I want to know what you guys think is the most annoying and unfun army to fight.

Necron Decurion makes the top list. But what else is just so cringe worthy?
If I cant win in a tournament, I want to make it a complete waste of your time. I want you to get mad.

EDIT: Unclear original message post leading to a bunch of people jumping to conclusions like a bunch of feminazis accusing men of rape and being misogynist for not supporting feminism. That was a very long stretch anology...

To clarify:

Say what ever army you brought to a tournament and you have to fight what ever top tier list your army is not completely prepared for, what can you do to give your player such a hard headache inducing time but at the same time remain sportsman like. So no intention slowly taking your turn. You are doing this because you know your army wont win but you could possibly get the opponent disqualified from raging so hard he flips tables and throws models.

Example : some one suggested ridding the edge of board to get massive blast templates to go off table.
another thing is setting wound counter dice upwards like instead of wounds left its counting wounds taken so it causes a miss play. Also rolling dice 1 at a time and spinning it to land on a 6 i find annoying but acceptable by the rules.

This is not a casual game. This is a game where you need to win to win a prize or you refuse to play and lose.

Similar to MTG where you flick your card loudly to distract opponents. Or granny shuffle every time you fetch a special land. Or pronounce a card in Japanese accent thinking its all cool but you just a anime fan.

edit: LOLS i am surprised that they censored w33ab00 with anime fan!

Although there is alreadh a thread as crown axe pointed out, I want to learn the most non top tier army list built specifically to annoy the top tier armies.

We already had a pool on this http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/680156.page

Also screw you for making an army just to be a jerk with

Isn't there better things in life than going through games of 40k just to ruin other people's experience?

To answer your question, decurion, tzeentch clown car, wraith knight spam, and warp spider spam.

With that kind of attitude everything will suck. So don't worry! You'll be a bad player no matter what.

I'm sure everyone at the club wants to play with you with that attitude OP.

Back in 5th, during the era of guard leafblower, I was playing a marine bike army.

I kept skirting the edges of the boards for turns 2-5 and he kept throwing blast weapons my way, getting only 2 models under each template, and scattering off the board most of the time.

He rage quit and threw his dice off the board at the start of turn 5, when he still was unable to kill more than one of my models, putting me in line to take 1st at the RTT.

 labmouse42 wrote:
Back in 5th, during the era of guard leafblower, I was playing a marine bike army.

I kept skirting the edges of the boards for turns 2-5 and he kept throwing blast weapons my way, getting only 2 models under each template, and scattering off the board most of the time.

He rage quit and threw his dice off the board at the start of turn 5, when he still was unable to kill more than one of my models, putting me in line to take 1st at the RTT.

Thats pretty epic dude and smart rather than cheesy. bravo.

Mods can we lock this thread? It's completely counterproductive and will result in:

1) everyone telling the OP how much they hate him

OR

2) literally zero productive tactical discussion

But certainly not anything except for those two things. This belongs in general discussion at best and craigslist at worst.

Personally, I hate fighting imperial knight armies the most. The game is either I have a fair number of tools to try to combat them or I just have to do what I can to minimize damage and accumulate points while accepting I can't remove a single enemy model.

Decurion does not actually bother me that much. If I was playing my Tau it would probably suck, but most of my armies are able to either remove necron units or outmaneuver and outscore them.

This thread isn't complete without the picture of the Tau/Kroot outflanking guy against the White Scar player.

*Edit* Found it

 Blacksails wrote:
This thread isn't complete without the picture of the Tau/Kroot outflanking guy against the White Scar player.

*Edit* Found it

That picture brings a smile to my face every time I see it.

 War Kitten wrote:

That picture brings a smile to my face every time I see it.

Right?

Never fails. Everything about is just *perfect*.

ITC rulings wanted to play Tau but now I am a necron!

 Blacksails wrote:
This thread isn't complete without the picture of the Tau/Kroot outflanking guy against the White Scar player.

*Edit* Found it

What is happening in that game?

 CKO wrote:
ITC rulings wanted to play Tau but now I am a necron!

Did you even try playing with the ITC nerfs?

This was 5th I believe. Kroot had outflank which let them deploy on rear table edge (if they rolled right, I think). The white scars player opted for a null deployment starting 2nd. Kroot player out flanked all his Kroot in a perfect 1" spacing all along his opponents edge, meaning the white scars player could not legally deploy his army next turn as there was no space.

 Blacksails wrote:
This was 5th I believe. Kroot had outflank which let them deploy on rear table edge (if they rolled right, I think). The white scars player opted for a null deployment starting 2nd. Kroot player out flanked all his Kroot in a perfect 1" spacing all along his opponents edge, meaning the white scars player could not legally deploy his army next turn as there was no space.

No, kroot have infiltrate he has no models on board so he could infiltrate them anywhere on the board.

CrownAxe why should I buy models and play with them knowing that the army is nerf mainly because a handful of people don't like the army? Why not play with a competitive army that has no nerfs or bias towards them such as Marines, Necrons, or Eldar? Even though they are trying to nerf the wraithknight by taking away its cover save but you know I guess its acceptable to do those type of things. Whatever I don't care anymore, I tried being an advocate but I just received hate and its not worth it.

 CrownAxe wrote:

 CKO wrote:
ITC rulings wanted to play Tau but now I am a necron!

Did you even try playing with the ITC nerfs?

Totally pointless. Tau can't win games any more. I thought about it carefully and came to this conclusion so it's true for everyone

Sunstripe wrote:

 labmouse42 wrote:
Back in 5th, during the era of guard leafblower, I was playing a marine bike army.

I kept skirting the edges of the boards for turns 2-5 and he kept throwing blast weapons my way, getting only 2 models under each template, and scattering off the board most of the time.

He rage quit and threw his dice off the board at the start of turn 5, when he still was unable to kill more than one of my models, putting me in line to take 1st at the RTT.

Thats pretty epic dude and smart rather than cheesy. bravo.

Thanks.

In those days, you could run a hard anti-meta list and sometimes do really well with them. When everyone played IG, you took a list to beat IG and you could do well in 50% of your games -- with a higher percentage of better matchups the higher you went into the rounds.

In 7th, this does not exist as much due to the variety of different armies. You might try a skyhammer to counter the Eldar scatbike/wraithknight spam, only to matchup to a gladius formation who does not care.


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 Blacksails wrote:
This thread isn't complete without the picture of the Tau/Kroot outflanking guy against the White Scar player.

That never gets old. The white scar player deserved it.

 labmouse42 wrote:
Thanks.

In those days, you could run a hard anti-meta list and sometimes do really well with them. When everyone played IG, you took a list to beat IG and you could do well in 50% of your games -- with a higher percentage of better matchups the higher you went into the rounds.

