Before the grumps come in, YMMV obviously, but I did not expect this game to go this hard and be so good and satisfying at everything. Hectic combat with satisfying shooting, fun strats to call in, both enemy factions fighting in completely different ways, what's not to like? Even friendly fire incidents, where your head explodes like an overripe melon when it's hit by a stray LMG round, nine times out of ten, you laugh it off and that's also what the hug emote is for. As many peeps have said before now: this is the Starship Troopers game people have been asking for all along.
That said.. the devs are still reeling from just how successful the game is on both PS5 and PC, their servers are still struggling with the weekend uptick in players and right now the bonus 50% XP - Requisition slip compensation modifier is not properly triggering at all.
But the game is doing so well right now (top seller, healthy player population and all that), that the devs have been hiring on more people to get new content out sooner rather than later! We already know that the mech suit is on the way and that the third faction from the first game may make a return, as "Super Earth in its arrogance has been biting off more than it can chew", per the devs.
So, are YOU doing your part for managed democracy citizen?
I did my part A LOT with the first game. But the second one without the split screen multiplayer doesn't interest me at all. A top party game, for its hilarious couch coop, the first part was, absolutely awesome!
I've been having a blast with it. But unfortunately, when my friends started playing last night, I was stuck behind a "Server Full" error message for an hour until I finally gave up.
Sadly not this time around. I’d need to subscribe to PS+ just to play and the third person view would likely induce my delightful migraine/motion sickness combo.
My mates and I loved the first game - easily my most played online with IRL friends.
This sequel looks like a ton of fun; I’m really happy to see that folks are having so much fun with it. ?
Played a bunch of the first Helldivers, got the DLC and went pretty far in that game, so when this was announced, my friends and I were all onboard. I'm lucky that I'm on the PS5, so I was able to play week 1 since I didn't need to do quick matches, and so far we've gotten to roughly lvl 10. Biggest things that have thrown us off a bit are how stratagems play a much bigger role than your primary weapons compared to the first game, especially since you can't upgrade the primaries anymore. Hoping that we get vehicles added into the game again, would love to see how walkers and things like APC's/tanks are adjusted to the new 3rd person mode.
The current major goal involves playing 8 Defend Campaign missions against the Automatons. Since my friends weren't on, and I have lousy success in attempting to join other player lobbies, I went to the target planet, set the difficulty to Easy (2), and dropped in solo. Another player (Rank 1, as it turned out) joined me shortly afterwards, and we took a crack at it.
Huge mistake. HUGE mistake. It was a complete and utter mess. Constant bots all over the place pretty much all the time, and no way to kill them quickly enough. After we failed, I dropped it down to the lowest difficulty. We still failed, although we nearly pulled it off. But boy, are those missions a painful mess. It's not so much an escort as a "tell the civilians to run for it, and hope bad guys don't suddenly show up while they're moving to the target building - which is pretty much right next door."
I did get an achievement for playing a Defend Campaign mission even though I failed miserably. According to the achievement, only 0.1% of players have the achievement. I'm very suspicious about that number, though.
The current priority mission for the bots; evacuate 30 scientists, is bugged! The mission is supposed to have a 40 minute timer, but they shortened it to 15 minutes, but forgot to adjust the enemy wave ratio to compensate for this, meaning you will get 40 minutes worth of enemy waves crammed into those 15 minutes, it's the main reason why the war effort against the bots has dropped off so sharply. We tried the mission on hard and barely got by with three players, but it's both not fun and the XP pay-out is not worth it either, so we went back to hunting actual bugs instead.
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Just now checked the current progress of the major order and 2 out of 8 defence operations have been achieved against the bots. These are not supposed to be easy goals to reach, but I get a feeling that this one will probably fail due to the bug and low pay-out in both XP and other things.
At the moment just giving it a few weeks for them to iron out crossplay and other bugs then my pals and I are going to jump right in.
The first one was honestly the most fun I have ever had playing couch co-op. I would say up there with N64 GoldenEye back in the day, almost crying with laughter with the team kills and people accidentally dropping airstrikes on themselves etc. it was an absolutely wonderful game, this one has a lot to live up to!
I do not blame people for giving it a few more weeks to settle down, server capacity was upped yet again, but more and more players come flooding in due to positive reviews and a lot of promotion from YouTubers and the like, so on the weekends and during certain peak hours in the US, there's still a short wait to get a spot. It's not ideal, but it's the right kind of success to have.
