I recently posted under a different topic, a what if scenario, like what if marines and CSM were "ate by nids" like squats....

Basically what I'm asking is, what would happen, in the future, would the eldar die off, would the necrons return to slumber?

If you had to pick, for the sake of fluff or for the sake of the actual game, what 5 armies would you like to see left in your view of the even more distant future?

My 5 are easy, Orks, Nids, IG, Traitor Guard, and Kroot

All of these races to me seem like roaches and able to survive anything hahaha.

Who would live in your eyes?

In the dark gothic future there is only war!!!

In the dark gothic future there is only war!!!

Yes, but who is destroyed and eliminated from this future?

Emo Guard. They're all sad 'cuz their Marines left them.

Emo Guard. They're all sad 'cuz their Marines left them.

And there will be no new marines, power armor does not look like their little sister's pants haha.

Orks will be around, same with some form of humans. Eldar are dead, Necrons might still be making a rucus. Tau I think are overextending and will colapse. Some new races will prob. be revealed though.

Orks. And the answer is really simple.

It will only be after the Marnies, CSM, Eldar, Tau, etc all kill each other off that the Orks will get their new codex!

It will only be after the Marnies, CSM, Eldar, Tau, etc all kill each other off that the Orks will get their new codex!

Summer 07?

besides that this should be in "fluff for nutters" I would say Orks. why you ask. well, it's simple. there are so many!
Hive fleet after hive fleet gets itself crushed on some Guard or Marine force, but Orks are so busy fighting, they don't even know they're multiplying. NOW THAT are survial skills

Lawyers, car salesmen, and politicians will be the survivors. So lets review:

Eldar: sneaky, manipulative, mercenary, always striving for their own personal end. Clearly the politicians of 40K. They'll be around for sure.

Necrons. aggressive, mysterious, but with the exception of the Loki impersonator utterly lacking in essential people skills. Can't be lawyers and aren't interested in cars that much. So they are clearly outtahere.

Orks. hot rod freaks. Would be at home in a biker bar. Good people all around. The car salesmen will need them to survive. They're in.

Tau: good politicians, but frankly looks like they believe their own PR. All signs point to extermination, stage left.

Tyranids. Eat lawyers and politicans for breakfast (literally). The eldar can't have that. I forsee a new aspect - Genestealer circus show trainer. Here doggie doggie. To keep all her brood from being lured away by eldar doggie treats and catnip, the norn queen will flee to a new galaxy (only to be eaten by a small dog).

Chaos: Tzeentch is the consummate used car salesman. it shall be revealed that, because the Thousand Sons had 2 W's each, they really did have a lot going for them. Only they and the Hello Kitty marines will survive, all others having a heart attack after seeing the chaos possessed minis.

Marines: as noted only the Hello Kitty marines make it out alive, and thats because they were all watching a chick flick when the great cataclism came (so many assault cannons, terminators, and drop pods were forged in one chapter that it imploded space and time creating a black hole that sucked in all MEQ's).

Guard: In the great twilight the guard join with those mysterious manipulators, the Pan Fo to lay waste to all before them. You didn't really think all those gazillions of guardsmen were wiped out in every minor skirmish did you? No, they were building, preparing...

Dark Eldar: well they're really pirates, which except for ninjas; lawyers; and Chuck Norris; survive all based on the rule of kewl.

besides that this should be in "fluff for nutters"

Sorry about that, I didn't know if it was general, or fluff so I went with the broad topic board...

Jfraz, best post ever... Maybe not ever, but it makes you appriciate the grim dark future is not too far off from modern day New Jersey.

Or Deer Park, Texas. We even have the occasional toxic gas cloud and emergency evacuation Hurray!.

That last post made me jump. Jfrazell - did you happen to bring a Black Templar codex to church (I think that's where it was) last winter?  Can't be too many people around Deer Park that play the game.

Assuming that no one's Doomsday device comes online (Ynnead and the Void Dragon being the big ones), I'd put the Orks up on top.  Eventually everyone that's planetbound is just going to get wiped out.  The Necrons are much weaker than they were, and the Orks are much more numerous than they were.  The Tyranids might do fairly well for themselves, but eventually they'll hit the really big Orks on the other side of the galaxy.  Those Orks would then realize that the inner planets aren't as wimpy as they'd thought, and a massive Waaagh would launch itself across the galaxy, repopulating every planet the Tyranids had attacked and slaughtering the last of man- and Tau-kind.  In the face of all this, the Eldar would call it quits and either leave the Milky Way or retreat into the Webway.  The Dark Eldar will still be sitting pretty, since they could care less what happens to the galaxy outside.

Of course the Tyranids they will eat all. And after eating mankind the chaos gods die because there are no emotions they could consit off. The Necrons will fall in the attempt to fight the super space ork elf human assault canon morphing suitstealers.

Other side.  Hockley (waller). 

Besides wife would be displeased if I brought a codex to church. Displeased wife equals Bad Day at Black Rock.

 

jfrazell that car salesmen post cracked me up. Best post ever, (in this forum anyway).

Tau believing their own PR, haha.

Who'll be left? Nids win, necrons sleep (and nids dont attack themin some fluff). everyone else is dead or in the webway.

How lame is that universe.

Chaos would survive. If anybody has heard of the chaos theory, that eventually evrything goes full circle and chaos ensues.

I'm still banking that Cypher reaches Terra and kills the Emporer.... the Emporer becomes a new Chaos god and creates his own Daemon Princes.... and the Emporer and the Imperium rule the galaxy. It's gonna happen...