In 7th, this does not exist as much due to the variety of different armies. You might try a skyhammer to counter the Eldar scatbike/wraithknight spam, only to matchup to a gladius formation who does not care.

There is a lot of diversity but this actually does exist to an extent. It's hard to be "anti-meta" since the meta is constantly evolving but one commonality that I've noticed is a lack of flyers and therefore a lack of dedicated anti-air. It's part of why Pajamapants did so well with his Daemons Flying Circus, and is also why Tyranids have exactly one competitive notion - take 4 or 5 flyrants and round out the rest of your list with ground support.

 luke1705 wrote:
There is a lot of diversity but this actually does exist to an extent. It's hard to be "anti-meta" since the meta is constantly evolving but one commonality that I've noticed is a lack of flyers and therefore a lack of dedicated anti-air. It's part of why Pajamapants did so well with his Daemons Flying Circus, and is also why Tyranids have exactly one competitive notion - take 4 or 5 flyrants and round out the rest of your list with ground support.

I can see that. I've not ran a Flying Circus army in a while, it would be fun to play one again...and they are fairly affordable dollar wise too....

CrownAxe wrote:We already had a pool on this http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/680156.page

Also screw you for making an army just to be a jerk with

Dunno if I can report you for being rude.

luke1705 wrote:Mods can we lock this thread? It's completely counterproductive and will result in:

1) everyone telling the OP how much they hate him

OR

2) literally zero productive tactical discussion

But certainly not anything except for those two things. This belongs in general discussion at best and craigslist at worst.

Number1, People on dakka dakka been hating me for over 4 years!
Number2, Look a what labmouse42 wrote. Now that is some good situational tactics and use of environment!

Sunstripe wrote:

 labmouse42 wrote:
Back in 5th, during the era of guard leafblower, I was playing a marine bike army.

I kept skirting the edges of the boards for turns 2-5 and he kept throwing blast weapons my way, getting only 2 models under each template, and scattering off the board most of the time.

He rage quit and threw his dice off the board at the start of turn 5, when he still was unable to kill more than one of my models, putting me in line to take 1st at the RTT.

Thats pretty epic dude and smart rather than cheesy. bravo.

Now we just need some 7th ed exploits.

The overall point of all of this is to fight cheese with cheese or hate with more hate.

 luke1705 wrote:

 CrownAxe wrote:

 CKO wrote:
ITC rulings wanted to play Tau but now I am a necron!

Did you even try playing with the ITC nerfs?

Totally pointless. Tau can't win games any more. I thought about it carefully and came to this conclusion so it's true for everyone

Okay let me give you an example because you need examples.

Why give an example never mind you are right!

 CrownAxe wrote:

 CKO wrote:
ITC rulings wanted to play Tau but now I am a necron!

Did you even try playing with the ITC nerfs?

Look at the posters history. They've made multiple threads bashing ITC and yet hasn't really played under them (or even without them as he thinks Drone Factory pre-nerf was 100% not cheesy and actually terrible).

Those that are unique are easily mis-understood!

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/678916.page

My threads usually have alot of viewers and when I tried to create a positive one it was shutdown because thats how people work! The same way you assume that I am a certain way.

 labmouse42 wrote:
Back in 5th, during the era of guard leafblower, I was playing a marine bike army.

I kept skirting the edges of the boards for turns 2-5 and he kept throwing blast weapons my way, getting only 2 models under each template, and scattering off the board most of the time.

He rage quit and threw his dice off the board at the start of turn 5, when he still was unable to kill more than one of my models, putting me in line to take 1st at the RTT.

How does that tactic work in 7th? Haven't played much 7th but from what I've seen in the lists area there's still plenty of White Scars bike armies.

An army of just fortifications and drop pods.

THAT would be obnoxious.

ragequit?
lots of boyz. Can be orks, Guard, Gaunts, or other infantry that can be taken in mass. essentially, agree to a timed game, deploy, take the objectives then call time.

and if you don't use all the time alotted, go to the bathroom, get some food, or run home because you forgot 'something'.

The OP makes a new topic on this issue every couple of weeks. Last time I saw it, it was called "how to fight two armies with one" or something like that.

What are you trying to say about the OP? Is there something wrong with discussing things you dislike or believe should be kept in the dark!

WHFB: 6th ed beastmen had an interesting one where they could keep the entire army in ambush until the last turn of the game.

Last turn you'd have a few units of hounds come on to compete each table quarter and have a deathstar with khazrak and staff of darkoth try to force through a charge with magic to defeat an expensive, squishy unit for the win.

It was pretty obnoxious as it was very hard to get anything worse than a draw with and your opponent was playing by himself for the majority of the game.

 CKO wrote:

 Blacksails wrote:
This was 5th I believe. Kroot had outflank which let them deploy on rear table edge (if they rolled right, I think). The white scars player opted for a null deployment starting 2nd. Kroot player out flanked all his Kroot in a perfect 1" spacing all along his opponents edge, meaning the white scars player could not legally deploy his army next turn as there was no space.

No, kroot have infiltrate he has no models on board so he could infiltrate them anywhere on the board.

CrownAxe why should I buy models and play with them knowing that the army is nerf mainly because a handful of people don't like the army? Why not play with a competitive army that has no nerfs or bias towards them such as Marines, Necrons, or Eldar? Even though they are trying to nerf the wraithknight by taking away its cover save but you know I guess its acceptable to do those type of things. Whatever I don't care anymore, I tried being an advocate but I just received hate and its not worth it.

How are you suppose know how nerfed an army is if you haven't even played with them? All i see is an armchair general who whined himself out of playing the army he wanted to play just because of unwarrented negativity (and a Tau still get 12th at LVO, how does that mean they aren;t good?)

 CKO wrote:
What are you trying to say about the OP? Is there something wrong with discussing things you dislike or believe should be kept in the dark!

Argumentum ad hominem much?

Why focus on trying to win by cheese? Why "fight fire with fire" when you can just choose to not play those people that consistently try to have their fun at your expense? It's a game. I don't understand the types who have to get so obsessive over beating others and using the most "optimized" and "competitive" armies/lists/what-have-you. If you aren't having fun, win or lose, then maybe you should choose a more balanced competitive hobby?

The point I am making is that these posts keep reappearing because the OP is focusing on the wrong issue. Rather than worrying about stooping to their level and beating them at their own game, he should be asking himself why he plays their game at all.

Making 3 units have to fire snapshots when you pay over 400 points for a unit is not cheese, do you think its cheese?

Crownaxe I am coming back with authority, I plan on dominating tables again people have forgotten me my threads will have more meaning when I am top 8 over and over again.