BrookM wrote: The current priority mission for the bots; evacuate 30 scientists, is bugged! The mission is supposed to have a 40 minute timer, but they shortened it to 15 minutes, but forgot to adjust the enemy wave ratio to compensate for this, meaning you will get 40 minutes worth of enemy waves crammed into those 15 minutes, it's the main reason why the war effort against the bots has dropped off so sharply. We tried the mission on hard and barely got by with three players, but it's both not fun and the XP pay-out is not worth it either, so we went back to hunting actual bugs instead.
That makes a lot of sense. One of my friends got online last night, and we managed to clear one. But it was *really* rough. And we both agreed that the reward was nowhere near worth what it should have been.
The issues you describe are interesting, because I thought that they were supposed to be able to rapidly change all of that if they decided that the players were having too easy of a time. But I guess it's not quite that responsive.
The CEO of Arrowhead has come out and stated if people are still on the fence about getting the game, wait a few weeks until everything is fixed and stable, they'll be rolling out another fix later today which will implement a kick feature where people who are inactive for more than 30 minutes will get kicked from the game and free up a slot on the servers, as many people are staying logged in overnight now as to not lose their slot.
In other news, the mechs are raring to go, but require a final bit of polish, which they will receive once the servers have been stabilised.
The CEO has been really honest and up front about everything so far, when called out on the double XP weekends, he did admit that in hindsight, it was a bad way of compensating people for server downtime.
That said, the game is still gaining more and more traction, not bad for a game whose predecessor had around 7000 players at its peak.
Sucks that they haven't addressed heavy armour yet, though it's good to see that the escort civilian missions has been fixed finally. It was a bummer whenever it was part of a mission list since you basically had to have a squad armed to the teeth.
Not only armed to the teeth, and properly (since many strategem types aren't appropriate), but also for poor rewards. With no secondary objectives or enemy bases, you can only get the rewards for mission completion and extraction, and can also get penalized for dead civilians. So the escort missions were ridiculously hard, but gave the worst rewards in the game.
Eumerin wrote: Not only armed to the teeth, and properly (since many strategem types aren't appropriate), but also for poor rewards. With no secondary objectives or enemy bases, you can only get the rewards for mission completion and extraction, and can also get penalized for dead civilians. So the escort missions were ridiculously hard, but gave the worst rewards in the game.
That too of course. All that effort for basically no gain.
The weird part is seeing the number of cheaters that have popped up (unsurprisingly, primarily PC players) that are hacking to get a ridiculous amount of samples or aimbotting. For a purely PvE game.....why? It seems really pointless when half the fun besides playing with friends is getting through the grind.
Why? To get the good stuff. And to get the rush of completion even if they didn't earn it. Cheating in co-opPvE has been a problem for a long time. I remember hearing people complaining about playing with obvious cheaters in Dragons Crown several years ago.
Cheating has been a part of online gaming since it has existed unfortunately. I remember reading about the very first MUD text games in the 80s running on ARPANET "Lord Testicles has entered from the north, riding a horse and armed with a twig and a tower shield. The twig hits you for 2,678,263 damage. You are dead"
I remember going to school in the early 90s and leaving my character on Ultima Online running on macros (repeating actions was a way to boost abilities). I came home and my character had been transported into a room with no doors with a sign on the wall "think upon what you have done", or similar. Was one way of dealing with it
Who doesn't remember when Lord British was assassinated?
But yeah, sadly PVE games are also rife with cheaters and exploiters, on Reddit a few players have complained about having their games ruined by cheaters who gave them in one game more than enough rare resources they would ever need to upgrade everything.
Played another evacuation mission and.. eh.. barely 100XP for all the running we had to do. The devs are aware of this, but who knows if a fix will come in time, I can see us as a whole not hit this target by the end, it's just not fun and rewarding doing the same low paying mission over and over again.
Nay, the SES Advocate of Family Values shall commence operations against the Terminids instead. Seriously, what have you lot named your ship?
I feel like the family values ship name was the first thing most people went for (my friend certainly did at least), so I ended up going for a more serious sounding one for once. I was tempted to do a more direct 40k reference with the choice for Emperor of Mankind, but I ended up settling for Herald of Judgment. Wanted to see if there was something like the Invincible Reason, but this works too.
I haven't played this yet but it's all over my feed. I honestly don't even think I'd heard of the first game, but the clips I've seen of 2 have looked like a total blast. Is it class-based? Looks very Battlefield meets Starship Troopers.
creeping-deth87 wrote: I haven't played this yet but it's all over my feed. I honestly don't even think I'd heard of the first game, but the clips I've seen of 2 have looked like a total blast. Is it class-based? Looks very Battlefield meets Starship Troopers.
