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Post by: TapedTempest
As you all probably know, with the release of 8th edition, we're getting Primaris Marines and new Death Guard models. I'm curious to see how many people are or planning on making new armies around these new models, since it seems like most people like them. I'm heavily considering building forces around both of them, but I'm not really sure at the moment.
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Post by: Wayniac
I like them, but I am indecisive enough and just recently (like this past weekend) bought about $150 worth of Eldar (Start Collecting, box of Guardians and box of Dire Avengers) to start an army so I really should focus on something before I jump ship again
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Post by: Dakka Wolf
I'm just going to make characters out of Primaris Marines.
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Post by: Vaktathi
The Primaris models arent bad but the line is far from complete, and, more importantly, the background implementation behind them is monstrously stupid.
The Death Guard models are...technically very well sculpted for plastic, but really display all the hallmarks of plastic limitations as well, giving them a very "videogame" appearance, and while it may just be the paintjob they have been shown with thus far, have far too many strong lines and clear features to really feel right to me. Also the new naming conventions sound like something out of a bad harry potter fanfic.
So probably no in either case.
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Post by: SharkoutofWata
I've always had a strong Nurgle presence in my Red Corsairs but no real obviously Nurgle contingent. The new Death Guard look good enough for me to find some more bits to make a full Warband under a Nurgle Lord that serves the overall army of Red Corsairs. After all, The Tyrant of Badab doesn't need to bother himself with every little operation.
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Post by: Torga_DW
I voted i'm not sure. I like the look of the nu-marines, but it'll depend on pricing and the quality of the rules before i decide to commit.
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Post by: Blacksails
That'd be a texas sized nope for me there good buddy.
I'm pretty loyal to my Guard, and still have to build them back up to what they were. The other army I've always wanted to do would be Orks, so we'll see if they get some cool new kits.
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Post by: Ginsu33
I am considering the box set, and I have the intention to collect either 3rd or 5th Ultramarines Co. but I am not as keen as I thought I would be about the Death Guard, they look like a mess to me, so many features and none of them appear to be really trying to engage anything with their weapons.
Compared to the Marines who actually have the apperance of either being in a firefight or ready for one.
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Post by: Aetare
Love the look of the Death Guard models, but cant bring myself to drop $160 just to turn to Chaos for the first time in my 40k career. I guess its just a stupid matter of principal
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Post by: docdoom77
I'm not, but only because I have so many unfinished armies already. If I was in the market for a new army, I'd start with the boxed set.
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Post by: 3orangewhips
**I WILL OBEY THE GOD-DEVELOPERS**
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Post by: Desubot
Im probably going to pick up the adeptus restarties so i can restart my imperial fist army. including regular marines. i plan on rebuilding them truish scale. one unit at a time.
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Post by: GoatboyBeta
No option for possibly starting both DG and Primaris? 8th is a good excuse for a fresh start and both sides seem tempting.
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Post by: Crimson
Primaris marines for me. As much as I hate the fluff, I love the models more. I plan to start a new chapter of pure primaris marines.
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Post by: Don Savik
I currently already have nurgle demons, so getting death guard isn't necessarily a 'new' army. I dunno how that fits in with the poll.
Sadly nobody I know wants the new Big and Tall Marines. So I have no clue what to do with half the box.
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Post by: TapedTempest
@GoatboyBeta Option added.
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Post by: Future War Cultist
Looking forward to making a primaris marine army myself.
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Post by: Luciferian
I feel really bad about doing Primaris Marines instead of Death Guard, but that's the way I'm leaning.
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Post by: Bobthehero
Nope, no interest in Marines, no matter how hyped up or pustulent they are.
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Post by: master of ordinance
Moar Marines are not what I ordered.
Unless the "new models" inculdes updated Sister of Battle and/or Imperial Guard infantry then nope.
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Post by: Galas
Primaris Marines half of the starter is going to my Guardians of the Covenant army. Deathguard is gonna make my Half Chaos of Dark Vengeance into something more like a full usable Chaos army
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Post by: Future War Cultist
I might end up doing both Primaris and Death Guard to be honest.
