Everyone name a faction that you've always wanted to build/paint/play but for some reason you've just never gotten around to it.

For me it's Blood Angels. They always looked great to me, but I've never picked them up. When first starting out, I didn't get them because a handful of people already played them(right after their 5th edition update). Ever since then when I looked at picking up a new army I always felt their rules, or the current edition, didn't favor them and didn't want to spend the money on something that was going to do poorly. This continues to this day, despite having 2 apocalypse sized armies, 2 kill teams, and 1 30k army.

Genestealer Cult.

Because it'd be a huge investment in money and time to paint. Love the models and faction though.

Iyanden. Played my first intro game as them and got hooked. Loved the Elven High Tech Necromancer vibe. Picked a cheaper intro set based army instead to start out.

Over the years being committed to other forces and a hatred for the OP nature of Eldar staples in the editions when starting them was an option has stopped me.

Imperial Guard, Black Templars and Adeptus Custodes.

Imperial Guard was my first real "what-if" for me. It was basically between them and Orks, but at the time Imperial Guard still had their 3.5 codex while the Orks had recently released their 4th (5th?) edition codex and they had the mix of numbers and dakka that guard had and the close combat orientation of marines. The guard range was also heavily metal at that time, with very little tank variation. That plus once I got into Ork fluff and the sheer army variation possible (Trukk Rush, Battlewagon Brigade, Green Tide, Kan Wall, etc.) meant that Orks were the way to go. If I think about them currently, it's hard to justify given how ancient their core plastic infantry range is without going 3rd party and having 2 horde armies is too much for me. I've been debating if having a Tempestus focused army would be feasible, and I was originally considering a soup of them, Templars or Custodes but 9th ed rules prohibiting soup nipped that in the bud.

I absolutely love the fluff behind Black Templars and the model range, but Black Templars had a similar issue where their codex was fairly outdated, which had given them some perks but also made difficult to account for the disparity between them and regular SM rules. Any future interest was further decreased as they were rolled into the main SM codex, with their rules being pretty limited and lack-lustre, and the optimal way of playing them against how their lore portrayed them (min squads of crusaders with lascannon and plasma gun). Now they're in a better place rules-wise, but it still largely feels like they were an after thought as far as rules go, and the Primaris aesthetic, outside of the Bladeguard Vets, don't really match with the Crusader theme of the army, not to mention that the BT conversion kit doesn't work with the Primaris range.

When Custodes first came out, they were literally a non-faction, but once their codex and model range was expanded, I was quickly drawn to the Shadowkeeper colour scheme, not to mention the kick-ass bikes and termies. It was also a hyper-elite army that contrasted with my Ork playstyle, but so far I've resisted, mainly because I have so many Orks to still paint, but also partly because it wasn't until 9th ed that they were feasible as a mono-faction.

I guess we'll see how long I'll hold out and stay as Ork-centric as possible!

I've wanted to do T'au since I first started. And they remain one of the few armies now I've never done. Other factions just get in the way, usually as a result of buying multi-faction boxes, and feeling obliged to get a small army of that faction before moving on!

 l0k1 wrote:
Everyone name a faction that you've always wanted to build/paint/play but for some reason you've just never gotten around to it.

For me it's Blood Angels. They always looked great to me, but I've never picked them up. When first starting out, I didn't get them because a handful of people already played them(right after their 5th edition update). Ever since then when I looked at picking up a new army I always felt their rules, or the current edition, didn't favor them and didn't want to spend the money on something that was going to do poorly. This continues to this day, despite having 2 apocalypse sized armies, 2 kill teams, and 1 30k army.

Chaos and Tyranids.

I haven't picked up Tyranids because I just can't do another horde army. I already have IG, and I already have old-Sisters which was about as expensive or more. I also already have 5 armies. But, I do think the general playstyle of Tyranids is cool, with a lot of very aggressive shooty or fighty little guys and an also lot of big guys with highly mobile short/midrange shooting. Also, starship troopers is awesome, and I already have the MI.

And as for Chaos, it's really because I like the concept of Chaos Cults of mostly ordinary humans with maybe a few CSM "Military Advisors" legitimately fighting of their own free will [the free will and choices being their own and not a product of alien actual-rape is something that's important, which is why I hate GSC] to free themselves from the Imperium's oppression but falling to dark ends to try to match the overwhelming power of the state's enforcers. This isn't actually a supported archetype at all by the Chaos books, which pretty much focus on Abbaddon's 10k year grudge match symmetric war with hahaha we-eat-babies levels of arbitrary evil without purpose, but it could be and if we got an army with Chaos Toyota Trucks and stuff, I would pick that up quickly.

Nids. Coz Alien movie Alien Queen inspired hive tyrant from 2005(?) was dope and my pride and joy when I was 10 despite sucking big time... And also becasue they seem to be the opposite of eldar visualy so would make for a cool secondary army to teach friends.

But then I remember Nids suck and it would be such a struggle to make balanced lists for the purpose and certainly could not compete in pick up games unless I buy and like 180 infantry...

For me it's the Tau. When I was first truly introduced to 40k way back in 5th ed they were the faction I liked the look, lore and most of the playstyle. I was GW price adverse at the time, didn't enjoy miniatures war games (I was more of a ttrpg player then) and the Tau were generally hated if I remember correctly.

When I did finally jump into 40k, my tastes in playstyle had changed quiet a bit. My armies really do need melee for me to enjoy them (hence CSM, Primaris SM and GSC). Not to mention every time I kinda think of picking up a few Tau battlesuits, they go up in price which turns me off from the whole thing. I have a kill team work of Tau stuff which is good enough. I don't see me expanding on that anytime soon. Heck, I have Crisis Suits that I have never bothered finishing building back with the Start Collecting boxes were first introduced.

