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Hey guys, just got a unit of these buggers completed. When i first saw the scout bikes i thought 'gotta make a rough rider unit outta these guys one day', so here i am. They where good fun to build, annoying to paint (expensive to boot). However i'm glad to have the unit in my army now, hopefully it will be a characterful addition to my forces when i play games.

C&C welcomed.





Also if any of you remember the orange baneblade, its finally completed (largely).

Very, very cool. I was expecting to seem some nifty horse-painting in here. I was pleasantly surprised to see bikes instead.

Finish basing them!!!



Ghidorah

Good idea on the RRs. Tank looks great!

I remember seeing that orange baneblade and thinking...
"Oh.... not what I expected.. but it's super cool!"

What stats do you use for the Rough Riders?

mDaro wrote:What stats do you use for the Rough Riders?

Oh, I don't know... maybe... Rough Rider stats? Just a hunch.



Ghidorah

I would just like to add:

Upon further inspection of your Rough Riders, I noticed your edge lining highlights. The subdued, subtle application of the highlight is fantastic. Brilliant, really.
Most people tend to get carried away with edge lining highlights and the models end up looking like something out of Tron...








Your selection of edges to highlight and your restraint in applying the lines is to be commended.




NO GET TO BASING THEM!!!



Ghidorah

Oh, I don't know... maybe... Rough Rider stats? Just a hunch.


Space Marine scout bike is 30 points, a rough rider is 8 points.......Rough Riders get a special assault move of 12" as well as moving 12".

If someone plunked these down at 8 points a pop and claimed them to be Rough Riders, I'd pack my army back up.

Once again, what stats are you using for them at your local shop (points, movement, assault, toughness value).

I see no twin linked weapons so are you just using them in place of the horses and not using any bike rules for them?

BTW.....they are great looking models. I like the guard color scheme also.

Good paint job.

mDaro wrote:Oh, I don't know... maybe... Rough Rider stats? Just a hunch.


Space Marine scout bike is 30 points, a rough rider is 8 points.......Rough Riders get a special assault move of 12" as well as moving 12".

If someone plunked these down at 8 points a pop and claimed them to be Rough Riders, I'd pack my army back up.

Once again, what stats are you using for them at your local shop (points, movement, assault, toughness value).

I see no twin linked weapons so are you just using them in place of the horses and not using any bike rules for them?

Are you being serious?! He stated those are rough riders, which are IG not SM. Id assume since only IG can play them, that his army would be all IG and not SM.
Id laugh my ass off you someone stomped off complaining after putting those on the table. Besides thats clearly IG on there and not scouts

ALSO OT Those are pretty sweet man. I too was expecting ponies and the guys with weird hats on them. Nice change there

they're awesome! are you doing any with Hunting Lances too?

mDaro wrote:Oh, I don't know... maybe... Rough Rider stats? Just a hunch.


Space Marine scout bike is 30 points, a rough rider is 8 points.......Rough Riders get a special assault move of 12" as well as moving 12".

If someone plunked these down at 8 points a pop and claimed them to be Rough Riders, I'd pack my army back up.

Once again, what stats are you using for them at your local shop (points, movement, assault, toughness value).

I see no twin linked weapons so are you just using them in place of the horses and not using any bike rules for them?

Thus why I remind myself why you have to be picky about who you play this game with...

They look great, I do agree hunting lances! That would be AWESOME!

mDaro wrote:


Space Marine scout bike is 30 points, a rough rider is 8 points.......Rough Riders get a special assault move of 12" as well as moving 12".

Rough Riders move 6" BTW.

If someone plunked these down at 8 points a pop and claimed them to be Rough Riders, I'd pack my army back up.

Why? They're about the same size, have Guardsmen o nthem...WTF?!

I see no twin linked weapons so are you just using them in place of the horses and not using any bike rules for them?

Thread titles are soooooo useful. If someone reads them.


Great models, why no lances or equivalents?

Looks good, I especially like the orange baneblade. The orange came out very well, but it could use something to break up the color a bit in places. I would drill out or put black circles in the center of the smoke launcher tubes as they look like solid tubes of metal. Also, I notice that you have no hunting lance equivalent, it would be best to have that represented as I'm pretty sure they will be mandatory in the new book. Hopefully rough riders will still be able to choose what they are armed with, lasguns or just laspistol+ccw or whatever, but rumors suggest otherwise.

@mDaro...
I don't see what the problem is. He uses them as imperial guard rough riders, as suggested by the thread title, and I think we can safely assume that he uses imperial guard rough rider rules. Using bikes in place of horses is probably the most alternative to horses for rough riders, in fact one GW staff member did a conversion very similar to this for his army that was featured online in the conversion corner a while back, so I think you are alone with being upset by this "counts as" conversion.

Hmm.... now lets see some space marines on horses!

Needs Lances as the Lances are mandatory in the new book.

What can I say other than "Stealth and subtlety like we need camouflage in a Baneblade." The rough riders look great as well.

looks nice but beware the black legion aproches to take the false emporer to his grave

Spacewolverine wrote:

mDaro wrote:Oh, I don't know... maybe... Rough Rider stats? Just a hunch.


Space Marine scout bike is 30 points, a rough rider is 8 points.......Rough Riders get a special assault move of 12" as well as moving 12".

If someone plunked these down at 8 points a pop and claimed them to be Rough Riders, I'd pack my army back up.

Once again, what stats are you using for them at your local shop (points, movement, assault, toughness value).

I see no twin linked weapons so are you just using them in place of the horses and not using any bike rules for them?

