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Post by: reds8n
relevant link :
https://warhammerworld.games-workshop.com/events-hall/special-events/new-years-open-day/
New Year’s Open Day – January 2nd 2017
It’s the start of a new year and time to look back at all that has been, and wonder about what is to come. Whether you are a fan of Warhammer Age of Sigmar, Warhammer 40,000, Blood Bowl or The Hobbit we will have something for you to enjoy at Warhammer World on January 2nd!
https://www.facebook.com/GWWarhammerWorld/photos/a.218213154864839.65352.212614545424700/1396876290331847/?type=3&theater
Starting from today, each day until December 27th, we'll be revealing or teasing you about an exclusive or First Access item which will be available for the first time at the New Year's Open Day!
This Legio Custodes Magisterium t-shirt will be available at Warhammer World and selected events, but you can get it first on January 2nd!
Find out more about the New Year's Open Day: https://warhammerworld.games-workshop.com/events-hall/special-events/new-years-open-day/
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Post by: overtyrant
I think I'll go just to get that t-shirt!!
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Post by: Baron Klatz
Dang I'd love to have that! 
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Post by: Chikout
I'm super curious about that 'wonder about what's to come' part. Are we finally going to get real previews from GW proper?
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Post by: reds8n
Each day until December 27th, we'll be revealing or teasing you about an exclusive or First Access item which will be available for the first time at the New Year's Open Day!
This Legio Custodes Magisterium Mug will be available at Warhammer World and selected events, but you can get it first on January 2nd!
Find out more about the New Year's Open Day: https://warhammerworld.games-workshop.com/events-hall/special-events/new-years-open-day/
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Post by: EnTyme
The best part of waking up is heresy in your cup.
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Post by: TwilightSparkles
Chikout wrote:I'm super curious about that 'wonder about what's to come' part. Are we finally going to get real previews from GW proper?
Depends how literally they take the meaning - the last two open day events had preview stuff but not anything that hadn't been already spoiled or shown in picture form on the Internet, I'm certain that the main preview item is going to be the rumoured rerelease of the original marine plastic set as they've been saying it was first released 30 years ago, and the set was from 1987. Forgeworld I'm guessing will have Leman Russ wolves, maybe the second Custodes skimmer ?
Either way, £5 is cheap entry to the exhibit hall regardless of the other stuff so I'm going, last year's new year event was pretty relaxed by comparison to other open days so hopefully this is a regular fixture.
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Post by: casvalremdeikun
I bet we will see Duncan painting in one of those shirts soon after the Open Day.
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Post by: Gomezaddams
Out of curiosity, how many open days have they had in the last six months?
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Post by: reds8n
https://www.facebook.com/GWWarhammerWorld/photos/a.218213154864839.65352.212614545424700/1400888349930641/?type=3&theater
Each day until December 27th, we'll be revealing or teasing you about an exclusive or First Access item which will be available for the first time at the New Year's Open Day!
Here's some First Access news! This Mechanicum Taghmata Transfer Sheet will be available for the first time at Warhammer World on January 2nd!
Find out more about the New Year's Open Day: https://warhammerworld.games-workshop.com/events-hall/special-events/new-years-open-day/
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Post by: TwilightSparkles
 Gomezaddams wrote:Out of curiosity, how many open days have they had in the last six months?
Dunno about six months but this year they have had :
New Years
Forgeworld
Age of sigmar
40k
Age of sigmar was the worst , very very little to show and a lot of people had left after getting the new sigmarine guy. Though New Year's Day was free last year but you had to claim a ticket. I'm cool with paying a fiver as it sounds like they are doing a bit more this time.
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Post by: Looky Likey
There was also the Black Library event and Gamesday. I didn't go to either of the AoS or 40k days as I rightly guessed they wouldn't have a lot new, but I've been to all the others.
I'm lucky in that I live quite close to Warhammer World and have nearby friends who want to go. We normally turn it into a full day out and go somewhere nice for lunch as Bugmans is always too full by the time we finish looking around.
I'll be going to the new year open day, I have high hopes that HH book 7 and the new Knight will be out on the day...
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Post by: reds8n
..well.. least it's not a new hat for the doll err.. miniatures.
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Post by: MarkNorfolk
I'm hoping for somekind of preview for Adeptus Titanicus - they must have something to show by now...
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Post by: Huginn
Loads of mugs. For the loads of mugs who go.
Sorry, couldn't resist.
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Post by: CragHack
 This miniature of Alfrid, showing him in his "disguise" complete with stolen gold, will be available at Warhammer World and selected events, but you can get it first on January 2nd! I actually thought it was the legendary panicking man from the Giant kit. And Alfrid, for those too lazy to go ant google, is some kind or minor character in Hobbit.
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
Wow. They took literally the worst part of the Hobbit films - the Jar Jar of the trilogy, if you will - and turned him into a miniature.
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Post by: Joyboozer
It's face is still better sculpted than a lot of the limited edition marines, I wonder why that is?
And not so limited marines.
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Post by: ImAGeek
I think a scarab or something instead of a skull would've been more fitting.
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Post by: reds8n
.. for those overseas we do have clothing stores in the UK BTW.
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Post by: reds8n
https://www.facebook.com/GWWarhammerWorld/photos/a.218213154864839.65352.212614545424700/1403701506315992/?type=3&theater
Each day until December 27th, we'll be revealing or teasing you about an exclusive or First Access item which will be available for the first time at the New Year's Open Day!
Grak and Crumbleberry are a box set of miniatures for Blood Bowl, coming to Warhammer World and selected events, but you can get them first on January 2nd!
