughout the entire movie I will probably be a little annoyed. Otherwise I'm loving everything I've seen so far.
grittier", which would be a huge deal breaker for me. Some of the action shots look a bit awkward.
