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Post by: Slipknotzim
these are good, you should do a group shot for us!
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Thanks man, I do have a group shot of the Kill Team:
Reckon I'll do another when the next two marines give me a second 5 man squad.
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These are all great, but I especially like the minotaur and blood-angel running poses! Very dynamic/intimidating + realistic looking!
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that is super cool mate. Loving the individual flair of each marine.
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adirangan - thanks a lot, I do try and pose my models realistically, so I'm stoked that's something you've picked up on.
Rippy - cheers, I wanted them to have individuality beyond just their shoulder pads. Plus I figure that most of them serve while wearing the same armour they showed up in and that while away from their parent Chapter they'll carry more little trinkets and things to maintain their connection.
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Post by: Skimask Mohawk
Why do some have the arm painted and some just the shoulder pad? Well painted, but far too many colours for me on deathwatch
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Black, silver and red other than shoulder pads is too many colors?
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The shoulder pad bit is an unfortunate aspect of the deathwatch that takes away from them imo. Ignoring that, theres the fact that the lenses are different colours, there's greens, blues, different shades of red, different shades of brown, golds and parchment. It serves to make the models too noisy
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The armour was only repainted; changing the colour of their lenses would require replacing them, which I don't think the Deathwatch does.
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Skimask Mohawk wrote:Why do some have the arm painted and some just the shoulder pad? Well painted, but far too many colours for me on deathwatch
The shoulder pad bit is an unfortunate aspect of the deathwatch that takes away from them imo. Ignoring that, theres the fact that the lenses are different colours, there's greens, blues, different shades of red, different shades of brown, golds and parchment. It serves to make the models too noisy
Ha, I hadn't even noticed I'd done that to be honest. My DIY chapter have vlack and white armour so it's probably just a bit of autopilot taking over on occasion. To be fair it's only 2 out 8, I'll just have to try and remember better in future. It probably doesn't help for consistency that I tend to do them one or two at a time with fairly large gaps in between. That's probably also why they might be a bit colourful for your taste, I take them up when I want to do something a bit different and experiment with some colours I don't use on my DIY.
That said regarding the lenses see Dark Soldier's response:
DarkSoldier wrote:The armour was only repainted; changing the colour of their lenses would require replacing them, which I don't think the Deathwatch does.
plus I try to inject a lot of the flavour of the Chapter (as I see it) into each member, the colour of the lenses is a part of that along with the other details.
I'm not really sure what you mean about the different reds. It's the same colour for the weapons and purity seal wax on all of them except the Templar (who's something of an outlier anyway being the very first one I did). Where the red does differ, mainly the Blood Angel, but also on the Crimson Fist and Minotaur to an extent, it's only on the Chapter specific stuff. While there are different shades of brown on various pouches and holsters, I'd hardly think any of them could be considered noisy as the vast majority are very dark and quite drab.
Obviously as the creator I'm very much in favour of my own colour choices, but I do appreciate hearing other views, even if they don't agree with mine, so thanks for stopping by and commenting.
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Post by: Icelord
Best part of them all is the fire in the mouth breather thing of the salamander. Awesome idea!
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Post by: liljeremyd
These really look fantastic! I've thought about painting some up to use as Sternguard. This might push me into actually doing it.
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Post by: Frankenberry
Sweet baby jesus that is some crisp brushwork, well done!
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Cheers, gents. Much appreciated.
liljeremyd - go for it, fella, it's worth it.
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Solid base colors on each model, but lacking in both highlights and shadows.
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Müller wrote:Solid base colors on each model, but lacking in both highlights and shadows.
Take another look, man. They're subtle on some parts (like a very dark grey on the armour), but highlights are there on everything.
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I can see some highlights, but a lot of areas are really lacking in shades and more extreme highlights, which makes a crisp paint job "flat" looking.
Definitely not bad painting at all, but I think you'll get more life out of each model if some additional shading, gradients and some further highlights.
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These are great! Really solid paint job, rich colours applied smooth and neat. Bravo!
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A new recruit, a third son of Dorn:
Müller - fair enough.
Floyd73 - Thank you very much
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Post by: The Wise Dane
So awesome! I really want to make my own, as I had planned... But my plans was stumped when I realised how tough it is to get the Deathwatch Pauldrons. What do you use for them?