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Post by: Cothonian
Sticking with my Guard, after all this time there are still so many ways to expand my forces (looking at Ogryns and Hellhounds next)
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Post by: lord_blackfang
I'll just add them to my existing Death Guard and White Scars.
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Post by: Bobthehero
Eh eh eh, good name
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Post by: MechaEmperor7000
Not gonna lie, Probably gonna start a new Primaris army even after everything I've said.
I even have some lore written up for them based off the Power Rangers.
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Post by: Desubot
Saw it in the news and rumor thread
keeping it.
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Post by: Souleater
Strongly considering getting back into 40k and Chaos with those Death Guard.
Would do them as Black Legion colour scheme: mainly black with Nurgle greens for the edging. Planning towards a more coherent looking force I could mix and match with other Chaos legions if they do groovy models for...eh...other Traitor Legions.
Have just thought
... could the Primaris marines be used as Legion of the Dammed? I do hope that LOTD get plastics and an actual full range. (once they have done plastic Sisters!)
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Post by: BrianDavion
definatly looking at doing a new Primaris army. not quite sure what I wanna do chapter wise, maybe finally do a homebrew.
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Post by: hobojebus
Nope because I've no idea if 8th is worth playing yet we've yet to see if its balanced.
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Post by: Asmodai
Yep - I've been looking for an excuse for a fresh start. I'm trading my Nurgle half for a friend's Marine half.
20 Intercessors, 10 Hellblasters, 6 Inceptors and the Command models (which I probably won't use doubles of) will be getting near 1,000 points already. Add in a Redemptor and it should be a solid force for not a whole lot.
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Post by: Racerguy180
I'm glad I waited to buy the start collecting space marines box. @my flgs they said the new boxed set will be $160US.
I was gonna start a Salamander company, now I'm gonna use the Primus to make a new mixed company.
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Post by: ProwlerPC
Uhmmmmmm let me take an appropriate time to think about that. OK done. Nope. Busy on my ork army right now. I'm a collector. Whatever changes they make I can select appropriately for my list as needed if/when I get around to playing the game itself. But you can bet I'm going to get some of those new or buggies no matter how the crunch or look is. Gotta have em in my Waaaagh! If I ever get around to a second army it'll be IG. I've seen enough marines in an infinite number of colours that I don't need to come home and see more.
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Post by: Kaiyanwang
Just waiting half-interested if Tank Guard, Aspect Eldar and Scions will be playable.
I understand the frenzy for the new models and mega-marines are probably inevitable, but I think the new nurgle stuff is the usual, new super-busy garbage.
FW plagues are way better.
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Post by: Ronin_eX
I'm interested in using the Primaris as a chance to do up a bunch of pre-heresy painted Dark Angels and using them alongside my DA. The basic background for it will be a bureaucratic blunder at the forge world painting up all that new Mk. X armour meant that the stuff slated for the Dark Angels was never updated with the various colour changes the Dark Angels have made over the millennia. So they painted it all up to spec for Great Crusade era Dark Angels. It mixes two loves, black and red colour schemes and Gilliam-esque bureaucratic humour!
As for the Death Guard, I've always liked them. The bloated, felshy look. The archaic armour covered in pox and blight. That slow-moving, tough wave of death. So I figure they'll make a good jumping off point for grabbing a faction other than Dark Angels for the first time in over 20 years. Should make for a really different painting experience next to what I normally go with as well.
And if 8th ends up not being to my taste in the end? The army in that box will make an excellent 2nd Edition Death Guard force (a big one too!).
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Post by: TheLumberJack
SharkoutofWata wrote:I've always had a strong Nurgle presence in my Red Corsairs but no real obviously Nurgle contingent. The new Death Guard look good enough for me to find some more bits to make a full Warband under a Nurgle Lord that serves the overall army of Red Corsairs. After all, The Tyrant of Badab doesn't need to bother himself with every little operation.
I am actually building a Red Corsairs force and doing something like this, so what he said
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Post by: thekingofkings
ish......gonna acquire some of the nurgle for SW:A CSM kill team.