Find out more about the New Year's Open Day: https://warhammerworld.games-workshop.com/events-hall/special-events/new-years-open-day/
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Post by: Vorian
Erm, they are awesome. Why do I know no one near Nottingham? :(
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Post by: Theophony
Really hope that's not the new Morg N'Thorg 
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Post by: Vorian
"Grak and Crumbleberry"
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Post by: Melcavuk
They do look good and may well have to be the first blood bowl minis I pick up
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Post by: Joyboozer
Can I buy that shirt online in a convenient manner or do I have to jump through hoops after travelling to the other side of the world?
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
Joyboozer wrote:Can I buy that shirt online in a convenient manner or do I have to jump through hoops after travelling to the other side of the world?
It's Warhammer World, silly!
I'll give you three guesses. You won't need them all.
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Post by: MrFlutterPie
Hello GW I have money and I would like to give it to you.
NO!
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Post by: em_en_oh_pee
BETTER SEE SOME HOUSE VYRONII DECALS POP UP AT THIS EVENT.
And anyone going better ship me a few sets. 
Plus, damn I want Grak and Crumbleberry! Just got into BB and really want more miniatures!
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Post by: reds8n
https://warhammerworld.games-workshop.com/2016/12/27/from-the-archives-warhammer-40000-rogue-trader/
Get your hands on an exclusive piece of Warhammer 40,000 history – Warhammer 40,000 Rogue Trader is coming back from the archives for 2017!
Throughout 2017 Games Workshop will be celebrating 30 years of Warhammer 40,000, and we’re starting the party at Warhammer World’s New Year’s Open Day. The book that began Warhammer 40,000 as a table top strategy battle game will be available, in a faithful reproduction, to add to your archives – It’s truly an artifact to be proud of.
How faithful is this reproduction? It’s been created from a scan of an original edition, taken from Games Workshop’s own Archives!
Alongside the Warhammer 40,000 Rogue Trader book a mug is also available, with the cover art wrapped around it, Crimson Fists blazing away in the now famous last stand formation.
The first time you’ll be able to get your book and mug will be January 2nd, and you’ll only be able to get them in person, at Warhammer World, and at selected events around the world through 2017.
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Post by: Tannhauser42
Rogue Trader reprint?!
Available only at Warhammer World and "selected events"?
Me: GW, I want to give you my money.
GW: No!
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Post by: Vorian
Limiting RT is beyond stupid
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Post by: Bottle
Omg amazing. I have been thinking of rebinding my 2nd Edition books and Necromunda books into fancy hardbacks. If they did this for 2nd Edition I would definitely get it!
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Post by: casvalremdeikun
 Tannhauser42 wrote:Rogue Trader reprint?!
Available only at Warhammer World and "selected events"?
Me: GW, I want to give you my money.
GW: No!
This is me with the Space Marine Command Tanks. WHY IS MY AMERICAN MONEY NOT GOOD ENOUGH FOR YOU, GW?!
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Post by: Chikout
Surely one of the select events will be adepticon.
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Post by: -DE-
P-Bandai, motherfethers, P-Bandai!
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Post by: reds8n
One suspects that this -- allbeit in limited quantities -- will be at every show FW go to this year.
30th birthday and all that.
It will lack the pull-out sections -- they'll be included just not in the tear out format of yore ( and will be blue still) and, owing to a quirk of UK law m will have original typos et al still too.
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Post by: Charax
oh I really hope this is available at Salute
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Post by: tneva82
Bummer. Uk tad too far for a book. Sigh. Rulewise likely best release from gw in 2017
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Post by: BrookM
I'm glad a friend of mine is going to the UK early next year, excellent timing.
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Post by: kronk
What this mean?
Also, I want that RT Mug
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Post by: Yodhrin
 reds8n wrote:
One suspects that this -- allbeit in limited quantities -- will be at every show FW go to this year.
30th birthday and all that.
It will lack the pull-out sections -- they'll be included just not in the tear out format of yore ( and will be blue still) and, owing to a quirk of UK law m will have original typos et al still too.
Oh cool, so it's only one normally expensive travel, acommodation, and event ticket tax, rather than a ruiniously expensive one.
I'm starting to get heartily sick of GW's "you must be at least this wealthy to buy our product" garbage, if they really hate the idea of normal folk buying their stuff just increase the prices of the products themselves and be done with it.
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Post by: kronk
I will get my mug, hopefully, at AdeptiCon this year.
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Post by: JohnnyHell
Will this invalidate current codexes??? :-D
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Post by: GoatboyBeta
Interesting, think I've still got an original copy somewhere in the attic. Doubt its in good nick though. Might have to add this to the list of stuff to pick up from WH world when FW get round to releasing Inferno.
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Post by: Nostromodamus
They could sell the gak out of this if they put it up on their webstore.
But nooooo...........
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Post by: Howard A Treesong
I'd like a copy to replace mine which is falling apart, but I don't think I go to any events FW attend.
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Post by: Nevelon
 Howard A Treesong wrote:I'd like a copy to replace mine which is falling apart, but I don't think I go to any events FW attend.
When I read the “Faithful reproduction” part my first thought was “Including the crappy binding?”
Part of me would love to have a copy that I didn’t need to worry about keeping all the pages inside the cover and in order. But I can’t justify the cost/hoops I’d have to jump though to get one.
I’d love a mug on the other hand.
I’ll toss my vote on the “Why doesn’t GW want my money?” pile. I’m a stingy miser when it comes to spending, but I keep seeing these limited releases I’d plunk down cash for. But they need to be available at my FLGS, or even online. There isn’t even an official GW store within 100 miles of me.