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This thread is filled with so much win. Love how no marine looks the same, all of them feel unique.
I really like the latest one, it's so cool to see marines from "smaller" chapters!
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The Wise Dane wrote:So awesome! I really want to make my own, as I had planned... But my plans was stumped when I realised how tough it is to get the Deathwatch Pauldrons. What do you use for them?
Thank you. It is tricky, I use the plastic pad from the Space Marine Command Squad set and buy it up whenever I see it on a bits site or ebay store. However, I have been getting into press moulding recently so I can use cool decorations from models without cutting them off and have been thinking about trying to replicate the shoulder pad that way. So long as you do that for your own personal use and do not sell them, then it's ok.
TheDraconicLord wrote:This thread is filled with so much win. Love how no marine looks the same, all of them feel unique.
I really like the latest one, it's so cool to see marines from "smaller" chapters!
Thanks a lot, yeah I really wanted them to have the character of their parent chapter rather than just being black marines with different shoulder pads. I love 'smaller' chapters, too. I want to do lots of them, but the options are somewhat limited as my freehand is only ok rather than good so it does not match the detail of sculpted pads. That said I've got pads sorted out for a Novamarine, a Mortifactor a Red Scorpion, a Hawk Lord and an Angel Porphyr so there will be more lesser known chapters in the future!
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sockwithaticket wrote:The Wise Dane wrote:So awesome! I really want to make my own, as I had planned... But my plans was stumped when I realised how tough it is to get the Deathwatch Pauldrons. What do you use for them?
Thank you. It is tricky, I use the plastic pad from the Space Marine Command Squad set and buy it up whenever I see it on a bits site or ebay store. However, I have been getting into press moulding recently so I can use cool decorations from models without cutting them off and have been thinking about trying to replicate the shoulder pad that way. So long as you do that for your own personal use and do not sell them, then it's ok.
Yeah, now I just need to be able to press them... I guess I'll go for them on bit-sites, then.
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They are excellent. I've always had a fondness for the deathwatch and you are very much adding to that! The painting is awesome and I personally love the individuality and dynamic way in which you've posed each marine. Keeping chapter traits but while clearly showing their deathwatch tour is great.
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AMAZING! The only thing is that the eyes on the newest grav-gun model are not done, not that big a deal in my books, but because you seem like such a good painter that it won't be a problem, and would really make the black scheme that much more fabulous
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Thank you. Yeah, I missed them, got a bit confused. You see, my DIY Chapter has black and white armour and black lenses for their helmets, so I guess I kind of went on autopilot and skipped doing them another colour. Now it's highlighted and glued in it's a bit late to make the fix unfortunately. I could probably do the right lens, but the left one is quite inaccessible yet still very visible an I don't want him with one black lens and one coloured one.
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Post by: penguineater91
I really love these models. They are simple and classy - and really stand out in my opinion. I have thought about doing some Deathwatch/killteam, and I think your models have inspired me to finally look into it. Any chance you can pm me some of the sets you kitbashed for parts? Thanks!
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Skimask Mohawk wrote:Why do some have the arm painted and some just the shoulder pad? Well painted, but far too many colours for me on deathwatch
In all the fluff I have read about the Deathwatch the armor is no painted solid black. A large majority of it is. The is still some plates that keep the color of the parent chapter. The reasons for this is if they paint the armor solid black the machine spirit may end up feeling dishonored and rebel against the wielder.
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penguineater91 wrote:I really love these models. They are simple and classy - and really stand out in my opinion. I have thought about doing some Deathwatch/killteam, and I think your models have inspired me to finally look into it. Any chance you can pm me some of the sets you kitbashed for parts? Thanks!
Thank you for your kind words and it's very humbling to be the inspiration for someone. Absolutely go for it, I find it a very rewarding project.To be honest it'd probably be easier if you asked about any specific parts/models you had interest in, I have cherry picked things from all over the place and listing my sources would take forever! The main SM kits are always the start point, though; i.e. Tactical, Sternguard, Vanguard and Assault.
BrotherChaplinMalus wrote: Skimask Mohawk wrote:Why do some have the arm painted and some just the shoulder pad? Well painted, but far too many colours for me on deathwatch
In all the fluff I have read about the Deathwatch the armor is no painted solid black. A large majority of it is. The is still some plates that keep the color of the parent chapter. The reasons for this is if they paint the armor solid black the machine spirit may end up feeling dishonored and rebel against the wielder.
