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http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2009/04/22/man_tries_to_rob_dry_cleaners_with_sword/

Man tries to rob dry cleaners with sword
April 22, 2009
Email| Print| Single Page| Yahoo! Buzz| ShareThisText size – + Police said a man dressed liked a ninja used a sword in an attempt to rob a Weymouth dry cleaner. According to police, a convenience store clerk called police Monday after she noticed a man walking into the store wearing a ski mask and a sword in a sheath on his belt. Police said that when the man noticed her, he pulled his mask off and asked whether she was calling about him. When she said she was, the man left the store and walked into nearby Galaxy Cleaners. There, he pointed a sword at the register and asked a clerk to give him all of the money, police said. He left after she told him she couldn't open the drawer. Police are still searching for the man, who witnesses said appeared to be in his late 20s. (AP)

Hah, sounds like someone who watches too much anime or is too much of a cheapo to buy a gun.

maybe he just hit up a flea market beforehand due to a lack of funds.

i'm fairly certain you can walk into a flea market with 20 bucks, some bottlecaps, and an old lynard skynard cassette tape and walk back out with enough stuff to fill the trunk of a car

mcfly wrote:Hah, sounds like someone who watches too much anime or is too much of a cheapo to buy a gun.

Try to use a gun when I'm hacking the gak out of you with a sword.

Warhammer teaches you nothing about fighting hand-to-hand.

Feel the wrath of the butt of my pistol!

I beg to differ. I myself purchased a realistic sword and buckler shield from Britain. I have been practicing with them for over a year now. I can even cut through slabs of solid iron with my sword.

Ever wondered why the modern military never bothers to go back in time and fight the English? That's right, because they are too scared of the footmen and their mighty swords. Even if they did go back in time, they would target the men with swords first because their killing power is feared and respected.

My shield can protect me from a 9mm bullet, and I can charge effectively enough to smack down any gun-toting spanker.

tl;dr: Guns aren't as great as you think.

I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that.

We English solved the guns vs swords problem during the Jacobite rebellion of 1745-6, as was proved at the Battle of Culloden.

meh, english made swords arent that bad, but the standard katana is of much higher quality due to the amount of times the steel has been folded.
not only does it have a longer blade, its also lighter, sharper, and its in perfect balance.

i guess he just wanted to make a name for himself

Was also a lot thinner than a British Sword.

Take the trademark of Medieval - Jacobean Scottish Hooligans, the Claymore. Far less about slashing, thrusting, gashing and lacerating, far more about pulverising the area struck.

Plus the Europeans, unlike the Japanese, figured out metal makes much better armour than cloth, Bamboo and poncyness

And to be honest, I'm far more inclined to obey someone than a sword, than a wuss with a gun. Wrestle a pistol or shotgun type, and as long as you are fast enough and push the barrell away before it fires, instead of after, you have a decent chance. But a sword? Bugger that!

Guns for show, knives for a pro!

(cue Frazzled gibbering about not bringing a knife to a gun fight. Hasn't he seen Starship Troopers? THE ENEMY CANNOT PRESS THE BUTTON, IF HIS HAND HAS BEEN DISABLED! MEDIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIC!)

doc, claymores are prety much hammers with longer reach :p

great, thier armour isnt the the best, still didnt stop them causing fear in anyone who went against them.
who needs armour when you are able to use a sword to such a high skill?
armour made from metal would simply slow them down.

so a speed advantage, weight advantage, quality advantage and skill advantage, they are the most elite troops of thier time.

Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:Was also a lot thinner than a British Sword.

Take the trademark of Medieval - Jacobean Scottish Hooligans, the Claymore. Far less about slashing, thrusting, gashing and lacerating, far more about pulverising the area struck.

Plus the Europeans, unlike the Japanese, figured out metal makes much better armour than cloth, Bamboo and poncyness

And to be honest, I'm far more inclined to obey someone than a sword, than a wuss with a gun. Wrestle a pistol or shotgun type, and as long as you are fast enough and push the barrell away before it fires, instead of after, you have a decent chance. But a sword? Bugger that!

Guns for show, knives for a pro!

(cue Frazzled gibbering about not bringing a knife to a gun fight. Hasn't he seen Starship Troopers? THE ENEMY CANNOT PRESS THE BUTTON, IF HIS HAND HAS BEEN DISABLED! MEDIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIC!)

You are so wrong MDG. See, as a proper Texan and Girl Scout (yes, Girl Scout YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT!!!! ) I am always prepared. The box O goodies includes a nice scimitar, long sword, Civil War cavalry blade, Chinese staright sword, Tonfas, escrima sticks, buck knife and hatchet. My boy has a full range of mallets and sticks and Genghis Connie of course has the Mongol horde grazing in the back 40. As such I am fully prepared to meet the following persons on their own field: Turks, French knights, Yankee cav, Mongols, Samurai Ronin, band directors, and Comanche/Kiowa raiders. Plus I have a sonic cannon for annoying neighbor pets who keep barking. Come on doggie, one step closer...WUMP!

You are sooo wrong!!

Guns are so much better than swords!!
A big fancy, twenty times folded steel stick won't rescue you from the good old sniper who is sniping at you some 500 meters away.
Unless you are capable of throwing a sword that far, you won't have a chance against it.
That's why all our armies stopped using sword and axes and whatever else there is and started using guns because you could shoot from a safe, long distance
instead of walking to the enemy to and start hacking at him.