Oh, and the kroot and nids are going to die off from HIV, sorry blank

Beef, I think you need to read up on Chaos Theory. It has nothing to do with a cycle returning full circle (as in Ouroboros) or a system resulting in complete chaos.
Mathematically Chaotic systems are deterministic yet near-infinitely complex, as opposed to the SciFi/Fantasy idea of Chaos being completely random and unpredictable.

Angron, I agree with you about Cypher and the God-Emperor, although I don't think he will become an actual Chaos god, but rather something different. Chaos gods didn't start of as humans after all.


The idea of 'nids dying off from a human disease is laughable. If it even effected them at all, they would simply adapt to it, absorb it into their gene pool, and learn to use it to their advantage.

In the end, the 'nids and orks, due to constant fighting once everyone else is dead, will probably have merged into one race and moved on from this galaxy, as there is no food left, leaving the remaining Necrons behind and asleep in their tombs, awaiting for a repopulation that will probably never come as there is no biomass left within millions of lightyears due to the 'nids sweeping through space.

Why do you assume the Nids would adapt to diseases? Mayhaps diseases are something utterly (pardon the pun) alien to them. Mayhaps even as we speak (40M years into the future anyway) the common cold is going through the hive fleets like CENSORED through a goose...

Or maybe the Norn Queens will all be tamed by the Tau, and everyone will sing Koombaya for the Greater Good. Then the last remaining Grot, with a stick with a nail in it, will wield ultimate power bauahahhaahhahahahahah (apologies to the Simpsons).

A disease is no different from any other piece of biomass. Sure its smaller, but 'nids need appetizers too.

Here's the problem though.... nids are not the borg! Disease has the same effect on them as it does for everyone else. Anyone seen what a great unclean one can do to a swarm of gaunts in CC with Nurgles rot? There's a book.... I think it's the Space Wolf Trilogy... I don't know.... where the nid fleet becomes infected with a disease and starts producing diseased hive tyrants which are smaller, weaker, and die faster. Also, HIV has no advantage..... except if you count the lowering of your immune system an advantage.... which would make them more susceptable to new diseases..... that's what they get for not cooking their meat....

Posted By blue loki on 07/07/2006 10:35 AM
A disease is no different from any other piece of biomass. Sure its smaller, but 'nids need appetizers too.

 

Argh! First post eaten by the Hive mind!

to restate:  All that water being siphoned and recirculated, all that "biomass" being digested, is rife with the wee little buggers.  Unless the Nids encountered it before they have no ability to deal with it. The bugs pass throughout the hive fleet, and faaster than you can say e coli Hive Fleet Attitude is down for the count.

Yep, such Slaanesh like irony.  The greatest threat to the Imeprium, felled by a yeast infection

 

 

of course 'Nids can be beaten by a cold.
remember the classical War of the Worlds?

No no, War of the Worlds was Martians.

You know, Tech-adepts? Machine-cult? All that artificial limb grafting has left them with a lot of open sores.

The Machine God will fall to acute nasopharyngitis. Mark my words, you have been warned.

I think Tyrnids would be the natural final army left as they are entropy personified, and entropy always wins in the end.

I think Jervais Johnson would be the last man standing

Posted By blue loki on 07/07/2006 10:35 AM
A disease is no different from any other piece of biomass. Sure its smaller, but 'nids need appetizers too.

A virus is different to other biomass. It has its own agenda and the genetic payload to pursue it. It works by getting consumed by its target organism. The Nids might be highly vulnerable to a tailored virus.

The problem becomes that the Tyranids originate from outside the galaxy. Do they even work in the same fashion, biologically? It would require a complete genome mapping, something that the Imperium would be hard-pressed to do in its current superstitious state.

I would like to see Gaurd armies with a cold sneezing at the Nids which would probably do more damage then pointing there flash lights at them

don't underestimate lasguns. it's really anoying when you get them in the eye

The 'nids have repeatedly shown themselves to be near immune to anything short of the most ridiculously manufactured deseases that nurgle or the Magos biologos can design. Kraken was destroyed by a Magos Biologos desease, however, when Leviathan rolled in it was completely immune to the desease. Tyrannids are the ultimate in evolution spank, and they actively control their genetics in order to adapt to damn near everything. The only way to kill them is work around this adaptation by hitting them en masse with something they haven't seen before (and you need to infect billions of organisms in a very short time [hours] to do so) or to just use the only thing you can't just adapt to, good old fashion mass firepower.

yeah they tend to scratch. Its that annoying feeling when you get a piece of dirt stuck in your eye

The 'nids have repeatedly shown themselves to be near immune to anything short of the most ridiculously manufactured deseases that nurgle or the Magos biologos can design. Kraken was destroyed by a Magos Biologos desease, however, when Leviathan rolled in it was completely immune to the desease. Tyrannids are the ultimate in evolution spank, and they actively control their genetics in order to adapt to damn near everything. The only way to kill them is work around this adaptation by hitting them en masse with something they haven't seen before (and you need to infect billions of organisms in a very short time [hours] to do so) or to just use the only thing you can't just adapt to, good old fashion mass firepower.

HIV..... you fill a world full of people with HIV infront of the hive fleets path.... world gets eaten in a matter of minutes, entire hive becomes infected.... entire hive can no longer adapt to fight viruses and diseases... nids die.

Yes I shined a $2 laser pointer, er lasgun in my eye once. It  was very annoying.

And I agree.  Jervis Johnson would be the last man standing. I would have  found a nice comfy sofa by then

 

I present to you Chaos Theory in simple terms

Chaos theory: The theory that something can never repeat without the first outcome affecting the repetition.