Name is Chad Knight look for it on the ITC list this year!

 CKO wrote:
Making 3 units have to fire snapshots when you pay over 400 points for a unit is not cheese, do you think its cheese?

Crownaxe I am coming back with authority, I plan on dominating tables again people have forgotten me my threads will have more meaning when I am top 8 over and over again.

Name is Chad Knight look for it on the ITC list this year!

I don't care, all i see is you complaining how about weak and army you haven't even played with is.

Not weak weaker there is a difference.

 CKO wrote:
Making 3 units have to fire snapshots when you pay over 400 points for a unit is not cheese, do you think its cheese?

Crownaxe I am coming back with authority, I plan on dominating tables again people have forgotten me my threads will have more meaning when I am top 8 over and over again.

Name is Chad Knight look for it on the ITC list this year!

Lol I thought your a SM player that was gonna go Tau, now Necrons?

Plenty of good Decurion armies for you to net list I guess haha

 CKO wrote:
Not weak weaker there is a difference.

Oh no they got weaker and still got 12th at LVO. They are so weaker that they still are at the power level of other top tier codexs

 CKO wrote:
Making 3 units have to fire snapshots when you pay over 400 points for a unit is not cheese, do you think its cheese?

Crownaxe I am coming back with authority, I plan on dominating tables again people have forgotten me my threads will have more meaning when I am top 8 over and over again.

Name is Chad Knight look for it on the ITC list this year!

just buy some models dude. Hopefully, when you do, there won't be any major nerfs of your chosen army as there were for tau. What is that thing about overcoming adversity?

Space wolves servitor spam each 10 points will give you an other unit and they all have to roll for mind lock each turn. This gets annoying real fast. Have fun sort off :\

I will start a tactic thread about my theory list to see what everyone thinks, I am at work but when I get home I will start a new thread!

Played vs Ravenwing Biker Spam last weekend - shot everything into the Darkshroud (2+) re-rollable and got a single pen for shaken, gg after that.

Hey, I'll just shoot you with - uh no, re-rollable cover save 3+ or even 2+ if close enough to the Darkshroud. Overwatch? Nope, not allowed. Didn't have any dedicated melee units so yeah, that was it.

 mrveng wrote:

 labmouse42 wrote:
Back in 5th, during the era of guard leafblower, I was playing a marine bike army.

I kept skirting the edges of the boards for turns 2-5 and he kept throwing blast weapons my way, getting only 2 models under each template, and scattering off the board most of the time.

He rage quit and threw his dice off the board at the start of turn 5, when he still was unable to kill more than one of my models, putting me in line to take 1st at the RTT.

How does that tactic work in 7th? Haven't played much 7th but from what I've seen in the lists area there's still plenty of White Scars bike armies.

It doesn't. Manticore/LRBT spam is no longer the big threat to your armies. The reason for skirting the board was to ignore the blast templates, which are not as big of a problem in 7th. Armies now generally just gun you down from number of shots, which a 7th edition bike army does not need to worry about.

Also, in 5th, the game was decided about who had the objectives at the end of the game. In 7th, Malestrom missions and NOVA missions give points each turn for holding objectives.

 CrownAxe wrote:
We already had a pool on this http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/680156.page

Also screw you for making an army just to be a jerk with

Yaaaaay, my thread has been linked!

But for real....lolzwut?

 FoxPhoenix135 wrote:

 CKO wrote:
What are you trying to say about the OP? Is there something wrong with discussing things you dislike or believe should be kept in the dark!

Argumentum ad hominem much?

Why focus on trying to win by cheese? Why "fight fire with fire" when you can just choose to not play those people that consistently try to have their fun at your expense? It's a game. I don't understand the types who have to get so obsessive over beating others and using the most "optimized" and "competitive" armies/lists/what-have-you. If you aren't having fun, win or lose, then maybe you should choose a more balanced competitive hobby?

The point I am making is that these posts keep reappearing because the OP is focusing on the wrong issue. Rather than worrying about stooping to their level and beating them at their own game, he should be asking himself why he plays their game at all.

Let me elaborate.

You find your self in an environment full of cheese and you know you cant win but you want to sand bag this mffer for bringing 5 wraith knights with a bunch of scat bikes or what ever gladius army.

Better yet, you enter with the soul purpose to annoy people with the least competitive list possible. You build the list not to win but to annoy the heck out of these neckbeards that exploit the game. Especially annoy thise who whine and get their way thru rules lawyering, you seek to throw in a unit interactions thaf break the rule or ambiguous interpretation.

There was this flow chart for mtg that showed you how to build deck with hate.

Just go unbound with a lot of beast packs, as many single man units as you can fit multiples are 10 pts in. Constantly tell them they killed just 10 pts and that it was a good shot.

Might even win on objectives.

Bit don't worry, its not the list, its the attitude that determines how fun you are to play against.

The whole point is to get your opponents to flip a table and rage so hard they get escorted out and disqualified.

AncientSkarbrand wrote:
Isn't there better things in life than going through games of 40k just to ruin other people's experience?

To answer your question, decurion, tzeentch clown car, wraith knight spam, and warp spider spam.

As a non-optimizing space marines player, I actually don't necessarily mind playing against tzeentch clown car (that's more units I can kill with boltguns) or necron decurion. I will get annoyed if you bring the necron vehicles that spam AP 1 large blasts, but simply bringing hordes of 4+ armor, 4+ rerollable reanimation protocols infantry? Bring it.

I don't really care if I win. I just want to see units dying and tanks blowing up on both sides of the table.

But if you spam monstrous creatures, high AV tanks or fliers? Don't expect me to play you a second time.

And if you play Tau or something even resembling competitive Eldar, don't expect me to play you once.


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 Filch wrote:
The whole point is to get your opponents to flip a table and rage so hard they get escorted out and disqualified.

If that's your goal, then I recommend consulting a psychiatrist. You might be (read: "probably are") a sociopath.

Traditio wrote:
And if you play Tau or something even resembling competitive Eldar, don't expect me to play you once.

 Filch wrote:
The whole point is to get your opponents to flip a table and rage so hard they get escorted out and disqualified.

If that's your goal, then I recommend consulting a psychiatrist. You might be (read: "probably are") a sociopath.

Or not. I would also consider consulting one yourself: your close-mindedness is rather overpowering.

Honestly, you're going to deny them a game without so much as playing them once?

 Sgt_Smudge wrote:
Or not. I would also consider consulting one yourself: your close-mindedness is rather overpowering.

Look up the symptoms of sociopathy/psychopathy.

Honestly, you're going to deny them a game without so much as playing them once?

What's the point? If I know in advance how the battle is going to go, why bother deploying in the first place?

