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Anyone remember putting flock on their bases? @ 2020/08/11 04:13:28


Post by: Phobos


I remember the old GW painting guides, paint it green, put some PVA glue on, dunk it in a bin of flock and tap the excess off.

Nobody does this anymore.


Anyone remember putting flock on their bases? @ 2020/08/11 04:41:07


Post by: insaniak


Nope, I always hated the look of flock. Before static grass came along, I went the 'sand painted green' route, instead.


Anyone remember putting flock on their bases? @ 2020/08/11 05:41:10


Post by: jdouglas


I remember when flock was a thing for military miniatures back when I was a kid in the '60s and '70s from the Napoleonic war figs, to larger scale world war II figures (that were about 4 inches tall). I think that it was also used, to a somewhat limited extent, for model railroads and dioramas for slot-car circuits .

I also remember in the '70s buying that green construction paper with green-painted sawdust glued to it for simulated "grass effects". I laugh at the quaintness of that.
Eventually the sawdust slowly shedded off the paper and generally made a mess of things the longer it stayed put.

I think for wargaming the flock was used up to the 3rd ed. 40k; being eventually replaced by sandy gravel, and that synthetic grass-looking stuff, and of course the myriad sculpted scenic bases.


Anyone remember putting flock on their bases? @ 2020/08/11 05:44:14


Post by: aphyon


Yep i have most of my 5th ed army based in a rock/brush basing....then i discovered micro art studios and secret weapons miniatures scenic bases and i never looked back.


Anyone remember putting flock on their bases? @ 2020/08/11 05:46:02


Post by: tauist


Sure do. I'm glad those days are over, it never did look good and that stuff was shedding everywhere!


Anyone remember putting flock on their bases? @ 2020/08/11 06:11:59


Post by: stroller


There are better options now, and I've seen a lot worse... and yes, I have flock on many but not all of my older bases.


Anyone remember putting flock on their bases? @ 2020/08/11 06:32:51


Post by: Kayback


Many of my old bases were flocked. Quite a bit of it was turned into stones when electrostatic grass came along. Black undercoat, grey dry brush over.

Since I've started re painting a bit during lockdown for my birthday my wife and kids got me some stuff like new brushes, new holders and a nice new packet of flocking. I don't have the heart to tell them. Looks like I'm back to flocking.


Anyone remember putting flock on their bases? @ 2020/08/11 07:16:41


Post by: hotsauceman1


My Tau are flocked.


Anyone remember putting flock on their bases? @ 2020/08/11 07:19:30


Post by: insaniak


 jdouglas wrote:

I think for wargaming the flock was used up to the 3rd ed. 40k; being eventually replaced by sandy gravel, and that synthetic grass-looking stuff, and of course the myriad sculpted scenic bases.

Some people did indeed stick with flock, but the painting guides released by GW through second edition all used sand.


Anyone remember putting flock on their bases? @ 2020/08/11 08:33:58


Post by: Vermis


 jdouglas wrote:
I think for wargaming the flock was used up to the 3rd ed. 40k


About when I discovered the hobby, and flock was falling by the wayside. I didn't hate it in mini photos, but when push came to shove, I rathered my own minis didn't look like they were wandering across the planet Pooltable IV.


Anyone remember putting flock on their bases? @ 2020/08/11 08:43:53


Post by: Zillian


My second army has flocked bases. Relax, it's retro!


Anyone remember putting flock on their bases? @ 2020/08/11 09:32:29


Post by: Grimtuff


I do all my bases with sand and static grass. It’s become such an alien concept with newer gamers it’s quite funny.

Luetin09 on YouTube had people asking him what on Earth he was doing when basing some minis on a stream once, it’s now that much of a foreign concept to people in the GW ecosystem.


Anyone remember putting flock on their bases? @ 2020/08/11 10:28:11


Post by: Nevelon


I still flock.

My snow bases (Ultras, Deathwatch, Nids) is a little more involved then the old system, but is still flock based.

My meadow bases (Eldar, Undead) hew pretty close to the Old Way. I use black rims, not goblin green, but the green does serve still as the under layer.

My bag of green flock still dates from the ‘80s.


Anyone remember putting flock on their bases? @ 2020/08/11 10:35:55


Post by: tauist


I think imma start using "flock" instead of that "feth" yall trendy dakkanauts are using in your lingo

flock yes


Anyone remember putting flock on their bases? @ 2020/08/11 11:20:18


Post by: Kayback


 Grimtuff wrote:
I do all my bases with sand and static grass. It’s become such an alien concept with newer gamers it’s quite funny.