Imperial Guard tank company. for as much as I love tanks, I just could never actually make a fully functioning(IRL not tabletop) brigade without breaking the bank.

Funny thing is I love all of my Sororitas & Salamander Tanks; immolators, exorcists, preds, rhinos, impulsors, repulsors, etc and will continue to blow money on them.

It just would mean that if I started the Guard tank force, it would mean less $ spent on my 18th/Bloody Rose

Death Korps of Kreig is up there for sure. Just so expensive. If money were not a thing, a DKoK army would be the first thing I'd get.

So many flavors of Marines too. I went with Ultramarines for 30k because I had so many Marine models ultimately, and Emperor's Spears for 40k proper because of the ease of modeling and character fluff building. But Imperial Fists, White Scars, Black Templars, Astral Knights, Blood Ravens, Lamenters and Silver Skulls have all tempted me at one point or another.

Tau, if I could do mechanized and avoid suits as much as possible, but building a Tau Army without suits is like making a cup but removing the bottom.

Necrons...still tempt me as the ultimate "get off my lawn!" faction. Easy to paint too. Only trouble is space.

I started Thousand Sons, but sold off most of everything specific to them as I (still) don't like those chicken barbarians. I mean Tzaangors.

A Black Legion army, built from just about every version of Space Marine, Chaos Space Marine, and Cult Marine, as well as every model released that could possibly count as a Cultist (from GSC to Necromunda (new and old) to Blackstone Fortress to Rogue Trader...you get the picture). However, that's a lot to paint and, I'd feel guilty if I didn't put time and attention into every model to make all unique and distinct. However however, that's a lot of time and attention given to models that are purpose built to go splat within a few seconds of being placed on the table.

Mechanicus also tempted me, but I'm impressed that Mechanicus players don't go insane from having to paint all the little details on the models. I painted 5 models out of a squad for Kill Team, and that took me a whole month.

 Inquisitor Lord Katherine wrote:

I haven't picked up Tyranids because I just can't do another horde army.

Tyranids don't really have to go full horde mode. The imagery of the horde is super cool, but you don't really have to play them like that, Nidzilla and all. My Warrior army is the army I have the most fun with these days. Cost a pretty penny though.

Khahdron Overlords...and then convert them all into Squats!

Remember the forge fathers!!

Chaos Space Marines, specifically Emperor's Children.

However, the current Noise Marines are number two on my list of least favorite models so its not gonna happen until GW finally get around to making a new kit for them. I did ponder the idea of using horus heresy models (the whole they kept themselves pristine on the outside while being uttery degenerate and horribly mutated inside their armour thing but a quick total of how much I would need to spend to make this happen quickly nixed that idea good and proper)

Well If I could restart, I would definitly pick up dark angles, their terminators look just as good as GK ones, plus they have nice termintor characters. Their non termintor stuff on the other hand is sleak and looks very nice too.

I don't think I am ever going to play them though, as by the time I may have the money to build a 2250pts DA army, GW is probably going to phase out tacticals, terminators etc.

Genestealer Cult.

The model range is fantastic, and I've loved the concept of them since the days of black armoured limos, and big fat, Patriarchs.

Time and to some extent money are the issue...that and starting another Xenos army with mediocre rules would seem like masochism.

Any eldar faction, to me they’ve always looks really hard to paint, I don’t know if that’s true but if I did an eldar army I’d want to be able to make them look awesome. Probably I’d want to do harlequins

Death Korps &/or Elysian Drop Troops.
Love the models. But the price tag.....Ouch. To do almost exactly what I can with my existing IG....

And now days GW/FW has solved the Elysian question for me. One of these days I'll have to begin a DK force before they go the way of the Elysians I suppose.

For me it's Blood Angels and Daemons, not sure why, I keep almost pulling the trigger on one or the other and backing out at the last minute!

Necrons.

I don’t really have time to finish my current army let alone a new one. If I ever do start one though for 40k tho they are first on the first. Amazing aesthetic and lore.

Catachans.

Ugly models.

Black Templars.

Helsreach was one of my first 40k novels and I've always been a fan of Grimaldus and Helbrecht. It's really one of the chapters I like most, the constant crusades, pragmatic view on the world and disregard for impractical things like the codex astrates or reverence of machines. Sadly their rules never quite matched they way I wanted to play them. If Grimaldus and Helbrecht ever get Primaris miniatures, I might not be able to resist.

Imperial Guard - I've always had a love of tanks. Indeed my first wargame was Titan Legions and then Epic because both let you have LOADS of tanks on the table. And also walking city machine gods.

So in 40K that would be the guard with their tanks upon tanks including the many forgeworld variations which add even more cool tank designs. A full armoured core of tanks supported with troops and gun teams. A powerful gritty gunline of hard bitten warriors and nervous recruits backed up with the solid iron, steel and belching exhaust fumes of the armoured core.


I've not started because its a big commitment and a very expensive one with all the FW additions. Plus there's a functional limit on how many you can put on a 40K table at 2K points. So it would be a powerful collection that would mostly gather dust barring perhaps an apoc game once in a blue moon.



Tau - a mecha army full of mecha, even their warriors when fully armoured up, are pretty mecha in design. Robots with chain laser guns; hovering drones with blasters and tanks with massive shining railguns. Big stomping epic machines taht stride over the battlefield; throwdown support legs and then fire from huge cannon (yes that's the 3 barrel FW model). All backed up with loads of bright missiles zooming over the battlefield.
I was also very much keen when they started and the appeal wasn't just mechs (backed up with FW mechs) but also xenos, when GW was clearly testing the waters for using them as a creative catch all for loads of different xenos designs to appear in their allied forces.


