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What war gear should the Necron have?
Warscythe 0% [ 0 ]
Staff of Light 0% [ 0 ]
Resurrection orb 0% [ 0 ]
Either of the first 2, but with the resurrection orb floating seperatly to one side? 0% [ 0 ]
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Deadly Dark Eldar Warrior




The null zone

Ok,

So after having a clear up from the suit workload and digging out all my little trays of ongoing projects, digging around on Deviant Art and then getting very excited about too many ideas in my head, I decided that my GD (UK 2009) blog should be restarted with a view to:

1: To decide out of lots of WIP's, which entries to go for.
2: To get the forums input on what is popular in terms of colour choices, modelling style and context, which will hopefully push the entries further towards being a winner!
3: To divulge some of the techniques and processes I go through in order to win a coveted trophy!

So, the challenge is this.
At each stage of this process, I will be asking for your input, with a poll feature to gauge peoples reactions. While I will keep the idea on track (and in keeping with my original idea) the whole thing is over to you guys!! (MODS can you give me POLL function?)

I want this to be a completely original concept, whereby I am essentially a puppet, but through open discussion, we can all learn and get some good ideas bouncing around. More importantly, it will make me work harder to get stuff completed on time!!!;-) and keep my desk clean and focussed!;-)

THE FIRST ROUND:
Now to choose the projects that I will concentrate on. I will list below the various works ongoing along side fresh new ideas that I would like you to choose from. By each idea will be the category that the piece will go into and a rough time estimate on how long each will take to complete. When voting, please remember that I can only have 1 entry in each category, so while you might love 2 x single miniature, you will need to sacrifice one for the other (this is the pain that I am going through now!)

Until I can organise with the mods to get a Poll facility, please feel free to free-post your votes!

40k Single

Genestealer Hybrid (3rd gen). 2 Weeks painting to do...



Necron Lord. 3 week build, 3 week painting. (with dead commissar being held up- thanks to Hokunin!)



Eldar wraithguard. 3 week build, 3 week painting. Multipose conversion styled closer to the wraithlord of today.


40K Squad

My Tau suits (x3) 3 weeks build- 4 weeks paint- 2 weeks on the basing. (these could be hyper based in a similar but simpler diorama setting previously described)

Pre- Heresy Death Guard squad- 7 guys with sorceror, pain merchant/ butcher and possesed 'fly marine', plus possible 3 guard conscripts.


40k Vehicle
Dark Eldar Artillary piece (thanks to Ignus Dei at Deviant art!!)- 1 month to sculpt (with 2 x crew) and 1 month 2 paint.


Eldar Autarch with Jet bike




40k Monster/ vehicle

XV88 Broadside (my own) with nice base- treading on rhino door- combat stance


Old one on dias (Slaan Mage priest) contemplating the universe. Think grumpy frog on a throne with pipe and lots of skulls around him in a dank cave- skin the colour abraham from Hellboy with Stargate style black granite architecture.



Eldar wraithguard- multipose conversion styled closer to the wraithlord of today.

Scratch build Tombspider- I dont like the current one and the Tomb Stalker just floats my boat! (based loosly on this one- not to scale!)


Duel
Battle at the Gate. Custode vs Worldeater on jetbikes at the emperors palace- VERY dynamic



Diorama
Blackpod down
(based on the discussion here; http://www.advancedtautactica.com/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=13275)

Open (this is scary for me, as only the studio staff tend to win and so I would be up against the BIG boys!;-)

Old one on dias (Slaan Mage priest) contemplating the universe
Eldar Autarch (as before but with more elaborate base)

I have a fair idea of what people will like/ want to see here, but it will be an interesting process none the less:-)

So, who's on board? (EDIT) I must point out that I am posting this here, at Warseer and also Dakka Dakka, so the results will be a combination of all 3 communities opinions. The reason being is that each forum has a very different way in which it critiques and also how opinions are shared. The result will be entries that are balanced as a result and hopefully therefore more likely to win!

Cheers

Wa'Rhound

(Full shots and other inspiration- here: http://s198.photobucket.com/albums/aa192/warhound_photo/)

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South Africa

What I would love is if you got one of those old genestealler cult leaders(not the magnus the other one I forgot it's name.)on a throne,that minis was cool and it would make an excellent mini diorama.


