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[DCM]
Gun Mage






New Hampshire, USA

Short in stature, but big in heart is the theme of Ep. 31 as we review Munchkin & Small World in detail. Fans have asked how does Munchkin compare to Cutthroat Caverns, so the D6G Team answers this question in particular. We then dive into Small World, the latest game from Days of Wonder.

All that and our usual 'not too horrible' humor, with features such as:


- Rapid Fire
- The Hollywood Minute
- When Wives Attack
- The Score
- & More



Check out the episode here:
http://thed6generation.libsyn.com/index.php?post_id=477424


Please let us know what you think!







Link to prior episode thread:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/238314.page

This message was edited 5 times. Last update was at 2009/05/28 05:06:37


 
   
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Sneaky Kommando





New York City

Great job, Craig! Russ, you could've done better.

Viva la Raef-olution!

   
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Crazed Wardancer





United Kingdom

Hi guys, did you do anything different with the recording or compression this time? Im getting a bunch of faint digital artifacts and echoes in the background. It's not my headphones cos I've tried two different pairs. Very odd.



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Made in us
[DCM]
Gun Mage






New Hampshire, USA

fitzeh wrote:Hi guys, did you do anything different with the recording or compression this time? Im getting a bunch of faint digital artifacts and echoes in the background. It's not my headphones cos I've tried two different pairs. Very odd.


No, nothing different. In fact I thought the sound was a bit better this time around. I didn't hear any wierdness. Has anyone else heard anything funky?

Is it a particular segment or the whole show?

 
   
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Average Orc Boy




Wales

Wow weird sounds. Maybe there is a D6 G ghost?......

 
   
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Dark Angels Neophyte Undergoing Surgeries




Virginia Beach, Virginia

I heard one quick digital 'chop' noise, which sounded like either a tiny fragment of the sound was dropped or edited together, but I'm only about 40 min in.

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Fresh-Faced New User



Chicagoland

The Fifth Dentist Report: Feedback to Episode 31

First, I want to make a comment about the rampant and out-of-control hate for Russ in this episode. It's really detracting from the show, and it's beneath any podcast host to need to handle their personal grievances on the air. It's unprofessional, and I can't believe we've been subjected to this needless lather over real show content.


*pause*


I -want- to make that completely ridiculous comment, mostly to point out to Craig that it isn't a one-way street. If he's gonna suffer because we fans take him too seriously from time to time, he has to know that he's probably taking US fans too seriously from time to time. But the show served as an unintentionally VIVID demonstration of how blank, banal and utterly uninteresting that entertainment media and life in general would be if more people listened to the starkly tiny minority (which Craig described in Didja) that Dave Barry refers to as the humor-impaired. The rest of us people - you know, real actual HUMANS - really appreciate all types of humor from soft and fluffy to hard and razor-sharp. Please, gentlemen - I reaffirm Craig's Didja with a hue and a cry. Don't dilute yourselves based on the words of the ranting few. Don't let the bastages get you down. (My favorite headline from that movie - "DA Dies in Beer Commercial".)

Craig: Dang. I almost made you run out of breath. I bet it was only six words away. Arrgh! Defeated! My record vs. hosts is now 1-1.

All: While I'm always glad to hear intelligent discussion on games, it was a breath of fresh air after last episode's WM discussion (of which I can only participate academically) to get a double-play of board/card game coverage! One of the best parts of the d6 Generation is how you guys mix it up between all the different tabletop game types to give each of us gamers out there a chance to share in the conversation.

To Dann May: AWESOME artwork! I can safely speak for all the d6G community - we'll be glad to have that as a symbol of our community. Well-done, and I hope it rightly brings more attention and income to your door.

Craig: *ahem*

"Yestergame"

Yestergame,
All my rolls seemed so high away,
Now it looks as though they're low to stay,
Oh, I believe in yestergame.

Suddenly,
I'm not half level I used to be,
There's a kobold hanging *over* me,
Oh, yestergame came suddenly.

Why it
Made its save I don't know, I couldn't slay.
I played,
Something wrong, now I long for yestergame.

Yestergame,
Kill was such a power word to say,
Now I'm in a total Tee Pee Kay,
Oh, I believe in yestergame.

Why it
Made its save I don't know, I couldn't slay.
I played,
Something wrong, now I long for yestergame.