Sounds like a massive waste of time to me.

Traditio wrote:

 Sgt_Smudge wrote:
Or not. I would also consider consulting one yourself: your close-mindedness is rather overpowering.

Look up the symptoms of sociopathy/psychopathy.

(Are you insinuating I don't already recognise those fields? Much less have personal experience with them? And if you can identify a person's mental state from a single forum post, that may or may not be exaggeration, I would advise you advertise this ability far more.)

Honestly, you're going to deny them a game without so much as playing them once?

What's the point? If I know in advance how the battle is going to go, why bother deploying in the first place?

Sounds like a massive waste of time to me.

Why bother playing an even game then? Surely a single dice roll would suffice then? 1-3 = you win, 4-6 = I win.

You're generalising a whole two factions, factions that Space Marines can beat. You won't even entertain the idea of playing them? Not even if the game might be more enjoyable than a person literally saying nothing and interacting in no way with you? In which case, we may have found a winner for the thread.

 Sgt_Smudge wrote:
(Are you insinuating I don't already recognise those fields? Much less have personal experience with them? And if you can identify a person's mental state from a single forum post, that may or may not be exaggeration, I would advise you advertise this ability far more.)

His stated purpose is to play an army that will indiscriminately make people so angry that they will flip the tables at a tournament, thereby requiring that they be escorted out and disqualified.

Does he have a specific player in mind, against whom he has a grudge?

No?

Then his statement speaks for itself.

If you don't see this as problematic, then I'm afraid that I simply can't help you.

Why bother playing an even game then?

A relatively even game is the only one worth playing, since only a relatively even game makes the outcome of the game dependent solely on player skill, insofar as reflected in in-game decisions.

I'm sorry, but I don't want want to have a footrace against you if my feet are tied together and you are wearing jet-powered roller-skates.

Surely a single dice roll would suffice then? 1-3 = you win, 4-6 = I win.

Is that how you play chess?

You're generalising a whole two factions, factions that Space Marines can beat.

Space marines, generally speaking, can beat them, presupposing they run very specific kinds of armies.

I don't run that kind of army.

You won't even entertain the idea of playing them?

Not unless there are compelling reasons to the contrary.

Not even if the game might be more enjoyable than a person literally saying nothing and interacting in no way with you?

This is such a loaded question.

With respect to the former, it might well be the case that the player is a "fun" player who just so happens to run an army that mine has no chance of beating, or even of remotely providing a challenge against. The player very well might be sociable and enjoyable to hang out with.

But there's simply no point in playing that game. I might as well spectate him playing a game with someone else.

I suppose the part that does not solicit a well thought out response to the OP is this zinger:

"If I cant win in a tournament, I want to make it a complete waste of your time. I want you to get mad."
I assume this is the winning strategy: by getting people to quit because they cannot stand being in close proximity of his bad behavior?

Obviously he likes to play on a more personal and emotional level.
I keep feeling this runs afoul of "Rule #1" of being polite somewhere...
Yep, he really need to let that be known up front, so people can move-on to more productive use of their time.

I personally just keep shifting my goals if the game starts going south on me.
It is FAR better to give a black eye to your opponent's army than sit back and get stomped or just concede.
I find when I come across people who try to "ruin" the experience I just get more polite and smile mockingly (drives them crazy!).

I play Tau. I run suit heavy - 30+ crisis suits, 6 broadsides, 3 riptides, & a stormsurge.
however
it isn't the entirety of my army, and my suits are magnetized.

I'd ask a simple question: what kind of game do you want to play? if Traditio refuses even after that, he's the TFG, not me.

if you are willing to change your play style in your opponent's favor, then by all means do so. It makes for an entertaining mental exercise if nothing else, the mental flexibility, the willingness to be water to your opponent's granite.

Traditio wrote:

 Sgt_Smudge wrote:
(Are you insinuating I don't already recognise those fields? Much less have personal experience with them? And if you can identify a person's mental state from a single forum post, that may or may not be exaggeration, I would advise you advertise this ability far more.)

His stated purpose is to play an army that will indiscriminately make people so angry that they will flip the tables at a tournament, thereby requiring that they be escorted out and disqualified.

Does he have a specific player in mind, against whom he has a grudge?

No?

Then his statement speaks for itself.

If you don't see this as problematic, then I'm afraid that I simply can't help you.

Why bother playing an even game then?

A relatively even game is the only one worth playing, since only a relatively even game makes the outcome of the game dependent solely on player skill, insofar as reflected in in-game decisions.

I'm sorry, but I don't want want to have a footrace against you if my feet are tied together and you are wearing jet-powered roller-skates.

Surely a single dice roll would suffice then? 1-3 = you win, 4-6 = I win.

Is that how you play chess?

You're generalising a whole two factions, factions that Space Marines can beat.

Space marines, generally speaking, can beat them, presupposing they run very specific kinds of armies.

I don't run that kind of army.

You won't even entertain the idea of playing them?

Not unless there are compelling reasons to the contrary.

Not even if the game might be more enjoyable than a person literally saying nothing and interacting in no way with you?

This is such a loaded question.

With respect to the former, it might well be the case that the player is a "fun" player who just so happens to run an army that mine has no chance of beating, or even of remotely providing a challenge against. The player very well might be sociable and enjoyable to hang out with.

But there's simply no point in playing that game. I might as well spectate him playing a game with someone else.

I'm a psychologist and I now diagnose you both as "so anally retort I'm afraid if you sit down you might suck up the furniture"

On a more interesting note I prefer playing more difficult games against tau or necrons because its a real challenge, If I win I get a greater sense of accomplishment. Reguardless of how overpowered an army is (to a degree) tactically speaking there are always ways to outmanouver the opponent and win the game, and if you are fighting Tau or Necrons utilise everything you have. Proffessional tounaments are competitions that require cheesy strategies and advanced knowledge of the rules if your playing for fun play a more casual tournament. That being said don't be an ass and use broken strategies in casual games

Reavas, practice for tournaments really is a thing, but it requires your opponent to know about it ahead of time. If you want to bring a ballbuster list to a casual game night there is nothing wrong with doing so, but you should pay your opponent the compliment of warning them ahead of time. That way, you might actually get a decent game out of it. If you just want to beat on a defenseless animal, may I suggest baby chicks with a baseball bat, then at least the local wildlife can eat well afterwards.

a note. by you I don't actually mean you. I mean anyone that wants to act like a sociopath, like no one else is real.

 Talizvar wrote:
I suppose the part that does not solicit a well thought out response to the OP is this zinger:

"If I cant win in a tournament, I want to make it a complete waste of your time. I want you to get mad."
I assume this is the winning strategy: by getting people to quit because they cannot stand being in close proximity of his bad behavior?