Luetin09 on YouTube had people asking him what on Earth he was doing when basing some minis on a stream once, it’s now that much of a foreign concept to people in the GW ecosystem.


What do they use now? It still looks like sand and grass.


Anyone remember putting flock on their bases? @ 2020/08/11 11:38:03


Post by: Nevelon


Kayback wrote:
 Grimtuff wrote:
I do all my bases with sand and static grass. It’s become such an alien concept with newer gamers it’s quite funny.

Luetin09 on YouTube had people asking him what on Earth he was doing when basing some minis on a stream once, it’s now that much of a foreign concept to people in the GW ecosystem.


What do they use now? It still looks like sand and grass.


I think the official GW recommendation is either using one of their sculpted bases, or smearing one of their technical baseing paints on to get the cracked mud/etc look.


Anyone remember putting flock on their bases? @ 2020/08/11 12:41:42


Post by: Kayback


 Nevelon wrote:
Kayback wrote:
 Grimtuff wrote:
I do all my bases with sand and static grass. It’s become such an alien concept with newer gamers it’s quite funny.

Luetin09 on YouTube had people asking him what on Earth he was doing when basing some minis on a stream once, it’s now that much of a foreign concept to people in the GW ecosystem.


What do they use now? It still looks like sand and grass.


I think the official GW recommendation is either using one of their sculpted bases, or smearing one of their technical baseing paints on to get the cracked mud/etc look.


Ah I didn't think to check a painting guide I was just going on the GW product shots.

Thanks!


Anyone remember putting flock on their bases? @ 2020/08/11 12:49:44


Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured


When I started it was tea leaves (took paint better than sand and slightly less likely to fall off over time)

I use a bit of flock for some schemes now though (but dipping the whole base, far too messy, superglue and sprinkle for a faster, neater result, and painting the under the area first makes it look better too)


Anyone remember putting flock on their bases? @ 2020/08/11 13:23:51


Post by: FrozenDwarf


Everything has to start somewhere and then the evolution comes.

"flock" per say has no place in todays marked of static grass, different pastes and resin enviromental parts.


Anyone remember putting flock on their bases? @ 2020/08/11 13:36:44


Post by: Grimtuff


 FrozenDwarf wrote:
Everything has to start somewhere and then the evolution comes.

"flock" per say has no place in todays marked of static grass, different pastes and resin enviromental parts.


You can take my bird sand, slate and static grass from my cold, dead hands.

Hate those “basing” paints.


Anyone remember putting flock on their bases? @ 2020/08/11 13:57:12


Post by: Tycho


Hate those “basing” paints.


Me too. I never bothered with flock, but I still have my bag of sand from the 80's


Anyone remember putting flock on their bases? @ 2020/08/11 14:07:43


Post by: Nevelon


Gettin a snow base with flock and glue is cheep and easy. You can step it up with water effects for a more slushy look. A lifetime supply will cost you like $15 bucks, maybe $20 if you spring for the extra options.

GW charges how much for white paint mixed with a little sand? In a tiny pot...


Anyone remember putting flock on their bases? @ 2020/08/11 14:36:31


Post by: infinite_array


I'm pretty sure tons of people still use flock. I do. Static grass looks terrible on 15mm and smaller miniatures.


Anyone remember putting flock on their bases? @ 2020/08/11 15:03:30


Post by: FrozenDwarf


 infinite_array wrote:
I'm pretty sure tons of people still use flock. I do. Static grass looks terrible on 15mm and smaller miniatures.


are you talking 28mm scale grass on 6-15mmm? if so i agree. thats why there is static grass for that small scale too.


Anyone remember putting flock on their bases? @ 2020/08/11 15:26:44


Post by: Stormonu


 Phobos wrote:
I remember the old GW painting guides, paint it green, put some PVA glue on, dunk it in a bin of flock and tap the excess off.

Nobody does this anymore.


Just did some for Bolt Action last night. Which is quite a change for me as most of my armies have (painted) black bases.


Anyone remember putting flock on their bases? @ 2020/08/11 15:35:52


Post by: Voss


My beastmen and tyranids are flocked. If I ever go back to them, I'll keep doing it.

I moved to sand for other armies, and I'm trying out the texture 'paint' stuff on an army. Underwhelmed, will likely stick to sand in the future.