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Post by: ArmchairArbiter
Maybe if I had a vanilla space marine army. However I play Space Wolves and don't see how they'll play a big part in our army just yet.
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Post by: BrianDavion
ArmchairArbiter wrote:Maybe if I had a vanilla space marine army. However I play Space Wolves and don't see how they'll play a big part in our army just yet.
given the absolute shallacking the space wolves took at the hands of the 1k sons, I suspect the space Wolves are in despirate need of reinforcement. that combined with their welcoming of the wulfen because "they are our brothers" makes me suspect they'll welcome the Primaris Marines.
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Post by: ArmchairArbiter
BrianDavion wrote:ArmchairArbiter wrote:Maybe if I had a vanilla space marine army. However I play Space Wolves and don't see how they'll play a big part in our army just yet.
given the absolute shallacking the space wolves took at the hands of the 1k sons, I suspect the space Wolves are in despirate need of reinforcement. that combined with their welcoming of the wulfen because "they are our brothers" makes me suspect they'll welcome the Primaris Marines.
We'll do it in our own way.
Also... I never got to read the second half of the book series for war over the Fenris system. I'll need to read it it seems.
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Post by: techsoldaten
I had just started on a Death Guard army when news broke about 8th edition. Going to add the new troops to my force, that's about it.
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Post by: ZergSmasher
I voted that I'm doing both, but really I intend to use the Primaris Marines to bolster my Dark Angels, assuming I can do that. Otherwise they'll become Blood Ravens (maybe I'll split them between the two anyway). I do intend to make use of the Death Guard models as well, as they are too cool to pass up. With that in mind I am holding off on painting any of my existing CSM until I know what can be used by the Death Guard.
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Post by: Lance845
I wont know which lists i want to build for my nids until i see the index. But, i am very glad i built my own swarm lord from a broken fw walking hive tyrant i got off ebay 
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Post by: bullyboy
neither for me. Wanting to start Chaos...but decided it's not going to be Nurgle.
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Post by: Azazelx
Poll needs an "incorporate" option for each and both for those of us with existing armies that we'll roll the new models into.
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Post by: Sgt. Cortez
Azazelx wrote:Poll needs an "incorporate" option for each and both for those of us with existing armies that we'll roll the new models into.
This. I'll add the new Plague Marines to my collection of Death Guard but I won't start a new army because of them.
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Post by: Slaanesh-Devotee
ew god no
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Post by: Freddy Kruger
While I'm getting the new 8th edition starter box, I'm going to be selling both my death guard and primaris marine models, but keeping the rest.
I'm planning to start collecting an Astra militarum army. Used to have one, but sold it when I left the hobby 15-17 years ago, and who doesn't like tanks, bug guns and big standard humans with Mars pattern ceramite balls to take on the galaxies nastiest threats?
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Post by: casvalremdeikun
I am going to integrate the Primaris Marines into my current army, but I am not basing my army around them. I am going to put the two Intercessor Squads, the two Lieutenants, and probably the Hellblasters in my army. If I can find a spot for him, maybe the Ancient as well (I have a Standard Bearer for my Crimson Fists, so it isn't completely necessary). I like the Inceptors. If Crimson Fists still get a bonus with Bolt Weapons, I might look for a place for them as well. But the Captain is pretty much a no-go.
Fluffwise, these Marines are part of the effort to restore the Crimson Fists to full Chapter capacity. But they aren't going to be replacing my Sternguard Squads. If the Hellblasters are functionally Devastators and get a bonus for being Crimson Fists, they might replace my Lascannon Devastators. But Pedro Kantor is still going to be the man in charge.
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Post by: Sensual_T_Rex
I don't plan on starting a new army. While I do like the look of the numarines I have no desire to start a SM army anytime soon. And honestly I don't like the look of the new Death Guard. They just look almost cartoonish to me. However I am curious to see what other cool stuff that GW will come up with. I personally recommend updating the imperial guard. You know for science.
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Post by: ERJAK
I actually really love the interceptors because they remind me of the reapers from SC2. Gonna build me a reaper rush list! Not to mention the promise of a new dread...