No, there are no classes. There is complete character customization from mission to mission. You select various "strategems", which provide support abilities (ranging from orbital strikes to defensive turrets, to man-portable support weapons), armor (which provides a slight buff, as well as - currently bugged - protection), and basic weapons (there's a small variety available). All are unlocked over the course of play as you grind out the resources used to build up your options. You can go full-engineer build for one mission, and then switch over to a build that emphasizes orbital bombardments for the next mission.
I'm still having trouble joining other groups of players. I can do it sometimes, which is an improvement. But all too often I get the "Failed to join game lobby" error message when I try to join a group currently in combat.
The worst, though, is an instance in which I did successfully join another player, we dropped, ran around a bit completing objectives, and then got a message that another destroyer had joined the squad.
I was *immediately* booted back to my own ship, and out of the squad.
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BrookM wrote: Who doesn't remember when Lord British was assassinated?
That wasn't cheating, though. That was a screw-up on Richard Garriott's part. There was a character reset of some sort. Unbeknownst to Richard Garriott - and everyone else on the development team - Lord British's Invulnerability flag got turned off in the reset. It wasn't obvious, since there wouldn't be any sign of it unless a character who wasn't supposed to enter combat took damage. And no one thought to check it.
And then one of the players thought, "Yeah, I know it won't hurt Lord British, but it would be amusing to put a wall of fire right where he's standing..."
Seems like there's quite a few new test weapons and items out in the wild that's been leaked for testing by some select players. Includes a displacer pack, a new arc shotgun, plasma shotgun and crossbow.
The mech leak also looks like the Obsidian autocannon variant from HD1, so it looks like it will likely be anti-medium infantry and best against automatons.
Reportedly the devs have been randomly giving players the mech summon stratagem as a way to test it out. The chance of being in a group with someone who gets the stratagem (let alone actually being the person with the stratagem) is quite low. But that's what I'm hearing.
It's reportedly fun, but the ammo capacity of the thing sucks. And you can only use it once per mission.
BrookM wrote: No chance of a resupply for its ammo? That would be a shame, our resident mech-fanatic has poor trigger discipline.
I've heard that's the way that they worked in the original game.
Having a good group in this game is a blast. I've had plenty of groups where no one (except maybe me) said much of anything, and we got missions done. But when you've got a group that communicates effectively, it makes things so much more fun.
On an unrelated note, it sounds as if Deep Rock Galactic might also adopt a policy that makes it possible to not miss out on season pass loot. If that practice spreads throughout the industry, it'll be great.
Deep Rock Galactic had such a feature implemented from the moment they announced their free season passes: they do not want anybody missing out and understand that not everybody can or will grind away at them. So any cosmetic, colour scheme or emote not unlocked while it was active will be put in the pool of stuff you can unlock when you come across a lost dwarf stash, the ones you can find after scanning a discarded helmet. It may take a while, but you will still get those cosmetics and colour schemes.
And yes, the game plays better with good comms, we play a private three stack exclusively ourselves, missing a fourth member can hurt on the higher difficulties, especially because one of us refuses to invest in new strats.. sometimes I hop into distress calls, but not really my cuppa.
Allso dont help that there is no way to get ps5 non party voice chat to my mono HS connected to DS5, they all come out of the TV and i do not want that, so i am forced to mute voice chat.
New update dropped today. Looks like they're nerfing a lot of the meta picks, the railgun, shield generator pack and the breaker have all taken some hits. I still think they'll be taken, but I am somewhat disappointed they didn't touch up some of the other primary guns a bit. Flamer, Punisher and the Laser Cannon got buffed which is nice, but would have liked them to address the medium armour pen weapons.
Armour seems to be finally implemented but I'm sad to see that heavy armour seems to be a non-starter since taking an extra 2-3 hits over medium armour doesn't seem worth it over the speed and stamina loss. I was hoping it would at least allow you to ignore stagger from lighter attacks from the trash mobs. Especially against bugs, where mobility is so key to surviving on the higher difficulty levels.
Well their goal is to not have meta picks, but instead the right tool for the right job based on your personal preference.
"Designer Alex K:
Our goal is to give you a wide range of weapon choices, where each gun has its purpose and none is strictly better than another. Sure, you will have your own favorite, but it should come from your personal preference, not from the universally agreed knowledge of which gun is the strongest. Generally, we balance each item according to its quirks, so if a weapon is very effective at what it does, it should come with significant disadvantages to balance its power.