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Post by: AllSeeingSkink
Joyboozer wrote:It's face is still better sculpted than a lot of the limited edition marines, I wonder why that is?
And not so limited marines.
When it comes to faces, most of it is the painting rather than the sculpting. I found with a lot of the older LotR models they looked terrible in pictures of painted models but in bare metal they actually look really good.
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Post by: Elbows
I would be excited if it was a re-mastered, properly reprinted copy available for sale. The "it's a scan of the original!" is not confidence inspiring. That sounds awfully lazy. That being said, I'd have considered buying one if it was a regularly available item. For $200+ on eBay in a month or two? No thanks. I am completely fine with GW limiting X, Y and Z to wherever they want to sell them. I think it's completely fair - but completely stupid at the same time. If the RT re-print is any good they could sell a lot of them. As indicated, they will probably sell a few of them. I don't pretend the understand the logic.
Ideally I'd have liked to see them release stuff like this as a print-on-demand style format. Bump the price, but let the market determine how many they buy.
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Post by: Zwan1One
The need to give people a reason to visit warhammer world I guess? But if I get the opportunity maybe I'll head up or search them out at an event...
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Post by: Vorian
The limited edition models, It's annoying, but understandable.
Tying a RT reprint to WHW is just dumb.
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Post by: Dryaktylus
 Nevelon wrote:
When I read the “Faithful reproduction” part my first thought was “Including the crappy binding?”
THAT was my first thought too.
Mmh, wasn't something like this in one of the limited rulebook editions (5th?)?
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Post by: Stormonu
Rogue Trader ruleset is the one book I had that didn't survive my college years - only it and the BattleTech Compedium had a binding that fell apart on me. I'd love a reprint, but that's a bit too far to go just to get a copy. And of course the scalpers will make it impossible to buy a copy off E-bay at a reasonable price.
I do wish they would set up a POD version, like on drivethruRPG that would be available, but GW would never 'devalue' their product like that...
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Post by: Starfarer
I'm rarely super critical of GW, but the limited edition items are one they really need to work on.
If they want to do limited runs like the codexes through the webstore, that's fine. At least everyone has a fair shot at ordering them. But event only items for stuff like this is stupid considering they are just adding to the secondhand market for their products.
Nostalgia items like the RT hardback reprint are going to sell like crazy. Why limit your profit on this?
Anyway, if anyone is going to Adepticon and wants to do me a huge solid of grabbing an extra copy, please let me know. I'm happy to pay in advance via Paypal and cover shipping obviously, and a little extra for the troubles.
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Post by: Davor
Stormonu wrote: Rogue Trader ruleset is the one book I had that didn't survive my college years - only it and the BattleTech Compedium had a binding that fell apart on me. I'd love a reprint, but that's a bit too far to go just to get a copy. And of course the scalpers will make it impossible to buy a copy off E-bay at a reasonable price.
I do wish they would set up a POD version, like on drivethruRPG that would be available, but GW would never 'devalue' their product like that...
If a reprint would sell lot's of money, I am curious how much my original would go for. Not perfect condition but since it was only read as a book since I didn't find any players to play with at the time I am curious how much it would go for. Not going to sell it, but just curious how much it would go for.
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Post by: kronk
I got mine on eBay for 15$. So not a whole lot.
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Post by: oni
Limited... Well that's is rather unfortunate.
I would have liked to pick up a reprint of RT, but I guess I"ll deposit that money into my savings account. Thank you GW for helping me make better financial choices.
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Post by: Veteran Sergeant
That's kinda cool. I have two copies of the original. One hardback one softcover.
But, as was said, you can actually get them on EBay for a reasonable price if you don't have the desire or ability to ravel all the way to an event to get a reprint. They pop up from time to time.
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Post by: Bi'ios
Davor wrote:Stormonu wrote: Rogue Trader ruleset is the one book I had that didn't survive my college years - only it and the BattleTech Compedium had a binding that fell apart on me. I'd love a reprint, but that's a bit too far to go just to get a copy. And of course the scalpers will make it impossible to buy a copy off E-bay at a reasonable price.
I do wish they would set up a POD version, like on drivethruRPG that would be available, but GW would never 'devalue' their product like that...
If a reprint would sell lot's of money, I am curious how much my original would go for. Not perfect condition but since it was only read as a book since I didn't find any players to play with at the time I am curious how much it would go for. Not going to sell it, but just curious how much it would go for.
I got a near mint copy off eBay a few months ago that I paid $70 for. They go for like $20-100, depending on condition.
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Post by: notprop
This is about the long and short of it.
First run copies are easy enough to get, second run soft backs more so.
Flash the words 'Limited' on a release and you'd think they were talking about air the way some flail about, and for something the same people have merrily been ignoring for the last 20 odd years. Chill fellers, one look at the rules for following fire, vehicle damage points (and cost!) or vehicle turning radius, and you'll wonder what the fuss was about.
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Post by: zedmeister
 notprop wrote:
This is about the long and short of it.
First run copies are easy enough to get, second run soft backs more so.
Flash the words 'Limited' on a release and you'd think they were talking about air the way some flail about, and for something the same people have merrily been ignoring for the last 20 odd years. Chill fellers, one look at the rules for following fire, vehicle damage points (and cost!) or vehicle turning radius, and you'll wonder what the fuss was about.
Ahh, but the exploits of Abdul Goldberg make up for that. Not to mention the subplots about how people start aquiring MACS or a visit from Dr Gostellos Amazing Intergalactic Pyschic Circus!
