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So, I can't read a Codex to save my life. Scroll down for the actual, correct list.

Im pretty sure your Sternguard only COUNT AS scoring units and you will still need the Compulsory 2 Troops to go with Kantor.

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Sadly that is true.

Drop a unit of Sternguard and split one of the units up into 2 5man squads with seperate pods also give the 5 man squads as many combi-meltas as you can get in.

2 Tac Squads with Melta/Missile Launcher should be sufficient, no point in paying for a weapon that even when you have podded in won't be used for a couple of turns.

Any remaining points can be spent on a librarian to gate the big unit around and Kantor go with the small unit of sternguard to augment it.

Or depending on remaining points an Ironclad in a pod and a cheap master of the forge with a power weapon in a unit or something.

Outflanking scouts with shotguns and a heavy bolter are also worth looking into, they provide a cheap amount of firepower on the move and can score, can be used to secure an objective that the sternguard have wiped clear.

Bah. I am far, far too used to Nob Biker. Damn.

Well, that won't be too hard to fix.

I can toss in a Tac Squad and trim the Sternguard to two units, with maybe a Scout Squad to squat on the homefront.

REVISED LIST:

HQ:
Pedro Kantor
[175]

Elites:
(10) Sternguard
w/ Power Fist, 4x Combi-Melta, 3x Combi-Flamer
Drop Pod
[345]

(5) Sternguard
w/ Power Fist, 5x Combi-Melta
Drop Pod
[210]

(5) Sternguard
w/ Power Fist, 5x Combi-Melta
Drop Pod
[210]

Troops:
(10) Tactical Squad
w/ Flamer, Multimelta, Power Fist
Drop Pod
[230]

(10) Tactical Squad
w/ Flamer, Multimelta, Power Fist
Drop Pod
[230]

Fast Attack:
2x Attack Bikes
w/ Multimelta
[100]

[1500]

Look better? Look competative?

Sternguard being my favorite unit ever I can't be really objective about it but I like it.
I think you'll be having really hard time vs hordes and 3 combi-flamers aren't going to help a lot.
Mobility armies will also be a pain.
I would drop the power fists to maybe add another attack-bike or a whirlwind.

eh, mobile armies should be more or les crippled after 14 combimeltas land right next to their mobility (tanks) and melt them all.

I would take 6x combimeltas in the 10 man SG unit, so you can combat squad and still have 3 combimeltas per CS (3 melta shots at 6" range should average a dead tank of any armor value).

The Attack Bikes feel pretty out of place to me, and I feel like you should find something anti-horde in place of them (you have enough melta/AT fire coming out of the pods that the MMs on the attack bikes feel redundant).

You could consider dropping the bikes for a Librarian with Gate and Null Zone, and then trying to find 10 points for a locator beacon on one of the SG pods. The Lib rolls with the big unit (if it combat squads it picks one of the CSs and stays with them) and uses Gate to bounce around the pod so they can stay out of prolonged combats and keep shooting for longer since the guns are their strength (even with Kantors +1 attack bubble the bolter rounds are quite good).

I'm starting to have success versus hordes with a similar list. The main difference is I use two 10-man Sternguard squads and 3 10-man Tactical squads. Just focus fire on one side of the horde and you'll be fine.

You may want replace the attack bikes with an Assault squad to help out when you stuck in CC.

Well, I can't really afford an Assault Squad for the price of the Bikes, but I can add in a Librarian. I can always give that a chance, because it sounds like a solid plan. The Combi-Weapon Configs can be swapped out as I need, since it is all the same point costs. For Hordes, I could run a pair of Landspeeders with Heavy Flamers and MM, giving me anti-Horde and anti-Armor. Thoughts?

That could work. Besides those Attack Bikes will likely die from first turn shooting. Taking Land Speeder's will allow you to keep everything in reserve and Deep Strike them in.

I love attack bikes

I love pedro

I love power fist sergeants close to pedro

I don't know if you really need combi-flamers. I know they put out better than the dragonfire rounds in the right spots, and if you've got play experience that makes you like them, then keep going for it.

I also feel like those attack bikes might be out of position and not screened very well in this particular list.

I might just swap them out for a thunderfire cannon straight up.

Is your list competitive? Absolutely. Only problem you are going to have is landing right next to horde orks. That's why I'm suggesting the Tfire.

And you don't have to deploy in the drop pod, right? Remember that they do have a 30" range shot, so that is an option.

I like the list because it is similar to what I am doing :-p I have to admit that I am a combat squad junkie, so I would probably just end up have 2 squads of 10. Also, power fists are awesomely flavorful for Crimson Fists. Since I started playing them I have sworn to say "prepare to be Fisted" before every game which is a bit... awkward and the inclusion of power fists makes it a little more legit.

I like the way the list looks and I will swap out those Combi-Flamers for more Meltas, since the dragonfire rounds are close enough to that anyhow (just seems like the template can put out more wounds total, but its such a short range).

Does the TFire Cannon really work? Seriously? Other than that, I might try a small squad of Scouts just to hold objectives or tie down units. Not sure what.

How are you planning on using DPA? All 10 man squads first, then the rest of the sternguard?

I think all of the points tied up in power fists are a complete waste. Sternguard aren't made for assault, and neither are regular tac marines.

Pedro isn't very survivable at all in close combat, and the squad he is in looks like it's made for use with combat squads, which hurts his survivability even more.

I've had a lot of fun running a 10 man sternguard unit with Lysander attached, with a bunch of combi-meltas. Lysander twin links their bolters, and gives the unit a lot of survivability.