The AC-8 Autocannon is a good example of a well-balanced weapon: it packs a powerful punch, has a very good range, but requires you to carry an ammo backpack or have a friend assist you. The GL-21 Grenade Launcher is the opposite example. It's a good general purpose weapon that gives you so much flexibility, it obviously can't deal too much damage without becoming overpowered.
But weapons that are both powerful and versatile become a no-brainer choiсe during the weapon selection phase. It robs you of your own agency, as stale "meta" builds force you to make an unfair choice between a fun weapon and an effective one. In short: Powerful weapons can't be too versatile, versatile weapons can't be too powerful.
On a more personal note, I know that having your favorite toy nerfed absolutely sucks. Investing countless hours into mastering a weapon is an incredible dedication from you, which is the main reason we're making this game in the first place. And then having that weapon weakened feels like a punishment for being too good at the game.
But I implore you not to compare a changed item with its older version, but to evaluate the existing one as it is and see if it still has a place in your heart."
Both sides of the argument make good points for and against the nerfs, but the main problem so far is.. the devs want us to use strats to kill the big guys, while at the same time penalizing you heavily for using them in the tougher difficulty brackets (longer deploy times, longer recharge times, other penalties on top of that) and also spamming the gak out of the really tough monsters and vehicles. One fix that keeps getting mentioned is to just downgrade the armour on some things, like the legs of a Charger, if you're going to face six of them at once, might as well throw the players a bone.
Right now we're on a short liberation mission, if we succeed, we will get the exo suits!
Yeah, I've really seen more of the complaints come from the bugs because they feel a lot more binary compared to Automatons because Automatons come in with built in weakpoints that are much more accessible compared to Chargers and Bile Titans where they are both hard to outmaneuvre and there feels like there's waaaaay more of them compared to Hulks and other Tanks. At the very least Arrowhead needs to scale back the numbers a bit or make it so the Charger can't spin on a dime or make it so that shooting the butt actually is more effective for basic guns than havingly to constantly strip off the leg armour to kill it.
Automatically Appended Next Post: We have won the war for Tien Kwan and as such, the EXO-45 PATRIOT EXOSUIT has been approved for general deployment! It unlocks at level 25 for 20,000 but can be called in once per mission right now.
I had a little tootle about in the mech in a game just now, it's pretty fun but I think the balance is a little off. I think it's maybe a better use against bots.
Game seems a little janky at the minute, getting stuck on the shiny pods and in that last game got no xp or medals..
Servers were swamped again due to the sudden unlock of the mechs, rewards will have been added at later points when the servers have caught up.
I feel the opposite about the mech, great against bugs, who don't have that much ranged, while decent against the bots, where I rampaged through their outposts until a lucky rocket one-shot me. Current outfitting is decent enough, but very.. hit or miss, the rockets are very powerful but have zero splash damage and the minigun takes a little too long to spool up for firing for my liking.
Yep the more I've played the more I enjoy the mech. Also finally tried out level 6 difficulty which is just endless Biotitans whatever they are actually called. Difficult but not impossible.
Currently the balancing in higher difficulties is severely unbalanced and the devs are looking into the matter, also taking in feedback from the community as a whole, we may see destruction of bug nests and bot factories have an influence on extraction if there's enough interest for it.
And yeah, people have asked Arrowhead to make 40k cosmetics happen already. If there's one game where they would fit in seamlessly, it's this one. They've not been shy about wearing their influences openly, some of the weapons are nods towards 40k, like the assault rifle that shoots miniature rockets. Hell, in their previous game, Magicka, there was even a not-Space Marine Librarian skin complete with boltgun and moose-capped force staff.
We may also see a Casper Van Dien cameo, that would be neat, tying in with the other source of inspiration: Starship Troopers the movie.
Good day citizens of Super Earth. A new patch to aid you in your efforts is coming in. May Super Earth give you courage
Overview Today's patch is dealing with the spawn rate of heavily armored Terminid enemies as well as the possible play against them. It also contains some fixes to UI elements and crash fixes.
Balancing Enemies:
- The amount of heavily armored targets that spawn on higher difficulties, especially for Terminids, have been a big discussion point online and internally. The intent is for groups to have to bring some form of anti-tank capability but not to the degree previously needed.
- To that end we have reduced the spawn rate of Chargers and Bile Titans on difficulties 7 and up. In addition we have reduced the risk of spawn spikes of Chargers and Bile Titans.
