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Guys this is my army list veary elite

Please no coppying :0

Battlewagon ; deff rolla, wrecking ball, stickbomb chukka, armour plates, grot riggers, zzap gun, 4 big shootas, ard case and boarding plank 180 Points

Ork Trukk ; reinforced ram, wrecking ball 50 points

Ork Trukk ; reinforced ram, wrecking ball 50 points

Flash Gitz ; x9 with more dakka and shootier upgrades, a painboy, 3 ammo runts and Kaptin Badrukk 495 points

Burna Boyz ; X24 Normal, Burna Boyz deploy near trucks 360 points

Warbikers ; X5 Normal, deploy at the front of army 125 points

Meganobz ; X5 with skorcha kombi 225 points

Killa Kans ; X3 with big shootas 120 points

Deffdread X1 with skorchas on both 85 points

Kommando’s X25 2 with burna’s 2 with rokkit launcha 300 points

Ork Boyz X30 All normal 180 points

Looted Wagon equipped with skorcha, reinforced ram and ard case 65 points

Old Zogwort 145 points

Lootas and Mek X7 and one Mek 120 points

Thats it

Anything i should change let me know

well first off i noticed your battlewagon has a deff rolla. if you look in the rules if you tank shock with it then it or its crew cant shoot. next dump the flash gits. i read in your past article you like them but dump them and that frees up 500 pts. next if you do take them give them the minimum amount. after that mount the squads in the vehicles.

Just so you know post your army list in the army list forum. Everybody makes mistakes so no prob.

Yea lol

Hey i just read the rules in my codex they can still shoot and anyway i could'nt care less orks dont really shoot ;P

But i have flash gitz which if you read my other post do quite well thanks to good rolling but worst time they killed 1 terminator they kill 3 on average without baddrukk


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tau_etheral wrote:well first off i noticed your battlewagon has a deff rolla. if you look in the rules if you tank shock with it then it or its crew cant shoot.

My anwer to that is check new codex i quote

Wargear
Deff Rolla: A Deff ROlla is a great spiked roller that brings a collasal weight of the battlewagon to bear on anthing in its way. A battlewagon with a Deff Rolla ma re-roll dangerous terrain test. any tank shock causes D6 strength 10 hits on the victim unit if the unit declarees a death or glory attack it takes a further d6 strength 10 hits in addition to the usual effects.

Ethier you got a fualty codex old one or the new one please tell me th epage you found this on if you found on forum well thats a load of rubbish beacuse i have new codex


Also im mounting my burna's in the trukks call me mad but my board will have loads of looted bastion's and mountains covering them so they cant die then they offload and the trukk drives headlong at guants and the like

hey, i've got some crucial advice for you... ORGANISE YOUR ARMY LIST!!!!!!!

(you may inspire yourself with the organisation of armybooks, well, in 40k it's called codex)

standard organisation is : headquarters, elites, troops, fast attack, heavy support... dedicated transports are listed in particular unit's upgrades, you may add symbols like # or * to appoint which HQ choice rides with which guys (e.g.)

First time on warhammer forum so thanks for telling me that

okay, no prob here sir!

You have Zoggie + Badrukk and gitz + zzap guns.

I'd classify this as a for fun list and not a tournie list. You'll probably do fine in a friendly game.

For friendly lists it really depends on what type of lists you are playing agianst. If you tell us what the people at your FLGS are fielding or what your friends are fielding at your home games then we can help you tailor your list to beat them.

If you are trying to take this to a tournie where you will have to play top lists from all armies then we will probably start picking apart your list to make it resemble the one of 5 ork lists on Dakka

Otherwise just field what you think looks cool or plays fun.

The wagon you listed is 195, not 180 points. I think you only counted its big shootas once.

Those lootas...you want more of them. At least 12 in a squad. You also have too many elite choices. At most you can bring 3, and you can have no more than 15 komandos in a squad. Same with the burnas you've got. And, putting a 'ard case on that wagon makes you able to transport no more than 12 models.