Yestergame,
Kill was such a power word to say,
Now I'm in a total Tee Pee Kay,
Oh, I believe in yestergame.

Re Munchkin: This is a great introduction to a venerable comedy game. One note - for both balance and content reasons, going through the loot deck and finding the Kneepads of Allure is worthwhile. Please consider whether or not this card should be in your deck - it's sorta tough to explain to your kids, and it is probably the single most disruptive item in the game, IMNSHO.

Hand size checks are mostly for if there was a big treasure haul. It basically reflects the fact that you can only stuff so much loot in your pockets before the party gets to see what the monster was carrying. Mostly during the game, you won't save that many cards.

HD: I've played Munchkin with EIGHT players. Didn't say we finished, just that I played.

All: The artist, by the way, is John Kovalic. Credit where credit is due - Mr. Kovalic has given Steve Jackson Games a real golden goose.

Raef: Do you NOT know the Gazebo joke? Go here right away.

http://www.netfunny.com/rhf/jokes/98/Jul/gazebo.html

A classic gamer humor story, for either Raef or for the fans who don't know it.

HD, Craig: For Munchkin, "character creation" is mostly like the first-ever system for D&D. 3d6, no rerolls, no choosing what goes in what order. So the no-choice on race-class at the beginning mostly reflects that you rolled an 18 strength and are playing a warrior, regardless of whether or not you wanted to play a thief.

*pause*

(This is a rather transparent rationalization for what is a somewhat minor flaw in a very light card game. You want to start as an Elven Wizard? Why don't you? Try it with each player drawing skipping random draws from the door deck to go through it and pick the one race and/or class of their choice. It's not like it matters. Maybe don't allow starting Elves.)

Russ: Spot-on note on the value of Munchkin as a card-based comic more than a game for the serious gamer. If you remember Phil Foglio's game Xxxenophile, the rules said "Okay, open your starter and look through your cards. Congratulations! You just won your first game of solitaire Xxxenophile." And while Xxxenophile isn't exactly a game to share with wives and friends, Munchkin is TOTALLY a game that a non-gamer can get into. As I said in a prior 5DR - there are a few people I know that only game when it's Munchkin. It's as much a gateway game as Ticket to Ride or Carcassonne.

Russ: You can get Munchkin level-counter dice, and even a bobblehead as a current player marker. Technically, you can get all the components from SJG.

HD: Why not try soft pretzels? They're sorta like cake. Beer and soft pretzels. (I agree with Craig, though - beer and cake is just wrong. Wine and cake, maybe.)

HD: Great Hollywood Minute there. I like the excitable minutes where you clearly have had way too much coffee - they're lively and entertaining. The more philosophical minutes are really good, however - cracking your real head open rather than your cartoon head open reveals far more intellectually satisfying thoughts and ideas inside.

For those lovely wives: Curious - was it really mah jong online that you played, or just tile matching? As someone who likes the real mah jong, I get sorta disgusted at how many games came out over the years with mah jong on the name that were just symbol matching. My only mah jong fix for a long time was Hong Kong Mah Jong Pro, but now Funtown Mah Jong is out on XBox Live Arcade. I've got it - it's good.

Oh, and the classic giant ant movie is Them! (It was parodied with the Fallout 3 mission Those!)

Having managed to avoid Heroes, I was quite happy with the actor playing Spock in the movie - really hit the nail well.

I'm still glad to hear another episode of the Score - as a fan of melody, I love getting a good perspective on matching instrumentals to moods. This remains a highlight of the show - but a highlight along with all the other great highlights. It's kind of like saying there's a really high point in the Himalayas.

Raef, re Ticket to Ride (TTR): When you say "it's not a rail game", are you confessing a love for choo-choos-n-crayons? Empire Builder, Iron Dragon, Eurorails? And I would postulate that you would not hate TTR so much, except that it's all you can play with a certain audience (never mind that she wins). Our game group had a similar problem at one point - it took a few other games for some players to latch onto in order to break up the TTR-a-thon. Take a look at Thurn and Taxis for you and yours.