- Please note that we have changed the distribution of enemy types, not reduced difficulty. Expect other enemy types to appear in greater numbers instead.
- We are humbled by the community's ability to find things like Chargers “leg meta” in our game, however spending your heavy anti tank weapons on legs instead of the obvious weak point seems counter to expectation.
- We are not changing anything regarding the Charger’s legs, we are however lowering the health of the Charger’s head. It should now be at a point where a well placed shot from a Recoilless Rifle or EAT-17 instantly kills a charger.
- Together with the unfortunately undocumented change of last patch that increased the armor penetration ability of less well placed shots for EAT-17s and Recoilless Rifle shots, Chargers should now be easier to handle by well equipped groups.
Gameplay "Electronic Countermeasures" operation modifier, which had a chance of giving you a random stratagem instead of the one you input, has been removed in order to be reworked, and will be reintroduced in a future iteration. We found that this modifier wasn’t communicated clearly enough and overall caused more frustration than excitement with the way it was currently implemented. This change was made in 1.000.100 but was unintentionally omitted from the patch notes.
Fixes Fixed missing text on several HUD / UI elements.
Fixed several subtitle / VO mismatches in the news videos.
Fixed various crashes that occurred mid-gameplay and when deploying to missions.
Known Issues Game crashes when attempting to use a stim while inside an Exosuit.
Pink artifacts may appear in the sky when setting off large explosions.
Automaton Dropship seemingly disappears and slides in after being shot down.
Shots from arc-based weapons may not count towards kills in post-mission stats.
Players cannot unfriend other players befriended via friend code.
Cross-platform friend invites might not show up in the friend requests tab.
Players may be unable to select loadout or return to ship when joining a multiplayer game session via PS5 Activity Card.
The Exosuit can destroy itself with rockets if it fires while turning.
Text chat box display is obstructed by the cinematic letterboxing during extraction.
Some people are unable to accept friend requests. This is mostly an issue cross platform
Release Captain Carlberg out
All in all, the change in health to the head of the Charger is a welcome compromise!
Olthannon wrote: Yep the more I've played the more I enjoy the mech. Also finally tried out level 6 difficulty which is just endless Biotitans whatever they are actually called. Difficult but not impossible.
I hopped on for a bit last night... What a disaster. Worst group I've ever played with.
Spot a Scout Strider? Don't try and maneuver around it or set it up for your teammates. Instead, call in an orbital strike! See an automaton patrol off in the distance? Don't avoid it! I think almost half of our deaths were due to strategems.
I managed to prod them in the direction of the objectives instead of fighting every last automaton reinforcement. But we ended up wiping when the last two squad members called in the evac shuttle, jumped off of the raised landing pad, and never got back up onto it even after the shuttle landed.
And all three of the other team members were like this.
I do the odd bit of helping out with randoms, but for the most part I avoid it due to just that. Will say, dropping into a game of low levels and giving them my shiny kit is always fun, I'm just there to help out and let them play with things like the railgun, autocannon and now that the EXO is no longer available to everyone, that as well.
Also, I have had some fun killing chargers with the EAT, just perfection. Yeah, you need to shoot them in the face, but if your nerves hold and you can get a clear line of sight, not that easy when they're part of a horde, you are rewarded with some nice, clean kills. Instantly makes the EAT all the better as well, it already has a 70 second cooldown and comes in pairs, but the armour downgrade on the charger really elevated it to a must-have tool in higher ranked games.
New pass has dropped and I had enough medals for the new lasgun, it's a lot of fun to use and decently powerful to boot! Only downside is that it takes a second to spin up and that it can build up heat real fast if you're not careful enough. Also, all three sets of armour have a 95% resistance against arc weapon damage. You know what this means.. Maybe we'll see special fire resistance in the future, making the use of napalm and flamethrowers even more rewarding.
I was really psyched up to see that the sickle was coming back since I used it as my main weapon back in the first Helldivers. I'm glad to hear that the general consensus that it's actually decent and good! Good to see there's some more variety beyond just the shotgun meta, and I'm hoping to try it out later tonight.
Also, the arc resistance armour is just in time for me having bought the tesla towers, it's definitely useful when doing those silo defense missions.
Very interested to see what happens now that we successfully murderised all the bots. I'm sure something dreadful will happen. All we will become Hell farmers.
Bots are gone, bugs are almost put back in their place, we've all but won the war, rejoice! With a new warbond dropping on Thursday and all quiet on the western front, oh yes, big things are happening soon. ?