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Post by: Howard A Treesong
A reprint of the Book of the Astronomican would be welcome...
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Post by: Fenrir Kitsune
 Bi'ios wrote:Davor wrote:Stormonu wrote: Rogue Trader ruleset is the one book I had that didn't survive my college years - only it and the BattleTech Compedium had a binding that fell apart on me. I'd love a reprint, but that's a bit too far to go just to get a copy. And of course the scalpers will make it impossible to buy a copy off E-bay at a reasonable price.
I do wish they would set up a POD version, like on drivethruRPG that would be available, but GW would never 'devalue' their product like that...
If a reprint would sell lot's of money, I am curious how much my original would go for. Not perfect condition but since it was only read as a book since I didn't find any players to play with at the time I am curious how much it would go for. Not going to sell it, but just curious how much it would go for.
I got a near mint copy off eBay a few months ago that I paid $70 for. They go for like $20-100, depending on condition.
I paid £7.50 for a mint condition copy.
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Post by: notprop
Now that, I would get in a froth about!
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Post by: AndrewGPaul
Not quite what I was expecting for 8th edition, but it looks like fun. 
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Post by: Bi'ios
 Fenrir Kitsune wrote: Bi'ios wrote:Davor wrote:Stormonu wrote: Rogue Trader ruleset is the one book I had that didn't survive my college years - only it and the BattleTech Compedium had a binding that fell apart on me. I'd love a reprint, but that's a bit too far to go just to get a copy. And of course the scalpers will make it impossible to buy a copy off E-bay at a reasonable price.
I do wish they would set up a POD version, like on drivethruRPG that would be available, but GW would never 'devalue' their product like that...
If a reprint would sell lot's of money, I am curious how much my original would go for. Not perfect condition but since it was only read as a book since I didn't find any players to play with at the time I am curious how much it would go for. Not going to sell it, but just curious how much it would go for.
I got a near mint copy off eBay a few months ago that I paid $70 for. They go for like $20-100, depending on condition.
I paid £7.50 for a mint condition copy.
I was not the lucky in price, although I am happy with the purchase.
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Post by: SagesStone
How faithful is this reproduction? It’s been created from a scan of an original edition, taken from Games Workshop’s own Archives!
Yeh, not from anywhere that may have an abundance of such scans. 
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Post by: BobtheInquisitor
Davor wrote:Stormonu wrote: Rogue Trader ruleset is the one book I had that didn't survive my college years - only it and the BattleTech Compedium had a binding that fell apart on me. I'd love a reprint, but that's a bit too far to go just to get a copy. And of course the scalpers will make it impossible to buy a copy off E-bay at a reasonable price.
I do wish they would set up a POD version, like on drivethruRPG that would be available, but GW would never 'devalue' their product like that...
If a reprint would sell lot's of money, I am curious how much my original would go for. Not perfect condition but since it was only read as a book since I didn't find any players to play with at the time I am curious how much it would go for. Not going to sell it, but just curious how much it would go for.
I think I got my hardcover RT book for $20. Maybe $25. But that was close to ten years ago. Automatically Appended Next Post: Now if they'd reprint The Loathesome Ratmen and All Their Vile Kin, that would be worth getting excited about.
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Post by: Joyboozer
I have the ratmen book and rogue trader, I want the Jes Goodwin book!
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Post by: MarkNorfolk
notprop wrote:
This is about the long and short of it.
First run copies are easy enough to get, second run soft backs more so.
Flash the words 'Limited' on a release and you'd think they were talking about air the way some flail about, and for something the same people have merrily been ignoring for the last 20 odd years. Chill fellers, one look at the rules for following fire, vehicle damage points (and cost!) or vehicle turning radius, and you'll wonder what the fuss was about.
.....but I love Turn Rate Ratio!!
Cheers
Mark
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Post by: reds8n
...well...
..it's not impossible one hears.
The New Year Open Day is nearly here! We're busy getting everything ready here at Warhammer World, but thought you'd all like to see a few more cool things that will be available for the first time on Monday 2nd January, exclusively at the Open Day.
Without further ado, feast your eyes!
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Post by: BrookM
That Custodes Contemptor.. hnnnnng..!
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Post by: VeteranNoob
ooo, Iron Hills dwarf command. Gotta poke a local now.These poor/lucky-awesomely-lucky guys
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Post by: Vorian
Ooh, Zug looks like Zug and not the weird portrait version
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Post by: Cephalobeard
God, I hope this custodes stuff is going to be available for 40k. These models are incredible.
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Post by: Kanluwen
 Cephalobeard wrote:God, I hope this custodes stuff is going to be available for 40k. These models are incredible.
I'm more excited for The Mighty Zug...hopefully he gets a splash release at retail shops.
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Post by: BrookM
They're saying €100 or UK equivalent for the Rogue Trader reprint.. if true, feth that noise!
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Post by: TwilightSparkles
£100 ? Cheaper to buy an original ?
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Post by: BrookM
I'm going to find out soon enough I suppose, my friends are on their way to WHW now I think.
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Post by: notprop
Really?
Blimey, nothing less than leather bound gold leaf lettering and some free stuff would be worth that, but for a printed scan!
I'll stick with the tatty paint covered copy with pages falling out thanks GW.
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Post by: TwilightSparkles
It's £35, on the event flyer
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Post by: BrookM
Yay, the world did not end!
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Post by: Atia
Hey 
As usual, my bunnies are there and we will have a coverage over the day on the blog:
https://battlebunnies.blogspot.co.at/
^.^
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Post by: BrookM
I wonder if those Knight heads are for the Cerastus frames or the plasticus ones..?