Obviously he likes to play on a more personal and emotional level.
I keep feeling this runs afoul of "Rule #1" of being polite somewhere...
Yep, he really need to let that be known up front, so people can move-on to more productive use of their time.

I personally just keep shifting my goals if the game starts going south on me.
It is FAR better to give a black eye to your opponent's army than sit back and get stomped or just concede.
I find when I come across people who try to "ruin" the experience I just get more polite and smile mockingly (drives them crazy!).

Let me elaborate. You gotta make your opponent lose his cool while you remain all sportsman like.

 Filch wrote:

 Talizvar wrote:
I suppose the part that does not solicit a well thought out response to the OP is this zinger:

"If I cant win in a tournament, I want to make it a complete waste of your time. I want you to get mad."
I assume this is the winning strategy: by getting people to quit because they cannot stand being in close proximity of his bad behavior?

Obviously he likes to play on a more personal and emotional level.
I keep feeling this runs afoul of "Rule #1" of being polite somewhere...
Yep, he really need to let that be known up front, so people can move-on to more productive use of their time.

I personally just keep shifting my goals if the game starts going south on me.
It is FAR better to give a black eye to your opponent's army than sit back and get stomped or just concede.
I find when I come across people who try to "ruin" the experience I just get more polite and smile mockingly (drives them crazy!).

Let me elaborate. You gotta make your opponent lose his cool while you remain all sportsman like.

Good players aren't going to lose their cool just because of the army you bring

 Filch wrote:
Let me elaborate. You gotta make your opponent lose his cool while you remain all sportsman like.

Ah, so if there is no impoliteness or cheating, I would have no problem with it.
I am a bit confused then on how the "complete waste of your time" kicks in, like taking forever to execute your turn or something.

I LIKE a hard game.
Even better when both of us know it is a no-holds-barred kind of game which tournaments are (but still within the rules!).

The ways a game can be a waste of time for me is, if I win too easily, the person is spending equal time trying out mind-game tactics or they cheat... a lot.

 carldooley wrote:
I play Tau. I run suit heavy - 30+ crisis suits, 6 broadsides, 3 riptides, & a stormsurge.
however
it isn't the entirety of my army, and my suits are magnetized.

I'd ask a simple question: what kind of game do you want to play? if Traditio refuses even after that, he's the TFG, not me.

I'm a TFG because I don't want to play against you?

Well somebody has an incredibly high opinion of himself.

Traditio wrote:

 carldooley wrote:
I play Tau. I run suit heavy - 30+ crisis suits, 6 broadsides, 3 riptides, & a stormsurge.
however
it isn't the entirety of my army, and my suits are magnetized.

I'd ask a simple question: what kind of game do you want to play? if Traditio refuses even after that, he's the TFG, not me.

I'm a TFG because I don't want to play against you?

Well somebody has an incredibly high opinion of himself.

Although I don't necessarily agree with your reasons for denying a person a game, I still agree that it is completely your decision whether to play a person or not. This is a game of consent, really. Nobody can force you to do anything, and that is the flaw in the entire premise of this thread: that the OP seems to think you can force anybody to feel angry because of a list you brought. It's just a logical fallacy.

If a guy took a look at my army and said "No, that army looks too hard to beat / too meta, I'll pass" there is no reason to call him TFG. It's a game. He can choose to play or not. Honestly, I'd rather him not play if he had doubts about whether he'd have fun or not. When I play games at my local store, I usually pick opponents that I know are there to roll some dice and have a good time. Beerhammer is a much better way to spend the afternoon, rather than arguing with a rules-lawyer or combing over a list in an effort to make it 5 points more efficient.

Traditio wrote:
Well somebody has an incredibly high opinion of himself.

not really. I'm usually happy enough to get a game that I'll let my opponent set terms. You are welcome to think so though.

 FoxPhoenix135 wrote:

Traditio wrote:

 carldooley wrote:
I play Tau. I run suit heavy - 30+ crisis suits, 6 broadsides, 3 riptides, & a stormsurge.
however
it isn't the entirety of my army, and my suits are magnetized.

I'd ask a simple question: what kind of game do you want to play? if Traditio refuses even after that, he's the TFG, not me.

I'm a TFG because I don't want to play against you?

Well somebody has an incredibly high opinion of himself.

Although I don't necessarily agree with your reasons for denying a person a game, I still agree that it is completely your decision whether to play a person or not. This is a game of consent, really. Nobody can force you to do anything, and that is the flaw in the entire premise of this thread: that the OP seems to think you can force anybody to feel angry because of a list you brought. It's just a logical fallacy.

If a guy took a look at my army and said "No, that army looks too hard to beat / too meta, I'll pass" there is no reason to call him TFG. It's a game. He can choose to play or not. Honestly, I'd rather him not play if he had doubts about whether he'd have fun or not. When I play games at my local store, I usually pick opponents that I know are there to roll some dice and have a good time. Beerhammer is a much better way to spend the afternoon, rather than arguing with a rules-lawyer or combing over a list in an effort to make it 5 points more efficient.

I guess I was not clear. You are in a major tournament where YOU ARE FORCED, to play random people bringing top tier lists and if you choose not to then you are disqualified and dont win prize. NOT HELD DOWN AND RAPED at a flgs.

 Filch wrote:

 FoxPhoenix135 wrote:

Traditio wrote:

 carldooley wrote:
I play Tau. I run suit heavy - 30+ crisis suits, 6 broadsides, 3 riptides, & a stormsurge.
however
it isn't the entirety of my army, and my suits are magnetized.

I'd ask a simple question: what kind of game do you want to play? if Traditio refuses even after that, he's the TFG, not me.

I'm a TFG because I don't want to play against you?

Well somebody has an incredibly high opinion of himself.

Although I don't necessarily agree with your reasons for denying a person a game, I still agree that it is completely your decision whether to play a person or not. This is a game of consent, really. Nobody can force you to do anything, and that is the flaw in the entire premise of this thread: that the OP seems to think you can force anybody to feel angry because of a list you brought. It's just a logical fallacy.

If a guy took a look at my army and said "No, that army looks too hard to beat / too meta, I'll pass" there is no reason to call him TFG. It's a game. He can choose to play or not. Honestly, I'd rather him not play if he had doubts about whether he'd have fun or not. When I play games at my local store, I usually pick opponents that I know are there to roll some dice and have a good time. Beerhammer is a much better way to spend the afternoon, rather than arguing with a rules-lawyer or combing over a list in an effort to make it 5 points more efficient.

I guess I was not clear. You are in a major tournament where YOU ARE FORCED TO PLAY AGAINST RANDOM PEOPLE PLAYING TOP TIER LISTS. NOT HELD DOWN AND RAPED...