I think he meant why were two of the arms that should be silver black. To which the answer was: I forgot the arm was meant to be silver and, having taken the trouble to highlight the black, didn't want to do them over. Couldn;t see it being a massive deal.
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So damn cool! Salamander is my personal fav.
Well done
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Soo awesome.
Are these all Sternguard in game?
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Colour me very impressed with your painting style, Being a crisp and clean painter myself I can say without a shadow of a doubt your skills far surpass mine. I really am looking forward to the next model you complete.
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zombiekila707 wrote:So damn cool! Salamander is my personal fav.
Well done
Thank you, hes a favourite of mine, too. First time I tried yellow lenses and it worked really nicely.
evildrcheese wrote:Soo awesome.
Are these all Sternguard in game?
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Cheers. I don't actually play anymore, but, if I had to run them in game, I'd do it as Sternguard for sure. No point giving them fancy bolters for nothing.
Knightley wrote:Colour me very impressed with your painting style, Being a crisp and clean painter myself I can say without a shadow of a doubt your skills far surpass mine. I really am looking forward to the next model you complete.
Oh, well thank you very much. It's taken me about four years to get to this point. I should have another one due by month's end as I'm entering one of the Dakka P&M forum's montly challenge.
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Sweet work! Love the extra detailing and parent chapter pauldrons!
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Man I am impressed as hell!
These marines feel so full of individual character, they are ripe with possibilities for stories.
At first I thought the painting was too simple, then I just saw how this simplicity created such cleanliness, it's like the sashimi of painting Some things looked weird like the blue drop on the Blood Angel, but then I started to dig it. When I saw the white lizard on the Salamander I laughed, "that's so sockwithaticket", it was very cool. I feel the black armor makes their characteristics more pronounced in the same sashimi way as the style so you see that blue cord or red cord or leather sheath (brilliant btw) better.
I, like you, don't play anymore so I am going to get some Imperial Knights and paint up as a freeblades/inquisitorial scheme (a band of freeblades working for an inquisitor). I was toying with the idea of getting some space marines to sprinkle around them on the display shelf. I think after seeing this I might have to, this project of yours is an absolute beaut!
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Those are some beautiful Marines. I must ask though how you make the super detailed Bolters?
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Prepare your anus, you have proper rules soon
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You have some amazing blending techniques. I almost feel like the blacks aren't showing as gracefully on camera as they would in real life.
Really cool stuff man, keep it up.
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I love these, the crisp black on all of them is just kick ass, but I particularly love the sheath on the newbie, and the flames & seals on the salamander. Makes me want to paint space marines!
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Wow, I wasn't expecting so much love a full 2 months after my last post. It's almost like there's something on the way drawing attention to the Deathwatch...
Okuma - thank you very much for such effusive praise! You've hit the nail on the head, in terms of what I like to do stylistically. The black armour is like the background for all the little details, I like those to draw the attention. Your project sounds awesome, I'd very much like to see that.
Valkyrie - Thanks. Presumably you mean like the ones on the Space Wolf, Mortifactor and Hawk Lord? The simple answer is 3rd party companies. The ammo drum for the Space Wolf's bolter is from Anvil Industries, it's one of 3 ammo types you get with their Lance Carbine and that weapon is what the Hawk Lord is sporting. The Mortifactor has a Thunder Gun from Kromlech
TheCrusaderSmurf - um, I'm not sure if that's really a part of my anatomy that needs to be prepped for incoming rules, but thanks for the heads up. I think...
DutchWinsAll - Cheers, man. That's something I've been trying to bring into my work more. It is a very subtle highlight on the black, but t is a bit more obvious in reality, I tend to find that lighting it to look right for photos tends to make everything else look too bright
Niatona - thanks a lot. The Salamander is a favourite of mine, got to try a lot of different things out on him.
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Very nice work, ive always been a fan of deathwatch. You nailed it.
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sockwithaticket wrote: TheCrusaderSmurf - um, I'm not sure if that's really a part of my anatomy that needs to be prepped for incoming rules, but thanks for the heads up. I think...
Better safe than sorry sockwithaticket
My question to TheCrusadeSmurf is whether the preparation should be entry or exit related. Are we talking Immodium and a high fiber diet or Tactical Dreadnought underpants?