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Post by: reds8n
awesome , many thanks 
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Post by: Warhams-77
Thanks, Atia
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Post by: GoatboyBeta
Cool, better make sure my F5 key is working Nice to see the non Mechanicus Knight heads are on there way and £35 doesn't seem to bad for the RT reprint. A few retro 1sted games might be good for a laugh.
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Post by: zedmeister
Adeptus Tiranicus artwork... Oooooooooo
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Post by: BrookM
Oh man, the contemptor with sword and shield was neat, but the one with the oversized Guardian spear with built-in laser cannon..
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Post by: angelofvengeance
 BrookM wrote:Oh man, the contemptor with sword and shield was neat, but the one with the oversized Guardian spear with built-in laser cannon..
Gak just got real lol.
I'm loving this though:
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Post by: GoatboyBeta
https://battlebunnies.blogspot.co.uk/2017/01/adeptus-titanicus-news.html
If a delayed Titanicus means more chance of plastic Titans I am totally ok with that Good to hear that Blood bowl has exceeded expectations.
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Post by: BrookM
Got a picture from my friends who are attending today, they have secured me a copy of Rogue Trader!
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Post by: em_en_oh_pee
Any news on the Vyronii decal sheet?!??! And any release date info on those new Knight heads?
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Post by: TwilightSparkles
Odd thing is that when I was at the specialist games stand the guy was talking to someone about something being out probably by end of the year AFTER Titanicus , I don't know what as wasn't paying much attention until he mentioned Titanicus..... Other than the art table there was nothing for Titanicus on show , very little advance releases in show this time - Fall of cadiacwas was locked up , triumvirate on display, nothing for Aos other than Orc v empire diorama work in progress with 8th edition flavour.
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Post by: VeteranNoob
le drroooooollll
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Post by: zedmeister
Return of the plastic Warlord! Please let it be so.
The massive succes of Blood Bowl has, it appears, taken GW completely by surprise...
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Post by: BrookM
Plastic titans is certainly the way to go imho, so while the delay is a sad thing, it does mean more time for them to get everything done good and proper!
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Post by: privateer4hire
Davor wrote:Stormonu wrote: Rogue Trader ruleset is the one book I had that didn't survive my college years - only it and the BattleTech Compedium had a binding that fell apart on me. I'd love a reprint, but that's a bit too far to go just to get a copy. And of course the scalpers will make it impossible to buy a copy off E-bay at a reasonable price.
I do wish they would set up a POD version, like on drivethruRPG that would be available, but GW would never 'devalue' their product like that...
If a reprint would sell lot's of money, I am curious how much my original would go for. Not perfect condition but since it was only read as a book since I didn't find any players to play with at the time I am curious how much it would go for. Not going to sell it, but just curious how much it would go for.
They're listed on ebay anywhere from $60 to $250 or thereabouts.
Noble Knight resellers has a couple of copies for $60.
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Post by: unmercifulconker
That Dread has a Las cannon......That Dread has a  Las CANNON built into the spear.
Heretics cannot handle this level of badassery.
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Post by: Yodhrin
 zedmeister wrote:
Return of the plastic Warlord! Please let it be so.
The massive succes of Blood Bowl has, it appears, taken GW completely by surprise...
You mean all the whiners, whingers, whackaloons, grumps, grognards, and gits online who've been saying for years that GW were thickos for failing to support and then canning the SGs..were... right?!
I'm shocked, shocked I tells ya. Shocked like I stuck a fork in an electrical socket. Shocked like a Hydra agent trying to fight Thor.
Seriously though, I'm really glad BB has been such a great success, both for its fans and for what appears to be the positive reaction it's caused at GWHQ - waiting for AT might suck, but plastic models will make it much more likely that the game takes off and becomes a staple at clubs and stores, rather than an extortionate niche product that most of us simply can't particpate in, which is good for everybody as it means more chances to play and a better chance of ongoing support & expansion from GW.
Mostly though, I'm hoping GW take BBs success to mean there's a market for the SGs as they were, and so give us proper Old World-setting Mordheim eventually.
Also I really want that "laspike" armed Custodes Contemptor. I totally won't buy it though. Nope. No chance. Too much to paint already. Why am I so weak...
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Post by: Kijamon
 unmercifulconker wrote:That Dread has a Las cannon......That Dread has a Las CANNON built into the spear.
Heretics cannot handle this level of badassery.
Looks more like a graviton weapon to me.
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Post by: Warhams-77
Event coverage by Rictus - pics on his blog
https://recalcitrantdaze.blogspot.de/2017/01/new-years-open-day-2017.html
New Years Open Day 2017
Fresh back from Warhammer World from the New Year Open Day.
First News...the only info I can at the moment remember...this may be a bit shambolic as I'm just putting down stuff I can remember and hoping it makes sense.
Horus Heresy – Book Seven:
Only asked about availability, Tony Cottrel thinks it is on for the Heresy Weekender, the book is at the printers at all being well the boats packed with black books should arrive back in the UK in time for the first week in Feb and the Horus Heresy Weekender.
Specialist Games – had a chat with Andy Hoare, as always a friendly chap who seems happy to answer what was almost certainly the fiftieth time he had heard the same questions being put to him that day.
Adeptus Titanicus:
Release has been put back. Mix of reasons including GW releasing this may be a very popular choice (really? Who would have thought?). Gives them more time to work on things and allow a bigger initial release with more models etc.
So far the Warlord, Reaver and Questoris Knights have been 3D modelled for the new game. Warhound is currenty being worked on.