Anyone remember putting flock on their bases? @ 2020/08/11 16:07:55


Post by: Racerguy180


I just looked at my RTB-01 Beakies to confirm that they (30yrs ago) had been flocked & what (little)remains on the bases is indeed "flock".


Anyone remember putting flock on their bases? @ 2020/08/11 18:36:00


Post by: ccs


Yes. Still use it.
I use flock, static grass, sand, rock, cork, sculpted bases, etc - all tools in the inventory. Wich tools depends upon the look/effect i want.


Anyone remember putting flock on their bases? @ 2020/08/11 18:54:52


Post by: RaptorusRex


I have snow flock I mix with PVA. You can see it on the Wolf Lord's base.


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Anyone remember putting flock on their bases? @ 2020/08/11 19:20:37


Post by: catbarf


I've never been one for flock myself, but there's something to be said for those old photos in White Dwarf and army codices where the green flock and Goblin Green base rims blend perfectly into the green flock of the table. Minis today tend to use their bases more as another element of theming the army, rather than to match a presumed board style.

So in that regard, odd as it might sound, I think the modern counterpart to flocked bases is clear (transparent) bases.


Anyone remember putting flock on their bases? @ 2020/08/11 19:29:05


Post by: youwashock


Flocking-A, I do. Still use it.


Anyone remember putting flock on their bases? @ 2020/08/11 19:32:24


Post by: Dysartes


 hotsauceman1 wrote:
My Tau are flocked.


"Get flocked" is close to something I say to Tau players quite often


Anyone remember putting flock on their bases? @ 2020/08/11 20:58:29


Post by: Racerguy180


 Dysartes wrote:
 hotsauceman1 wrote:
My Tau are flocked.


"Get flocked" is close to something I say to Tau players quite often



That's something I think everyone says when they play against Tau!

I have been toying with "recreating" my original Salamanders in Primaris, so of I do, time to get flockin!


Anyone remember putting flock on their bases? @ 2020/08/12 00:09:46


Post by: Vulcan


My first army - Skaven - are done exactly like that: Paint green, add glue, dip in green flocking. Put them all together and it looks like they're attacking across a pool table.

Second army - Bretonnia - is done similarly, but using a premade mix called 'spring flocking'. A couple shades of green with tiny amounts of yellow and red. Looks much better, at least from arm's length.

Third army was the Dark Elves. Got much more elaborate here using sand painted dark brown, snow flocking, and 'dead grass' static grass.

Fourth army was Dwarves. Added small rocks to sand painted grey (like gravel), and small clumps of the 'spring flocking'.

Current army in progress is Lizardmen. Again, using sand painted dark brown, but this time using a redder brown. Going for a 'ground level of the rainforest' look, dirt and dead leaves, not sure how I'm going to do the leaves yet. I could just use red, orange, and brown flocking but that seems too fluffy to get the effect I want.

I've heard some people use loose tea for such effects. Anyone have any experience with using tea for basing? Seems like it would be a bit monchromatic, can it be colored with inks before being glued to the base?


Anyone remember putting flock on their bases? @ 2020/08/12 01:45:30


Post by: Leth


Goblin green, flock, and then static grass if you were a fancy fether.

Good times.

Eventually I got those adhesive bushes for when I felt super bougie


Anyone remember putting flock on their bases? @ 2020/08/12 05:15:40


Post by: alphaecho


 Grimtuff wrote:
 FrozenDwarf wrote:
Everything has to start somewhere and then the evolution comes.

"flock" per say has no place in todays marked of static grass, different pastes and resin enviromental parts.


You can take my bird sand, slate and static grass from my cold, dead hands.

Hate those “basing” paints.


I still have a seemingly never ending carton of chinchilla dust for basing mine. It' amazing. Our dog is 12 so I must have had the carton for nearly fourteen years, left over from when we last had one of the critters.


Anyone remember putting flock on their bases? @ 2020/08/12 06:32:08


Post by: Just Tony


Remember? I flocked bases last week...


Anyone remember putting flock on their bases? @ 2020/08/12 08:53:10


Post by: WaveyRaven


I still do bases the old way. But that's because I'm still hanging on to the belief that one day I'll have my 3rd edition fantasy armies completely painted and based in some sort of coherent manner.

New models get newer methods. Flock still has its place though. Just have to be clever about how you use it. Multiple colours, sand, rocks, static grass of different lengths etc.


Anyone remember putting flock on their bases? @ 2020/08/12 09:27:30


Post by: Slipspace


I'm a hardcore flocker for the most part. Well, flock and static grass and gravel in different combinations depending on the army. For example, my Necrons are quite neautral in colour so I find a vibrant and simple green static grass/flock base sets off the models well, while my SM use a gravel/flock/grass mix.