Also, you've got too many heavy choices. No more than three choices are allowed. I'd drop the looted wagon if you're set on bringing the Flash Gits.

You need another squad of troops, also. ALWAYS upgrade a boy to a Nob with a Power Klaw. Doing anything else is useless. Throw rokkits in the squad (1 rokkit per 10 boys) when possible.


You've taken everything you see you like and combined them into a FrankenList. No opponent, not even in friendly games, should allow you to bring this list. Read your codex a bunch more, then re-write this list. And 2500 points is a bit much...most people play at the 1500, 1750, or 2000 point limit.

Read the new codex beacuse my army list is perfect for that!
REad it has none of that in it

It's covered in page 87 of the BRB you'd find in the book inside the Assault on Black Reach set, and on page 94 of the most current Ork Codex. It shows (with a picture, even) the minimum and maximum allotments of selections you're allowed. All of the elites specifics are covered on pages 98 and 99 of the codex, including their composition.

Please become a bit more familiar with your codex and your army. This is either a laughable try at army creation, or a substandard trolling attempt.

Or the fact i eat organsation charts there stupid all i say is you must have 2 troops and 1 hq which i have also im recreating one and who are you to talk!


Assualt on blackreach booklet i have that but its the codex you should go of not some freebie in a box set

Burna Boyz and kommandos have a maximum mob size of 15, and you have taken them in squads of 24 and 25 respecively, which is illegal.

You only have two scoring units (assuming you have a big mek), your deffdred and a mob of boys. This is far too few for a 2500pt army. It is far too easy to kill them moth and then make you automatically lose objective games.

The mob of boys you do have is terrible because it has no upgrades. At minimun you need to give it a nob with a PK and bosspole. You should also give it some heavy weapons.

Flashgitz are the worst option in the codex. You should drop them at all costs. The points are always better spent elsewhere.

Your burnas (when you make them a legal mob size) need to be in a transport. With only template weapons they need to have some speed or they will never get anywhere.

Your warbike need a nob with a powerklaw at least.

You need some more kans. 3 is too few i think. If you dont take lots they may not be worth taking at all.

You can only take two special weapons in your kommandos mob, not 4. Keep the burnas and drop the rokkits (put the rokkits in your boyz mob)

Your looted wagon doesnt seem to do much. I think a trukk would do the job just as well for almost half the points.

What does old zogwort add to the list? What use does he have over a warboss or big mek?

You need more lootas. 7 isnt enough. try to run them in squads of 15 if you can. If you cant get more than 10 theyre not worth taking.

Your list is all over the place. It doesnt have a focus. You have dribs and drabs of things but no synergy between them. Once you have made it legal you need to sit down and think about what you want your army to do.

Lol no i have'nt there split up one burna boyz mob in one trukk one in the other xD

I forgot to put them in mob sizes

Also im new on this forum

Also dont use organsationchart and the scoring units thing is a good point and i admit its all over the place im redoing and i need help i dont know to go for lots of kommandoes with nobz with power claws burnas and rokkit launcha and of course snikrot The rokkit launcha on the kommadoes is need as i always try to send them infiltarting behind tanks in a pefect world I agree with the killa kans and yes im going to add in a big mek with shokk attack gun for thoose dang MEQS

Then you have 4 elite choices which is illegal. Nobody will play you if you have an illegal army. If you want to play normal games of 40k you need to conform to the force organisation chart, like everybody else does. It is in the ork codex so you have no excuse.

Dakka-Dakka-Waaaagh! wrote:Or the fact i eat organsation charts there stupid all i say is you must have 2 troops and 1 hq which i have also im recreating one and who are you to talk!


Assualt on blackreach booklet i have that but its the codex you should go of not some freebie in a box set

Is this meant to be english? You need to use proper punctuation, full stops and capital letters, otherwise nobody will understand you.

OK blad blah blah xD

Im thinking, mainly Kommandoes warbikers kans or stormboyz?