A game is expected to be around five titans of any class. You pick a type of Maniple, such as Scout, Assault or Battle and pick accordingly. This means you could have a game of five Warlords v five Warhounds. You then take the difference in the two sides and the weaker side then gets to spend those points on other things, I can’t remember the name now of them – Stratagems? Something like that.
About nine titans a side is about the limit you would reasonably want, unless you have the time spare.
The emphasis of the game is controlling you titans and making decisions such as power levels, ramping up your generator makes you faster, more powerful weapons and shields but has consequences. Your titan has a personality and may not like what you try and do with it. Basically as you get in the novels the Princeps has to keep control over something which may not want to relinquish control. So if you have a bloodthirsty, hunter type titan trying to back away from a fight might not be the easiest thing to do.
Terrain has been done as have Realm of Battle boards which the buildings can fit onto. These are at the factory already so should be ready to go when the game is released.
There is no great desire to redo Epic. While we may get more games at the same scale – such as a massed tank version there is no desire to see a combined titan/tank/infantry battle. Basically they don’t just want 40k at a smaller scale.
There is a chance, though it may be small, we see some of the models at the Heresy Weekender in a month’s time.
Blood Bowl
Season Two book is likely April-ish.
Plastic Ogre player will be out soon. There will also be a plastic Troll. They decided to do these in plastic as they can be taken in so many team.
Elf Union team is being worked on, Nurgle will follow after these hopefully later this year (October?). Also Goblin team in plastic, I think from memory these will come before the Elves. Goblins were a must for plastic as they can be taken on their own as well as being taken as members of other teams.
Expect at least one Star Player to follow with each team, some may get two. The Skaven star player (two heads, four arm guy) will be here soon. Season Two will have a lot of Star Players in there, some known and some who are new.
Neoprene pitches are a go. The human and Orc pitches have been done as the first ones have arrived at GW to look at and test out. Forgot to ask when these are likely to be out.
[...]
Age of Sigmar Khorne Dragon - Lovely looking beastie. Expect to see it released in about three months.
Blood Bowl - Plastic Dwarf team with resin Death Roller, plus a couple of star players. Unfortunately pictures of some of the other models just didn't turn out well.
[...]
That'll do for now.
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Post by: Looky Likey
Kijamon wrote: unmercifulconker wrote:That Dread has a Las cannon......That Dread has a Las CANNON built into the spear.
Heretics cannot handle this level of badassery.
Looks more like a graviton weapon to me.
I asked and it was going to be like a lascannon. And there will be a larger dread coming at some point. If anybody is interested they also said that the Custodies transport was going to seat 10 Custodies.
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Post by: Binabik15
I want Epic for the tiny dudes, but my brother will go bonkers for plastic Titans, I bet. I hope GW/FW really does turn this into a real starter set and stuff like Necromunda, Gorkamorka and Mordheim with DW:OK/Silver Tower-level of model quality becomes a reality.
And gimme dat Nuuuuuurgle team.
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Post by: GoatboyBeta
It would undeniably be great if the Titans were plastic. But lets not get too hyped yet. Its just a chance. GW/FW may give it some more thought and still decide to go with full resin.
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Post by: Yodhrin
That Epic comment seems, odd. Wasn't the whole point of going 8mm supposedly that it made the infantry look better? And surely the entire point of a small-scale combined arms game is that it lets you fight battles that simply aren't practical at 40K scale - most normal gamers do not actually get to play these hilariously huge Apocalypse games with thousands of infantry and multiple titans/superheavies on each side outside of very, very occasional multiplayer events, so to say that Epic is nothing more than 40K in a smaller scale is pretty disingenuous.
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Post by: overtyrant
Was it mentioned that Titanicus would be Imperial only or will we be able to fight against Xenos and Traitors as well?
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Post by: Warhams-77
Like the original game it is set in the Horus Heresy and features Imperial vs Traitor titans battles
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Post by: insaniak
Warhams-77 wrote:
There is no great desire to redo Epic. While we may get more games at the same scale – such as a massed tank version there is no desire to see a combined titan/tank/infantry battle. Basically they don’t just want 40k at a smaller scale.
The irony, it burns...
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Post by: deleted20250424
 insaniak wrote:Warhams-77 wrote:
There is no great desire to redo Epic. While we may get more games at the same scale – such as a massed tank version there is no desire to see a combined titan/tank/infantry battle. Basically they don’t just want 40k at a smaller scale.
The irony, it burns...
I just don't get this angle.
I would back a dumptruck full of money up to their door if I could play 40k in 6mm or 10mm again.
I want grand battles with hundreds of Marines/Eldar/Orks/etc, with tanks, flyers, dreads, Titans, Knight.... all the things!
It also easier to introduce kids into this scale, IMHO, because it's more like a boardgame that can lead to smaller squad based action, like 40k/Kill Team.
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Post by: insaniak
It's particularly confusing given that Epic was regarded by many gamers as one of GW's best systems, and even though many similar units exist in both games, they play completely differently.
I don't have a horse in this race, as Epic never really grabbed me (Titans are great, but the largely detail-less infantry are a turnoff in most small-scale games, for me)... but the suggestion that it would just duplicate 40K seems to betray a rather astonishing lack of knowledge of their own game systems.
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Post by: deleted20250424
The fact they don't have a presence in the 6mm/10mm/15mm range continues to confuse me.
Obviously there's a market as several other companies are in there, and it's growing with new games fairly regularly.
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Post by: His Master's Voice
That there is no GREAT desire, doesn't mean there will never be another Epic. It's just that it's not coming any time soon.