I hate the textured paints and while scenic bases look OK, I find they often break immersion for me if your entire army is standing on a bunch of rocks or clambering over ruins modelled on their bases.


Anyone remember putting flock on their bases? @ 2020/08/12 09:51:51


Post by: balmong7


I've never used flock before. It always seemed fiddly to me, and too easy to accidentally scrape off through use. I'm a Texture Paint guy.


Anyone remember putting flock on their bases? @ 2020/08/12 09:54:03


Post by: Skinnereal


Yep, I flock. It is what was in the starter paint set I bought when I got back into the hobby. So, my first recent army had flock. Over sand


Anyone remember putting flock on their bases? @ 2020/08/12 09:59:53


Post by: Grimtuff


alphaecho wrote:
 Grimtuff wrote:
 FrozenDwarf wrote:
Everything has to start somewhere and then the evolution comes.

"flock" per say has no place in todays marked of static grass, different pastes and resin enviromental parts.


You can take my bird sand, slate and static grass from my cold, dead hands.

Hate those “basing” paints.


I still have a seemingly never ending carton of chinchilla dust for basing mine. It' amazing. Our dog is 12 so I must have had the carton for nearly fourteen years, left over from when we last had one of the critters.


My bird sand is topped up quite frequently. The tub it is in however is a Rolo ice cream tub. I’m pretty sure Rolo ice cream has not existed for at least a decade. Think I’ve had that tub near 20 years by now.


Anyone remember putting flock on their bases? @ 2020/08/12 10:48:46


Post by: Momotaro


Nice one Grimtuff! I have a collection of Tesco and Asda coleslaw tubs from the early 2000s for all my sand and flocks. Still going strong!

I last flocked a model base... ooh, last week.

Tried the various textured gels and pastes - not a fan, to be honest. Tufts, on the other hand, are a great development.

The diorama and model railway crowd still use a ton of sand and flock, although it tends not to be dyed sawdust these days.
Tea leaves and dried herbs, of course, are great for fallen leaves.


Anyone remember putting flock on their bases? @ 2020/08/12 13:28:52


Post by: Easy E


Wargaming: Where you glue actual sand to something, then paint the sand to make it look more like sand!


Anyone remember putting flock on their bases? @ 2020/08/12 18:22:14


Post by: Captain Brown


I only did green flock for WFB IIRC. In fact the last few painted units I have up for sale in the Swap Shop are the last few I have with the flocked bases. I even have a small Tupperware container this a little bit left somewhere.

Cheers,

CB


Anyone remember putting flock on their bases? @ 2020/08/12 18:33:23


Post by: JamesY


I did the sand painted brown with patches of flock on top thing. As far as I recall, I've always edged my bases in black though, even during the goblin green days.


Anyone remember putting flock on their bases? @ 2020/08/12 18:39:24


Post by: Commodus Leitdorf


My very first army was flocked. Mostly because I followed the painting guides I had found online and in army books.

It was only after I had gone to my first tournament that I realized no one did that anymore...

I have been slowly rebasing/painting my old army so I do still have a bunch of flocked bases, although I mixed my flock with some pebbles to give it a grassy field look.


Anyone remember putting flock on their bases? @ 2020/08/12 19:07:36


Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured


 Vulcan wrote:
=Current army in progress is Lizardmen. Again, using sand painted dark brown, but this time using a redder brown. Going for a 'ground level of the rainforest' look, dirt and dead leaves, not sure how I'm going to do the leaves yet. I could just use red, orange, and brown flocking but that seems too fluffy to get the effect I want.

I've heard some people use loose tea for such effects. Anyone have any experience with using tea for basing? Seems like it would be a bit monchromatic, can it be colored with inks before being glued to the base?


for leaves these are good http://www.greenstuffworld.com/pt/101-punches

(either used thin card and paint it, or even easier dry leaves)


Anyone remember putting flock on their bases? @ 2020/08/12 23:14:24


Post by: malfred


I don't understand the problem with flock.


Anyone remember putting flock on their bases? @ 2020/08/12 23:56:26


Post by: Just Tony


 malfred wrote:
I don't understand the problem with flock.


Simple. You don't do the thing in the book that they suggest to do as it'll look like what everyone else is doing, in theory. Instead, you do exactly what everyone else is doing in practice.