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Post by: Future War Cultist
I do look forward to seeing the future imperial guard models.
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Post by: Nithaniel
Its clear that the storyline behind primaris marines is weak that being said they needed something in the fluff to justify a new product line so its as good as any I could think of to allow them to create new models in their most popular selling line.
I've had a bunch of daemons lying around so I will be using both sets of models in my games although the primaris ones will go into my existing chapter not a stand alone army.
If people think that the fluff justification for primaris marines is stupid what would they think is better?
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Post by: Karhedron
I don't plan on starting a whole new army. I will be selling the DG from the starter set as I don't play Chaos. The Primaris Marines will reinforce either my Blood Angels or Space Wolves. I just have to decide how to paint them.
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Post by: Xenomancers
I will probably include some primaris marines in my current Ultramarine army. I'm going to be forging a lot of my own narrative in this case because the primaris fluff is just atrocious.
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Post by: jeff white
The DG are fantastic. Really great models. Would love to start a DG army with some old marines plus the numarines but... I don't have time to paint what I nalready have let alone the time to do justice to those new DG models. But I think everyone who has of in them to do so should because they are really great models IMO
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Post by: Mitochondria
I have 50+ Deathwing Terminators that have not seen a tabletop in five years.
Hell no.
GW can still suck a dick on their pricing.
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Post by: Waaargh
It's a trick question, to which I answered honest. I am not planning to start, at the moment of writing...
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Post by: Yarium
I love Chaos Space Marines, so I'm more than willing to get these models, even if I'm not exactly planning on building an army with them - they'll just go alongside Typhus and the other couple squads of Plague Marines I currently have.
EDIT: And I have a friend that wants the new Primaris Marines, so it's all working out.
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Post by: oni
Unsure at this point, but if I do it will be using the new DG models. I very much dislike the concept of the Primaris SM's.
I have an AdMech army that I was working on (War Convocation), but all work stopped once 8th edition was announced. At this point I don't believe the army I've built will even be usable in 8th.
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Post by: TapedTempest
@Azazelx Option added.
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Post by: Kaiyanwang
Xenomancers wrote:I will probably include some primaris marines in my current Ultramarine army. I'm going to be forging a lot of my own narrative in this case because the primaris fluff is just atrocious.
"golly, these 4th company fellows are quite tall!"
"indeed"
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Post by: BunkhouseBuster
Once I can afford them, yes, to both armies. The new starter set just so happens to match my personal fluff in ways that are kinda scary, and I have been wanting to put together a Death Guard army since late 5th Edition. Now, my custom Chapter is getting its successor in the form or Primaris Marines, and my dream Death Guard army can finally happen in all plastic!
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Post by: CthulhuDawg
I actually have a bunch of unbuilt unpainted chaos models I've acquired over the year starting in 4th edition. I've been having a hard time deciding between The Cleaved and Alpha Legion. Now I'm thinking the older kits will be painted as The Cleaved, use Death Guard Legion rules and be allies to the new line of DG. Nurgle has always been my favorite chaos god. I do keep a special place in my hobby heart for the Alpha Legion though. I love their color schemes and The Harrowing is a kickass fluff tactic.
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Post by: BrianDavion
Xenomancers wrote:I will probably include some primaris marines in my current Ultramarine army. I'm going to be forging a lot of my own narrative in this case because the primaris fluff is just atrocious. [/quote
what fluff is that? we've barely scratched the surface of the fluff so far, I mean try to summerize ANY of the 40k factions in 2 sentences and they're proably gonna sound rediculas.
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Post by: Lobokai
Dang. ATM I'm one of 2 people adding new stuff to old armies. I mean I play UM. Is RG "new"? Or do we just mean Primaris? I'll probably make 20 of them and use 10 at most in a standard battle.