And Ticket to Ride's fun for gamers in my estimation comes from the improvisation and layered contingency strategy you have to take in completing your tickets. Pulling two 20-point tickets and then having to improvise a route after someone takes one of your needed routes (for their 6-point ticket, of course) is quite the challenge, and it factors into ticket selection as well as ticket implementation. It's like planning for rush hour traffic, but the fun version.

Craig: I cannot believe you missed the ball Russ dished you with "the map doesn't have a lot of room, because..." MAN. Your romp into pure PC has clearly dulled your mind, Gandalf.

Russ: Bigger reason for Small World to not use figs, besides. Imagine how big the box would be if it did. Do you really need another Twilight Imperium to carry around?

Russ: The Small World die with one marky, two markies and three markies - is that die Marky Mark's? *snicker*

Craig: At least now I know why you were humming Small World - good good helium-induced song you were listening to.

All: In my role as an interface of gamers, I want to pass word to the fans that I've given a shout-out TO the D6G on a podcast I performed in as guest host. Check out episode 56 (not 55, the one up now) of the video game podcast called The Post-Game Report, available from http://www.talkingaboutgames.com/podcasts/pgr or from iTunes. The show will be up later this week.

Great show as always - I've listened to it twice, 'cause it's just that nice! (That plus I get bored at work - which is a double-compliment to your show, because it so effectively relieves ennui and doldrums!)
   
Made in gb
Stitch Counter






Rowlands Gill

I'm about a third the way through so far. Good stuff!

I would like to protest about all the hate being directed at Craig though! I think the show would be a lot nicer if the audience didn't direct hate at Craig...

J/K As a Brit I thoroughly approve of taking the p*** out of friends. We built an entire culture on it! I gather from GI's post above though that I might enjoy the DYEN segment this week!

I also like GI's alusion to the show being as full of high points as the Himalayas... Its always a challenge working out which segment is Everest this week, and which is K2!

I'll be back when I've finished listening.

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Cheers
Paul 
   
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Average Orc Boy




Wales

Forget ye not what brought you to the Dance Craig......

Dont go changing for a small minority , its the laughs in the D6G that makes the show so good.


I aint changing

Generic American Guy (GAG as he wants to be known)has told me he aint changing (in fact he has not changed his Black teeshirt since 1994).

So called fans who dont like what you say can switch off and not listen , I have had some similar mail and although it upset me at the time I thought Sod it.

Stick with it Craig, its good funny and most of all its you

Owen

 
   
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[DCM]
Gun Mage






New Hampshire, USA

Audio note: I noticed a few pops here and there. I believe these are 'skype line noise'.

One of the challenges we have on our show is that Raef is usually remote, meaning that we have an open skype line to him the entire time. Any strange skype noise that comes in will make it into the show.

If its something major I'll edit it out, but a few minor pops and hisses hear and there are going to sneak through.

Everyone just send e-mails to Hollywood@theD6Generation.com and tell him to get his butt in house for more shows and this problem would go away. ;-)

 
   
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Crazed Wardancer





United Kingdom

Well I redownloaded the episode and it now sounds fine.

I think the issue was because I originally downloaded the episode using my 3G mobile tethered to the laptop, rather than a normal internet connection (Just couldn't wait to get my fix...) This appears to have added some compression to the mp3, which is wierd. I was under the impression that only images were compressed by 3G mobile connections..



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Annoyance of Netlings




Long Island, New York

Hey!
So far... great show. except craig.from what i understand his wife is a howard stern fan, no? which means that he has obviously listened a few times. (correct me if im wrong). but anyway my point is that howard gets ridiculed all the time for whatever reason it is. he dosn't stop being himself. criags attitude kinda sucked. it was kinda annoying. now, if he ws doing that to be funny...well then its passable and i missed the joke. oh well. he should just keep doing what he does and not worry about negative email. also just in case you were wondering this is wiggles from long island ny. i left a voicemail. i guess it will get on next show. anyways as usual you guys are awesome! i bought battlelore cause of russ' rave reviews (not cause of boargames with scott). this summer im going to our house in new hampshire and would love to get a game of warmachine in with you guys. how far are you guys from hillsborogh? anyways great job fellas keep up the good work!

Still looking for a cure for my gamer ADD.  
   
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Annoyance of Netlings




Long Island, New York

My typing sucks.

Still looking for a cure for my gamer ADD.  
   