On Deathwatch related note, now that Deathwatch Overkill has come out, will you be adding your own jump pack, termie and biker to your ranks for an alternate take on the kill team?
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Love the crisp paint jobs and the character of each Marine.
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yokoyomama - thank you very much
Okuma - The next thing on my list for my Dathwatch is actually a Quad Heavy Bolter Rapier, the Hawk Lord is one of the crew members. At some point I do plan on adding some Vanguard Veterans, but I've not really got any intention of doing Bikes or Terminators. Not even to do my own reworking of the DW:O kill team. I am planning on getting my hands on Cassius and the Imperial Fist from that set and reappropriating them though. Maybe the Ultramarine, too.
Stormwall - thanks, I have really tried to imbue them with some rather than simply be more faceless marines.
Feindus Maximus - cheers.
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DW marines are awesome part of Wh40k and Your version of them is IMO one of the best squad I've seen together I like clean painting with subtle light ups and shades
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Thank you very much, they are easily one of my favourite things about 40k so your comments are very gratifying.
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Your models came out great and are a inspiration for me as I am working on a Deathwatch force myself. I can only hope to reach a level of painting that you already seem to have down solidly. Your shoulderpads are clean and crisp and you have loads of interesting bits to break up the solid black for each marine.
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I love them. I also dig the fact that you kept the bling to a bare, in most instances, nothing. They look really sharp.
I would love to see a Contemptor with your DW painting applied.
Good job!
Mat
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New Recruit - Raptor
No doubt we'll be seeing lots of these guys after the Deathwatch Veterans release, but hopefully mine stands out a little as it's got the correct insignia rather than the one on the pad in the kit (thank you 3rd party). As befits a marine from a Chapter of legendary marksmen he has a Stalker Bolter (Anvil Industry's 'Negotiator' Rifle) and plenty of appropriate gear on his person: 2 alternate ammo clips, a range of individual bullets with unique, exotic poisons (zoom in on the second pic a bit), a bipod, additional visual tracker on his pack and punch dagger (seems very much like the sort of thing a Raptor would have). With his pose I wanted him to look like he'd just made a shot (note the shell casing on the floor) and is scanning for a new target.
airinhere - well thank you very much, that's really flattering, glad you like 'em. All the random bits and bobs are there to keep me interested in painting as much as anything! Black and silver aren;t the most absorbing things to deal with even if the final result comes out well. Plus marines without extra doodads just don't look right to me. I don't want them to be literally weighed down by stuff, but all the best artwork shows them with a bunch of gear on their belts and a fair few purity seals and other decorations, so mine need some too.
combat engineer - Cheers, man. In addition to what I wrote above, I like detailing marines, but I still want them to look functional so they can't be completely covered in stuff.that serves no function. No plans for a Contemptor I'm afraid, I think I might be one of the only people on the planet who doesn't like them. However, I do have a Grey Knights Mk. IV Dreadnought that was going to be an Ironclad (before DW actually got their own codex) and a MK. IV Dread that's ear-marked to be a Heavy Bolter Mortis Dread (because what saya Xenos killers more than 4 heavy boters?)
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What bases are those?
Nice work btw, I am preparing to paint some DW myself =)
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Beautiful model.
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Rezyn wrote:What bases are those?
Nice work btw, I am preparing to paint some DW myself =)
Cheers, make sure you pop yours up when you're done. Can never have enough DW goodness.
To be honest I can't be 100% on the bases as I buy them from all over if I see some I like and stick them in a bag to delve into as required. However, the ones on the last few marines would either be Dragon Forge 32mm concrete rubble or Secret Weapon 32mm urban streets.
Stormwall wrote:Beautiful model.
Thank you very much.
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They look really nice. I have been working on my own with some conversions in as well.
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An Emperor's Sword joins the ranks:
According to Lexicanum 2 Chapters have borne the Emperor's Swords moniker and both have been destroyed in the 41st Millenium. This battle brother is the sole survivor of the second chapter, whose homeworld turned out to be a dormant Necron tomb world. While he was on secondment with the Deathwatch, the Necrons awoke. As far as is known, he is the sole surviving member of the Chapter. Consequently, he has been given dispensation to keep not just his right shoulder pad, but also his Storm Shield in his chapters heraldic colours. The scrolls attached to his backpack are a list of every member of the Emperor's Blades lost in the homeworld's destruction.