That doesn't change his point that you can't force your opponent to feel angry or rage-quit. The fact that your whole plan hinges on eliciting a negative reaction from your opponent is not only deplorable but really sad, in fact how will you react if the majority of the people you face end up being super chill or stoic and don't give you what you want? It's not that unbelievable either, given that in a tournament setting people are expecting balls-to-the-walls lists anyways and will be more prepared than most gamers for cheese/etc.

 carldooley wrote:
not really. I'm usually happy enough to get a game that I'll let my opponent set terms. You are welcome to think so though.

Why do you think I am TFG for refusing to play you?

Do you think that you are entitled to a game? Do I owe you roughly 2 hours of my time?

I don't even know you. Are random strangers obliged to play warhammer with you?

Traditio wrote:

 carldooley wrote:
not really. I'm usually happy enough to get a game that I'll let my opponent set terms. You are welcome to think so though.

Why do you think I am TFG for refusing to play you?

Do you think that you are entitled to a game? Do I owe you roughly 2 hours of my time?

I don't even know you. Are random strangers obliged to play warhammer with you?

why refuse to play tau? there are armies that I don't like to play against admittedly, but I wouldn't refuse anyone a game. You don't owe me anything admittedly, but a confrontational stance like yours is almost begging to be prodded with a stick.

To be perfectly honest, you don't have a location posted, and I have no honest way to know whether or not I'd actually have the ability to play a game against you anyway. But, in a casual environment, if you go to a game night for a game and the only other person that shows up brings tau, you would seriously refuse a game? When there is no one else to play against? In my honest opinion, that makes you TFG.

 carldooley wrote:
why refuse to play tau? there are armies that I don't like to play against admittedly, but I wouldn't refuse anyone a game. You don't owe me anything admittedly, but a confrontational stance like yours is almost begging to be prodded with a stick.

With all due respect, the only person in this thread to whom I've taken on an intentionally "confrontational stance" is the OP. He has displayed a clear lack of empathy and lack of regard for other people that, frankly, I consider positively deplorable and in need of serious self-reflection and adjustment.

The question in this thread, as far as I've understood it, are "what kinds of armies do you find annoying/rage inducing, sufficient to incline you not to play?"

For me, tau is one of them.

I play an army that consists primarily of space marines on foot. I don't want to play tau, because no matter what list you bring, the game is going to have the same result: I am going to run my guys across the board, get them shot off the board, and otherwise do diddly squat.

The only way to make it even remotely even is if you agree not to bring riptides, crisis suits and whatever that OP vehicle it is that you guys use, and you still agree to a points disadvantage...and frankly, that just seems cheap.

I'm sorry, but I don't want to play a game of 52 pick up.

You might be a positively fun and lovely person to hang out with; don't get me wrong.

But that's not a game that I want to play.

To be perfectly honest, you don't have a location posted, and I have no honest way to know whether or not I'd actually have the ability to play a game against you anyway. But, in a casual environment, if you go to a game night for a game and the only other person that shows up brings tau, you would seriously refuse a game? When there is no one else to play against? In my honest opinion, that makes you TFG.

Why should I spend 2 and a half hours of my time (or more if we're playing on Vassal) playing 52 pick up when I just as easily could go home and "do literally anything else"?*


*Bonus points for anyone who catches the reference.

Update; I edited the original post to clarify what i really wanted to disgust i mean discuss.

 Filch wrote:
Similar to MTG where you flick your card loudly to distract opponents. Or granny shuffle every time you fetch a special land. Or pronounce a card in Japanese accent thinking its all cool but you just a anime fan.

Shame on you. That's just unsportsmanlike.

So you immediately assume i do that? that is what people do to me!

 Filch wrote:
So you immediately assume i do that? that is what people do to me!

Well shame on them!

Shame!

Shame!

Shame on everybody! Dishonor!

Can you chill out?

 Filch wrote:
Can you chill out?

"Dishonor! Dishonor on your whole family! Dishonor on you. Dishonor on your cow!"

 Filch wrote:
So you immediately assume i do that? that is what people do to me!

Well you -are- asking for new ways in which to do the same back to your opponents, so yes, we assume you at least plan to do unsportsmanlike things, if you don't do them already. Maybe people treat you like this because you are known as the club's TFG?

 FoxPhoenix135 wrote:

 Filch wrote:
So you immediately assume i do that? that is what people do to me!

Well you -are- asking for new ways in which to do the same back to your opponents, so yes, we assume you at least plan to do unsportsmanlike things, if you don't do them already. Maybe people treat you like this because you are known as the club's TFG?

He also just recently posted a thread where he shared with us an anecdote where he outright says his main reason for playing 40K is making people pissed off and almost lose their composure. Class act this guy is.

To give an honest answer to the OP, it would be difficult to create a one size fits all army to irritate top tier.
Assuming the player can be irritated at all (since you will not be cheating or unsportsmanlike).

Anything that prevents the player from doing something they want to do.
Prevent model removal (it is all about killing stuff).
Dominating some element of the game completely.
Means of attacking and your opponent unable to reply in kind.

Those points lean me toward psychic abilities for things like being shrouded.
Multi-wound models would be preferred.
Feel no pain is a plus.
Being able to shoot and hide is "evil".
Fielding one or many models your opponent is unlikely to kill (that is why aircraft was hated/loved so much)
The ability to deep-strike to hit the enemy where they are most vulnerable.
Create choke-points / kill zones to funnel the enemy and kill them piecemeal (terrain placement is serious stuff).

Eldar is still looking like the go-to with maybe some DE allies.

Oddly, the most frustrating elements of a game is a reasonable winning strategy.
It would still not be rage inducing.
If the person is competitive they would just look at it as a puzzle to crack.

 FoxPhoenix135 wrote:

 Filch wrote:
So you immediately assume i do that? that is what people do to me!

Well you -are- asking for new ways in which to do the same back to your opponents, so yes, we assume you at least plan to do unsportsmanlike things, if you don't do them already. Maybe people treat you like this because you are known as the club's TFG?

I am not tfg. TFG actually wins! Unlike me! I am just a Scrub lord who just fails a lot.

oh and that other post was ment to shed some light on why I am doing things the way i do.

Oh well.
To irritate or take some strange revenge all within the realm of a hobby meant for fun and to relax is a rather strange thing.
I would even say the OP should move on to something a little less competitive since it is getting a rather nasty focus to it.
Anyway, I am sure a lock is coming shortly...

The way I saw OP's original request -
A desire for troll tactics that feths with your opponent's head and/or throws him off his game.
Now this can be done positively, without engendering hatred or bad feelings.