It's a pretty ballsy move of the devs to temporarily remove the bots from play. I've got no access to spoilers or anything, but the way I see it, either the bots are making a big move for Cyber-stan with their stealth ships, or the Illuminate are finally making their big move.
I've seen the stealth ships in low orbit, others have reported our ships engaging these invisible adversaries and I've been shot by a blue laser out of nowhere, that was an unexpected and fun event alright.
And the bug order has also been smashed, will be a few more days until we get the medals, but all in all, the game is nicely set up for the next stage of the campaign. I do hope the bots make a return soon, still need to bag me a gunship and mobile factory at some point.
Played my first full set of missions on hard today, got the full extract achievement as well, courtesy of a very competent random that rounded out our three stack. Mate was level 21 but held his own so damned well and eyyyy, he's also part of the LAS-16 Sickle squad. Just wish the Spear would be less dopey with the target locks, quite a few chargers could've been nailed if it locked on a bit earlier.
Automatically Appended Next Post: And it's happening! Hopefully soon we'll get some major orders that'll help us unlock the new vehicles and EXO-variants.
So... there's a bit of a commotion over this game right now...
When I got the game on Steam, I was asked to link the game to my PSN account. But I was also given the option to skip this. I genuinely can't remember whether I did or not.
As some of you may have heard, this has changed. You now no longer have the option to skip this. The official story is that there were technical issues preventing this from working early on, but the issues are fixed now. PC players are now being forced to link their game account to a PSN account. To say that this has caused a bit of a stir is an understatement. There are a lot of PC players who are upset about suddenly having to sign into PSN to play a PC game, especially since the game has been running just fine for months without the requirement. The game is getting massively review bombed over this. Nearly half of the reviews on Steam right now are recent, and they are "Overwhelmingly Negative". Players consider this a big deal.
To make matters worse, there are only 73 countries in the world where you can have a PSN account. The game is available in a *lot* more than that. Countries where you can't have a PSN account include the Baltlic States, ALL of Africa (including Egypt) except for South Africa, most of the land-based part of SE Asia (Vietnam, Malaysia, and Singapore are the exceptions; yes, this means that if you live in Thailand, you can't have a PSN account), and a good-sized chunk of the Middle East (exceptions for Israel, Saudi Arabia, Oman, and the UAE). Note that these are not the only countries where it's not available.
"But Eumerin," you say, "There aren't many people playing video games in those countries. That's why they Sony didn't bother making PSN available there." That might very well be the case. But it doesn't change the fact that Steam is available nearly everywhere (Steam actually claims to be available in more countries around the world than are officially recognized ; most of the extras are apparently places like the Republic of China, aka Taiwan). So there are definitely players who bought Helldivers 2... and now literally cannot play it because of this change, and have no choice in the matter (at least legally; there might be options that involve using a VPN and lying about their location).
I got into the game at the right time that’s for sure….
The losing playability for so many people is a big deal! It’s a management choice that’s just so dumb.
Have to wonder if this is even higher management than PlayStation management itself, because it seems like that we want people on our network sorta deal.
Don't have the game myself, but someone on a discord I frequent was saying not only are the game developers actively telling people to leave negative reviews and seek refunds, but steam are actually providing refunds regardless of how many hours you have clocked up. Person in question had 180+ hrs logged and got their money back.
Yeah, it's a hot mess and the community managers for Arrowhead are really flubbing their responses, it's kinda ridiculous how bad their PR team is in responding to player complaints, one of their discord mods are claiming that one of the players organizing the complaints are commiting sexual assault out of the blue.
It's kinda wacky seeing the rise and now the potential downfall of this game in a matter of months. Sony looks like they're strangling the golden goose.
Oh, there was just an update from Sony announcing that they're backing down from the requirement to link PC players with PSN accounts. We'll see if they are trying to be more sneaky with another go at it in future when this dies down but it looks like a win for the larger HD2 community, managed democracy! Major order completed lads!
Ah, sony, another just allround bad company in the videogameing industry that pushes the "you will own nothing, not even the licensce propperly" to product you buy...
It's good that the players stood up, especially that even steam does now refunds aswell, fully deserved.
It shows you how bad the stranglehold on the industry is. And also ironic that the entire satiric message of the game is how bad a future would be if this continues unabated.
It's kinda wacky seeing the rise and now the potential downfall of this game in a matter of months. Sony looks like they're strangling the golden goose.
Yeah, this and the last minute Stellar Blade censorship have been a one two punch of stupidity for the company. I guess they've just gotten too used to players rolling over and accepting everything.