And don't start whinning about deflecting bullets with a katana, this isn't Star Wars!!
in the real world, people who swing with blades are always shot by a guy with a gun before the so-called knight can even touch the shooter

Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:Wrestle a pistol or shotgun type, and as long as you are fast enough and push the barrell away before it fires, instead of after, you have a decent chance.

Alan: Well last week, we showed you how to become a gynaecologist. And this week on "How to Do It" we're going to show you how to play the flute, how to split an atom, how to construct a box girder bridge, how to irrigate the Sahara Desert and make vast new areas of land cultivatable, but first, here's Jackie to tell you all how to rid the world of all known diseases.
Jackie: Hello, Alan.
Alan: Hello, Jackie.
Jackie: Well, first of all, become a doctor and discover a marvellous cure for something, and then, when the medical profession really starts to take notice of you, you can jolly well tell them what to do and make sure they get everything right so there'll never be any diseases ever again.
Alan: Thanks, Jackie, great idea. How to play the flute.
[produces a flute]
Alan: Well here we are. You blow there and you move your fingers up and down here.
Noel: Great, great, Alan. Well, next week we'll be showing you how black and white people can live together in peace and harmony, and Alan will be over in Moscow showing us how to reconcile the Russians and the Chinese. So until next week, cheerio!

Insert obligatory my gun is faster than your knife here

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JD21290 wrote:doc, claymores are prety much hammers with longer reach :p

great, thier armour isnt the the best, still didnt stop them causing fear in anyone who went against them.
who needs armour when you are able to use a sword to such a high skill?
armour made from metal would simply slow them down.

so a speed advantage, weight advantage, quality advantage and skill advantage, they are the most elite troops of thier time.

Bogus arguments.

Europeans had : Armour advantage, Equipment advantage (shields are really really really good for protecting yourself), swords are swords, skill advantage against a medieval knight is dubious at best (we simply don't know enough about the training), speed is dubious as well. Weight and reach advantage are to the Europeans.

European Knight > Samurai

Orkeosaurus wrote:European Knight > Samurai

Some peasant with Arqebus = pwons both.

Yep.

Longbowmen would be nasty too.

Agreed longbowmen would pwon all three. Now imagine if the longbowman had a proper recurved compound bow. Thwump thwump thwump!

i think ill bring in a cheeper less technical idea into this equasion.... a bow...... or a long bow...... yes you would look like a complete twazzoc, but so would they with a 4ft arrow through there head....

DAMN YOU!!!!!! someone beat me 2 it...

Let us all learn from Genghis Connie's new Mongol hordes thwump thwump thwump thwump THWUMP!

There is soooo much AWESOME in this thread

im just gona spam some more....

JD21290 wrote:doc, claymores are prety much hammers with longer reach :p

great, thier armour isnt the the best, still didnt stop them causing fear in anyone who went against them.
who needs armour when you are able to use a sword to such a high skill?
armour made from metal would simply slow them down.

so a speed advantage, weight advantage, quality advantage and skill advantage, they are the most elite troops of thier time.

just a small note... they have practicaly disproved the usefullness of claymores, sorry to disapoint, but they were more a ceramonial thing than anything else. unless the goy was a tank...(like the people in the strongest man contest) then it would be a bit silly, too much follow through, and if you were in steel armour, and you fell over you wouldnt get back up very easly with your claymore,

wow i speek some ammount of crap dont i,

European Knight > Samurai

Yeah but 14 year old boy with long sharp pointy stick beats Knight

has anyone brought up trowing knifes yet? or what about ninja stars..... there allways good,

but then again, you could take up the old fassioned way of smacking there head with a stone.... or your hand...

beg to differ. I myself purchased a realistic sword and buckler shield from Britain. I have been practicing with them for over a year now. I can even cut through slabs of solid iron with my sword.

Ever wondered why the modern military never bothers to go back in time and fight the English? That's right, because they are too scared of the footmen and their mighty swords. Even if they did go back in time, they would target the men with swords first because their killing power is feared and respected.

My shield can protect me from a 9mm bullet, and I can charge effectively enough to smack down any gun-toting spanker.

tl;dr: Guns aren't as great as you think.

So over the course of a year's training you've gotten good enough to use a buckler and sword enough to cut slabs of solid iron?

In one week I could train someone with a rifle to shoot a man sized target from 500 yds. So in the year it took you to learn all your fancy sword stuff I could train 52 people to do even better.

Your shield isn't going to protect you from a rifle, and weilding a sword and shield you most likely would be tired after charging 30+ yards.

Let's face it, guns are the greatest individual weapon a man can carry in his hands.

Not if you get caught by surprise.
You have to stop and cock your gun or reload it. I don't have to reload my sword.

Of course, clever people like me build a small handgun into the hilt of the sword.

And bucklers are really light. They're quite small TBH.

meh, go with the gunblade then
standard S&W magnuim built into the hilt of a sword, best of both worlds

standard S&W magnuim built into the hilt of a sword, best of both worlds

If gun blade's are so great why haven't any of them been deployed in a war, ever?

If anything the gun blade was more a novelty than anything that was actually used to great effect.

And M-16 > S&W .357 mag