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Post by: tneva82
Warhams-77 wrote:There is no great desire to redo Epic. While we may get more games at the same scale – such as a massed tank version there is no desire to see a combined titan/tank/infantry battle. Basically they don’t just want 40k at a smaller scale.
Sigh. There went my interest in SG's.
And they are sooooo flawed in that idea. Epic isn't just 40k in smaller scale. 40k is platoon/company scale game. Epic allows bigger battles than that. You don't get big epic battles just by upping model count in 40k. Apart from sheer practicalities(who has money and space? 6'x4' is already too small for many 2000 pts armies let alone bigger than that! Any titan makes any board I have seen to be too small. Including 12'x4'!) the rules dont' convey BIG battles.
2 steps forward, 1 backward.
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Post by: Vorian
It doesn't seem a big deal to me. They might have no great desire at the moment but they are obviously feeling their way.
So we get a fleshed out titan game, then a mass tank battle game; then an air superiority game... at that point in the distant future they'll realise the bulk of the models for an 8mm Epic are there and there's an appetite for it. They will obviously keep getting questioned about it.
The above is the most logical way of drip feeding us 8mm stuff in a cost effective way that is still playable upon release.
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Post by: Warhams-77
More photos of the 40k 30th anniversary exhibition
https://recalcitrantdaze.blogspot.de/2017/01/new-years-open-day-2017-boards-and-40k.html
Have these ever been in a 40k publication? I thought they were made for other systems
The RT re-print is reported to be of very good quality ( imo it should for 35 GBP)
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Post by: notprop
The guy in the front of the second last picture is Chainsaw Warrior, not a 40k mini. The Robots I have never seen before.
Looks like a nice RT display, might be worth a tripped to see the new WHW set up.
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Post by: Joyboozer
Is that weathering or dust on those vehicles?
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Post by: DarkStarSabre
Dust. Those things will have been sat in storage for close to 3 decades at this point.
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Post by: tneva82
 DarkStarSabre wrote:
Dust. Those things will have been sat in storage for close to 3 decades at this point.
Is it hard to get rid of if they didn't bother to take it? Or intentionally left?
Ah if only one could still order those stuff.
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Post by: Looky Likey
Tony Cotterell (you can see his head in a couple of the pictures) brought a lot of bits from his own personal collection. When he opened some of the boxes he really wasn't sure what he was going to find in them. I suspect they have been sat in a dark cupboard for a long time.
I can confirm that the Rogue Trader print is really good quality. Having had to share one with friends when I was younger I snapped up this new reprint. I'm hoping they do 2nd and 3rd editions at some point as mine are fairly tatty now.
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Post by: NoggintheNog
I still have that orginal Forgeworld Baneblade myself. I have a round topped predator too, I think its a blood angels version with different weapons though.
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Post by: tneva82
 Looky Likey wrote: I'm hoping they do 2nd and 3rd editions at some point as mine are fairly tatty now.
30 year aniversity of 2nd ed Also codexes please! Would love to get good quality replacements for couple that are falling and I still miss couple. Not that they are too expensive on ebay but hey if one could get brand new hopefully high quality...What's not to like? (well apart from price)
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Post by: alphaecho
NoggintheNog wrote:I still have that orginal Forgeworld Baneblade myself. I have a round topped predator too, I think its a blood angels version with different weapons though.
I believe that Baneblade in he photo is the scratch build one that was featured in WD.
I still have the pages with the templates on.
It has always been a "One day I'll..." project for me. Then I bought the plastic one.
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Post by: Nostromodamus
2nd Ed. book with a pack of Sustained Fire dice would be quite popular I think Maybe even a template set with the funky Thudd Gun blast marker that had to be split-pinned together, or the card terrain that came in the box and was actually enough to cover a decent amount of space...
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Post by: tneva82
I think set of templates would be more popular. Those are harder to custom make while sustained fire is easier to simulate. 1-2=1, 3-4=2, 5=3, 6=jam(albeit with side effect of 6 being bad result...)
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Post by: Nostromodamus
tneva82 wrote:
I think set of templates would be more popular. Those are harder to custom make while sustained fire is easier to simulate. 1-2=1, 3-4=2, 5=3, 6=jam(albeit with side effect of 6 being bad result...)
Not quite the same feeling as seeing three of those jam symbols when firing your assault cannon though 
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Post by: Nevelon
 Nostromodamus wrote:tneva82 wrote:
I think set of templates would be more popular. Those are harder to custom make while sustained fire is easier to simulate. 1-2=1, 3-4=2, 5=3, 6=jam(albeit with side effect of 6 being bad result...)
Not quite the same feeling as seeing three of those jam symbols when firing your assault cannon though
Just use a die with a evil symbol on the 6
Don’t forget to keep your sustained fire dice out of normal circulation. Nothing quite like using them in a RPG session. Friend of mine made it through most of the night wondering why he was sucking so bad.
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Post by: Nostromodamus
Didn't realise there was so much hate for the idea of re-releasing Sustained Fire dice in the hypothetical scenario of a 2nd Ed. reprint.
Maybe I was the only one that liked them and everyone else would rather convert D6 results. Maybe it's a nostalgia thing...
Hopefully Adeptus Titanicus won't re-use the hit location dice from Titan Legions, people will lose their minds.
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Post by: casvalremdeikun
What is that greenish Rhino pattern tank with the large barrel coming out off-center from the hull?
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Post by: Theophony
 casvalremdeikun wrote:What is that greenish Rhino pattern tank with the large barrel coming out off-center from the hull?
Scratch build version of a vindicator.