Any ideas my favourites are kommandoes and warnikers i love the warbikers cover saves and the kommandoes sneaking around the place getting in the perfect postion for slaughter , So i need some ideas any help

Id give the Mek a KFF. And get at least 3 or better 4 units of 20 Boyz, make one a shoota mob. Give all mobs a PK Nob. Having 4 units of 20 rather than 3 units of 30 (which most people prefer) means
a) More scoring units
b)You can mount them in battle wagons so they dont get shot
c)Even without Battle Wagons 4 mobz are still better because your opponent will have to split fire more.

Dropping the Flash Gitz will allow you to do this, 5 i think is OK, but anymore is a waste of points really and Kaptin baddrukk is the biggest waste of points in the dex.


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Sorry i forgot @ dakka-dakka-waggh, both kommandos and warbikers are excellent choices, give each unit a Nob with PK especially the Kommandos this allows them to sneak behind barrage tanks e.g. whirlwinds and destroy them easily in CC.

I have now remade one with organastion chart 3 trukks filled with boyz exepct have nobz with big choppas i want them to hit first with cheaper weapons so i can cram more in like mad dok grotsnik i have him there and a big mek with shokk attack gun also to the person above me for next 500 points im getting some big gunz and a Big mek with KFF

Also i have taken out badrukk i will type it up soon ill give rough idea

3 trukks 3 mobs of 12 in them all expect 1 with nobz and big choppa's = eavy armour and bosspole

15 kommandoes and snikrot with 2 burnas

15 kommados 2 with rokkit launcha

15 burna boyz with mad dok grotsnik attackched

3 deffcoptas with twin linked rokkits

Big mek with shokk attack gun

and some more things

wait, you have, lets c... 4 elite choices. hmm. dun think thats allowed.
you also only have one troops choice, not counting dedicated vehicles. hmmm.
but, of course, this is a beer and pretzels list, so ignore that little comment.

first of all, not a big fan of zoggie. but if you insist, y not.

not a big fan of wrecking ball either. but i can tell ur a big fan of ramming vehicles, so y not. go along with the theme.

scrap the deff dread, add more kans. depends wat you want, i suppose, but i prefer more kanz rather than deff dreads.

mek really needs KFF. helps a LOT.

if you want lootaz, take either LOTS AND LOTS... or none.

kommandos are pretty good with snikrot, make some space for him.

GET MORE BOYZ!!!
a teeny 30 boy squad of boyz will capture NO objectives watsoever if the time comes for them to.

as for the flash gitz... i really think they simply take up waaay too much points, and aren't really worth it.
they don't work that well as fire magnets, nor do they do that much damage.
i would scrap them and take either regular boyz, kanz, and/or help make space for snikky.
also, if theres space for a mek with SAG, that would be awesome. adds to beer and pretzel feel of the list.

you could either: do wat me and the other people told you to. of course, these would help add a bit of a punch to ur list.
the tips will give you the enjoyment of seeing looks of utter shock on ur opponent's face.
or you could: ignore all of the above, because this is a fun and games list, and go enjoy a good funny game of 40k.

i would choose the latter.
go have fun, and roll sixes!

Thanks read comment above your one

erm ya. hee hee hee


go roll a six anyway

Grogwog SkullTaka wrote:
you also only have one troops choice, not counting dedicated vehicles. hmmm.
first of all, not a big fan of zoggie. but if you insist, y not.

Hes got 3 troops not counting dedicated vehicles (3 mobz of 12 in each) and turning Marneus Calgar into a squig is an oppotunity too good to miss. Zoggie can be a laugh at times.

He did his job to a Chaplain and Calgar. I approve of Zogwort in any mob list. The deepstrike is nigh useless, but rolling a 2-4 is usually win in any situation.

If you need the kommandos, get Snikrot. Take the two burnas with a full squad and go at it. He can be game-breaking if wielded correctly.