Chaos - the blighted mutations of monstrous machines warped and twisted to serve the dark gods. Machines that are part animal; part madness and all destruction. From spiders that skitter on metal legs; to vast dragons on the wing above. Yes a chaos engine fuelled army with a massive focus on their armour; some terminators and other corrupted monsters thrown in for good measure. A vast hammer that bounds, runs, skuttles and roars into the enemy; spewing out bullets, hellfire and clawing with razor sharp iron and steel.


Sisters of Battle. A holy army of women dressed in the finest of power armour and marching to a holy war. Bringing the bolter and the flamer; thundering and roaring out death to those who would stand against the Imperium of Man and would seek to corrupt its citizens.
Oddly whilst I've always loved marines as a concept, I've never really wanted to build them as an army, I've just never liked enough of their models to want to do it. Sisters of Battle, especially the remade plastics, I would really love to build though. They've the same aesthetics but a different design that makes the difference for me. In many ways its the more outlandish, the stain glass flamer shield; the penetant engines etc...


Dark Eldar - sleek death. Blades everywhere even blades on the blades; elegant designs that dance into war; skipping over the ground on fast hover vehicles to deliver the knife blow with surgical precision. Monsters that are mutated and twisted flesh bound to chain and gun and blade that soar over the battlefield to bring violent death to their foes. There's cruelty, darkness and a twisted purpose; yet intelligence and grace with them not the sheer madness of chaos.




Um yeah that's all of them now isn't it? So I didn't put a no reason for most of those others; because its the same reason really. I don't have the time and money to devote to those armies. Perhaps one day I might as projects, but right now I don't. My plate is more than full and I'm not good with the whole "just buy a killteam" approach when there are too many things that I like within a force. So its all or nothing for me.

Well, to an extent that's pretty much every faction I don't currently collect... But the ones I've come closest to starting, but haven't, are probably Tau, Nids and Grey Knights.

Tau - basically as I was starting to think about it, my regular opponent bought himself an entire very well painted Tau army from ebay, and I didn't want to double up.

Grey Knights - I've always liked paladins in RPGs, and the low model count is appealing, but until recently their rules have just put me off. I feel like I served my time with a crap army playing CSMs through 6th-7th!

And Nids? Just can't be doing with that amount of painting!

Adepta Sororitas.

They've always been too expensive, in metal and monopose (I hate having identical models) so I as much as I loved the army they were never really a choice for me.

Now they are in plastic and with awesome kits that allow tons of kitbashing and customization. Exactly what I wanted! But the thing is I don't want to start a complete new army now, as I have other priorities financially speaking and I never consider investing money in armies that aren't at least worhty of 2500ish points.

In the future I'll probably get them, especially if GW releases a juicy start collection box. At the moment they're still in the wish list but I'm currently proxying them using SW models which are basically the same size and appearance, with Celestine as the only exception (I use the new Ghaz to proxy her!!)

Exodites.

I got as far as converting one dragon rider, 20 years ago. Then GW changed the design of Cold Ones, which the dragon was based on (copying Mike McVey's diorama), and that was the end of that.

If you had asked me a few months ago, it would have been Nids. A thematic foil to my Ultras, a completely different play style from my other armies, and the look awesome. The things holding me back were cost and having to paint a horde army. I got a small influx of cash, and contrast paints are a thing, so I’ve been growing a fun little hive for the last few months.

Chaos is another one. I played them in WHFB. Lots of fun modeling opportunities. But at the end of the day, they would be a spiky, slightly more CC version of what I have now. Didn’t really want to go to the effort for a lateral shift in gameplay. Still, whispers of Blood and Brass haunt my dreams sometimes.

I think Tau could be fun, but when I look at how I’d build a list, it would be very similar to my mechanized Eldar list. Again, not worth the cash or time for a slightly different spin on what I have now.

I could never justify the cost of a titan legion.

Actually I think the belief that i'd butcher the paint job put me off getting a warhound as much as the price did.

A.T. wrote:
I could never justify the cost of a titan legion.

Actually I think the belief that i'd butcher the paint job put me off getting a warhound as much as the price did.

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And you will be able to use multiple titans in every game not just the once a decade apoc super mega game

I've "started" pretty much all the ones I wanted to, I haven't gotten very FAR in starting some of them. I've got some Nid and Eldar models that haven't had anything done to them. I've been doing UM for more than 20-25 years. I did DW/RW together during about 5th? 6th?, but they've been gathering dust since which slowed down my forways into Nids and Eldar lest it happen to me again.

Tau.

I had a small army of them for a while, picked up at random second hand. Always wanted to make myself a Tau airforce from the Forgeworld stuff.

I went off 40k (and wargaming in general) for a few years, got back into it at the tail-end of 8th with my Orks, and they are more than enough of a painting project without me adding to my woes with an entire new army! one day, maybe; but not today.

Craftworld Eldar - specifically, Biel Tan. Years of Eldar being OP & the model range being horrifically dated has always kept me way. They need a major update on the scale of what Necrons have received

Man, so many people are saying GSC but muh prices but like. They're not that bad comparative to other factions.

All their most price-inefficient stuff is bundled together in the SC box for a nice discount. Buy a few of those, and you've got your Ridgerunners, you've got your neophytes and you've got your Acolytes all in one go plus a bonus character you can convert to be a Primus, a Kelermorph, and an Iconward easily. And by easily I mean, the acolyte kit comes with a Bonesword and many many autopistols right in the box. it's a REALLY REALLY easy conversion.

3x SC Boxes, 3x Goliath Trucks (super easy to magnetize so they can be Rockgrinders as well), 1x Jackal Alphus and that's close to an optimized army right there.

Sure its not space marines out of starter boxes level cheap but I'd bet it'd be cheaper than equal points of pretty much any other army buying individual kits.

the_scotsman wrote:
Man, so many people are saying GSC but muh prices but like. They're not that bad comparative to other factions.