Like this:





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Deadly Dark Eldar Warrior




The null zone

Yes that would be great D.dre, however, I do not have one of them to hand;-)

The Old one is reminiscent of this iconic model however:-)

cheers
W

it won't help when you are dead you know?

XV88LTD; Shas 'O wA'rhound speaking, how may I railgun you? 
   
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South Africa

aI saw one on ebay the other day for abou 30.00 UK pounds,I wanted to get it but that is equal to almost 400 south african rands,so a little pricey.But I think something to do with the genestealer cult would still be awesome.

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The Netherlands

I'd love to see how you would do the Old One. I hope it will look different that just a Slann model in a different décor, meaning that the Slann model is cool and all, but try to give it some more than just the Lizardmen runes, armour,stones,etc.

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Deadly Dark Eldar Warrior




The null zone

Ah Malika!

Now I will post the WIP shots tonight, but as you will see it is quite early doors yet;-)

What do you have in mind? Any ref shots?

cheers
W

it won't help when you are dead you know?

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The Netherlands

I don't have that many ideas to be honest. I think it would be an easy cop out to give the Slann a more Eldar aesthetic for technology.

Why lots of skulls around him though?

Let him sit on some sort of grav throne, maybe looking into the sky contemplatively while reaching out to the sky with one hand. Maybe the Slann got something between his fingers, as if he picked a star out from the sky or something.

Bits Blitz Designs - 3D printing a dark futuristic universe 
   
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The null zone

NEW shots added- scroll back upto the top or visit:
http://s198.photobucket.com/albums/aa192/warhound_photo/GD%20PROJECTS-%20ON%20GOING/

for full details!!

cheers

Warhound


Automatically Appended Next Post:
Hi Guys,

it just dawned on me that I needed to put my arguments across for which entries that I think should be put forward for completion.

As mentioned before, many of these are works that have been sat on the shelf for the best part of 3 years now (since my last win) and so some I have a great deal of affection for. Other are very much more recent additions and so there are arguments for both new and old as I will put forward here:
SINGLE
Genestealer Hybrid:
As mentioned, revisiting old concepts that GW just couldn't do justice back in the day has become a little project of mine- the Space Hulk duel won a gold- so the idea must be right;-)

Necron Lord
I have always loved the aesthetic of the necrons, but they are very restrictive in their very nature. Therefore, given that Necrons are Apparently due next year, I wanted to get a strong concept out before the studio produce something better;-) I think the concept art, my WIP and this backbanner would do the job? http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/wezhu.htm :-)

Wraithguard
Since sculpting my Tau suits, I have been thinking about what other models could do with a multipose action- and being £8 a pop- wraithguards could certainly do with an overhaul!! A single model, not much taller than an Ogryn and bizarrly based on the same Necron lord chassis above would be ideal;-) Posed, dynamic, enigmatic.

SQUAD

Tau XV8.2 suits

What can I say?! I love what I have achieved with these guys and being able to recreate the iconic artwork based on them will be a dream come true!

Pre-Heresy Deathguard
As per a few comments, the deathguard while a different take (white armour etc), will be labour intensive and who hasn't seen a nurgle entry before??;-)

VEHICLE
Dark Eldar Artillery
When I first came across this piece I fell in love. It is different, eldar in feel, evil, floaty and quite 70's in its styling. With a bit of further work, I think this could be like my preacher sentinel years ago and reinvent the vehicle category!

Autarch with Bike
This is by far my tightest sculpt/ scratchbuild ever. If my photos could show it off better:-( The whole piece is coherent, tells a tale, is how eldar should look- lithe, tall etc and the bike with its detailing a think works well in its slightly upscaled aspect. I think that the blend between Scorpion and Dragon is subtle and carried across to the bike well with little design flairs like the antenna and engine cowling. Could be good for the open too. The shuriken pistol from his left arm is missing.

MONSTER
Old One
Been sat there for ages. Looking grumpy. Good strong story. Solid base model and if painted right would really stand out from the pack!!

XV88.2 Broadside

Again- just because I have one now. However I feel that the others in this category would be stronger.

Tombspider
This seems to be getting a lot of attention! I have played with some bits at home but not come up with anything that I am overly happy with. The end concept would be akin to the Tombstalker sketch. Again- necrons need some love.

DUEL

Battle at the Gate
While I love this piece, has a very strong story, is dynamic and well modelled, it would be painstaking to get done and would be a massive time sink I think?