Anyone remember putting flock on their bases? @ 2020/08/13 02:41:17


Post by: Voss


 catbarf wrote:
I've never been one for flock myself, but there's something to be said for those old photos in White Dwarf and army codices where the green flock and Goblin Green base rims blend perfectly into the green flock of the table. Minis today tend to use their bases more as another element of theming the army, rather than to match a presumed board style.

So in that regard, odd as it might sound, I think the modern counterpart to flocked bases is clear (transparent) bases.


Not at all. A properly flocked base looks good. A 'clear' base just looks like a big chunk of plastic on the table.


Anyone remember putting flock on their bases? @ 2020/08/13 04:17:52


Post by: NinthMusketeer


In my early years of wargaming it was still a thing. My skills were not up to par anyways so I'm glad I didn't waste any high quality materials


Anyone remember putting flock on their bases? @ 2020/08/13 07:00:02


Post by: Dolnikan


I actually still do it as part of my 'normal' basing. It's just one of those things that I like to tie everything together. But it seems like that's the minority around these parts.


Anyone remember putting flock on their bases? @ 2020/08/13 10:48:31


Post by: Vermis


Grimtuff wrote:I do all my bases with sand and static grass. It’s become such an alien concept with newer gamers it’s quite funny.

Luetin09 on YouTube had people asking him what on Earth he was doing when basing some minis on a stream once...


I was surprised...

...it’s now that much of a foreign concept to people in the GW ecosystem.

Nevelon wrote:I think the official GW recommendation is either using one of their sculpted bases, or smearing one of their technical baseing paints on to get the cracked mud/etc look.


... aaand then I wasn't.

infinite_array wrote:I'm pretty sure tons of people still use flock. I do. Static grass looks terrible on 15mm and smaller miniatures.


Spoiler:


Problem solved.

Grimtuff wrote:My bird sand is topped up quite frequently.


Just sieve it carefully. Unless you're basing nurgle. Or kroot.


Anyone remember putting flock on their bases? @ 2020/08/13 13:39:55


Post by: gorgon


 Momotaro wrote:
Nice one Grimtuff! I have a collection of Tesco and Asda coleslaw tubs from the early 2000s for all my sand and flocks. Still going strong!

I last flocked a model base... ooh, last week.

Tried the various textured gels and pastes - not a fan, to be honest. Tufts, on the other hand, are a great development.

The diorama and model railway crowd still use a ton of sand and flock, although it tends not to be dyed sawdust these days.


I still have a 25 year old big bag of Woodland Scenics green blend and a felt mat that's flocked to match it. If my Tyranids were an active army of mine instead of being boxed up, I'd probably still be using flock here and there along with sand and static grass.

And yeah, there are folks in those hobbies using flock and making stuff that looks amazing. Nothing's wrong with the technique. It's just a look that GW doesn't push, and people follow their lead whether they want to admit it or not.


Anyone remember putting flock on their bases? @ 2020/08/13 15:38:26


Post by: Vulcan


 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
 Vulcan wrote:
=Current army in progress is Lizardmen. Again, using sand painted dark brown, but this time using a redder brown. Going for a 'ground level of the rainforest' look, dirt and dead leaves, not sure how I'm going to do the leaves yet. I could just use red, orange, and brown flocking but that seems too fluffy to get the effect I want.

I've heard some people use loose tea for such effects. Anyone have any experience with using tea for basing? Seems like it would be a bit monchromatic, can it be colored with inks before being glued to the base?


for leaves these are good http://www.greenstuffworld.com/pt/101-punches

(either used thin card and paint it, or even easier dry leaves)


I've seen those before. Here in the desert in New Mexico, dry leaves are... not easy to acquire. On the other hand, tea is readily available at the grocery store.

Flocking is like drybrushing. It's a wonderful tool when used properly, but if you over-rely on it your results will not be as nice.


Anyone remember putting flock on their bases? @ 2020/08/13 15:40:55


Post by: LunarSol


I still do for large model count games games.


Anyone remember putting flock on their bases? @ 2020/08/13 16:44:22


Post by: Inquisitor Lord Katherine


 Easy E wrote:
Wargaming: Where you glue actual sand to something, then paint the sand to make it look more like sand!


I have unpainted sand for my Guardsmen bases. It's pretty obvious for what it is, but it is easy, which is good for guardsmen.

That said, I never wanted my soldiers to be fighting on grass, so I never did flocking. Mud is sand & sawdust mixed with brown. Snow was sand and baking soda mixed with white. I now use GW's effect paint, because the former methods made a hell of a mess and tend to shed everywhere, which GW's effect paint does a lot less. Mostly. Sorta.