It's kinda wacky seeing the rise and now the potential downfall of this game in a matter of months. Sony looks like they're strangling the golden goose.
Yeah, this and the last minute Stellar Blade censorship have been a one two punch of stupidity for the company. I guess they've just gotten too used to players rolling over and accepting everything.
Honestly, Sony needs to be taken down a peg every console generation or so, we've seen this arrogance happen in the beginning of the PS3 era after the success of the PS2 given how insane the starting price of the PS3 was when Xbox slammed them down in terms of sales and forced them to win back consumer goodwill with quality games and better consumer practices which spilled over into the start of the PS4 generation with them not following through with the DRM "always online" that Xbox did then, but ever since then having market dominance has made them cocky again since Xbox never really recovered since shooting themselves in the foot with the launch of the Xbox One.
I'm honestly hoping they consider moving their HQ back into Japan at some point because I feel like a lot of the bad decisions they've made in the gaming division started ever since they moved into California.
I'm honestly hoping they consider moving their HQ back into Japan at some point because I feel like a lot of the bad decisions they've made in the gaming division started ever since they moved into California.
From what I've heard, the US (California, really) and Japan divisions don't see eye to eye on a number of things, which has caused some friction. But it's unlikely that they'll move the HQ back to Japan unless there's a really compelling reason to do so, imo.
I'm honestly hoping they consider moving their HQ back into Japan at some point because I feel like a lot of the bad decisions they've made in the gaming division started ever since they moved into California.
From what I've heard, the US (California, really) and Japan divisions don't see eye to eye on a number of things, which has caused some friction. But it's unlikely that they'll move the HQ back to Japan unless there's a really compelling reason to do so, imo.
I've heard similar rumblings in regards to Sony and Bungie.
Looks like some heads are rolling, one of their discord community managers, Spitz, got the axe for their less than stellar PR handling the player complaints on the whole debacle.
Grimskul wrote: Looks like some heads are rolling, one of their discord community managers, Spitz, got the axe for their less than stellar PR handling the player complaints on the whole debacle.
I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that he knew that he was going to get into trouble, most like this outcome, the moment he posted that players should be pissed and seek refunds for what Sony was doing.
The new Polar Patriots warbond isn't going very well amongst the community. The base skin colours are wrong for the new AR, which is also inferior to the current baseline Liberator AR even just at first glance based on stats (they really hate making AR's good in this game). The new armour looks nice but has no environmental buffs against being on Snow planets sadly. The plasma purifier gun is also another dud and it looks like only the pistol and the SMG are the weapons worth taking. Even the new "motivating shocks" booster basically doesn't do what it says it's supposed to do.
I think AH need to let the testing team keep these warbonds in the oven longer since they tend to be very underwhelming, which is weird since it's a PvE coop game so while I get you don't want to cakewalk through enemies, you also shouldn't feel penalized for not meta-gaming with certain weapons.
News is circulating that while Sony has removed the PSN requirement to play Helldivers 2, apparently the game still can't actually be played if you live in a country that doesn't have PSN. Arrowhead claims that Sony hasn't responded to their requests for an update on what's going on.
not sure about playing, but they did block the sale of the game in all the non-psn countries the same day they put out the post about not making psn required
greenskin lynn wrote: not sure about playing, but they did block the sale of the game in all the non-psn countries the same day they put out the post about not making psn required
Curious...
Makes me wonder if they think they can try again in the future.
It wouldn't surprise me
I saw it pointed out somewhere else that sony has a pattern of trying to pull some bs about every other console generation or so
I still hop on for my daily challenge if it's a quick and easy one, but right now, with the patrol ratios being broken for solo games, the latest war bond being a disappointing mess and well, the balance team actively nerfing the gak out of anything remotely fun or good for the sake of maintaining some idiotic status quo only they know of, they're doing a great job sucking a lot of the fun out of the game right now. Not even surprised that we're not getting the new AT mines today, the hype is dead and gone.
Oh and the Scythe still can't shoot through foliage despite claims otherwise, the Spear still has massive trouble locking on to gak and so on.. At least the air-bursting launcher is fun to use, whoops should not have said that out loud, balancing team with the nerf bat incoming!
Here's hoping they unfeth this gak before going any further with the story, they've already been very receptive to the community request to put a hold on further war bond releases until the balancing team stops ruining things.