Thus why I remind myself why you have to be picky about who you play this game with...

They look great, I do agree hunting lances! That would be AWESOME!

Don't worry I'm sure I would never even ask you to play. I like have fun and because I'm a new player I ask a lot of questions because I don't know the rules inside and out. Your obvious one of the elitest jerks that think when people ask questions to that they are being an ass and trying tog et something over on you. Don't worry about avoiding me, I won't even ask people like you to play.

Nurgleboy77 wrote:

mDaro wrote:


Space Marine scout bike is 30 points, a rough rider is 8 points.......Rough Riders get a special assault move of 12" as well as moving 12".

Rough Riders move 6" BTW.

If someone plunked these down at 8 points a pop and claimed them to be Rough Riders, I'd pack my army back up.

Why? They're about the same size, have Guardsmen o nthem...WTF?!

I see no twin linked weapons so are you just using them in place of the horses and not using any bike rules for them?

Thread titles are soooooo useful. If someone reads them.


Great models, why no lances or equivalents?

Once again, bikes have differant rules then rough rider horses. Is there anyone here willing to answer question for new people that are actually interested in the game or all you all here to insult people who don't know any better?

I think I'll stay over at the Waaaagh forums. They actually answer questions for new people over there without the insults.

Way to promote the hobby and your forums!

was he crying? did you mean people make him cry? shame, shame!

mDaro wrote:

Once again, bikes have differant rules then rough rider horses. Is there anyone here willing to answer question for new people that are actually interested in the game or all you all here to insult people who don't know any better?

He said they were Rough Riders, who ride horses. Not that great a stretch of the imagination, since IG havbe no Bike units. (this is me, answering your question).

I think I'll stay over at the Waaaagh forums. They actually answer questions for new people over there without the insults.

Go where you want, you were never insulted, idiot (this is me insulting you). You were the one opening hostilities by declaring

If someone plunked these down at 8 points a pop and claimed them to be Rough Riders, I'd pack my army back up.

Thereby saying that someone who has gone through the effort to make cool models for his RR (one that is fairly common if you look around a bit) is obviously cheating somehow and you wouldn't ever play against such a mean cheaty-cheat-cheat. The proverbially childish "I'm taking my toys and going home!"

Way to promote the hobby and your forums!

Defended a member's cool idea (check), answered (corrected) a question for a newcomer (check), pointed out how the thread itself answered his repeated question (check). Yes, I guess I am doing a great job of it, huh?

@Platuan4th:

Say what? Hunting lances compulsory in the new codex?

They better make them worth taking then.

Cool bikes though.
I have mine on smaller trailbikes (scaled to a guardsman).

Wow...the orange Baneblade really pops.

@chromedog
so far they're saying the Hunting Lance stayed the same.

Wow, that's a big orange tank. Great job on the RRs - if I do any for my army, that's what I'm going to do (although I plan on using Sentinel Driver heads for mine.)

The bikes are really ugly without the front shield - you really need to put that on. Just trim of the sides to either side of the headlight, and it'll look fine.

mDaro wrote:

Nurgleboy77 wrote:

mDaro wrote:
Space Marine scout bike is 30 points, a rough rider is 8 points.......Rough Riders get a special assault move of 12" as well as moving 12".

Rough Riders move 6" BTW.

If someone plunked these down at 8 points a pop and claimed them to be Rough Riders, I'd pack my army back up.

Why? They're about the same size, have Guardsmen o nthem...WTF?!

I see no twin linked weapons so are you just using them in place of the horses and not using any bike rules for them?

Thread titles are soooooo useful. If someone reads them.


Great models, why no lances or equivalents?

Once again, bikes have differant rules then rough rider horses. Is there anyone here willing to answer question for new people that are actually interested in the game or all you all here to insult people who don't know any better?

I think I'll stay over at the Waaaagh forums. They actually answer questions for new people over there without the insults.

Way to promote the hobby and your forums!

Stop being such a crybaby. You were the whiner who said if you saw these models you'd just pack up and go, despite the fact there is absolutely no difference between rough riders on a horse, and rough riders on a bike. That rubbed a lot of people the wrong way, since you were saying you wouldn't play this army, just because you didn't like the way it looked.

Cheers for the overwhelming show of support guys, its really uplifting. Time was you'd never see such questioning but i accept times are changing. To answer you question mDaro i'll simply be using these as normal Imperial Guard Rough Riders, using their stats. I won't be using any 'special' biker rules or a combination of scout and guardsmen rules, or anything of the like. Just the Imperial Guard rough rider rules. I realise there might be some discrepancy in the use of horse/beast rules in exchange for bikes but since there are no other bike units in the Imperial Guard codex i'm hoping it won't cause to much confusion.

@Ghidorah: I appreciate the comment Ghidorah, made my day. Please don't hurt me if it takes a while to base them....

@chromedog: Apparently so, according to my warhammer hyper induced friend. I'd like to see those rough riders as well! I always love to see other people's take on the Imperial Guard.

@ph34r: I agree i need something to break up the orange but i'm afraid i'll ruin it and do a crummy job trying to do some fancy pattern :p.

@Fiendcrackar!: Wow, now that would be a sight to see.

Now, since the issue of hunting lances have been raised by many of you i'm considering painting up the front panels and adding in the grenade launchers which come with the scout bikers. I was going to rationalise the grenade launchers as a special 2 shot, close range weapon. In contrast to the usual hunting lances. The '2 shots' representing their attacks.

That makes a lot of sense to me. Just remember to tell people when you put them down on the board.