As regards to giving the nids a bioengineered dose of herpes, any virus still has a base genetic code, thats what the tyranids assimilate, airgo if you did dose them then that particular fleet would take damage, a few years later another would come back toting a surpremely advanced version of super herpes and use it against the imperium. But then its not like the imperium havent stalled the nids before only to regret it at a later date, the ingenious Inquisitor Kryptman managing to get the only two species in the galaxy that actually THRIVED in a warzone to fight each other, they got a couple of decades and even nastier nids and orks... and thats their idea of a grand plan.....

In the grim darkness of the future, hummanity is really really dumb.

I think Nids and Orks will survive in one way or the other, and with orks being connected to the warp (However tenuously) the chaos gods would still exist.

ALL turns to dust. Then we have the sqauts come out of hiding and take over the galaxy after everybody else is dead.

Eldar would survive, because they can run and hide <?

Ork's would survive because there are just so many and they keep coming back.

Chaos would survive because they can always find someone to corupt...

Necrons would survive because there cheap...

Nids would Survive because in my opinion there like a mix between Ork?s and Necrons...

 

That's my view(P.S. Space Wolves would survive because the Fang is impenitreble!)

 

eventually Logan Grimnar will climb on top of the Fang and shout to Pertuboro that he will never blow up his unblowable spacetooth-thingy. and then he will come and blow it up

Posted By Anung Un Rama on 07/18/2006 2:27 PM
eventually Logan Grimnar will climb on top of the Fang and shout to Pertuboro that he will never blow up his unblowable spacetooth-thingy. and then he will come and blow it up

the fang is inpenetrable as the Squats have been mining there for the metal for the space wolves.

I reckon that Nids are not all they are cracked up to be. There is a strategy that would work on them no problem as long as you don't mind losing a few worlds.
Plus, they are outclassed in spaceship battles.
Orks all the way baby.
And all this HIV/Nids stuff is bollox- HIV infects mammals. Tyranids aren't even from this galaxy.

I got $5 on Mr. Rogers (in a blood stained sweater).



YES I know he is currently dead in reality. That means YOU didn't get the f***ing joke!!!

Is it the Ultimate Showdown of Ultimate Destiny though, really?

*sigh* Yes. It is.

I'm thinking about the farther future in regards to this question. Not two or three editions of the game in the future, but the future as it might "naturabley" progress. IMHO i'd say Orks, Nids and Necrons. Orks reproduce like rabbits on crack and speed. And the way they reproduce "spores" mean they're almost impossible to erradicate, even the Nids would be hard pressed. Nids will still exist because of their infinite adaptability. True one hive fleet could be taken by a disease/virus if masterfully created. The problem is that most hives are nothing alike genetically and that is the Nid strength, their supreme adaptability. Combined with the fact that every planet they visit in uninhabitable to everything but Crons leaves them in the lead. Crons would survive baecause they hibernate and their planets would be mostly avoided by the hive fleets for lack of biomatter.

"Bears are more civilized. A bear wakes up and says *fudge*, its too damn cold outside, I'm going back to bed!"

Posted By Da Boss on 01/29/2007 9:32 AM
I reckon that Nids are not all they are cracked up to be. There is a strategy that would work on them no problem as long as you don't mind losing a few worlds.
Plus, they are outclassed in spaceship battles.
Orks all the way baby.
And all this HIV/Nids stuff is bollox- HIV infects mammals. Tyranids aren't even from this galaxy.

Hey man. A few? Considering the imperium was unwilling to continue the fire break just to stop one solid hive fleet, how would they deal with another Kraken? They are outclassed in space but they can rebuild without the need for any central base of operations. They can eat a few out of the way argi worlds and calve new hive ships. In a capital ship war of attrition the nids will win.

Orks would be fun and doubtless result in some major fireworks. Biggest complication would be continual ork re-infestation of worlds being eaten by the fleet. Eating that much ork (and squiggoth ) dna doubtless make the fex one interesting beast.

The biggest deciding factor would be just how many nids are heading this way. The nids are the only race receiving significant reinforcements from outside the galaxy. If the nid codex was an indication of where GW are going with the fluff then there could easily be fleets of nids heading here after chomping there way through at least one other galaxy. But as you always say every codex builds up that army as the ultimate enemy/protector of the imperium...

Top five survivors:

5. Space Slann (a.k.a. Slann in Space)
4. Chaos Squats (a.k.a. Short Space Marines)
3. Zoats (a.k.a. The Guys Who Are Uglier Than Fimir)
2. Rogue Traders (a.k.a. Warhammer 40K 1st Edition)
1. Ordo Xenos (How can they die if they haven't even been born yet?)

Posted By Pariah Press on 02/14/2007 7:40 PM
Top five survivors:

5. Space Slann (a.k.a. Slann in Space)
4. Chaos Squats (a.k.a. Short Space Marines)
3. Zoats (a.k.a. The Guys Who Are Uglier Than Fimir)
2. Rogue Traders (a.k.a. Warhammer 40K 1st Edition)
1. Ordo Xenos (How can they die if they haven't even been born yet?)

You forget the Sensei.

They never made miniatures for them. Plus, the Inquisition wiped them out; didn't you hear?

Keith Richards will be left at the end...he cannot be killed by conventional means.

Posted By Angron on 07/07/2006 1:25 AM
Oh, and the kroot and nids are going to die off from HIV, sorry blank

Ya know trying to infect 'nids with HIV sounds about as logical as releasing every necrophiliac from the insane asylums when the zombie outbreak happens.  Sure they keep the zombies busy for awhile... but eventually you just have alotta brain eaters with a hard on coming after you. 