Made in no
Regular Dakkanaut




Two thumbs up for the Hollywood minute this episode (and that has nothing to do with any be-nice-to-Raef-week). That is exactly how I feel as well.
   
Made in us
Regular Dakkanaut







Um . . . yes . . . it was a joke. Believe me, if four years of military school couldn't change me, one email from a listener who didn't 'get it' won't be changing me. That was meant to be a bit that lasted a little while, but when Russ called me out on it early in the show I decided to run with it.

And besides, Russ deserves to get beaten up on every now and then.

Thanks, though, to those of you who threw me the "keep being you" bone. Owen, from a performer of yoru calibre, it means a lot, and GI, well, you gotta direct all of those words somewhere, but still, thanks!

Also, I know this was from the thread for last episode, can't remember who asked . . . GI, maybe?

I'm not the guy to ask about scaling your villains in RPGs. My Serenity campaign started with the crew working for the alliance, and by the end of the first episode they were fugitives and the entire alliance was out to get them, and then in episode 2 they had to fend off 10 well-armed, well-trained commandos with their hand guns and a couple 2 pounder cannons they had smuggled on board the ship.

Basically, I aim high, and then if things start to look bleak for the party I scale back on the abilities of the bad guys, or slant the rolling, or what have you, to scale in-game, rather than risk a push over bad guy.

Right now I'm pretty psyched about the baddie they're facing that they don't know they're facing. I've thrown out so much static they CAN'T know who's shootin' at 'em, for sure, yet. Can't tell you about that, though, rumor has it Russ visits these boards every now and then.

Anyway, gotta go sharpen my Hollywood Ginsu set for Episode 32.

Just kidding.

They're already sharp.

Thanks for listening guys, and keep on writing! I know I don't visit here much (logistically very hard), but people get me the stuff I need to know!

Talk to you all later.

~Craig

Far-stretching, endless Time
Brings forth all hidden things,
And buries that which once did shine.
The firm resolve falters, the sacred oath is shattered;
And let none say, "It cannot happen here".

Sophocles
 
   
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Fresh-Faced New User



Chicagoland

Master-Terraformer wrote:Russ deserves to get beaten up on every now and then.

I knew it!

Master-Terraformer wrote:GI, well, you gotta direct all of those words somewhere, but still, thanks!

Call me the fire hydrant of boardposters. After I've got all my thoughts on text, cutting anything just feels wrong. I want to talk about it all.

Master-Terraformer wrote:I'm not the guy to ask about scaling your villains in RPGs.

Yep - that was me.

Master-Terraformer wrote:Basically, I aim high, and then if things start to look bleak for the party I scale back

Hmmm. A sound strategy. I think I gotta just run stuff - I get vapor-locked.

Master-Terraformer wrote:I know I don't visit here much (logistically very hard), but people get me the stuff I need to know!

Let's have a round of "I Heard It Through the Grapevine."
   
Made in us
Annoyance of Netlings




Long Island, New York

Ok, here it is. i restarted episode 31 and listened to it to see if craig was being funny or not and i actually got it. its much funnier the second time around! sorry i said your attitude sucked Craig). i just didnt get to the dya ever notice segment. when i did i realized it WAS a joke. then i read the post he (craig) left and felt bad lol! Anyways, i wanna say i hate you Russ. for the simple reason that you have this way where every positive thing YOU have to say about a game makes me want to buy it. next time my wife yells at me for spending 70 bucks on a board game im gonna give her the voice-mail number and let her give you a piece of her mind. you guys kick BGWS in the ass tenfold! he sucks at reviewing boardgames lol. sorry. just ranting. anyway gotta play some more Hot Shots Golf 2 on psp, its like crack. Peace!

--Wiggles

Still looking for a cure for my gamer ADD.  
   
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Death-Dealing Dark Angels Devastator



Annapolis, MD

Another not so horrible show guys, though kinda short this time! Might want to pack on some extra for the next show to make up for it
   
Made in us
Winter Guard




Fantastic show, thanks a lot. I have a four-hour drive on Friday's to spend the weekend with my family and your show fills that time with humor and insight. Really appreciate it.

Small World sounds like a lot of fun but Bang! and Galaxy Trucker have just joined my gaming fold so it will have to wait for another revolution of the pay cycle. Thanks for another recommendation for my "want" list.