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Post by: BrianDavion
Lobukia wrote:Dang. ATM I'm one of 2 people adding new stuff to old armies. I mean I play UM. Is RG "new"? Or do we just mean Primaris? I'll probably make 20 of them and use 10 at most in a standard battle.
we just mean the starter set stuff I suspect.
let's face it, if you play UMs you have Gulliman
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Post by: SpinCycleDreadnought
I wasn't keen at first, but I'm leaning towards the Primaris marines as I think the jet interceptors look fantastic! Might split a starter for more primaris and have that as a second force
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Post by: Zillian
While I like the new models, and am looking forward to painting up the Death Guard. I'm NOT starting a new army.
I just started a Thousand Sons army, so if I feel like it I can field the DG as allies.
I already have 3 marine armies, so I'm not keen on adding a fourth. My custom (vanilla codex) chapter fluff had them being isolated and almost destroyed before rejoining the Imperium. I was thinking of adding more scouts to them and updating the paint, so adding the Primaris Marines to them seems like the best option. I think I have enough troops for my marine armies, I need more vehicles and some flyers.
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Post by: Stormonu
I've got 8 armies already, so that's a big ol' nope for me.
Though, the Primaris jump (Intercessor?) marines have my interest. However, I've got well over 400 marines already, so I don't need to add anything to that.
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Post by: SolidOakie
The Death Guard edges out the Word Bearers as my second favorite legion. I already have the Word Bearers from Betrayl at Calth (and the termy captain and a traitor librarian) painted in Word Bearers heraldry. I was planning on repainting everything Death Guard and supplementing the new set with them, plus I have a bunch of plaguebearers and 10 blightkings I planned on converting. Unfortunately I think I am going to keep them as Word Bearers and move forward with CSM. The Heresy era armour just doesn't jive with 40k DG. After seeing the new plague marines I don't think I can convert the blight kings convincingly enough. Plus it's a safe bet the DG will be more than represented at my FLGS. They are a fantastic set of space marines but I don't want to run an army half the store already has.
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Post by: Lord Xcapobl
I was planning to start an Ultramarines force ever since I saw the Guillimanminiature, then the rumours for 8th Edition started to become real. I chose not to buy any miniatures (at least for the Space Marines) until the new edition.
It seems the box might be a nice fresh start.
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Post by: Strg Alt
I'm not planning on building an army around the new models.
I have to admit that the new models are great but I have still a lot of miniatures to paint from other box sets:
Space Hulk, Dark Vengeance, Deathwatch Overkill and Doom (new boardgame from 2017). As of now only 16 models from all these boxed games are ready to see tabletop action.
Another detrimental factor is that I already own four forces dedicated to Nurgle: Warriors of the Dark Gods (9th Age), CSM, Traitor Guard/Legion of the Damned and Chaos Daemons. So there is no need to add new models to this collection apart from the Blight Drone which piqued my interest.
As already mentioned the Uber Marines are looking good but they are invalidating the traditional SM model range. They also don“t mesh well with the old school marines because of their size difference and different base size.
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Post by: Asura Varuna
I don't like the stark individuality of the deathguard models. I actually prefer a generally more homogenised appearance in my armies. However, I'd be looking forward to including some of the characters, or perhaps using them as a basis for conversions.
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Post by: Imateria
They're space marines, so not a chance.
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Post by: YeOldSaltPotato
Do the thousand sons count? Really hoping for new world eaters before the end of the year but odds are it's just me getting excited.
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Post by: More Dakka
Considering it. I am tempted to make an Ultramarines army out of the Primaris dudes. I have the HH Guilliman and wouldn't mind finding a reason to play him (don't care for Ultras in 30K). Make a Matt Ward "Better than you" Marines army just to rankle people.
The DG models are amazing so I'll probably do an army of them. What I am considering doing is cutting out the guts and DG iconography and replacing it with cables to make them into Iron Warriors, that way I can supplement the army with my 30K units. That Chaos Levi datasheet has me drooling!
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Post by: Forgotmytea
Nope, I'll be sticking to my Tyranids
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Post by: Vryce
I am not. I don't have an SM army that I wish to put Primaris with, (GKT army), and DG is probably lowest on my CSM 'favorites' list. Though I think the models for both do look fantastic, except for those goofy Inceptors. I already have my projects for 8th going, and the only thing that will change that, is if GW actually releases Sororitas in plastic.