So the Dark Fluid mission is bugged across all difficulties right now, bug breaches both on top and under the drill and potentially endless shriekers. Some players are also only getting 1 star rewards even if they complete everything. Seems like AH are still sending stuff out half baked and their QA team is either asleep at the wheel or non-existent. There's rumours that the destruction of Meridia is supposed to draw in the Illuminates back in as a 3rd front, but I'm kinda worried they're going to botch even that execution. AH really needs to take a step back and make sure they've ironed out the kinks for their releases, because between broken game interactions and underwhelming guns, it's become a chore rather than a fun time with the lads killing xenos and robo scum.
Patch day, way too many fixes, buffs and reversals to list here, but we eating FETHING good all of the sudden, either Hello Neighbour got the boot, or at the very least his gak kicked in, because some of these changes are fething amazing. The devs intend for certain strats to be used in a particular way, see the players use them in another way and what do they do? They alter the strat to better work with the player meta instead of pulling an Alexus and forcing us to adjust.
Also, new warbond, loving it. New carbine has a kick to it, but satisfying to use, as is the sawn-off Chiappa triple crown.
Okay, biggest womp-womp for me is that they did break the Spear as they fixed the target lock issues, so for the time being it can't be used to delete bot factories, the main reason I brought it along in our squad, it'll be fixed with a later patch, until then.. FML. ?
Really impressed with this patch, they've done their damnedest to fix the issues and it's a bang up job. They unnerfed the Eruptor which is fantastic. The HMG is really fun now.
Ballistic shield is bugged to hell and back now for some reason again hehe, somehow it locked me out of being able to stand up after crouching down and going prone, I had to drop it to be able to stand up again or do anything at all.
I might not game like how I used too, but I rather enjoy the game play loop that I can either play for 20 minutes or hours, committing war crimes against bugs and bots
I didn't join the fight until march but I have been enjoying the game through it all. I am really happy with this latest war bond and patch.
Can't wait for the third faction to be added.
I think it's only a war crime if you're the loser.
Has anybody had a chance to use the new Commando launcher? I saw it was available for a short while, but my drops are so infrequent now due to the many, many, many bugs and well, lack of proper new content, that I've for the time being moved on to other stuff.
It's good fun to use, basically the EAT but laser guided and similar in terms of damage (as in the 4 rockets do about the same damage as the EATs 1). It's now available for anyone to purchase after we successfully completed the last MO.
My friends and I are regular players at the minute, a good portion of the bugs are ironed out now and the removal of the weapon nerfs has really made it enjoyable.
Woo! Was waiting for this, one heck of an early Christmas gift from Arrowhead. Going to redownload HD2 back on my PS5 and try out my terrible driving over the weekend.
"In a report by the ministry of truth, it's been shown that automotive accidents are the cause of more casualties than the Illuminate forces. Clearly, this proves that the undemocratic enemy is a negligible threat to Super-Earth's finest"
The bayonet on the Constitution rifle is pretty useful all of the sudden, while I am a poor shot in this game, the bayonet has been working like a charm. Also been trying the new baton weapon and if it wasn't tied to stamina, it'd be the best (not to mention OP) weapon yet for dealing with the voteless.
As is, am using the standard MG-43 a lot again, tried the recoilless on the landed shuttles, but despite shooting the rounds into an unshielded opening, they bounce off for some reason, requiring either a grenade or some other strat to take it out, bit annoying. They are also immune to the Spear it seems, bah.
And just like that, they're gone again, never to be seen again! We did get the confirmation that the vehicle strat is a few days away from hitting the game, so it'll be fun to see how it holds up against bots and bugs, not to mention, having a fast mode of travel available. Hopefully the leaked IFV from half a year ago won't be far behind.
Have had a lot of fun rocking the light Viper Commando armour against the squids, the 100% melee damage buff the armour gives, when paired with the baton and bayonet, slap the stamina booster on top, is just perfect. ??
Dang, I wasn't aware the vanguard was already cleared out, or I would have played it over the weekend. Hoping the next wave of Illuminate come back soon!
Unfortunately never managed to get a full game in due to some connection issues but had fun while I was on. I expect them to be firing out of Meridia any day now.
Well now, the second Helghast set is handed out for free, because the first half of it is overpriced, premature damage control from Arrowhead, well done.
Maybe we'll see special fire resistance in the future, making the use of napalm and flamethrowers even more rewarding.
Democracy 
We did get the confirmation that the vehicle strat is a few days away from hitting the game, so it'll be fun to see how it holds up against bots and bugs, not to mention, having a fast mode of travel available. Hopefully the leaked IFV from half a year ago won't be far behind.