I still say (as does anyone else with a modicum of sense) you should equip the Nobs you have with a powerklaw. Nothing you have in that list can really deal with AV14 adequately. At best your koptas will glance the ever loving crap out of it, and immobilize it. Then it'll turn around (or its contents will spill out) and annihilate them. Also, having 29 other boys in that squad means your opponent will have to take out all 29 JUST to get to the nob's PK.

Also, if you can spare the points, take a squad of gretchen to guard the big mek with the SAG. It's an easy kill, even in cover.

I'd scratch the second squad of kommandos (without Snikrot) and use the points for a Battlewagon with a Deff Rolla. It's AV14, and can hold 20 boys. It's worth it. And hitting D6 Strength 10 hits on a squad? Awesome.

In the end, take what you want. Feeling out the entire codex is something you need to do. I'd try big gunz before you buy them, however. I fail to see their utility. But if all else fails, go with that list. Losing enough will teach you moreso than winning, and you're sure to learn alot in the next few games with your choices. And for God's sake...make sure you obey the FOC.

Kans > big gunz

At least in my experience.

And all boyz squads should have a PK nob with bosspole. The PK helps the squad take out armor. Most of the time the boyz are just screening hits for the real danger the PK nob.

Big choppas are nice in a regular nobz squad, but that boyz squad nob needs the deadly killy power that only a PK can provide (especially in the assault slugga squads that should be going in the trucks). Also they are awesome looking. This goes for your non-snikrot kommando squad as well.

Should give 1 deffkopta a buzzsaw so that the squad can assault rear armor.

I also feel you should have 4 truck boyz squads in this list, but that's my preference. I like having more scoring units on the field.

Why get rid of second lot of kommadoes then own and there like my tanks also for bastion killing i use the zzzap gun on my battlewagon Or the SAG and thanks for the good advice about the gretchin I dont what to take out though possible a trukk and the 12 normal men for a squad of gretchin and some big gunz

Might as well do that any thought on that and if i have spare points not likly i would get a Big mek with KFF

The Zzap gun is...snarky. It's a neat AP2 weapon, but like the SAG it's however you can roll. Unreliable, when you need it in a key moment. Also, in my opinion it's overpriced. Consider that the Kannon is a str 8 OR a str 5 (4? I don't recall and am at work) blast shot (shell or a frag shot, respectively), you've got more versatility in it.

Dakka-Dakka-Waaaagh! wrote:Guys this is my army list veary elite

Please no coppying :0

Very elite...no copying.

I lol'd so much. If you are a troll, best one ever.

As for your updated list:
PKs, not big choppas on Nobz, no 'eavy armor.
Drop Grotsnik.
Burnas in a BW. Kommandoes in a BW.
Give the Mek a KFF instead and put him in the BW with the Burnas.
"Some more things" better mean more trukk boyz.

Iron_Chaos_Brute wrote: Burnas in a BW. Kommandoes in a BW.

Kommandos in a BW???? Why? This I gotta hear.
The only reason to take Kommandos over boys is their extra rules....most importantly Snikrot.

Welll i have snikrot and i changed it from burna boyz to meag nobz equipped with mad dok the kinda combo that is lethal ie Feel no pain rule and 2+ saves and a 5 invurable from my KFF Well i think that is one tough cookie and with them chargind well your a bloody paste

And also no PKS i want a fast attacking nob not someone that if his mob is dead he will get slaughtered also PK is so expensive :( and i have Near invible Mega nobz and Mad dok

Dakka-Dakka-Waaaagh! wrote:Welll i have snikrot and i changed it from burna boyz to meag nobz equipped with mad dok the kinda combo that is lethal ie Feel no pain rule and 2+ saves and a 5 invurable from my KFF Well i think that is one tough cookie and with them chargind well your a bloody paste

And also no PKS i want a fast attacking nob not someone that if his mob is dead he will get slaughtered also PK is so expensive :( and i have Near invible Mega nobz and Mad dok

I have been trying to read your posts in this thread and others, and it is very difficult. Please, use punctuation so that we can more easily understand you. Thanks!