DIORAMA
Black Pod down
To be honest, once the basic squad is done, there is not a lot extra to be done from the squad base to adding the rest of the story. I think I would prefer this option to the squad. Think Crashed escape pod, injured Aun, escorted by Shas'O who is very hard and ornate defending the pod until the suits can come in and secure the area [snapshot-click]

OPEN
Old one
Autarch

As above!

Ok, so who would I like to win?
Autarch- open. It is the strongest concept, sculpt and realistic piece that for me punches above its weight.

Dark eldar Artillery- Vehicle. A very strong concept which will naturally interest ALL eldar players and fluff meisters alike. Given a tight paint job and hovering over the eldar base that i have sculpted (ala Mr Footit), I think that this will stand out from the normal 500x Bane/storm/shadow/spider/banana blade entries with their oh so done to death weathering. (Yes I use those techniques, but really, does every vehicle entry have to have rust?)

Black Pod down- Diorama. This is an iconic setting which will be recognisable to most, contain very dynamic original sculpts (the suits) and have a strong story to accompany it. Also, should be technically quite easy to put together and do it well!

So there you have it guys- but they are only my thoughts, as I say, this is all over to the community!
I am tempted however to put in a caviate. Call it the 'Simon Cowell system' whereby, I am allowed to bump a choice once in the process. Call it my get out of jail free card if you will;-)

So what are your thoughts? AND KEEP VOTING!

Cheers

WaR'hound


Automatically Appended Next Post:
Quick update:

I have the commissar torso on its way for the Necron lord and I am in talks with the artist of the Dark Eldar Artillery to expand the idea!!

The voting still goes on- I just like to get bits and ideas in front of me so I can be on the starting blocks;-)

cheers
W

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The null zone

Any more votes guys?

Just a few more days to go!!;-)

cheers Warhound

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in the heart of sweden. Mullsjo; near Jonkoping

Hard decission, all looks great but i say the nercron lord holding the commisar just lokks like an ace project.

over an out avach

My current armies are IG Valahallans done in a ww2 style soveits and Bad Moon Orks.
orks 3000p
IG soviet inspierd Valhallans 4500p 
   
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Deadly Dark Eldar Warrior




The null zone

Ok, I at the moment there is a very high % of people who have voted for the Deathguard:-)

Why is this? Does anyone have specific arguments for this category?

I am curious as on my other polls, the DG are generally being left behind- why here with my (generally) American brothers the interest in them?

Just curious

cheers
Warhound

it won't help when you are dead you know?

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London (work) / Pompey (live, from time to time)

Pre-heresy stuff seems to be very popular to not only fluff maniacs, but also sculpters / converters.
im guessing thats why its become so popular on the poll.

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South Africa

What JD said or Nurgles rot is just getting to people.

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The null zone

BIG update!! Mr, Dark Eldar has been very kind in furnishing me with a revision of the artillery piece:


Lets see if that makes any difference to the votes?;-)

cheers
W

it won't help when you are dead you know?

XV88LTD; Shas 'O wA'rhound speaking, how may I railgun you? 
   
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South Africa

Very nicely done artwork,I love the DE.

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Deadly Dark Eldar Warrior




The null zone

Ok, guys,

Warseers Poll has just closed, and their results were:

Necron Lord 36.73%
Autarch 39.8%
Black pod Down 48.98%

Is this how you guys feel? Whats the concensus?

Not long for voting now!

cheers

Warhound

it won't help when you are dead you know?

XV88LTD; Shas 'O wA'rhound speaking, how may I railgun you? 
   
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do something with delphan gruss drilling into somethings head

Sing Us a Sea shanti so great that we will laugh our gizzards out, ya scurvy dog

from the land down under! 
   
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Deadly Dark Eldar Warrior




The null zone

Goodge, did you even bother to read say, the opening post?

Spamming like that is not appreciated or constructive?

Please read the primers about posting!

thanks
W

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Plastictrees





Bonn

warhound123 wrote:Ok, guys,

Warseers Poll has just closed, and their results were:

Necron Lord 36.73%
Autarch 39.8%
Black pod Down 48.98%

Is this how you guys feel? Whats the concensus?

Not long for voting now!

cheers

Warhound


I for one would still love to see the Necron Lord.
That drawing you posted is plain awesome!
   