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Post by: tneva82
Nostromodamus wrote:Didn't realise there was so much hate for the idea of re-releasing Sustained Fire dice in the hypothetical scenario of a 2nd Ed. reprint.
Maybe I was the only one that liked them and everyone else would rather convert D6 results. Maybe it's a nostalgia thing...
Hopefully Adeptus Titanicus won't re-use the hit location dice from Titan Legions, people will lose their minds.
No hate but on priority they would be on my bottom part. Dice you can simulate with current stuff. Templates less so so from purely practical sense templates are the ones I would prefer to buy.
This comes from someone who still plays 2nd ed. If I lose my templates it's going to be harder to replace those than sustained fire dice.
As long as templates ALSO come sustained fire is all fine and dandy. It's the idea of book coming with dice but no templates that's "this is not good". If GW would release the marker set(for reasonable price) I would buy couple just in case!
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Post by: em_en_oh_pee
casvalremdeikun wrote:What is that greenish Rhino pattern tank with the large barrel coming out off-center from the hull?
Vindicator.
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Post by: casvalremdeikun
That's what I figured, but I wasn't sure. Looks pretty awesome.
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Post by: Loopstah
It's a Sabre tank destroyer.
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Post by: casvalremdeikun
Ah, that makes a bit more sense. Throwing that into google brings the exact tank in the photo up.
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Post by: Nevelon
Remember, RT was a time where “Hey, I built this cool thing, lets cob together some rules for it” was both normal and expected. It was a wild and free time.
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Post by: Looky Likey
tneva82 wrote: Looky Likey wrote: I'm hoping they do 2nd and 3rd editions at some point as mine are fairly tatty now.
30 year aniversity of 2nd ed Also codexes please! Would love to get good quality replacements for couple that are falling and I still miss couple. Not that they are too expensive on ebay but hey if one could get brand new hopefully high quality...What's not to like? (well apart from price)
I'd actually pay out for one of GW's ultra expensive limited editions they do with the modern codexes if they did 2nd or 3rd edition will all of the trimmings.
I was told that the new Custodies tanks were modeled on the old shampoo bottle tank from Rogue Trader. As the Javelin Attack Speeder (I think) was also modelled on the same early STC then the Javelin should become available to Custodies?
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Post by: Elbows
Yep, almost everything in that picture is 50% scratch build. First and second editions were far more hobby-based than later editions of the game. I've said it before, but at that time, GW was run by a bunch of gaming geeks (and was suitably bankrupt most of the time). It was a very, very different atmosphere to current big-time gaming company stuff.
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Post by: em_en_oh_pee
Huh. Didn't even know that was a thing. Now I kinda want Forge World to do one for 30k, because... BECAUSE.
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Post by: Stormonu
What's up with the land raider that has a rhino hull strapped to the front? It sure doesn't match my RT land raider!
Also, is it just me or do those robots look like they are modded battletech minis?
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Post by: zedmeister
em_en_oh_pee wrote: Huh. Didn't even know that was a thing. Now I kinda want Forge World to do one for 30k, because... BECAUSE.
It already is. If you have Book I: Betrayal, read the entry for the Cerberus - they refer to it as a Sabre by mistake! Though the laser destroyer vindicator could be called the sabre tank hunter Stormonu wrote:What's up with the land raider that has a rhino hull strapped to the front? It sure doesn't match my RT land raider!
Also, is it just me or do those robots look like they are modded battletech minis?
That's the original Spartan conversion!
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Post by: col. krazy kenny
Nice work on BB Star players,
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Post by: em_en_oh_pee
zedmeister wrote:em_en_oh_pee wrote: Huh. Didn't even know that was a thing. Now I kinda want Forge World to do one for 30k, because... BECAUSE.
It already is. If you have Book I: Betrayal, read the entry for the Cerberus - they refer to it as a Sabre by mistake! Though the laser destroyer vindicator could be called the sabre tank hunter Stormonu wrote:What's up with the land raider that has a rhino hull strapped to the front? It sure doesn't match my RT land raider!
Also, is it just me or do those robots look like they are modded battletech minis?
That's the original Spartan conversion!
Oh do they?! I am going to dig up Book 1 just to see that. That is too cool. And the Laser Vindi is very close. Wish they had called that the Sabre now that I know what that is! EDIT: Found this gem! Neat to see so many iterations and flavors over its long history. http://warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/Sabre_Tank_Hunter
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Post by: alexkon3
If those contemptors look this freaking amazing... i cant wait how their terminators will look. Hopefully like the one in the collected visions with the fire pikes
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Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik
You know, if I wasn't in the UK, I'd be hoping that some handsome, dashing 30-something had put a link to some kind of carey-sharey group in his signature, that I might get an assist in having the WW exclusives put within my reach....
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Post by: krazynadechukr
What's the cost of the book?
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Post by: Elbows
I think the book at the launch was 35 pounds. Assume maybe $59.95 or $69.95 USD when it shows up here for any events.
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Post by: Hans Chung-Otterson
I see that on their FB page GW has said that the RT reprint can be bought at conventions where there is an official GW stand. Is there any kind of list of GW's planned convention presence for 2017?
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Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik
Dunno.
But Warhammerfest is coming in May, and I'll be attending.
Hit the link in my sig, join the group, and we'll see what we can do
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Post by: Vorian
I can't for the life of me work out how to get signatures to show on my phone - would it be possible to post the link please?
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Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik
I'll PM you
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Post by: Hans Chung-Otterson
 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:Dunno.
But Warhammerfest is coming in May, and I'll be attending.
Hit the link in my sig, join the group, and we'll see what we can do
Thank you! You're a scholar and a gentleman.
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