I find the best way is to find a gimmick you find fun and then take that gimmick up to 11.

Some quick suggestions off the top of my head -

1. Tyranid Spore Army. Multiple Maxed Sporefield Formations. Sporocysts. Meiotic Spores. Looks hilarious on the battlefield, VERY annoying to deal with and does naturally waste time (with spore creation, deepstriking and movement etc.).

2. Necron Teleporty Army. Veil and Obyron. Deathmarks. Monoliths. Rather nasty to be on the receiving end of and can cause confusion and then rage when you teleport everything on top of your opponent's favourite unit and obliterate it etc.

3. All Officio Assassinorum army. Very low model count and yet very killy. Played well, those few models will cause many a headache for your opponent. As an added bonus, you could complain about how long he takes to do his turn!

Even if your goal is to screw with your opponent. Don't be a dick. Have a good attitude. Have fun. Maybe they'll even play your army again and you can troll them some more

Op, you seem like a classy guy. Please never come anywhere near the store I play at.

 Otto Weston wrote:
The way I saw OP's original request -
A desire for troll tactics that feths with your opponent's head and/or throws him off his game.
Now this can be done positively, without engendering hatred or bad feelings.

I find the best way is to find a gimmick you find fun and then take that gimmick up to 11.

Some quick suggestions off the top of my head -

1. Tyranid Spore Army. Multiple Maxed Sporefield Formations. Sporocysts. Meiotic Spores. Looks hilarious on the battlefield, VERY annoying to deal with and does naturally waste time (with spore creation, deepstriking and movement etc.).

2. Necron Teleporty Army. Veil and Obyron. Deathmarks. Monoliths. Rather nasty to be on the receiving end of and can cause confusion and then rage when you teleport everything on top of your opponent's favourite unit and obliterate it etc.

3. All Officio Assassinorum army. Very low model count and yet very killy. Played well, those few models will cause many a headache for your opponent. As an added bonus, you could complain about how long he takes to do his turn!

Even if your goal is to screw with your opponent. Don't be a dick. Have a good attitude. Have fun. Maybe they'll even play your army again and you can troll them some more

You are on the right track!

Anyone else has a similar suggestion?

btw, jreilly89 thank you for your sarcastic remark. It is like a cheap shot sucker punch to my ball but I got balls of steel. What I love about this community at dakka is that people always have something snarky to say like, Please lock this topic, screw you original poster, the orignal poster should seek mental health. Its like they are trying to cusss me out but cant really do that so they have to be so sarcastic by calling me classy or they get banned. I dont mind all these personal attacks because your 2 cents cant buy you 2 gumballs.

So in all, I want to find more ways to play mind games and or gimmicky lists that exploit wh40k just like dredge and affinity and other infinity combos in mtg. And if you wanna come in here and attack me personally because this topic goes against your morality then go ahead I dont care what you have to say.

 Filch wrote:
btw, jreilly89 thank you for your sarcastic remark. It is like a cheap shot sucker punch to my ball but I got balls of steel.

I suspect that was a genuine heartfelt comment. I am pretty sure you saw this coming, so no "sucker punch" there.

What I love about this community at dakka is that people always have something snarky to say like, Please lock this topic, screw you original poster, the orignal poster should seek mental health.

Well, when you feed the troll...

Its like they are trying to cusss me out but cant really do that so they have to be so sarcastic by calling me classy or they get banned.

It is cathartic when you can get others to act as badly as yourself I agree.

I dont mind all these personal attacks because your 2 cents cant buy you 2 gumballs. <snip> And if you wanna come in here and attack me personally because this topic goes against your morality then go ahead I dont care what you have to say.

I am not sure I mind so much about going against morality.
I like to game.
You anger enough people to "rage quit" it is one less person to game and your behavior becomes a "gaming nightmare" topic later that lumps 40k gamers as a bunch of haters.
Your quest for irritation is anti-community and is pretty much as selfish as it gets.

This does not add to the hobby and you hope the very people you seek to anger will hand you the keys to do it.

Traditio wrote:

 Filch wrote:
Can you chill out?

"Dishonor! Dishonor on your whole family! Dishonor on you. Dishonor on your cow!"

Okay that was just too funny to not exault....I wonder how many actually got the reference heheh

lols, he spelled exalt wrong!

anyways I found this old nugget.
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/670827.page#8267911

 Fishboy wrote:

Traditio wrote:

 Filch wrote:
Can you chill out?

"Dishonor! Dishonor on your whole family! Dishonor on you. Dishonor on your cow!"

Okay that was just too funny to not exault....I wonder how many actually got the reference heheh

THAT MY SHIRT!

Some troll (anti meta?) armies:

1. Drop Pod Walls. Take a cheap HQ, 2 tac squads with pods and 3 FA pods... repeat until available points are filled up. Proceed to troll your opponent as they either roll their eyes and slowly kill all the drop pods, or lose because they don't have enough firepower to remove pods from objectives.

2. Tyranid Wack-a-Mawloc? Take as many Mawlocs as you can fit into a cheap CAD and repeat until points are filled. Proceed to play wack-a-mawloc with the opponent.

Most of these armies will either be highly entertaining for the opponent or very frustrating. Either way, your goal isn't to win but instead to exploit a rule to the point that you basicly change the way the game is played. I think that fits the type of army you're looking for? Wack-a-Mawloc especially sounds fun.

Umm... there was the old thing about modelling the models wings around itself so that the actual body couldnt be seen (therefore it couldnt be targeted ,or do targetting for that matter, with most shooting). But that is more modelling to advantage than anything.

Similarly, there is leaning jetbike models back to make it difficult to see the riders. Not modelling to advantage this time, just a rules lawyer stretch.

You can do super MSU to mitigate losses. Better unbound, but still works in bound.

You can move your horde army through terrain (legitimately drives me nuts, even at a good pace)

You can hold yourself and the opponent in combat with Smash attacks instead of breaking and allowing shots/movement to/from both units.

You might be able to completely hide a single model unit in a tightly compacted ADL. Though, certain tall units may still see them... Then Rippers maybe?

You can feed fast junk units into assault to stop shooting for a turn or two.

Go second and contest away with fast throwaways.

Mostly iffy plots, some well known and embraced ones. Overall, just make them work for it.

Zimko wrote:

1. Drop Pod Walls. Take a cheap HQ, 2 tac squads with pods and 3 FA pods... repeat until available points are filled up. Proceed to troll your opponent as they either roll their eyes and slowly kill all the drop pods, or lose because they don't have enough firepower to remove pods from objectives.
.