I really think you doubt humanity a little too much.  Sure the major civilized worlds will crumble and lose population.... but think of all the backwater planets out there.  C'mon anyone who had ever been snowed in/ trapped/drunk/bored and lone with a member of the opposite sex knows how the time gets passed.  Do not doubt the unending power of the human drive to survive and reproduce.  Eventually there will be enough flashlig... I mean Lasguns to outshine the sun!  And then woe to all the toothy things that go bump in the night!

And also I kinda think of the emperor the way Dennis Leary talks about John Wayne... he ain't dead he's frozen, and when he thaws and wakes up he is gonna be pretty pissed off.  And will take the enemies of man down hard!
Aztralwolf

After thinkin' this over, I will put in my vote on the Necrons.
Why?
When dwindled to %25 of their forces, they disappear. Bits and all. Where do they go? To the repair shoppe! And for all anyone else knows, that shop could be in another universe or plane of reality. They loose a match, retreat, apply some ducktape and BAM back in the fight. No need for reproducing or resources. Just kill til you die, and then you respawn.
Again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again-*SMACK*
(Shut. The fsck. Up.)

This is seriously a laugh out load funny thread, i loved Beef's idea the best, that the squats would suddenly come out of hidding when everyone else was dead and take over. Oompa Loompas rule the galaxy with an iron fist!

But seriosuly,

The Orks would take it for the win.

Why?

So long as they are fighting, they are happy, and a happy race is a succesful race.

They will eventually, in their Orky way, come up with a way to beat all the other races and eventually wipe them out, then they will pile onto giant Roks and fly those bad boys into other galaxies untill the universe is full of fightin, shootin, stompin and smashin.

In the grim darkness of the really far future there is only war, fast, loud cars and rock n roll. And bg guns. And beer. Lots of beer.

Eldar, Hey they have made it this far....Just send some of them through multiple warp gates to disapear and than show up again after a few generations of repopulation. They can go live with the "feral" eldar or the exodites or the harlequin, Hidden away in the webways and just show up again and again and umm well you know. Id have to go study in the black library if this happened. Just lock me in there with a hot eldar women,plenty of food and beer and ill be a super genius, psycher,demonologist, inquisitor with a mountain dew high and lots of tall kids running around...

in my opinion, the Imperial navy (star wars) would come out of nowhere, kick some ass, than get killed by a ork fighta ramming the command bridge

Necrons...They've got a C'tan on mars and some of the background material hints that it'll awake soon.

The Necrons are set to harvest the galaxy, and even the nids stay clear of them. Again, referring to the codex. The Orks would make a sizable dent in their numbers, but would get harvested nonetheless, there are too few eldar and tau.

The space marines and imperial guard allying would be the only hope.

humans will still survive, they breed like rabbits

Zombie Thread! Zombie Thread!

No matter who survives Chuck Norris will be there in the end as he was in the beginning.

You're all wrong. In the end everything dies... except this thread.

snorkle wrote:No matter who survives Chuck Norris will be there in the end as he was in the beginning.

Except it has been proven that in the time before time Vin Diesel gave birth to Chuck Norris; and what he created he alone has the power to destroy.

- Salvage

your all wrong when chuck norris , Mr T, and Vin Desel have a child it well be the new choas god and choas well be the last one standing

Who would live in your eyes?

Most of GW races have 'endgame' fluff, meaning some possible future that may or may not happen, that makes them beat everyone else and stand as the dominant race for all eternity. Basically everyone are stuck in constant warfare untill one of the following happens:

Imperium: The Emperor is reborn to the galaxy. He unites humanity once again, finishes his task of making all of humankind atheists and once there is noone to worship and remember the Chaos gods, they die. Many loyal Primarchs return to their sons like the legends of old. The Emperor leads his mighty Space Marine Legions from the front and defeats the Xenos scum.

Chaos: Abaddon's final Black Crusade defeats Imperial Battlefleets and destroys the Craftworld Ulthwé. Abaddon makes to Planet Earth and rips the Emperor's remains from the Golden Throne. Mechanicum of Mars swear fealty to Chaos, and a highly religious Empire of Chaos is born. The galaxy becomes a miserable place, most planets being grim visages of hell on earth. The Eye of Terror expands to massive proportions. The strong rule over the weak in totalitarian fashion, and most humans exist only as slaves to entertain the thirsting gods.

Tyranids: A Hive Fleet so huge noone ever thought possible enters the galaxy, and devours all life. Puny Eldar and Tau are swept aside like children's toys, and the mighty Imperium falls down to ruin. Abaddon's Sorcerers unleash armies of demons to march against the Tyranids, but to no avail. Against the endless swarm there can be no victory.

Necrons: Nightbringer is fully powered up and his plans for the Pariahs come to fruition. More C'tans are awoken. The Red Harvest is over, and the cleansing begins. All living things are destroyed.

Orks: The Last Waaagh emerges from Ork space and engulfs the whole galaxy. Imperium is defeated time and time again and soon humankind loses all central leadership and the pockets of resistance cannot endure. The Old Ones' imperfect race Orks stand as the dominant species in our galaxy, and defeat all Tyranid invasions easily.

Eldar: The melancholic thoughts of all the Eldar dead inside the infinity circuit echo in the warp, and Eldrad Ulthran's prophecy comes true. The energy in warp space reaches critical mass and Ynnead, the Eldar God of the Dead is born to the universe. Ynnead destroys Slaanesh and releases the Eldar from their doom. Eldar multiply and with renewed vigour claim the universe as their playground.