In some ways the issue isn't always "but prices" its more "but prices ontop of all the other stuff I'm already buying and collecting"

the_scotsman wrote:
Man, so many people are saying GSC but muh prices but like. They're not that bad comparative to other factions.

All their most price-inefficient stuff is bundled together in the SC box for a nice discount. Buy a few of those, and you've got your Ridgerunners, you've got your neophytes and you've got your Acolytes all in one go plus a bonus character you can convert to be a Primus, a Kelermorph, and an Iconward easily. And by easily I mean, the acolyte kit comes with a Bonesword and many many autopistols right in the box. it's a REALLY REALLY easy conversion.

3x SC Boxes, 3x Goliath Trucks (super easy to magnetize so they can be Rockgrinders as well), 1x Jackal Alphus and that's close to an optimized army right there.

Sure its not space marines out of starter boxes level cheap but I'd bet it'd be cheaper than equal points of pretty much any other army buying individual kits.

Acolytes are far and away GSC's best Troop choice. £25 for 5 models isn't great and buying three of them bundled in the very new SC you're only getting fifteen of them when most lists want at least 20, most competitive even more. It was fine when you could still get Overkill splits floating around with like 20 of the buggers, but you're still paying 'elite unit prices' for a spammed unit. Sure you can fluff out the list with those Neophytes, but none's really doing that because it's ideal.

As Overread said though, it's not just prices. They're a horde army with extremely detailed models (detail on a HQ? Great. Loads of detail on 60+ guys? not so much), their playstyle is tricky and suffers more than any other 'dex at the hands of codex/edition creep since their playstyle is so wrapped up in manipulating mechanics and their lore is grim even by 40k Standards - Your Dudes are useful idiots who're probably going to get devoured haplessly if they do their job too well.

Ironically they're not that pricey to dip into if you're already a Guard player. An NPC Faction inside an NPC Faction!

Orks

What turns me out was because the boys look kinda old already and the amount of time required to have a horde army battle-ready. However, the main reason is space. I have no so much space left in my home to store in proper conditions another horde army.

 Overread wrote:
You can now

I own plenty of original titanicus models, and they didn't cost £400 for the first six models with no alternate weapons.

A.T. wrote:

 Overread wrote:
You can now

I own plenty of original titanicus models, and they didn't cost £400 for the first six models with no alternate weapons.

True, but things like warlords were more than half as small and even in metal weren't quite as detailed.

For me its three different marine chapters. This is no particular order.

1. Howling Griffons Space Marines

I really like the paint scheme of the chapter and I think they would look great on the tabletop.

2. Emperor's Hawks Space Marines

I like the fluff of the hawks using landspeeders and assault squads to confront the enemy up front in addition to the paint scheme.

3. Alpha Legion

Why not like Alpha Legion? The fluff is awesome and the paint scheme is even cooler.

 Arbitrator wrote:

the_scotsman wrote:
Man, so many people are saying GSC but muh prices but like. They're not that bad comparative to other factions.

All their most price-inefficient stuff is bundled together in the SC box for a nice discount. Buy a few of those, and you've got your Ridgerunners, you've got your neophytes and you've got your Acolytes all in one go plus a bonus character you can convert to be a Primus, a Kelermorph, and an Iconward easily. And by easily I mean, the acolyte kit comes with a Bonesword and many many autopistols right in the box. it's a REALLY REALLY easy conversion.

3x SC Boxes, 3x Goliath Trucks (super easy to magnetize so they can be Rockgrinders as well), 1x Jackal Alphus and that's close to an optimized army right there.

Sure its not space marines out of starter boxes level cheap but I'd bet it'd be cheaper than equal points of pretty much any other army buying individual kits.

Acolytes are far and away GSC's best Troop choice. £25 for 5 models isn't great and buying three of them bundled in the very new SC you're only getting fifteen of them when most lists want at least 20, most competitive even more. It was fine when you could still get Overkill splits floating around with like 20 of the buggers, but you're still paying 'elite unit prices' for a spammed unit. Sure you can fluff out the list with those Neophytes, but none's really doing that because it's ideal.

As Overread said though, it's not just prices. They're a horde army with extremely detailed models (detail on a HQ? Great. Loads of detail on 60+ guys? not so much), their playstyle is tricky and suffers more than any other 'dex at the hands of codex/edition creep since their playstyle is so wrapped up in manipulating mechanics and their lore is grim even by 40k Standards - Your Dudes are useful idiots who're probably going to get devoured haplessly if they do their job too well.

Ironically they're not that pricey to dip into if you're already a Guard player. An NPC Faction inside an NPC Faction!

Yep, Acolytes are fairly pricy. More realistically if you're creative it's actually 35$/25 britbux for 7, since you can quite easily kitbash the extra torsos with 3rd gen legs from the neophytes kits, which can get you up to a full squad of 20 but, mostly I've been running 15.

Acolyte spam is only one playstyle. The SC box favors mechanized neophytes+1 big acolyte bomb over acolyte spam.

Personally, I'd go for acolyte spam as deep strike/chaff clearing/scoring support for nidzilla allies, rather than making it my whole list.

Always wanted to build a Thousand Sons army, both for 40k and 30k.

For 40k, I'm not a fan of the ridiculous amount of detail the Rubrics have. Basic units already take me a while and they'd take so much longer to paint to a point where I am happy.

For 30k, I was avoiding them as they're a game system I'm not invested in and red metallics would be difficult to achieve for an army and not look awful. I even have Ahriman on paperclips ready for paint but lord knows that's a project I'll distract myself with.

My current main armies in 40K are Imperial Guard and Tyranids. I have also collected some Deathwatch to back up my Guard against the Tyranid menace and some Genestealer Cult to give my Tyranids some allies.

I’ve wanted some Grey Knights for some time, even if it’s just a Kill Team. The reason I haven’t got them is that I know at some point I would want something suitable for them to fight against. Then my plan for a Slaanesh themed Chaos army would come into play. Even including some Slaanesh themed Renegades & Heretics.