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i never read anything more than a paragraph long

the necron lord project looks sweet

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Deadly Dark Eldar Warrior




The null zone

(well goodge, this will be too long for you then;-)

Ok,

so firstly to thank everyone for their votes and time taken to consider the options! :-) I have to say that it did appear very early on what the winners were going to be, although there were a few surprises. (DG being one! Had I time, I would have taken them on, but I will shelve them for next year)

So here are the results in decending order:
ENTRY No. Of votes

DG 13
Battle at the gate 13
Wraithguard 18
Broadside 26
Tombspider 27
XV8 Squad 33
Genestealer 35
Oldone 40
Dark Eldar platform 44
Autarch 58
Necron 60
Black pod down 81!!!!


In hind sight I would not have put the XV8 squad as a separate entry and just gone with the stronger option (ie do I want to do a cool squad OR do I want to do a cool squad and with a little extra effort will look twice as cool doing stuff;-) This would have split the votes differently I think? Anyway, this is all a learning curve;-)

SO, the next stage- we have our WINNERS. At this point, I am going to provide a brucey bonus to you all! As you will surely have become aware, I have fallen in love recently with a certain dark maiden of the purple variety;-) Therefore I am going to add her to the winners, thus:

40k Single Necron Lord

40k Vehicle Dark Eldar Artillery piece

Diorama Black Pod Down

Open Autarch


Yes, that means 4 entries with 4 months to go!!! Aaaargh;-)

I will update the phlog every couple of days, as there will have to be regular progress checks to keep the pace up. I will be using polls again throughout this process to make key decisions and ensure that while in my bubble, I am remaining objective:-)

Thanks again guys and I look forward to working with you over the coming months;-)

cheers

W

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XV88LTD; Shas 'O wA'rhound speaking, how may I railgun you? 
   
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South Africa

Have you thought of a paint scheme for the Autarch?

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Deadly Dark Eldar Warrior




The null zone

This will be one of the polls- I have 3 variations on a theme:-)

I will put this up at some point in the next 2 weeks. I think the first polls will be about the necron. I will be working on him first, as he is technically an easier piece than the others and will allow my brush skills to be warmed up;-)

Saim Hann is the backdrop for the autarch though.

Cheers
w

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The Netherlands

That Dark Eldar thing is amazing! Where did you get that new version of the picture?

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The null zone

Direct from the artist!;-)

He has been EXTREMELY accommodating and is keen to see how we work together on this...

cheers
W

it won't help when you are dead you know?

XV88LTD; Shas 'O wA'rhound speaking, how may I railgun you? 
   
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The null zone

Right Guys.

Work has already started anew on the Necron lord! I aim to have him done by the end of this weekend and painted next week;-)

I am stuck though as to what to arm him with? The ref picture, has him with a staff, my model has an orb, and both in my mind look good (with the opposite hand obviously holding the commissar up;-)

I then considered having an orb floating in proximity to the lord as in independent force, possibly resurrecting a necron from the floor- with a beam or lighting holding it above the downed body?

In addition, he will have a chronometron on one arm;-)

This may be tight to do on the base though as I will only have 40mm at best to work with, hmmm unless I work vertically too....?;-)

Anyway, I would really appreciate everyones input on this?

cheers

Warhound


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South Africa

I can't vote.

I think that he should be holding either staff with the orb floating of to the side somewhere.

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The Netherlands

warhound123 wrote:Direct from the artist!;-)

He has been EXTREMELY accommodating and is keen to see how we work together on this...

cheers
W


Wow...kick ass! Is he getting paid for the gig? It's because I'm looking for some concept artists to help out on the Troll Forged forums, we need concept art for sculpts/ideas/etc, but we lack sufficient concept artist.

I do hope that GW will pick up on your Dark Eldar piece once they see it at the GD!


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Sorry for the double post, but I thought I'd show you this, might be interesting to add to your Dark Eldar folder (ideas!)


Made by Kombat Unit

Found this somewhere else:

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The null zone

Hmmm, any mods around? I can't figure out why not working? Cheers DDRE for your vote anyway;-)

cheers
W


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nICE one Malika!

The first one is very nice- esp for the Minority report style free hanging operating window!;-)

Whats your vote my man?;-)

cheers

W


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South Africa

That is wonderful art,good find Malika.

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