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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/07/02 20:55:07
Subject: Mastermind - Cast -Painted! -Up for grabs on page 2!
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Regular Dakkanaut
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So one of these days I'll get around to collecting an ork army again, and when I do, this is the chap who will direct them in battle:
I've always wanted to have a "brain ork" running the show from behind the scense.
Let me know what you think!
(*edit: this guy is now done and cast and available to purchase in the swap shop! link on page 2*)
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This message was edited 5 times. Last update was at 2008/09/23 15:35:59
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/07/02 21:17:10
Subject: Mastermind
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Dakka Veteran
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Official score:
+1 Ork
-1 somewhat slender for an Ork
+1 trenchcoat
+1 lapels
+1.4 pointing yet still looks tough
+18 monocle
Total: +21.4
Seriously, this is awesome work. My only suggestion (now keep in mind that this is 10x better than anything I ever sculpted) is that, without painting, he's slightly difficult to identify as an Ork. Maybe a broader chest or accompanying squig with monocle would help Orkify him. Keep up the great work.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/07/02 22:44:05
Subject: Mastermind
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Regular Dakkanaut
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groz wrote:Official score:
+1 Ork
-1 somewhat slender for an Ork
+1 trenchcoat
+1 lapels
+1.4 pointing yet still looks tough
+18 monocle
Total: +21.4
Seriously, this is awesome work. My only suggestion (now keep in mind that this is 10x better than anything I ever sculpted) is that, without painting, he's slightly difficult to identify as an Ork. Maybe a broader chest or accompanying squig with monocle would help Orkify him. Keep up the great work.
Hahaha! Thanks, that ranking really made my day!
He is a bit thinner proportionately, but that's a result of me trying to straighten the posture and bring the proportions more in line with a standard humanoid. On the other hand, because of this, he is quite a bit taller than a regular ork, so what he lakes in bulk he makes up for in height. I wanted something a bit less feral than the plastic orks. Anyhow, if I find the time, I'll do a up a bodyguard of 'ardboyz for him, but who knows when that will be.
Thanks for the comment!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/07/02 22:49:05
Subject: Mastermind
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Sword-Wielding Bloodletter of Khorne
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looks really cool, but i thought he was a human actually. maybe a larger more orkish head, and larger shoulders and upper back
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/07/02 23:59:45
Subject: Re:Mastermind
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Thanks Tylermenz... I'll be adding some details like tusks, which should make it clearer.
It kind of got away from me in the course of the sculpting, and ended up looking not very much like a gw ork...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/07/03 00:55:04
Subject: Mastermind
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Long-Range Black Templar Land Speeder Pilot
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stick his ass out more like the new 'fruta boyz' as we call em.
the first time I saw him I thought he was a guardsman.
idk, I remember in the ork book the brain orks that made the war orks to protect them. but they where smaller and had bigger heads or something like that.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/07/03 10:20:51
Subject: Mastermind
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Nurgle Veteran Marine with the Flu
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I'd have to second the 'mo orky. Nice sculpt nonetheless, I can't sculpt anything so I'm jelous.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/07/03 16:39:18
Subject: Mastermind
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Wash-away - I remember something about brain orks in the codex, but no-one knows what happened to them...
I know he'd look more orky with the bent-over posture, but I specifically wanted to have him standing straight & defiant.
Le Grognard - Thanks for the comments. You say you can't sculpt, but apparently you paint deathguard very well!
In the end, I may have to call him something else other than an ork. Someone suggested that I use him just as some sort of giant Abhuman, and I like that idea rather well.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/07/03 17:07:24
Subject: Re:Mastermind
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Guard Heavy Weapon Crewman
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That's very impressive. How did you form the thin edges on that monocle? I've been trying to create goggle lenses like this by pressing a piece of mechanical pencil lead into a dab of putty, but they always seem end up with thick, rounded outer edges.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/07/03 18:21:48
Subject: Mastermind
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Battleship Captain
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Yeah, I would agree that if you don't give him the hunched-over orky stature, he needs bulking up quite a bit. I just thought he was an ugly human and wondered why he'd be leading orks.