I've always wanted to make a board for each of my armies, but boards are expensive and it wouldn't be a "good" playable board for most of them


Anyone remember putting flock on their bases? @ 2020/08/13 20:56:12


Post by: skchsan


Pepperidge Farm remembers.


Anyone remember putting flock on their bases? @ 2020/08/14 10:28:53


Post by: Arbitrator


My Guard/WHFB/Warmahordes/ASoI&F are all sand/flock/static grass, albeit having added some tufts here and there as time has gone on. My GSC are all sand painted to look like gravel.

I quite like the basing pastes for things like crackled earth, but not for a typical dirt ground. I tried Astrogranite once but I just did not like it. That said I'm planning on investing in one of those giant tubs of Vallejo basing paste for a muddy-field look to my Flames of War Normandy models.

 malfred wrote:
I don't understand the problem with flock.

It's not the official Games Workshop(tm) way of doing things anymore, therefore it's wrong/bad.


Anyone remember putting flock on their bases? @ 2020/08/14 13:17:20


Post by: Kayback


 Arbitrator wrote:
My Guard/WHFB/Warmahordes/ASoI&F are all sand/flock/static grass, albeit having added some tufts here and there as time has gone on. My GSC are all sand painted to look like gravel.

I quite like the basing pastes for things like crackled earth, but not for a typical dirt ground. I tried Astrogranite once but I just did not like it. That said I'm planning on investing in one of those giant tubs of Vallejo basing paste for a muddy-field look to my Flames of War Normandy models.

 malfred wrote:
I don't understand the problem with flock.

It's not the official Games Workshop(tm) way of doing things anymore, therefore it's wrong/bad.


IMHO it just looks dated.


Anyone remember putting flock on their bases? @ 2020/08/15 15:56:11


Post by: malfred


By flock do you just mean flock by itself?

Or does that include other basing elements?



Anyone remember putting flock on their bases? @ 2020/08/15 16:41:47


Post by: AegisGrimm


I use painted sand with peel and stick static grass clumps on my newer bases (especially on post-apoc and Wild West figures), but I have flocked my fantasy stuff the same way, for decades. It's tradition, at this point, over hundreds of figures.



Anyone remember putting flock on their bases? @ 2020/08/15 22:45:44


Post by: Sumilidon


I still use flock for my bases but only as a base for static grass. My Stonehorn Beastraiders are painted as if they are wandering the grassy plains rather than snowy wastelands and as such I use a lot of static grass as well as a off bit of flowers combined with stirland mud to give the impression of tracks / countryside paths. By itself, static grass looks quite thin so I flock the area first then re-do the glue with static grass (blend of colours). The glue dries clear, the grass as a textured undertone and the static grass adds a fuller texture.


Anyone remember putting flock on their bases? @ 2020/08/18 14:27:29


Post by: infinite_array


Which sized static grass should I use? It seems like 6mm and 2mm are popular lengths. Should I mix these together for a more varies look?


Anyone remember putting flock on their bases? @ 2020/08/18 20:18:10


Post by: filbert


I still put flock on my Epic bases for that retro 90's look:



Anyone remember putting flock on their bases? @ 2020/08/19 13:16:58


Post by: Arbitrator


 infinite_array wrote:
Which sized static grass should I use? It seems like 6mm and 2mm are popular lengths. Should I mix these together for a more varies look?

Correct. If the grass it all the same length it looks odd. 2mm is generally used as your 'basing' layer, whilst the larger ones go atop it.


Anyone remember putting flock on their bases? @ 2020/08/19 14:15:35


Post by: Stevefamine


Flock is viable at the 6-10 mm small scale and still used in non-GW often and in historicals

A mixture of multiple basing ingredients is great and flock still has a use





Anyone remember putting flock on their bases? @ 2020/08/19 14:22:23


Post by: Just Tony


Still don't see why people look down on this.

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Anyone remember putting flock on their bases? @ 2020/08/19 16:30:42


Post by: Nevelon


 Just Tony wrote:
Still don't see why people look down on this.


In that example, because of the camera angle.


Anyone remember putting flock on their bases? @ 2020/08/19 19:34:22


Post by: Sumilidon


 infinite_array wrote:
Which sized static grass should I use? It seems like 6mm and 2mm are popular lengths. Should I mix these together for a more varies look?