@Therion, what you wrote about Chaos is so beautiful, I hope they win.

Darrian

lol I knew it was a matter of time (as I read through the thread) that someone was going to say something about Chuck Norris, its inevitable. Chuck Norris will round house kick everyone in the face and then and only then, Chaos will become the cousins no one likes because they get into too much trouble, Orks will become the lawn care men, trimming Chuck's roses, Nids will be the bugs that infest his castle, Necrons will be his toys he plays with when he feels like a kid again, Eldar will be the metro-sexual people down the street Chuck just cant stand, and the Tau will be dead cause Chuck just couldnt get over the fact that they are fish-goat aliens, and they just freaked him out. Now as for the Empire...they will just be Chuck's friends, because Chuck is a human, and the Empire likes humans..but they will secretly hate him cause he has aliens working for him...but we all know the Empire is scared of Chuck anyway...

I just don't get tired of posting this picture

And I just don't get tired of laughing every time I see this picture. Do you know who created it? He is a genius.

Darrian

hey hey hey now...I didnt resurrect this thread, I saw it in like the top 6 most recent, and I posted...

Angron wrote:I'm still banking that Cypher reaches Terra and kills the Emporer.... the Emporer becomes a new Chaos god and creates his own Daemon Princes.... and the Emporer and the Imperium rule the galaxy. It's gonna happen...

Wow, wait, what?! StarChild=Chaos God?! Didn't really think of it THAT way. He dosen't feed off on base emotions though....He feeds off of worship and adoration! The chaos gods each worship off some form of base emotion or raw "thing"...

Khorne- Hate, anger
Nurgle- Disiease, sickness
Slannesh- Lust, pleasure
Tzeenich-....The disire to be better? I have no clue!

Simple.

The ancient Cockroach army.

Marbi Chora wrote:
Tzeenich-....The disire to be better? I have no clue!

Jealousy?

Pariah Press wrote: They never made miniatures for them(sensei). Plus, the Inquisition wiped them out; didn't you hear?

I thought that they just killed a bunch, so the remainders are roving the galaxy, avoiding the imperium.

Isn't that the excuse for the Eldar?

"Oh, a few pockets survive here and there."

Asmodai wrote:

Marbi Chora wrote:
Tzeenich-....The disire to be better? I have no clue!

Jealousy?

No no, it's scheming and knowledge. Tzeentch is the Chaos God of intelligence and common sense in a universe where such things have no place.

The 'Nids. Assimilation.
The Orks. Reproduction.
The Necrons. Regeneration.
The deamons of the warp, or at least, poppa Nurgul's favorites.

And Humans. Adaptation and will.



And I say humans, standing on the "Nurgul's favorite parasite" theory.

Ork. so damn many of them. Terra sent out a probe 14,000 years ago to find end of the universe, and its STILL getting ork signals.

Eldar: Dead. They're going to sulk in their craftworlds, listen to The Smiths, and never reproduce. I know this vicious circle intimately from my high school experience.

Chaos: Dead. Their soldiers will rot, chase skimmer tanks off cliffs, get holes in their armor through which their granular bodies spill out, kill themselves through auto-erotic asphyxiation, or die fighting each other over which one out of ten gets to carry the lascannon. I'm surprised these spiky, overgrown lemurs ever make it out of the Eye.

Dark Eldar: Dirtnap. Limited in number, will eventually cut themselves with all those spikes on their clothes, guns, and flying boats. And, as we all know, their armor only saves them against even the mildest injury one time out of three.

Tau: Buying the farm-world as we speak. Why? The status quo never survives through the end in anime. The overfiend destroys your city, the ziggurat collapses, Tetsuo and Akira do something or other that no one understands but the city's toast. It doesn't matter how enormous your guns are, only the handsome vampire hunter or the motorcycle badass make it out alive.

Necrons: Pushing up daisies. Why? They're not in for the long haul. You say they hibernate? Pfft. I think they find the endless grind of stagger, get shot, and get back up nearly as soporific as their opponents do. I don't care how improbably powerful these "ancient" star-gods from 2002 are or how often they claim to have had a hand in everything from the big bang through the sistine chapel and up to and including Posh & Becks' move from occasional page 6 European curio to constant irritation whenever I try to make a paparrazzi-free commute up Benedict Canyon, nobody's powerful enough to keep 100 million narcoleptic robots awake and battle-ready.

Tyranids: It starts with D and rhymes with 'red.' Their chitinous little tummies are just about out of juice. Let me give you a dramatic re-enactment of their inception/doom. [norn queens in their boardroom] "I know how we're going to conquer the galaxy in the most efficient manner! We'll spawn a billion little six-legged monsters, eat everything on a planet, then eat the little dudes who ate the planet, then--and here's the kicker--we spawn a whole new generation of little dudes! If my math is right, we'll have the energy to conquer...[taps on calculator]...0.051 planets? Wait, let me look over my notes again..."

Humanity: The only possible winners. They are willing to sacrifice their souls, sever all ties, and lose all that they have for their blind, quasi-religious obsession--modeling and painting tiny 30mm figures. As long as this slavish devotion continues, it is they who will survive, forsooth, it is they who shall rule! AVE IMPERATOR!

Now somebody post the thread necromancer card again. Makes me laugh.

Oops. Meant to edit, just reposted instead.

Well, even though I'm a huge Space Marine fan, I think the Empire will fail, unless the Emperor returns, due to corruption. So that gets rid of the Imperial Guard and the Marines...

The Eldar and Dark Eldar will die out, they are nearing their end anyway.