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Post by: Purifier
But what Tyranid player isn't excited by the new things we're seeing, right? If you were hardcore enough to stick with Tyranids until now, these new things must look amazing.
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Post by: Forgotmytea
Purifier wrote:
But what Tyranid player isn't excited by the new things we're seeing, right? If you were hardcore enough to stick with Tyranids until now, these new things must look amazing.
Don't get me wrong, the Primaris look fantastic next to human-scale models - I love finally seeing Marines the size they're depicted in the background  I just really enjoy painting and playing Tyranids, and am really looking forward to using them with the new 8th edition rules. I don't get enough time to play with my Tyranids as much as I'd like as it is, without adding in another army!
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Post by: G00fySmiley
getting 4 boxers worth of primaris, adding them as a company to my current custom space marine chapter Blue steel (run as iron hands or uncorrupted alpha marines depending on when I am feeling)
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Post by: gnome_idea_what
I kind of want to turn a primaris captain model into an ork Warboss, but otherwise my interest is fairly low.
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Post by: Talizvar
Can we call this coming full circle?
My first army was CSM.
My second is Black Templar.
I have much after that but you know.
So yeah, it all fits in ok.
GW and me may manage to kiss and make-up yet.
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Post by: Stormonu
Hey, nobody asked how you were transporting them.
"Is that a Primaris in your pants, or are you just happy to see me?"
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Post by: G00fySmiley
Stormonu wrote:
Hey, nobody asked how you were transporting them.
"Is that a Primaris in your pants, or are you just happy to see me?"
you don't know what my used underwear sells for on ebay :p
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Post by: supreme overlord
I'm currently planning on adding some Primaris marines to an Inquisition force.
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Post by: Kajaki War Pig
Saw them in the flesh today, and it killed any potential I plans I might have had. The click together style of models sucks so much conversion potential out of them, I can't base an army off them.
The models are beautiful, but limited mass potential.
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Post by: BrianDavion
Kajaki War Pig wrote:Saw them in the flesh today, and it killed any potential I plans I might have had. The click together style of models sucks so much conversion potential out of them, I can't base an army off them.
The models are beautiful, but limited mass potential.
they're starter set minis. starter set minis are always "snap tight"
we can expect to see full kits of most if not all those minis soonish though
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Post by: BunkhouseBuster
BrianDavion wrote: Kajaki War Pig wrote:Saw them in the flesh today, and it killed any potential I plans I might have had. The click together style of models sucks so much conversion potential out of them, I can't base an army off them.
The models are beautiful, but limited mass potential.
they're starter set minis. starter set minis are always "snap tight"
we can expect to see full kits of most if not all those minis soonish though
Indeed. The models in the Age of Sigmar Starter Set are the same way - push fit models. But the infantry kits in that have all received proper kits since then with additional options. Give it time and you will probably be able to pick up the regular kits within a year or so.
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Post by: vim_the_good
That would be a big yes for me. Two squads of Intercessors, each riding in a brutal looking repulsor tank will support my guard nicely
I'm not going to invest in the dark imperium box. I'll wait until the multi part kits come out.
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Post by: socrates1999
Doing both armies myself. I have already started writing my back story for my space marines as I have come up with an idea for a color scheme and background.
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Post by: snykyninja
I intend on bringing a couple of units of the new jump pack guys to back up my assault focused blood angels.
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Post by: NoiseMarine with Tinnitus
More Dakka wrote:Considering it. I am tempted to make an Ultramarines army out of the Primaris dudes. I have the HH Guilliman and wouldn't mind finding a reason to play him (don't care for Ultras in 30K). Make a Matt Ward "Better than you" Marines army just to rankle people.
The DG models are amazing so I'll probably do an army of them. What I am considering doing is cutting out the guts and DG iconography and replacing it with cables to make them into Iron Warriors, that way I can supplement the army with my 30K units. That Chaos Levi datasheet has me drooling!
The DG idea is really good. Could say they are a grand company which openly embraces the Obliterator Virus and they are in various states of physical transformation. Take a bit of converting mind.
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