So for the sake of my wallet and space in my house I am abstaining from collecting a small Grey Knights force.

AdMech. I love the models, particularly the Kataphron guys, and really like most of the new stuff. I've even got several squads and a few HQ from various boxed sets in the pile of shame.

But they've always ended up being a bridesmaid rather than the bride. First I was going to put 1k of them with my 1k Imperial Guard tank army, as the current IG troopers are just too goofy for me to want to use. Then Chaos got relaunched and they have really been my "main" army since I got into this in 2E. I was looking at them again and Indomitus was released, and now I've got a pile of Necrons to turn into an army. Someday I will get around to them.

I like tau, but it's mainly the infantry and the alien auxiliaries i like. Now, I'm not at all worried about competitiveness, but I just feel like i can't paint tau up to how i would want them to look, and it's just so tough to even try to get ahold of kroot and such, I just haven't got around to it yet.

Dark mech Decimator maniple:

Basically the HQ is inexistend and the decimators too expensive with shoulderpads that are INFAMOUS for beeing bent out of shape, including the one i own.

I've always wanted to start Imperial Knights but haven't. The main reason being I still want to be able to show my face at the local club and find opponents.

This probably doesn't count because I actually had a 'nid army waaaaayyyyyy back in the day. It was 2nd ed. though, I only had it for a few years, and I don't know what happened to it.

I've looked at starting them fresh at least once in almost every edition. I came REALLY close to pulling the trigger recently, but the removal of Shrikes killed it for me. I know they weren't great, but I had this big theme in mind. Without them it doesn't work.

The other times I came close and stopped it was largely my hobby ADD. I couldn't land in a single cohesive paint job I liked. Every time I think about it, I get -this close- to a scheme I'm happy with but I'm never quite happy enough to do it. Still want to though!

In addition to my original post, I've been circling around picking up an AoS army for years. I feel the models are much better looking than most 40k, but literally no one in my group of friends or at the game store I go to plays AoS. I could go to another shop or try to convert some people, but everyone I know is too deep in 40k to start another GW game. I've heavily debated picking up demons since they're the same models for 40k and AoS, but have never liked their rules in 40k.

Up until about a month ago... I had always wanted to play Tau, but never started because I was already playing Guard and playing the 2 "shootiest" armies in the game seemed silly.

But then I bought some models for Kill Team. And then another person offered me a good deal, and then I had a Riptide at another great price... so yeah... Now I have about 2000 points of Tau picked up on the VERY cheap.


I would probably pick up Necrons, but I have a friend that has 20 000 or so points of them, so if I ever wanted to give them a go I could borrow his. I wouldn't mind having *one* Knight as a centre piece for my Guard Army, but they're expensive and I don't know if running one of them would really work in my Mixed Bag army.

IG. It's the infantry models that don't quite do it for me, Cadians are fairly ugly and plain, all of the cool ones are metal/resin with limited weapon options, limited model options generally... they just aren't well supported by GW. I'd love plastic Valhallans, Steel Legion or Tallarn to match the range Cadians have

As it is, orks appeal to me in the same ways IG do, but I prefer the models and they're both non Imperium and xenos

the_scotsman wrote:

 Arbitrator wrote:

the_scotsman wrote:
Man, so many people are saying GSC but muh prices but like. They're not that bad comparative to other factions.

All their most price-inefficient stuff is bundled together in the SC box for a nice discount. Buy a few of those, and you've got your Ridgerunners, you've got your neophytes and you've got your Acolytes all in one go plus a bonus character you can convert to be a Primus, a Kelermorph, and an Iconward easily. And by easily I mean, the acolyte kit comes with a Bonesword and many many autopistols right in the box. it's a REALLY REALLY easy conversion.

3x SC Boxes, 3x Goliath Trucks (super easy to magnetize so they can be Rockgrinders as well), 1x Jackal Alphus and that's close to an optimized army right there.

Sure its not space marines out of starter boxes level cheap but I'd bet it'd be cheaper than equal points of pretty much any other army buying individual kits.

Acolytes are far and away GSC's best Troop choice. £25 for 5 models isn't great and buying three of them bundled in the very new SC you're only getting fifteen of them when most lists want at least 20, most competitive even more. It was fine when you could still get Overkill splits floating around with like 20 of the buggers, but you're still paying 'elite unit prices' for a spammed unit. Sure you can fluff out the list with those Neophytes, but none's really doing that because it's ideal.

As Overread said though, it's not just prices. They're a horde army with extremely detailed models (detail on a HQ? Great. Loads of detail on 60+ guys? not so much), their playstyle is tricky and suffers more than any other 'dex at the hands of codex/edition creep since their playstyle is so wrapped up in manipulating mechanics and their lore is grim even by 40k Standards - Your Dudes are useful idiots who're probably going to get devoured haplessly if they do their job too well.

Ironically they're not that pricey to dip into if you're already a Guard player. An NPC Faction inside an NPC Faction!

Yep, Acolytes are fairly pricy. More realistically if you're creative it's actually 35$/25 britbux for 7, since you can quite easily kitbash the extra torsos with 3rd gen legs from the neophytes kits, which can get you up to a full squad of 20 but, mostly I've been running 15.

Acolyte spam is only one playstyle. The SC box favors mechanized neophytes+1 big acolyte bomb over acolyte spam.

Personally, I'd go for acolyte spam as deep strike/chaff clearing/scoring support for nidzilla allies, rather than making it my whole list.

I’m of the opinion that the scariest GSC list out there atm is one spamming both Neophytes and min size Acolyte units, in different detachments.