The Chaos Gods will lose power from the lack of deaths and emotions in the universe from the loss of the previous armies And Chaos will begin to fade

Necrons will come and kill the upstart Tau and whatever is left of Chaos...

Tyranids will destroy the Orks. All that biomass in the trillions of Orks means massive new hive fleets.

And finally it will come down to Necrons versus the Tyranids. The Tyranids cannot assimilate the Necron due to their metal bodies so the Necrons will eventually win out. They will then return to millenia of hibernation until life begins anew in the universe. And begin again....


However if the Emperor recovers, none shall stand before his glory!!!!!!!

No one's mentioned Bruce Campbell?!?

Dead Horse wrote:
Tau: Buying the farm-world as we speak. Why? The status quo never survives through the end in anime. The overfiend destroys your city, the ziggurat collapses, Tetsuo and Akira do something or other that no one understands but the city's toast. It doesn't matter how enormous your guns are, only the handsome vampire hunter or the motorcycle badass make it out alive.

TETSUUUOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
KANEDDDDAAAAAAAAA!!!!

orks eldar space marines chaos marines and tau

Imperium, more specifically the SM legions with the kahonaes to buck that pansy Guiliman's codex (I loathe the Ultramarines with a passion, the only reason those weaklings are looked upon so highly is that they dodged the bullet several times in the Horus Heresy, not at the drop pod massacre, not at the seige of terra, not in any of the other massive engagements that thrashed every other legion; they just lucked out), why, either the Emperor will come back, or something like this happens. They drop the heavy end of the hammer on the Ifinity circuit shooting Eldrads prophecy to sh!t and deafeat the Eldar and Dark Eldar by attrition, probably the same with the bulk of chaos, who will be whittled down to the nuisance position currently held by the Dark Eldar. The tau would then face the same hammer the Eldar faced and would be just a squashed. Probably not nearly as many hive fleets as expected (going off the fluff from other universes extra-galactic travel is hell on any vessel (think Yuzzhan Vong invasion in Star Wars the worldships, especially the bigger older ones were torn to sh!t))
Necrons and Orks would be reduced but mostly still around only receiving a weak "sloppy seconds" type showing from the Imperium due to the fact that you cant really wipe either out, only keep it away from yourself. So the bored Orks just perpoetually fight themselves out on the edges of the galaxy, and the necrons feed on them after being pushed out of Imperium space.

i say someone will figure out the secret formula of Meow Mix, then will feed it to kittens, creating an army of super mutant kittens with heat vision


yes, i do like to resurrect old threads

imperium in some form
the necrons cuz they cant be killed
orks theres so many of them
nids
tau but probly on there own version of craftworlds (there current planets were eaten by nids)

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Orks rule, everyone else drools

Gazzdag wrote:Orks rule, everyone else drools

I should tell your opinion Logan grimnar,he'll explain who drools

Orks are left, of course. And some kinds of humans will always warsip chaos, especially if thinkgs are going that bad. Maybe some 'nids would still be hanging around, but they're from a diffrent universe, so who knows how many are left. and the tau are to busy texting the necrons to be bothered with anything else

Klotz wrote:Orks are left, of course. And some kinds of humans will always worship chaos, especially if things are going that bad. Maybe some 'nids would still be hanging around, but they're from a diffrent universe, so who knows how many are left.

Our faith in the holiest of emporers is unmovable!
Orks are also right,not only left.

and the tau are to busy texting the necrons to be bothered with anything else

Heres my philosophy what gonna happen:

Chaos Space Marines: stay the same
Imperium: Get totally blown to hell and then evryone laughs at them.
Dark Eldar: Who cares
Eldar: Be wierd
Necrons: I dont know
Orks:Run around ensuing chaos
Tau: New imperium
Tyranids: Slowly kill everyone else cause they rock

its obvious, the eldar, tau, and orks would all be left

reasons:

orks: thrive on war

tau and eldar: know to let the other races shoot themselves while they just take the occasional planet that has fallen outside of the other races influence

Necrons and Tyrinids

Chaos Marines: Mutate and degenerate into demons.
Eldar: Breed less and less, genetic diversity becomes too low. They die off or exist in genetically bankrupt cells.
Space Marines: Defeated by Orcs/Hive Fleet/Chaos
Tyranids: Gene altering virus forged by Tau take them out.
Orks: Gene altering virus forged by Tau turn all orks into stupid weak children rendering them defeated pygmies.
Imperial Guard: Fall with the Space Marines
Dark Eldar: Suffer the same fate as Eldar.
Necrons: Creep around, striking occasionally.
Demons: Creep around, striking from the warp.

Tau: Kind of rule the galaxy, but not very effectively. have a lot of Necrons and Demons to deal with.


So what I'm saying is, Necrons, Demons and Tau. That is what it comes down to.

Speaking of Necros...

Blank wrote:Jfraz, best post ever... Maybe not ever, but it makes you appriciate the grim dark future is not too far off from modern day New Jersey.

Haha exactly Corzine is probably sectretly laughing at us and going to turn us into a mini 40k universe.

Chaos Daemons, Imperial Guard, Eldar, Tau, and Orks would survive.

Daemons because it is literally impossible to get rid of them without destroying all sentient life everywhere.

IG because face it, humanity is too large and powerful to fully take down.

Craftworld Eldar will all die, but Exodites and Dark Eldar and whatnot can survive, if in a limited manner.

Tau are too small to care about and too Powerful to destroy.

Orks are Orks.

Typeline wrote:
Tyranids: Gene altering virus forged by Tau take them out.