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Man, I wish there was a real Black Library where I could get a Black Library Card and take out Black Library Books without having to buy them. Of course, late fees would be your soul. But it would be worth it. - InquisitorMack |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/07/03 20:44:32
Subject: Re:Mastermind
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Quidlon wrote:That's very impressive. How did you form the thin edges on that monocle? I've been trying to create goggle lenses like this by pressing a piece of mechanical pencil lead into a dab of putty, but they always seem end up with thick, rounded outer edges.
Thank you sir. I use a wooden clay sculpting tool that comes to a point. The point is well-rounded now from lots of use. I push a ball of putty on, then press the point into the center and work it in small circles, broadening the lens as I go. A little bit of hair- oil works well as a lubricant for small amounts of putty and keeps it from tearing. Good luck!
Death By Monkeys wrote:Yeah, I would agree that if you don't give him the hunched-over orky stature, he needs bulking up quite a bit. I just thought he was an ugly human and wondered why he'd be leading orks.
Hmm.... Yeah, maybe I'll bulk up the back/shoulders. I don't want to mess with the front too much (those buttons and lapels were hard!) but the shoulders/back could use some work. I'll see what I can get done tonight.
Cheers,
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/07/07 21:56:15
Subject: Now 100% more tusky!
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Regular Dakkanaut
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And this is my first time using the dakka photo dump, so here is a link to the very large pic of the the whole guy with the changes. I bulked out his back and shoulders somewhat, in addition to redoing the monocle and adding tusks and some more detail to his eye. Thanks for looking!
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/downloadAttach/5047.page
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/07/07 22:16:11
Subject: Mastermind
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Grovelin' Grot Rigger
Ireland
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That's really awesome  wish I could sculpt. Mine is a standard Ghaz with a grot loading the stikkbomb launcha on top of him all painted in a bright speed freak color scheme.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/07/08 17:18:44
Subject: Mastermind
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Thanks, goof. Ghaz is awesome right out of the box, no converting neccessary so you've nothing to worry about!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/07/08 17:47:13
Subject: Mastermind
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Battleship Captain
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I like the changes - and if you're happy with them, that's what's really important. I'm afraid to do the type of bulking out I think would make him look really Orky you'd need to make some major changes to the model and I think you've done too nice of a job with him to do that.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/07/08 17:49:35
Subject: Re:Mastermind
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Boosting Ultramarine Biker
Arlington, VA
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I've only ever heard of "brain Orks" in ancient tomes of fluff that I can't even remember where. I've not seen pictures either, so let your imagination run wild. No reason why they have to look exactly like orks only smarter.
Oh yeah, that's an amazing sculpt by the way!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/07/08 23:39:08
Subject: Mastermind
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Grovelin' Grot Rigger
Ireland
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They are spoken of in the new codex, refered to as "Brainboyz" I had a mind of converting a one or two models to represent something like it but this just blew my brains to s**t. Again Nathonicus, well done mate, awesome job. I'll have to pu up my Warlord WIP tomoro some time.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/07/09 00:24:04
Subject: Re:Mastermind
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Death By Monkeys wrote:I like the changes - and if you're happy with them, that's what's really important. I'm afraid to do the type of bulking out I think would make him look really Orky you'd need to make some major changes to the model and I think you've done too nice of a job with him to do that.
Thanks Death, I'm inclined to agree and will probably just clean up and maybe cast this guy so I can keep the original.
Sturmtruppe wrote:I've only ever heard of "brain Orks" in ancient tomes of fluff that I can't even remember where. I've not seen pictures either, so let your imagination run wild. No reason why they have to look exactly like orks only smarter.
Oh yeah, that's an amazing sculpt by the way!
Thank you! I do like this fellow as he is shaping up, and glad he strikes a chord with you as well.
Goof wrote:They are spoken of in the new codex, refered to as "Brainboyz" I had a mind of converting a one or two models to represent something like it but this just blew my brains to s**t. Again Nathonicus, well done mate, awesome job. I'll have to pu up my Warlord WIP tomoro some time.