I'm pretty sure just running Gladius with maximum Drop Pod output it better than spamming min/max cad. Lemme check:

5 CADs at 1830:
5 Techmarines (cheapest HQ and can repair pods! yay!)
10 Tactical (5mans) al with Dedicated Pods
13 FA Pods (3+3+3+3+1)
TOTAL: 23 pods

1 Gladius Strike Force at 1695:
Captain
Chaplain
6 Tacticals (5mans)
2 Assaults (5mans)
2 Devs (5mans)
2 Command (5mans)
2 Dreadnaughts (Vanilla)
3 Sternguard (5man, Auxillary)
TOTAL: 17 pods (with points remaining for upgrades),
(I did the math, you can't fit 1 HQ, 1 Troop (with Pod) and 1 FA Pod with the remaining points. The total cost of the Gladius was already barebones so I can't scrap off anymore points.

Comparing them:
All pod min/max:
55 bodies and 23 pods
Gladius min/max:
77 bodies, 2 dreads, and 17 pods

This really makes me want to finish my other 8 pods, but at that point I'd only have 16 D:

A Troll thread? Hmm.

You must be lost.

League of Legends is this way ->

<- MTG is that way

 Filch wrote:
lols, he spelled exalt wrong!

anyways I found this old nugget.
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/670827.page#8267911

Uh...uh...maybe I was going for the old English spelling heheh

ooh, M:tG trolls. . . Knowledge Pool & Rule of Law
League of Legends? sorry I don't play that one.

Is Coteaz still legal? a Hundred point HQ with nasty STI shenanigans, and more twelve point troop units than most people can shake a stick at.

1500 points of unbound lone wolves in terminator armor, loadout to taste

I've annoyed my friends with an inquisition list made of small squads of Jokaero in Chimera's. The Inquisitorial Chimera's still have 5 fire points, and so if you put 5 Jokaero in them they can get pretty annoying with all of those lascannon shots. Plus the Jokaero upgrade each other's weapons. Couple this with some Jokaero in Valkyries and your opponent can get rather salty if I do say so myself.

Filch wrote:I want to know what you guys think is the most annoying and unfun army to fight.

Necron Decurion makes the top list. But what else is just so cringe worthy?
If I cant win in a tournament, I want to make it a complete waste of your time. I want you to get mad.

EDIT: Unclear original message post leading to a bunch of people jumping to conclusions like a bunch of feminazis accusing men of rape and being misogynist for not supporting feminism. That was a very long stretch anology...

To clarify:

Say what ever army you brought to a tournament and you have to fight what ever top tier list your army is not completely prepared for, what can you do to give your player such a hard headache inducing time but at the same time remain sportsman like. So no intention slowly taking your turn. You are doing this because you know your army wont win but you could possibly get the opponent disqualified from raging so hard he flips tables and throws models.

Example : some one suggested ridding the edge of board to get massive blast templates to go off table.
another thing is setting wound counter dice upwards like instead of wounds left its counting wounds taken so it causes a miss play. Also rolling dice 1 at a time and spinning it to land on a 6 i find annoying but acceptable by the rules.

This is not a casual game. This is a game where you need to win to win a prize or you refuse to play and lose.

Similar to MTG where you flick your card loudly to distract opponents. Or granny shuffle every time you fetch a special land. Or pronounce a card in Japanese accent thinking its all cool but you just a anime fan.

So let me understand this correctly:

You want a list and/or adopt a general strategy that will induce a negative gaming experience for your opponent to the point where they get themselves disqualified just so you can win in a scenario where you know you can't?

Or (if I understand the quote below correctly) you want to beat a player who's using dirty/cheesy tactics and/or lists by dropping yourself to their level and doing exactly the same thing?

Filch wrote:

CrownAxe wrote:We already had a pool on this http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/680156.page

Also screw you for making an army just to be a jerk with

Dunno if I can report you for being rude.

luke1705 wrote:Mods can we lock this thread? It's completely counterproductive and will result in:

1) everyone telling the OP how much they hate him

OR

2) literally zero productive tactical discussion

But certainly not anything except for those two things. This belongs in general discussion at best and craigslist at worst.

Number1, People on dakka dakka been hating me for over 4 years!
Number2, Look a what labmouse42 wrote. Now that is some good situational tactics and use of environment!

Sunstripe wrote:

 labmouse42 wrote:
Back in 5th, during the era of guard leafblower, I was playing a marine bike army.

I kept skirting the edges of the boards for turns 2-5 and he kept throwing blast weapons my way, getting only 2 models under each template, and scattering off the board most of the time.

He rage quit and threw his dice off the board at the start of turn 5, when he still was unable to kill more than one of my models, putting me in line to take 1st at the RTT.

Thats pretty epic dude and smart rather than cheesy. bravo.

Now we just need some 7th ed exploits.

The overall point of all of this is to fight cheese with cheese or hate with more hate.

@ Your response to CrownAxe: His wording may not be the epitome of polite, but he has a point, so suck it up.

@ Your response to luke1705: If people on this forum have "... been hating on [you] for over 4 years...", it might something to think on and fix rather than use as an argument to dismiss Luke's point.


As for your original question/statement: If I understand you correctly and you're trying to combat a situation where you know you can't win, then take it on the chin. Take the loss. You've been beaten by somebody with a stronger list, better tactics, or possibly both. The only other thing I can recommend you do is try to bring a more competitive list in the future.

This thread is bad and the OP should feel bad...

 Cieged wrote:
A Troll thread? Hmm.

You must be lost.

League of Legends is this way ->

<- MTG is that way

I would say something but this exalted post said it all!

 Zywus wrote:
This thread is bad and the OP should feel bad...

You remind me of this picture...

Walking up to someone else while they are playing and complaining about their army. Make sure to do it so loud that they cannot hear their opponent. Also, position yourself between them and the table. Stand in their way as much as possible.

Lols, some guy hated my cruddy weak army so much he offered $100 to buy and destroy my entire collection and quite wh40k cold turkey!

I refused because the offer was way too low.

Perhaps I should set up a kick starter campaign to get contributors to send money for me to quit wh40k and stop posting on dakka dakka!!!

 Filch wrote:
Lols, some guy hated my cruddy weak army so much he offered $100 to buy and destroy my entire collection and quite wh40k cold turkey!

I refused because the offer was way too low.

Perhaps I should set up a kick starter campaign to get contributors to send money for me to quit wh40k and stop posting on dakka dakka!!!

Thou doth think too much of yourself, I think you'd have to pay people to make you quit 40K/posting on dakka. The ignore button makes you poof like you never existed and its completely free!

lols I am already using it to ignore my post so i can skip directly to everyone's hateful messages like yours!

What an utter waste of everyone's time.

If you really wish to troll people like this I suggest you start a blog so something.