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So yea just wondering why people still use those poorly moddeled gretchins? there are like 8 different models so in a squad of 30 your seeing each three times.

I was just wondering why people dont buy a pack of 20 goblins from fantasy, give em modiffied shootas and there you go, I've never seen it done before.

i guess because they are small and dont require much care but that is soon to change as come of Jan 09 we will see the release of plastic gretchen in a box set [which i will be buying as many as my money at the time permitts] plus fantasy come with square bases and in 40k we like our round bases.

but thats just IMHO

I've given a standard gobbo a slugga before.Looked neat. Provided slightly more cover. Probably quite a good idea.

Squig_herder wrote:i guess because they are small and dont require much care but that is soon to change as come of Jan 09 we will see the release of plastic gretchen in a box set [which i will be buying as many as my money at the time permitts] plus fantasy come with square bases and in 40k we like our round bases.

but thats just IMHO

I was unawares of this 2009 upgrade - I will wait it out and concentrate on my SM until then, thanks.

NP, i cant wait to see what they do for em. i hope that a grotzooka comes out with them for me killa kanz

converting WHFB goblins isn't as easy as it sounds, getting their hands to hold guns can be a pain. I and many others are waiting for the new plastics with great anticipation (although GW haven't officially confirmed their existence yet)

If you hate the 'poorly moddeled gretchins', you may be in for partial disappointment - the supposed photos we've seen indicate that some look like direct plastic recasts of the metals. This has caused further confusion, as it's difficult to tell whether some photos really are of the new plastics at all... :(

I too want a rabble of all-different models in every unit - so long as GW aren't silly enough to give them all unchangeable poses, that should be easy enough.

I wouldn't hold out for grotzookas and other Kanz bits, but it would be reasonable to expect a few 'no weapon' and 'holding ammo' poses for weapon crews and character/vehicle upgrades

goblins from fantasy, give em modiffied shootas and there you go, I've never seen it done before.

*cough*



Yup.

Clang wrote:converting WHFB goblins isn't as easy as it sounds, getting their hands to hold guns can be a pain. I and many others are waiting for the new plastics with great anticipation (although GW haven't officially confirmed their existence yet)

If you hate the 'poorly moddeled gretchins', you may be in for partial disappointment - the supposed photos we've seen indicate that some look like direct plastic recasts of the metals. This has caused further confusion, as it's difficult to tell whether some photos really are of the new plastics at all... :(

What?
Have we seen the same pictures?

There's another thread with pics from Games Day ITALY... and it has pics of the grots ON SPRUE.
I'd say that they've "officially confirmed" them.

Also, there are links to images in that thread that show them painted... and there are a number of poses... which do NOT resemble the existing ones.

I don't think that getting the fantasy grots to hold guns is hard at all... it just looks weird, since they don't have a "trigger finger." It looks like they're about to swing the pistol like a small club. LOL


Eric

Teek wrote:

goblins from fantasy, give em modiffied shootas and there you go, I've never seen it done before.

*cough*



Yup.

Nice, they remind me of cultists lol, cultist grethen, is that even possible?

Just get some old second ed plastics, If anyone needs some shoot me a PM I have 77 collecting dust in zip-lock bag.

I use Gnoblars, they look more gretchin-like than the fantasy goblins.

Gnorblars? are they the orge kingdom things?

Squig_herder wrote:Gnorblars? are they the orge kingdom things?

Yes they are...

great idea *copy, paste and order*

Here, I did those guys about a year ago.

i dig

People probably use them because they don't require assembly and conversion. I'd hate to have to assemble and convert 60 tiny goblins with guns.

there used to be a metal ork weapon sprue it came with tiny ak-47s pistols and various guns I haven't seen that in over 7 years though.

wow those really do look like gretchen. i may have to keep that in mind

I'm even one step lower, I still use a bunch of those 2nd edition ones. I made small conversions to them in an attempt for variety but yeah.....it's like 10 million of the same guy in each unit.

I've seen a few of those goblin-grots and I don't really like them usually. I see them and instantly think fantasy. Your mileage may vary. Looking at those Gnoblars, they might be a little better.

MagickalMemories wrote:

Clang wrote:converting WHFB goblins isn't as easy as it sounds, getting their hands to hold guns can be a pain. I and many others are waiting for the new plastics with great anticipation (although GW haven't officially confirmed their existence yet)

If you hate the 'poorly moddeled gretchins', you may be in for partial disappointment - the supposed photos we've seen indicate that some look like direct plastic recasts of the metals. This has caused further confusion, as it's difficult to tell whether some photos really are of the new plastics at all... :(

What?
Have we seen the same pictures?

There's another thread with pics from Games Day ITALY... and it has pics of the grots ON SPRUE.
I'd say that they've "officially confirmed" them.

Also, there are links to images in that thread that show them painted... and there are a number of poses... which do NOT resemble the existing ones.

I don't think that getting the fantasy grots to hold guns is hard at all... it just looks weird, since they don't have a "trigger finger." It looks like they're about to swing the pistol like a small club. LOL


Eric

Yes, they showed them in a product seminar at the Chicago GT also. Very nice in my opinion.

I like the metal grotz.

My grots are 10 years old. How old are yours?

The other issue is that some people do not like converting. So using what is already made is the best and easiest choice.

Yes there may be ONLY 8 poses or something like that but come on ( I think its closer to 12 poses), who dosnt love the massive amount of Character in these guys.

8 is actually alot of poses for GW to do on a unit. These were for the Rebel Grot faction for GorkaMorka but easily transfered to 40K just add a runt hearder and Bam!


They are so cool you cnat paint just a few, besides the fact you need loads of them to be worth fielding. The new sculpts are not as detailed at these metal ones and the to are STATIC poses! You can swap heads but thats it, so dont go thinking the new ones are goin to be too much different. I bet you dont get 8 poses in the new ones!

I'll stick with my 50 older ones!

see i just dont like the repitition, the gnoblars are pretty convincing, sure goblin fanatics probally arn't the best way to go, maybe just normal regiment, and the shields work well as glyphs.

@RGJ798

I think they may have been ranked up like that for comedianical purposes!?!?
When mixed up they look fine!

they look fine if mixed up.

But to be honest the new gretchen plastic pack has stolen me heart and im getting 9 boxes of them ^^ i love gretchen

squig, how many are in each box?
i need 180 gretchin and 18 slavers -_-

rumour has it that it will have 10 gretchen and one runtherder with squig for $30AU but there is the possibility that you might be able to buy a special set when it comes out to have 30 gretchen and 3 runtherders for as little as $60AU but those are just rumours ^^

so im looking at around £15 for 10 and a slaver.
or £30 for 30 and a 3 slavers.

so, anywhere between £180 - £270
not bad i guess

then add 9 kanz to that an it starts getting alot worse XD