I'm glad you like it, goof, but there's no reason you shouldn't go ahead and convert your idea.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/07/14 17:25:33
Subject: Mastermind
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/07/22 20:52:57
Subject: Mastermind
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Got a single cast made before destroying my mold :(
Came out really well, but unfortunately I made some mistakes in the mold that required it to be partially destroyed while removing my model. No more Urethane rubbers for me! Next time, Silicone all the way.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/07/22 21:48:46
Subject: Re:Mastermind - Cast!
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Rampaging Furioso Blood Angel Dreadnought
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My opinions pretty well echo the echos in here. I'm common like that. However, 2 things to add:
1. That is just a great execution of that idea! Really good show.
2. I am just fething DYING to see this thing painted. Please put up some more pics as you color him in?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/07/22 22:12:02
Subject: Mastermind - Cast!
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Chaos Space Marine dedicated to Slaanesh
Göteborg, Sweden
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Beautiful sculpt! Dont make it any more orky. His arrogant pose and face is awesome!
My only suggestions would be to give the dude slightly bigger boots. Maybe something orky like a metal jaw on one boot. And the hand behind the back needs to hold a gun
Get the thing painted!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/07/23 16:59:38
Subject: Re:Mastermind - Cast!
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Regular Dakkanaut
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grizgrin wrote:My opinions pretty well echo the echos in here. I'm common like that. However, 2 things to add:
1. That is just a great execution of that idea! Really good show.
2. I am just fething DYING to see this thing painted. Please put up some more pics as you color him in?
Thanks! I don't have a game lined up for tonight ( 40k night at the LGS), so I will bust out my paints on this guy.
xedric wrote:Get the thing painted! 
Sir, yes sir!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/07/23 17:12:39
Subject: Mastermind - Cast!
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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awesome sculpt  my only quibble is you used brain and ork in a positive way.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/07/29 21:08:50
Subject: Mastermind - Cast -Painted!
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Thanks for all the kind comments, I finally got my cast of this guy on a base and painted. I'm not a great painter, and my home camera is pretty bad, so please excuse the pic quality, but here he finally is:
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/07/29 21:46:15
Subject: Re:Mastermind - Cast -Painted!
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Rampaging Furioso Blood Angel Dreadnought
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If I had an orc army I would buy a few of those off you. That's just great! Really, really impressive. Thanks for sharing, it came out really good. I see you said you trashed oyur mold doing it. You gonna re-do the mold, or just keep the master handy?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/07/29 22:13:04
Subject: Re:Mastermind - Cast -Painted!
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Regular Dakkanaut
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grizgrin wrote:If I had an orc army I would buy a few of those off you. That's just great! Really, really impressive. Thanks for sharing, it came out really good. I see you said you trashed oyur mold doing it. You gonna re-do the mold, or just keep the master handy?
Thanks for the props, Grizgrin. I am going to redo the mold, and when I do, I'll make a few changes to the master. (I noticed one of the buttons was smaller than the others, fill in between the coat and the backside of the legs for easier demolding, etc.) This won't be until probably later this fall, as I'm about to move apartments and then my wife and I are going on a trip for a while, so probably round about September/October I'll be doing some more molding.
Anyone who would be interested in getting some models when the new molds are done should PM me with their email, and I'll update everyone after the delay.
Thanks!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/07/29 22:26:33
Subject: Mastermind - Cast -Painted!
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Annandale, VA
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Excellent job, I'm very fond of the skin.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/07/31 08:19:35
Subject: Mastermind - Cast -Painted!
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Virulent Space Marine dedicated to Nurgle
Sweden but live in singapore
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Amazing!!!! simple as that
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/07/31 11:01:41
Subject: Mastermind - Cast -Painted!
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Homicidal Veteran Blood Angel Assault Marine
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I have to second everyone's thoughts at the beginning of the thread, I thought it was a human/IG guy too. After seeing it painted up and the details picked out, I love it, that's an awesome leader. Great job
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