I keep them separate and glue separate. 6mm is good for near rocks or areas you would expect it to grow in shade, otherwise 2mm everywhere else.


Anyone remember putting flock on their bases? @ 2020/08/19 20:32:08


Post by: infinite_array


Kewl. I'm working on a new project 28mm project (Early War Germans for the 1939 invasion of Poland) so I'll try some static grass.

Also, here's some of my recent stuff using flock. 10mm ACW and 28mm WW2. I've been using tufts to break up the 28mm stuff, but it'll be interesting to see how it compares to static grass.





Anyone remember putting flock on their bases? @ 2020/08/20 16:52:33


Post by: Easy E


Am I the only one who dislikes basing (Flock, static grass, kitty litter, what have you)?

I prefer either the black bases for single, skirmish minis or just painting the base brownish and sponging on some green shades.


Anyone remember putting flock on their bases? @ 2020/08/20 19:41:21


Post by: Stevefamine


 Easy E wrote:
Am I the only one who dislikes basing (Flock, static grass, kitty litter, what have you)?

I prefer either the black bases for single, skirmish minis or just painting the base brownish and sponging on some green shades.


You're the extreme minority

Basing is my favorite part of the process. I fething hate painting minis mostly and look forward to basing them.

Try out working on terrain or some dioramas!



Anyone remember putting flock on their bases? @ 2020/08/20 20:20:13


Post by: Commodus Leitdorf


Frankly I somewhat miss the simplicity of just flock and Goblin Green bases. Basing a whole army is pretty straight forward this way, not the dumb thing I did like getting a Greenstuff world roller and having to greenstuff each base to make the stone floor I want for my armies.

So much work...



Anyone remember putting flock on their bases? @ 2020/08/22 03:13:31


Post by: Vulcan


 Easy E wrote:
Am I the only one who dislikes basing (Flock, static grass, kitty litter, what have you)?

I prefer either the black bases for single, skirmish minis or just painting the base brownish and sponging on some green shades.


Quite possibly.

But hey, it's your minis. Do it your way. So long as you like the results that's all that matters.

Any pics you care to share?


Anyone remember putting flock on their bases? @ 2020/08/22 10:37:53


Post by: Nevelon


For decades I just kept most of my minis on plain black bases. Tidied up, so no paint slop, but plain. Didn’t want to clash with the battlefield. My Undead I did base in the Goblin Green and flock of the time.

There are some solid arguments for keeping it plain. Don’t clash from the table, don’t distract from the mini, don’t drag the same rock around the battlefield. Less work. I was happy with it for years.

But I am glad I started baseing.


Anyone remember putting flock on their bases? @ 2020/08/22 15:07:35


Post by: malfred


 Nevelon wrote:
 Just Tony wrote:
Still don't see why people look down on this.


In that example, because of the camera angle.


This thread deserves a lock just for this.



Anyone remember putting flock on their bases? @ 2020/08/22 15:18:29


Post by: Nevelon


 malfred wrote:
 Nevelon wrote:
 Just Tony wrote:
Still don't see why people look down on this.


In that example, because of the camera angle.


This thread deserves a lock just for this.



Dad gonna dad joke. Can’t help it.

To add some pics to my previous point, The classic Goblin Green flock to match the tables of the day:

The table is a 4x8 rescue from when a FLGS went out of business in the late 90s.

These days I black rim, as I think it sets them off nicely, and frames the bases. So when you are not playing on a vintage table, there is a line of demarkation between the mini and the table. Makes it a little less jarring IMHO.


And on larger bases, I use tufts and rocks, not just pure flock.


Anyone remember putting flock on their bases? @ 2020/08/23 11:06:41


Post by: Arbitrator


 Nevelon wrote:
 Just Tony wrote:
Still don't see why people look down on this.


In that example, because of the camera angle.

Moderators, please ban this man.

Anyway, I can see the appeal of plain black bases but I find most people play on green fields enough to justify giving most of mine a grasslands base. Of course with more/most(?) 40k boards now taking on urban settings, particularly in GW stores, I could see an argument away from it, but for fantasy games it's common enough that black would always 'stand out' versus grass, which only contrasts some of the time.


Anyone remember putting flock on their bases? @ 2020/08/24 16:38:33


Post by: Easy E


 Vulcan wrote:
 Easy E wrote:
Am I the only one who dislikes basing (Flock, static grass, kitty litter, what have you)?

I prefer either the black bases for single, skirmish minis or just painting the base brownish and sponging on some green shades.