I definitely wouldn’t use Acolyte spam to support Nidzilla, chaff clearing is not a weakness for Nidzilla and they need as much T7-8 saturation as possible



Just on the topic of detail on the GSC baseline modes - Jesus Christ there is so much!! It REALLY takes a lot of work to get Neophytes and Acolyte looking good. It’s the number one thing stopping me from properly expanding my GSC force, enough for an allied detachment was where I decided to stop.

I always wanted to start Eldar, but those aspect warriors are just too old. I have a feeling like the entire line will start getting re-vamped soon. I feel like the same is true for Imperial Guard also.

Always wanted to start Necrons too. These new sculpts have definitely piqued my interest.

Eldar ilyandan (if that's how you spell it?)wraith host

I never started it because I feel like it'd be too much with my current collection. Maybe if I sold an army. But if I made this one it would be made with only wraiths and such it'd be very fluffy and focused army unlike my marines

Sisters of Battle in 3rd, and refused to as I detest pewter.

Exodite Eldar. Because they don't exist.

I have an Eldar army, but it's mostly inherited from a friend who gave it to me because he didn't want it anymore.

I'd love to put some time into making it a real army, but I don't want FineCost Aspects/characters. I am willing to wait until all Aspects are plastic.

As for an army I never started, well, really the only one I don't have is Sisters. So by default it's them. I mean, I don't have a Dark Eldar army, but I have a bunch of DE units that I bought specifically for the RPG, so it's a lot of infantry and zero vehicles.

I'd love to play AT or BFG, but the former is shockingly expensive to the point of being insulting, and the other no longer exists in the modern context (and I don't want giant metal models on pathetic flight stands).

Rak'gol
Pros: it'd be an epic modeling project
Cons: it'd be an epic modeling project

Overread wrote:

A.T. wrote:
I could never justify the cost of a titan legion.

Actually I think the belief that i'd butcher the paint job put me off getting a warhound as much as the price did.

You can now https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Boxed-Games?N=3281529261+3699755487&Nr=AND%28sku.siteId%3AGB_gw%2Cproduct.locale%3Aen_GB_gw%29&Nrs=collection%28%29%2Frecord%5Bproduct.startDate+<%3D+1600173960000+and+product.endDate+>%3D+1600173960000%5D

And you will be able to use multiple titans in every game not just the once a decade apoc super mega game

it's also their best game....ever

Zustiur wrote:
Exodite Eldar. Because they don't exist.

Seraphim have the range to convert some dope ones tho!

Always wanted to build a Thousand Sons army, both for 40k and 30k.

For 40k, I'm not a fan of the ridiculous amount of detail the Rubrics have. Basic units already take me a while and they'd take so much longer to paint to a point where I am happy.

For 40k - I bought 30 Rubrics, 10 Scarab Terminators, Ahriman, the Exalted Sorcerer kit and some other bits and bobs around December. They became my quarantine project. While I'm thrilled with how they came out (I used Turbo Dork for the metallics and it's amazing), I can honestly say I will NEVER paint another Tsons model. lol Too much fiddly detail. I feel they're my favorite "complete" army, and people seem to really like it. But yeah - seriously - I am more likely to jam a spork in my eye than I am to paint another Rubric or Scarab ... lol

30k World Eaters, because no one plays 30k here.

 l0k1 wrote:
Everyone name a faction that you've always wanted to build/paint/play but for some reason you've just never gotten around to it.

For me it's Blood Angels. They always looked great to me, but I've never picked them up. When first starting out, I didn't get them because a handful of people already played them(right after their 5th edition update). Ever since then when I looked at picking up a new army I always felt their rules, or the current edition, didn't favor them and didn't want to spend the money on something that was going to do poorly. This continues to this day, despite having 2 apocalypse sized armies, 2 kill teams, and 1 30k army.

Slaanesh Daemons, too degenerate and many Slaanesh Daemons have been overcosted in 8th ed 40k. I also feel like the range isn't quite chaotic enough, too many Daemonettes and Seekers and not enough pig/snake/swan/human hybrids. I have considered sculpting unique 3d models in Blender and then 3d printing an army that truly represents how chaotic I feel Daemons should be in 40k, but I don't have the sculpting skills or a 3d printer. Something for 2025 maybe.

Dark Eldar.

I love the look of the models.
I love the lore behind the faction.

I'm just terrified of how I would ever transport it without breaking most of the spines/spikes/arms each time. I don't even know how I'd store it!

Tycho wrote:

Always wanted to build a Thousand Sons army, both for 40k and 30k.

For 40k, I'm not a fan of the ridiculous amount of detail the Rubrics have. Basic units already take me a while and they'd take so much longer to paint to a point where I am happy.

For 40k - I bought 30 Rubrics, 10 Scarab Terminators, Ahriman, the Exalted Sorcerer kit and some other bits and bobs around December. They became my quarantine project. While I'm thrilled with how they came out (I used Turbo Dork for the metallics and it's amazing), I can honestly say I will NEVER paint another Tsons model. lol Too much fiddly detail. I feel they're my favorite "complete" army, and people seem to really like it. But yeah - seriously - I am more likely to jam a spork in my eye than I am to paint another Rubric or Scarab ... lol

I've painted Thousand Sons, and the secret is to undercoat them with gold. Saves so much time and heartache.

 kungfujon wrote:
Dark Eldar.

I love the look of the models.
I love the lore behind the faction.

I'm just terrified of how I would ever transport it without breaking most of the spines/spikes/arms each time. I don't even know how I'd store it!

I get you.

I had DE when ravager parts were metal. Between those and inevitable problems with flying stands, it's why I didn't keep up with army (or ever really get into Tau). Flying stands are the devil, and I won't do an army that requires lots of them. And these new stands, bafflingly, even worse, and more visible and uglier, which just doesn't make any sense.

Sisters would probably the faction I'd start next.

I'm going to wait though for some kind of Christmas Battlebox or something before I start though.