After thinking about it a little bit I think instead of the Tau getting rid of the Tyranids they'd probably harness some of the abilities Tyranids have that the Tau culture favor. And maybe they could make some concessions culturally to make up for their weak points.

I think one strain of the hive fleet the Tau may favor and take control over is the carnifex. They could have artificial spawning pits that would emulate the conditions that are necessary to spawn a Carnifex. They would they implant controls in the carnifex's brain to make it more docile when not in combat and more controllable on the battlefield. I'd assume though that it would never be perfect they'd always have to contend with evolutionary steps the strains may take to make Carnifexs more resistant to their mind control devices. Maybe, in rules terms, it'd be like the frenzy of a CSM dread. Excpet only on a one, the Carnifex moves, runs, and fleet charges the nearest unit (Friend or Foe). After that if it rolls a one in the next turn it continues to assault that unit (if friendly) or it breaks off the assault and moved one inch away and under the players control as normal if anything else is rolled if it had charged a friendly unit.

I pretty much agree with canonness rory,except maybe for the fate of Demons.If i'm not mistaken their source of strength is humanity and the occasional dark eldar(ork are immune to chaos,tau too,necrons aren't even alive,nyds share a single soul apparently)Since most of humanity will be destroyed one way or another,i think they will become too weak to be a real nuisance.
Imho Necrons will fight against nyds cause they are the opposite,ultimately winning but with huge losses=bedtime for millenia again.
On the other hand i saw an interview on youtube regarding the DoW 2 game where a designer(or was it the producer?)spoke about the nyds.He said something like this"For what we know of the background the tyranids are like a giant fist enclosing the galaxy:all the mayhem they have caused is just one little finger touching it.If the whole fist should close the galaxy would be no more,there would be only Tyranids".
Also some people tend to foget how many orks really there are and that the more they fight the bigger and stronger they get.Gork and Mork are with all probability amongst the mightiest entities in the warp,if not the mightiest.If you think there are a lot of humans,you should realise they are just guest in an orcish(orkish?) galaxy
The dark eldar will survive too: they are pirates,they don't give a ****
Tau are too weak,they will be kroot food in the end(and the kroots know it )

Orks are more or less immune to chaos, but by killing they serve Khorne, all killing serves khorne. Khorne loves the Orks, even if he doesn't send bloodthirsters to help them and whatnot. There's a bit of fluff in the Ork Codex about a warboss leading his Waaagh to a Khornate planet, and they get slaughtered. They are then resurrected and made to fight for all eternity. The Orks are having the time of their lives.


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Orks are more or less immune to chaos, but by killing they serve Khorne, all killing serves khorne. Khorne loves the Orks, even if he doesn't send bloodthirsters to help them and whatnot. There's a bit of fluff in the Ork Codex about a warboss leading his Waaagh to a Khornate planet, and they get slaughtered. They are then resurrected and made to fight for all eternity. The Orks are having the time of their lives.

Nids - no one knows how many there actually are, and we have to assume they are infinite so thats an easy choice.
Necrons - Will be back? Also, all of the tome worlds have not been recorded so they could easily just be chillin out playin parcheezy and whatnot.
Chaos Space Marines - just hide in the warp
Space Marines - Think about how hard it is to kill them fluff wise, now multiply that by however many marines are in a legion, now multiply that by the number of legions.
Imperial Guard - There's no feasibly way you can kill off ALL of the humans, and even if there's only one human left, you have a guardsmen.

Comrade Amadayeus wrote:Nids - no one knows how many there actually are, and we have to assume they are infinite so thats an easy choice.
Necrons - Will be back? Also, all of the tome worlds have not been recorded so they could easily just be chillin out playin parcheezy and whatnot.
Chaos Space Marines - just hide in the warp
Space Marines - Think about how hard it is to kill them fluff wise, now multiply that by however many marines are in a legion, now multiply that by the number of legions.
Imperial Guard - There's no feasibly way you can kill off ALL of the humans, and even if there's only one human left, you have a guardsmen.

I don't think that survival is high up on the Space Marines 'To Do list' they'll probably do something suicidal all together, like attacking the hive fleet (as in 'the big one') or charging into the warp. Nope, survival and space marines don't go together.

As for Nids well, IF they don't conquer and eat this galaxy then they will starve. Geez, they probably already are after having spent so long in deep space.


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Tau: Kind of rule the galaxy, but not very effectively. have a lot of Necrons and Demons to deal with.


If Deamons are emotions of living being, then wouldn't they go all gooey and 'for the greater good' if Tau were the only souls available? (since necrons probably don't count)

Technically they really aren't, they only twist and use human emotions to their ends. Don't forget that these deamons were here before us, so how did they exist then if we weren't even there? No, the deamons are more of a , different plane of existance, kind of deal. If every sentient race in the galaxies died, then they would just wait for more, since they never die of old age and time is kinda iffy to them.

Comrade Amadayeus wrote:Technically they really aren't, they only twist and use human emotions to their ends. Don't forget that these deamons were here before us, so how did they exist then if we weren't even there? No, the deamons are more of a , different plane of existance, kind of deal. If every sentient race in the galaxies died, then they would just wait for more, since they never die of old age and time is kinda iffy to them.

You sure? I heard that they feed on sentinent emotions, you know Khorne like feeds on war and rage, nurgle feeds on sickness etc, Tzeentch feeds on lies, and Slaneesh feeds on all those things that creep even the other gods out.

So if there were no emotions like lust or rage, which is entirely possible if there are only Tau and Necrons left, then wouldn't the deamons start to reflect on what they feed on?

P.S. Are deamons confined to the 40k galaxy or do they plauge other galaxies like 'Nids?