 
   
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Stinky Spore



Glasgow Scotland

Another great show, don't change anything especialy the humour, I've gamed for many years and can relate to nearly every thing you guys say "including the wives",
and even amongst my close friends we can see a bit of each other in the things you say or how you descibe people it's like adding another person to our circle of friends.
p.s I only started listening a month ago and have listened to every episode and sniggered my way through everyone.

were's my drink? what do I need to roll 
   
Made in us
Regular Dakkanaut







Well, shucks, fatfrog and the gang, don't you worry none.

I'm sharpening them ole' jinsu knives o' mine, and the nice-guy stuff's back in the shed where it belongs.

Seriously, though, thanks for your encouragement and kind words.

Incidentally, the peson who's email inadvertently caused the slight change in tenor of episode 31 has since emailed a very polite apology and retraction.

I have yet to respond, as I am, deep down inside, a vindictive bastard

Far-stretching, endless Time
Brings forth all hidden things,
And buries that which once did shine.
The firm resolve falters, the sacred oath is shattered;
And let none say, "It cannot happen here".

Sophocles
 
   
Made in gb
Average Orc Boy




Wales

Craig

Well done you......................



Owen

You could of course give his email out on air and encourage abuse- Its been done before, but only darkness will come of that..

 
   
Made in us
Regular Dakkanaut







I could do that, Owen, but I have always felt that, deep down inside, I'm True Neutral at WORST.

That trick's got to be Neutral Evil at LEAST, if not full on dark side.

I do, however, have some plans on coming back to my throne of pithy negativism with a vengeance this next episode . . . .

Far-stretching, endless Time
Brings forth all hidden things,
And buries that which once did shine.
The firm resolve falters, the sacred oath is shattered;
And let none say, "It cannot happen here".

Sophocles
 
   
Made in us
[DCM]
Gun Mage






New Hampshire, USA

Master-Terraformer wrote:I could do that, Owen, but I have always felt that, deep down inside, I'm True Neutral at WORST.

That trick's got to be Neutral Evil at LEAST, if not full on dark side.

I do, however, have some plans on coming back to my throne of pithy negativism with a vengeance this next episode . . . .


Oh man,

Now the pendulum swings the other way...


 
   
Made in ie
Fresh-Faced New User





Master-Terraformer wrote:I could do that, Owen, but I have always felt that, deep down inside, I'm True Neutral at WORST.

That trick's got to be Neutral Evil at LEAST, if not full on dark side.

I do, however, have some plans on coming back to my throne of pithy negativism with a vengeance this next episode . . . .


Episode 32, D6G Wars, Revenge of the Actor.
   
Made in us
Regular Dakkanaut







Now, come on, guys. I'm not out for revenge on anything like that.

Who do you think I am? Christian Bale?

Far-stretching, endless Time
Brings forth all hidden things,
And buries that which once did shine.
The firm resolve falters, the sacred oath is shattered;
And let none say, "It cannot happen here".

Sophocles
 
   
Made in ie
Fresh-Faced New User





I just had a mental image of Hollywood HD Dolby Vision Surround Sound as Robin. :p
   
Made in gb
Average Orc Boy




Wales

Can I take this chance to point out that Christian Bale is Welsh- Born in Havarfordwest

Diolch

Owen

 
   
Made in us
Regular Dakkanaut







Oh, Owen. Are you sure, given the current sound clip readily available of his antics on the set of Terminator: Salvation, that you want to be so quick to claim Christian Bale as a fellow Welshman?

Have you LISTENED to the clip? Because if you haven't, you REALLY must.

Trust me. You REALLY must. Now, in fact. Leave the warm and safe bosom of the Dakka Discussion forum and type in Christian Bale Rant Download and treat yourself to 3:00 of pure eloquence.

And who knows? It might benefit you in other ways, in your future, as well.

Far-stretching, endless Time
Brings forth all hidden things,
And buries that which once did shine.
The firm resolve falters, the sacred oath is shattered;
And let none say, "It cannot happen here".

Sophocles
 
   
Made in us
[DCM]
Gun Mage






New Hampshire, USA

I'm starting to believe that Owen is the Chekhov of our community. Except instead of everything being a Russian invention, it's Welsh.

 
   
 
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