Voss wrote:

 kungfujon wrote:
Dark Eldar.

I love the look of the models.
I love the lore behind the faction.

I'm just terrified of how I would ever transport it without breaking most of the spines/spikes/arms each time. I don't even know how I'd store it!

I get you.

I had DE when ravager parts were metal. Between those and inevitable problems with flying stands, it's why I didn't keep up with army (or ever really get into Tau). Flying stands are the devil, and I won't do an army that requires lots of them. And these new stands, bafflingly, even worse, and more visible and uglier, which just doesn't make any sense.

Magnetized bases and steel trays for infantry. Bubble wrap and plastic bins for anything large. This solution is cost-effective, space-efficient, easy to pack/unpack, and most importantly, extremely versatile. I used to use battlefoam but it sucks when spindly parts get caught in the foam and it takes forever to pack/unpack fragile models. It's also a hideously inefficient use of space and custom foam is practically useless for transporting anything but the exact model it's shaped for.

Magnets are probably my favorite thing about modern 40k.

Tyranids, I was going to get them as my first but a friend already had a few and another that I was going to pull in called dibs. Now I don't because many of the models are over-priced and under-quality. Nid warriors have a place in my heart but could do for a rules and sculpt update. Carnifex model is nice and rules are a maybe if not too squishy.

Also the pyro/biovore models are in pretty bad need imo.

Deathwatch. When the box game with them and the Genestealer Cult came out, I actually split it with a friend who wanted the Genestealer Cult stuff (he used to play GSC way back in 2nd edition). I loved the models a lot and when they started to release more, I was very tempted. Nearly bought the set with them and the Harlequins because at the time I was also thinking about starting Harlies. Ultimately I decided I needed a new army like I needed a hole in my head and backed off. I still have the Kill Team Cassius guys from the Overkill set, and most of them have yet to be painted. I might yet start them at some point, but that is a decision for another time.

Admech - I just don't like the look of the basic skitarii. And I can't come up with any change that might help - headswaps or maybe a different base model, nothing really works.

 l0k1 wrote:
Everyone name a faction that you've always wanted to build/paint/play but for some reason you've just never gotten around to it.

I would really like to do a Word Bearers army but right now I dare not fork over the cash in case they get the Primaris scale treatment. I would want my army to all be the same scale.

Voss wrote:

 kungfujon wrote:
Dark Eldar.

I love the look of the models.
I love the lore behind the faction.

I'm just terrified of how I would ever transport it without breaking most of the spines/spikes/arms each time. I don't even know how I'd store it!

I get you.

I had DE when ravager parts were metal. Between those and inevitable problems with flying stands, it's why I didn't keep up with army (or ever really get into Tau). Flying stands are the devil, and I won't do an army that requires lots of them. And these new stands, bafflingly, even worse, and more visible and uglier, which just doesn't make any sense.

I recently got some flying stands by a company called "magnet baron" which were something like 3$/stand in the pack of whatever 8 or 10 they came in.

Fully disassemble-able, magnetic, and able to be tilted and posed dynamically. also, solid as a rock. every part of the model will break before this stand does.

I now consider them a 3$ tax Im happy to pay for each flying stand model I buy.

30K Mechanicum robots. Stunning models, that never got rules for 40K and I'm not into 30K.

I've always wanted to start Eldar, specifically Eldar that go hard on aspect warriors, but I just can't bring myself to deal with that much Finecast. If they ever get around to relaunching the range in plastic, it will take every ounce of willpower for me not to jump in.

Tyranids. i have most (honestly at least 500 point sof every other army)but while their fluff is amazing their rules have never fit to allow the type of army i want to see them as. honestly I think they need something like the marine doctrines where they can evolve to be more shooty, more melee etc. I want to love the Tyranids but I look at their codex every edition asking is this the time i jump in, and its never as appealing as it should be on the tabletop. Tyranids should be terrifying. they should have rules to change equipment as they fight. they should be suppressing psychers to the point that when an enemy psycher throws a power there is a good chance it fizzles.

Tyrant’s Legion

Because I didn’t think it would last, despite how much I would have loved playing it...

 G00fySmiley wrote:
Tyranids. i have most (honestly at least 500 point sof every other army)but while their fluff is amazing their rules have never fit to allow the type of army i want to see them as. honestly I think they need something like the marine doctrines where they can evolve to be more shooty, more melee etc. I want to love the Tyranids but I look at their codex every edition asking is this the time i jump in, and its never as appealing as it should be on the tabletop. Tyranids should be terrifying. they should have rules to change equipment as they fight. they should be suppressing psychers to the point that when an enemy psycher throws a power there is a good chance it fizzles.

Instinctive Behavior stops me every time.

 creeping-deth87 wrote:
I've always wanted to start Eldar, specifically Eldar that go hard on aspect warriors, but I just can't bring myself to deal with that much Finecast. If they ever get around to relaunching the range in plastic, it will take every ounce of willpower for me not to jump in.

If your willpower needs a hand, just check out their current rules. I don't think there's a single Aspect that is actually 'good', and very few that are 'playable'.

Dark Reapers are the best of the bunch. They're not good when you compare them to space marine equivalents, but they're the best Eldar have right now.

Banshees got the new model treatment, but nobody uses them because they're terrible. Even with the +1S power sword update, they're terrible. Nice models though.

Space Wolves.

I have a ton of marine models back to RT days, but my custom chapter has been done up as a sort-of Dark Angel/Grey Knight offshoot.

Starting another marine army, primarily to get Thunderwolf Calvary for the looks, seems like insanity.

An army I've recently become interested in... again... is Chaos Marines. I started 40k with Chaos Marines back in 2nd, but dropped them with 3rd (moved to Dark Eldar with the new release).