This particular marine came from numerous Ravenwing bits I had lying around and not knowing what to do with them until browsing Lexicanum's list of loyalist Chapters and discovering that neither iteration of the Emperor's Swords had established colour scheme and iconography, but certainly posessed cool back stories for a DW member. Given that Ravenwing symbols are actually pretty similar to those of the Emperor's Children and the similar nomenclature of the Swords to former glory boys of the Imprium I thought to go with the EC's purple as the base colour, but replace their gold trim with silver; a nod to potential origins (we all suspect/know the High Lords of Terra have tried to utilise the geneseed of Traitor Legions in the past...).
khrayunn - thank you very much. Make sure you post yours up when they're done., I'm sure folks would love to see them.
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What is the black paint you are using and the grey highlight? It's a nice smooth black that seems to be a great shade and not too black or too grey.
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Thanks, Rickfactor. It's Army Painter Matte Black highlighted with Vallejo Model Colour German Grey.
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Your deathwatch inspires me to start work on mine. Every model is so bright and vibrant, love it all.
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Cheers, Floyd. That's great to hear and I loom forward to seeing your results.
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Excellent work. I wish I could paint as cleanly as you do.
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Wonderful work.
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Cheers, guys.
CDShaddock, I'm sure you can, mate. It's all about practice. I'm 5 years in at this point and believe me, they didn't start off looking like this!
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The mounts on rifles are rendered to as "rails". I do like the look of it.
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Nice. Love all the different chapters. Working on my own Death Watch as well but still working on Kill Team Cassius.
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Some great Deathwatch here buddy .
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whalemusic360 wrote:The mounts on rifles are rendered to as "rails". I do like the look of it.
Thank you, next time I shall know. Yeah, I'm really not very impressed with the GW Stalker bolter, so I'm glad this alternative exists.
schank23 wrote:Nice. Love all the different chapters. Working on my own Death Watch as well but still working on Kill Team Cassius.
Cheers, man. I feel like with 1,000 Chapters out there that Deathwatch kill teams should consists of more than just the first founding ones and it's fun to root around for lesser known ones to represent. I've got Kill Team Cassius, but only to cannibalise for parts; find it very difficult not to convert everything! Good luck with it.
angelofvengeance wrote:Some great Deathwatch here buddy .
Thanks!
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Latest addition to the ranks:.
He belongs to the Revenants of Maccrage who I've made up because I wanted to use this Ultra pad I've had knocking around forever, but not for an Ultramarine and then noticed the similarity with the symbol on the DW:O Ultra's backpack; hey, that's some chapter iconography right there. The idea behind them is that they were founded in honour of those that fell during the Tyrannic War iusing a few Tyrannic War veterans as their basis and are almost solely used to hunt and destroy tyranid hive fleet tendrils that threaten systems that can be saved
Bonus shot where you can actually see his scope lens:
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Absolutely incredible
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Sock, how did you paint that dark power sword?
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Hi Creed, it's basically layering outwards, using an off-white to create the successive layers.
The specific process is:
1) Basecoat with Vallejo Game Colour Night Blue
2) layer of 50/50 VGC Night Blue/ VGC Imperial Blue
3) Layer of oure VGC Imperial Blue
4) Add increasing amounts of VGC Glacier Blue to do successive layers, final edge highlight of pure VGC Glacier blue to finish . I usually do about 5 -6 layers from Imperial Blue to Glacier.
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Where did you get the shoulder pad from for that Star Phantom? Or is it sculpted?
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Sgt_Smudge wrote:Where did you get the shoulder pad from for that Star Phantom? Or is it sculpted?
Ah, if only I could sculpt like that...
It's from Plokoone's Bits on Shapeways. He no longer does this due to being busy, but I was able to ask for a custom set of 10 different chapter pads. He does full sets of Star Phantoms if that's what you want.
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Crimson Scythes Mortis Dreadnought:
For some reason the highlights on the torso really aren't showing up well and I clearly used different size drill bits on the heavy bolter barrels (prep was done intermittently over a few months) As ever with a big hunk of FW resin, edge highlighting wasn't always the easiest task.
Pretty happy with the end result, though, it seems like exactly the type of thing the Deathwatch would deploy against foul xenos threats.
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