Quite possibly.

But hey, it's your minis. Do it your way. So long as you like the results that's all that matters.

Any pics you care to share?


These aren't 40K, but.....



Bases just painted up with no flock/moss/static grass, etc.



Just black bases on very old 40K models.


Anyone remember putting flock on their bases? @ 2020/08/30 12:59:02


Post by: DarkBlack


I just flock bases for smaller scales, especially 6mm. I might add a rock or something for 15mm.

For 28mm I use a little flock here and there, along with other stuff, as appropriate.


Anyone remember putting flock on their bases? @ 2020/08/30 13:21:39


Post by: Slipstream


Way way back, flock was all you could get so I have a lot of minis that are based that way. Miniatures that I based in the late 80s' still have all the flock on them(it refuses to budge!), my only gripe with it is that it tends to fade; I based all my necrons with black flock which over time turned into light grey, and I ended up covering it with black dust.
Recently I've been using rubber flock for my WW2 figures and I've been impressed with it, it gives good coverage and sticks really well.


Anyone remember putting flock on their bases? @ 2020/08/30 13:21:44


Post by: solkan


I remember flocking bases, and then I stopped in favor of plain bases, cleaned up and marked with whatever the game system needs (front arc markings, colored ring for unit designation, model name, etc.). Just enough work on the base to cover up the tabs or whatever if it's a metal model.

I'm solidly in the "You're using the model as a game piece. The purpose of the base is to facilitate the use of the use of the model in the game" camp. Sure, dioramas are nice, but if you're building a diorama your model would look even better without that base.



Anyone remember putting flock on their bases? @ 2020/08/30 14:39:04


Post by: Sgt. Cortez


Interesting, before reading this thread I considered flock to be the usual way of doing bases. Of course there are sculpted Bases if you have a lot of money or there are technical colors if you want to go cheap, but flock is what most people usually do imo.


Anyone remember putting flock on their bases? @ 2020/09/12 23:34:28


Post by: thegreatchimp


Yep. Started the hobby around '95 and in the 3 years I collected I didn't even consider using anything on bases except 2 coats of goblin green and flock. Because as far as I could see, that was how it was done. Even most of the studio models were based like this until '98 iirc?

I think the most adventurous thing I did with bases was putting a skull, or a rock on them, ha...it'd look pretty dull by today's standards.


Anyone remember putting flock on their bases? @ 2020/09/15 16:28:34


Post by: Cronch


I started with sand+paint method, now I just go for texture paste+ rocks+self adhesive tufts(or pigments for urban/other textures) I cannot imagine switching to flock, just like I can't imagine going back to 90's fashion style in clothing, as amusing as it was at the time.


Anyone remember putting flock on their bases? @ 2020/09/15 21:50:46


Post by: TinyLegions


I have to admit that my Dwarf army is flocked. That is one of those "never again" moments for me. Different story on terrain, but on a base, it just does not look right in my eye.


Anyone remember putting flock on their bases? @ 2020/09/15 21:55:00


Post by: Conservative Heretic


Actually, I do it for everything, using that exact procedure, but I've never read that book.


Anyone remember putting flock on their bases? @ 2020/09/16 22:59:22


Post by: Olthannon


My current fantasy army is flocked with some nice autumn woodland stuff I picked up from a model rail shop for dead cheap. There's nout wrong with flock. Does the job well for me.

I guess for 40k people want to do bases that are a bit more grubby and alien.


Anyone remember putting flock on their bases? @ 2020/09/17 07:17:23


Post by: Pacific


 filbert wrote:
I still put flock on my Epic bases for that retro 90's look:



Was going to say, I think it still looks good on very small scales (I use on Epic too, even small static grasses can look like they are walking through a corn field!)

It's actually still quite popular with model railway enthusiasts, tons of that stuff available in big tubs from 'model scenics' still


Anyone remember putting flock on their bases? @ 2020/09/17 09:03:42


Post by: Kayback


 Pacific wrote:


It's actually still quite popular with model railway enthusiasts, tons of that stuff available in big tubs from 'model scenics' still


I'm actually on my way to a hobby railroad shop this week (well like tomorrow I guess) to buy electrostatic grass cos I've finally run out.


Anyone remember putting flock on their bases? @ 2020/09/18 20:17:53


Post by: Rybrook


I made a huge amount of flock not too long ago for the retro themed paint competitions, I used a whole pot of goblin green some water and a large bag of Javis fine cork chippings.

The rest of the flock will be used on my next eldar project.