I always loved the Chaos Terminator models, especially the Reaper Autocannon. Young me thought they were the coolest. I also liked the Abbadon model, and the old metal "Dreadsock" dreadnoughts.

And wouldn't you konw it? Last week a local guy was selling an old, new-in-original-packaging Chaos Dread with the Power Scourge... so now I'm looking to pick up another... and if I can swing that I'll be building an "Abbadon's Chosen" style force of Dreads, Termies, and the big bad himself.

new or old abby?

New... I want the arms to stay on.

Though the old one was one of the minis that got me in, to be a "modern" force I'd likely get the new one.

 greatbigtree wrote:
New... I want the arms to stay on.

Though the old one was one of the minis that got me in, to be a "modern" force I'd likely get the new one.

I kinda can see where you come from, i started my journey with Huron blackheart.

Also the plastic abby is an amazing model, even if you intend to , modify it into a generic lord of any variety.
the price though, well that one is less, amazing

I'm what some people might call a vulture... picking over the discards of other people's hobbies.

I've picked up a 2000 point force of Tau for a song and a dance... and selling off some old SM stuff.

I'm patient. Just started that Tau force and while it should paint up quick, I've got time to wait for the sweet, decaying remains of other people's joy.


(PS: Huron Blackheart is another model that tempted back into the Chaos fold a few years ago. Must be something to do with the cool Lightning Claws on Chaos Marines that I really like.)

Eldar. I have wanted to play Eldar for almost fifteen years. The reason I do not is the models are about twenty five years old now.

I know GW wants me so badly to make a bland marine, or one of their special off shoots, I just find the ascetic and entire faction basic in the bad way.

I'm not that long into the hobby, but Admech and Orks was definitly there from the start. I really like the look of the Skitarii as well as the Ironstriders and admire all the great kitbashing work a lot of Orkplayers regularly perform and would love to once try my hand on that too.

Main reason "against" it is that I like Imperial Guard even more and am still in the process of collecting together all kinds of models, third party stuff and kitbashed projects for my Regiment and don't see me really investing into another line any time soon, at least not fully. Maybe I will add a smaller AdMech force as a sidekick for them, but I guess potential orks will have to wait some years, until the IG itch is thoroughly scratched.

I'm still pretty new to it, but just looking around.. Orks actually look like a lot of fun to paint and play haha, I might bring myself to doing one some day, but I just love my elves tooooooooo much! ♥ Only reason I'm against it right now is I want to actually get my armies bought up and fully painted, so wouldn't want to invest in another one haha

I kinda liked the look of Tau too but I've heard they're a very boring army to vs, and they just sit back all game, so that's probably why I won't end up getting one of those..

Sort of changing the thread - but my problem is never *starting* an army, its finishing them.

Hands up as a plastic addict, but I reckon I have at least a squad - and often more - of just about every faction in the game. Its just that over the years I've got through (or half through) say two units and an HQ, or a start collecting box, and then gone "nah".

Like right now I'm in mind to build up Guard (which has double purpose in acting as brood brothers for GSC)+Newcrons+Tau. But that's a huge amount of work, so I should really just concentrate on getting one such force up to a playable 2k points, while trying to avoid getting distracted by the latest shiny thing. Or some weird skew build that exists to try and mess with meta, but then never see tabletop.

But unfortunately that's boring. So I do keep getting distracted, and mostly end up just playing with my old DE, who I'd almost like to collect again, mainly because I'm a much better painter now than I was years ago.

I've discovered a way to build all the armies i always wanted to play by building them in epic scale at a fraction of the cost.

between vanguard miniatures, onslaught miniatures and trolls under the bridge (tolls.cz on ebay store) every army in the game is available including FW units.

In full scale the space marine force i have would cost around $5,000 compared to a couple hundred in epic(less if i had not bought 3 thunderhawks ).

Space Marines.

Mostly because they're so... boring/uniform. But they get all the new toys.

So I keep looking for an "out there" option that is playable, and would allow for fun / cool model conversions.

Considering Legion of the Damned atm, or samurai marines. Or outcasts.

I've always wanted to go for a full Khornate army. Waiting it out hoping they release Berzerkers in plastic, but loving the idea of mass Berzerker squads in Rhinos backed up by a Brass Scorpion, which is one of my most favourite models ever.

Eldar.

I have 4-5000 points of Eldar models... but nary a one painted. It's too imtimidating. They're *way* beyond my ability to paint.

This is a tough question for me because I'm terrible about buying and building stuff. I currently own Loyalist Marines, Mono-Slannesh, Custodes, and Tyranids, and outside of a three or four year hiatus after I sold all of my Warmachine stuff I haven't owned this few armies since I was 20. I think at the high-water mark I owned twelve armies.

Never done SoB. Those are some beautiful models right there.

Niiru wrote:
Space Marines.

Mostly because they're so... boring/uniform. But they get all the new toys.

So I keep looking for an "out there" option that is playable, and would allow for fun / cool model conversions.

Considering Legion of the Damned atm, or samurai marines. Or outcasts.

Don't know if it's the same for you but Minotaurs and Emperor's Spears were the chapters that got me on the marine train. The vibe is too cool and plenty of room for conversions and additions.

Night Lords; very cool models, just haven't got around to it yet, too many other projects.

I originally wanted 2-4 armies, started 40k with tau, then IG, then drukhari, orks; my IG expanded exponentially, got IK, then expand my IG with some inquisition, then DW, GSC, chaos renegades. This is on top of terrain and some WHFB armies(brets/DE) I intended to restart.

Chaos Space Marines.

I really like them a lot but can't decide which side of them I like most. On the one hand I like the not so chaotic legions like Iron Warriors and Nightlords, at the same time I love the religious fanatical Word Bearers.
Same thing with the Legions and Renegades: Love the well established Legions, but renegades like Red Corsairs, Brazen Beasts or the Scourged have something going for them, too.