With the upcoming IG codex hurting reserve based armies a lot, I don't think so many drop pods is the way to go (I would probably only use 1, at most around 3).

DPA will vary depending on the enemy, of course. I might drop the Tac Squads down on objectives or drop the Sternguard in against a hard target, etc. It always varies, though. Since I get three Pods, I have a lot of options.

Power Fists are never a waste. Ever. Nothing ties down a unit like a Dread or something nasty. You want to take it out, a PFist is the way to do it. I would hate my expensive Sternguard to buy it to a Dread when a PFist gives them a shot to get away.

Pedro can go anywhere with any group, including a Tac Squad. Just depends on where I want to attach him.

I don't see how Drop Pod armies are hurt by IG. Even with a modifier against my reserve, I still get 3 Pods first turn. That means up to 4 Dead Tanks (Combat Squad w/ 2 smaller Sternguards shooting Meltas). That is a hurting on IG, no matter how you slice it.

Anyone playing mech is going to hold everything in reserve t1, so that's no dead tanks while you have ~30 marines standing on the board without transports.

They still need to take objectives, which means coming and digging me out. This is where strategy stops and tactics take over, really. I am armed to deal with Mechanized forces, so if they close, I can still move in and blow up tanks, as well as pummel infantry. If all else fails, I can always swap each Drop Pod for a Rhino, if the whole DPA thing stops working for me.

@mnop I have used thunderfire cannons in the last few games I have played with Sternguard lists and they are actually pretty good and if you have a ranged Sternguard unit (I have a combat squad that I give 2 lascannons as a mini-dev squad) then you fortify the ruin that they start the game in which gives them a nice 3+ cover save. In objective games I typically will put one of the objectives in or near that area.

So, this is what I have right now:

HQ:
Pedro Kantor
[175]

Elites:
(10) Sternguard
w/ Power Fist, 7x Combi-Melta
Drop Pod
[345]

(5) Sternguard
w/ Power Fist, 5x Combi-Melta
Drop Pod
[210]

(5) Sternguard
w/ Power Fist, 5x Combi-Melta
Drop Pod
[210]

Troops:
(10) Tactical Squad
w/ Flamer, Multimelta, Power Fist
Drop Pod
[230]

(10) Tactical Squad
w/ Flamer, Multimelta, Power Fist
Drop Pod
[230]

[1400]

I have 100pts left and it can go into a Librarian (Null? Gate? Dome?) or a Thunderfire Cannon. If I drop four Combis, I can get a trio of Heavy Bolter Attack Bikes, instead.

Thoughts?

Keep the combis. I really think a Librarian is great with Sternguard, but you'll want to find points for at least one locator beacon for Gate to key off of. If you do take a Librarian I'd give him Gate and Nullzone. Avenger and Force Dome are also worth considering though.

Have you had much luck with Force Dome? The timing of it being the same as Gate kind of kills it for me, since you can only do one thing at the "start" of the phase.

Just wondering, How would you deal with a large infantry / armor force that decides to use their less valuable infantry units to prevent you from deepstriking in melta range of thier armor? Ideal example being IG. Using tanks against board edge and then infantry radiating out, preventing a deep strike insertion close enough to do damage.

Using that tactic would be very "hit or miss" for the Guard player. Once you deep strike you shoot at either the troops or the tank. Next turn you assault the troops if they didn't assault you already. Since you cannot shoot through CC the tanks may not be able to do much until the CC has finished.

They are going to have enough infantry to block every approach to a tank up to 12" away? That would be interesting to see. Also, I can always use the Pods as cover for the smaller units of Sternguard or just shoot up their infantry. Or, I can deploy behind the Pod and run to get as much cover as I can or block LOS, then next turn advance, shoot, and assault.

Maybe I've missunderstood Deep Strike, I was under the impression that you can't land your units within 1" of an enemy model. With 2" unit coherancy and the fact that all your models Deep Striking in need to be at least 1" away. You can effectivly shield the tanks by clustering them and then using 1 infantry platoon of 35 or so guys to block off 1 round melta shots, and keep multi melta to 1D6 ArP

Placing the tanks against the board edge lets you also start your infantry wall 2" from the edge. If the Deep strike tries to land in that 1" corridor (suicide) they will likely be denied all models or scatter off the board. so to protect say 2 Leman Russ Battle Tanks

4 models is all it takes at max unit coherancy to project a 12" zone for no deep strike with a 3" width (taking model base to be 1" plus the 1" to each side)

If you wanted to do it with less models you could do a grid pattern with some of the filler infantry missing. This WOULD allow you to Deep Strike into the small gap 1" x3" or so if you did it right, but whatever models couldn't fit would be lost.

Well reguardless, I think the easy answer would be to take a dreadnaught or two with lascannon.

So, I just place the objectives in the center of the table. They can castle, but can they take the objectives? Also, Drop Pods are nice for cover for the turn they come in on. The next turn, I shoot and assault.

Tigurious is your friend, little spehs mahreen

Any further C&C? I am still weighing on which list I want to pursue, because I only have so much money to spend and I want to make it count. Does this list look competative?

I think that the list looks decent - here is the quick checklist I do with my lists -

1. Do I have tools to deal with hordes?
2. Do I have tools to deal with mech?
3. Do I have tools to grab 3-5 objectives?
4. Do I have tools to deal with CC army?

1. Shooting, ideally. A few Flamers.
2. Tons of Meltas.
3. Combat Squad.
4. Shooting, ideally.

My big weakness seems like CC armies.

Seem about right?

Yep, seems about right, time to enter the playtest/revise phase.