N my 40k dream, the Star Child theory is correct and Cypher brings the emperor back, threw killing him and him being reborn or him just waking up and remaking the Lion's Sword. The Lion, Russ, Khan, Guilliman, Vulkan Corax all return or are healed and with there Emperor lead the great Triumph in which they recounqer all the galaxy for mankind and lead the final battle against the Chaos Gods in which the Dark Gods are slain along those traitorous Daemon Princes that use to be there Brothers thus closing the Eye of Terror, and The Imperium enters a Golden age in which the Eldar are dead, Nids cant even make head way at the borders of the Imperium anymore, Orks are all but extinct about as they become a main target.
Tau Empire crumbles as The Imperial military might and technology is renewed, Dark Eldar are there same selfs but without a god and are the only main organized threat, Necrons become new studies at Adeptus Machaunius factroies as The Emperor and his Primarchs have hunted them down and given them to mars to move forward in technology. The Emperor reopens the webway hidden under the Imperial palace and begins populating it, for it is now the hidden place protected by him so that no foe can destroy the human race.
Also The Emperor throws away the Cult Imperial as he had stated before his acsecion he is not a God, punishes the High Lords for there corruption and they again embrace science and technology and reason again
I think in my 40k nightmare, the Imperium will probably end up like the Eldar dying race fighting to survive(tho not ready for a fall). The Eldar are dead or they soon cave in and become Slanneshes slaves. Chaos will be triumph and the dark Gods will fight each other over Terra for eternity, Tau become the new super power in the galaxy(of course no were as glorious as The Imperium once was). Nids go away as the Astromican is no longer drawing there attetion. Orks are still doing there thing figthin. Dark Eldar become new troops for Slannesh joining him in the fight agasint the other gods. Necrons start waking up and begin there crusade on a massive organized scale against anything living once again awoken by the warp energies that now are ripe threw the galaxy.
Think that covers everyone sry for the rant lol

If the Eldar prophacies are to be beleaved, then end will come after the final battle against chaos which results in the final distruction of both the material universe and the warp. Which basicly leaves nothing.

It does leave one thing, the under-warp. Haven't you ever wondered were the eight-fold path leads?

Tau snuffed out as full brunt of Nid Horde crashes into them. Eldar get even closer to extinction (1 craftworld left?), chaos and deamon gods fight with Ctan and Necrons for the souls of those mortals remaining.

Orks and Dark Eldar can bugger off for all I care!

The Imperium itself would eventually be shattered beyond repair. The High Lords of Terra would organize a final escape for humanity, inserting the golden throne into a ship (or abbandonig it), getting the remnants of guard/sister/machine adepts/space marines and fleeing a burning galaxy. Making for the cold void of space...

After a Loooooooooooong time in deep space they reach another galaxy.
Guess what jedi/psyker Luke Skywalker! Deamon/ Witch Hunters are about to pawn your ass!!!!

New Imperium would make the Old Empire (with Vader) look like a picnic!

Look, pretty much all races can die in one way or another, but since this is a post of the most likely to survive then i'd have to go with.........

Tyranids: Because they are the only race that is beyond the known galaxy [maybe chaos is somewhere out there but I haven't read or heard about it, but its likely that they are because they live in the warp and the warp is...well the warp]

Orks: Since if you kill and ork it releases tiny spores which grow into more orks, they cant really die unless you destroy the spores [which would be quite hard]

Chaos: If there is emotional, living beings then there will be chaos.

Eldar/Dark Eldar: They have the webway [unless it get destroyed] to go to and hide in. And they can rebuild gateways elsewhere or just live in it.

As for the others................

Humanity [SM's, IG, sisters of battle, etc]: Not much hope there. If they are as we are now then we arn't going to live peacefully, EVER! but hey thats how we roll.

CSM: Same as humanity but with even less hope [unless they become immortal by Chaos somehow, but thats only some].

Tau: They're just asking for it!!! Some day they're going to get their little blue asses handed to them by something that doesn't agree with them and is stronger than them [thats starting to happen now anyway].

Necrons: Well..........if the C'tan survive then I guess the necrons will but I doubt it. They'd probably get destroyed some way or another.

Well, if Tyranids didn't manage to get a foothold in this galaxy they would STARVE. Necorns would go back to sleep, again. And Orks would be killed in a tide of neverending snotlings! Mwahahahhaha!!

It's worth noting, orks are actually scattered across the universe (although they probably originated from the Milky Way). The orks hitch rides on space hulks going deep into the warp and appear at random spots in space (and time) that may or may not be inside this galaxy.

Thus, both they and the tyranids have extra-galactic forces, although I doubt the orks know how to get back to this galaxy.

In true underdog fashion, Eldar.


Actually probably Daemons. As long as somebody is mad or perverted they're set.

I'd say it would be a massive war between Nids' and Daemons. Neither side would run out of troops, because so long as there's emotion in the universe there's Daemons, and the Tyranids gain numbers faster than they lose them, and they're Extra-Galactic in origin. Our galaxy would be torn between barren worlds stripped of all life, Twisted half infested/half corrupted worlds, and full-fledged Daemon Worlds

Or the Tech-Preists of Mars just come up with a new weapon, and the BLOW THE WHOLE GALAXY UP!!!!!!

We already have a weapon like that, we just haven't found the STC that tells us how to press the on button yet.

Space Marines will be left in the end. think about it.



Space Marines.

No way, to SURVIVE you need some sense of self-preservation. Space Marines have no such thing. They will all likely do a suicidal charge at the warp or hive fleet or something...