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So im sure most have you have experienced it, if you havent then i envy you!

My GW is down the road from the town centre of my local town ( i live in the middle of the country side, the towns not even that big tbh!) but ofcourse theres always some smart kid/s who just want to show off and be cool by walking into the shop and giving everyone a load of stick, or actually breaking models.. Now ive read alot of replies on other threads, with people claiming "bl bla bla if they touched my models i'd beat the out of them" but this really does not stand up. In this day and age that simply doesnt work, and most likely you'd just get sued, or arrested yourself.

Last saturday this kid walked in an fluresent ink t-shirt, he walks around shouting this shop is gak, ignoring the store worker, who can clearly do nothing to get the kid out, but call the police. He asks us all to take out our phones and take a picture of the kid, and then continues to call the police, and at this moment the kid himself and runs like hell.

Now i just wondered how other people deal with this, and no "i just beat them up", because lets be honest, thats hardly true

Jack.

To be honest there isn't a lot you can do except for ignore them.

They are trying to get attention to make up for the fact that the only love they have ever had in their sad little lives is when their uncle used to creep into thier room late at night.

It would be nice if a simple slap could send them on thier way, but as you said this will normaly result in either a gang of feral rat children surrounding you on the way home, or some overzealous copper chucking you in a cell for the evening.

So yeah, in brief I tend to ignore them and content myself with the fact that no matter how crap life can seem from time to time, the highlight of it will not be punching your mum on the Jeremy Kyle show

Get the manager to whisper very loudly to a blue shirt that hes going to call the police and there usually run.

TheFirstBorn wrote:So im sure most have you have experienced it, if you havent then i envy you!

My GW is down the road from the town centre of my local town ( i live in the middle of the country side, the towns not even that big tbh!) but ofcourse theres always some smart kid/s who just want to show off and be cool by walking into the shop and giving everyone a load of stick, or actually breaking models.. Now ive read alot of replies on other threads, with people claiming "bl bla bla if they touched my models i'd beat the out of them" but this really does not stand up. In this day and age that simply doesnt work, and most likely you'd just get sued, or arrested yourself.

Last saturday this kid walked in an fluresent ink t-shirt, he walks around shouting this shop is gak, ignoring the store worker, who can clearly do nothing to get the kid out, but call the police. He asks us all to take out our phones and take a picture of the kid, and then continues to call the police, and at this moment the kid himself and runs like hell.

Now i just wondered how other people deal with this, and no "i just beat them up", because lets be honest, thats hardly true

Jack.

Why beat him up when you can beat him down?
Taser gun?
Killer attack Gerbil?
Store pet Rottweiler named PanFo?
Parakeets taught to say "Iron within Iron without!"
Annoying sister on-site?
A full rack of V4 whippy sticks to repel borders?
Empty a clip downrange as a warning shot?
Canned rancid gamer funk hurled at them?
spiky marine mini launcher and/or boobytrap?

Frazzled wrote:
Why beat him up when you can beat him down?
Taser gun?
Killer attack Gerbil?
Store pet Rottweiler named PanFo?
Parakeets taught to say "Iron within Iron without!"
Annoying sister on-site?
A full rack of V4 whippy sticks to repel borders?
Empty a clip downrange as a warning shot?
Canned rancid gamer funk hurled at them?
spiky marine mini launcher and/or boobytrap?

Can beat those suggestions

Just deploy one rabid Frazzie around the main entrance.

It might keep out customers too though.

Oh no I am quite welcoming and can attract lots of business. For a small fee I can practically insure any near passers by will come into your store (get in there!)

Seriously though...those whippy sticks might be a good idea...

TheFirstBorn wrote:So im sure most have you have experienced it, if you havent then i envy you!

My GW is down the road from the town centre of my local town ( i live in the middle of the country side, the towns not even that big tbh!) but ofcourse theres always some smart kid/s who just want to show off and be cool by walking into the shop and giving everyone a load of stick, or actually breaking models.. Now ive read alot of replies on other threads, with people claiming "bl bla bla if they touched my models i'd beat the out of them" but this really does not stand up. In this day and age that simply doesnt work, and most likely you'd just get sued, or arrested yourself.

Last saturday this kid walked in an fluresent ink t-shirt, he walks around shouting this shop is gak, ignoring the store worker, who can clearly do nothing to get the kid out, but call the police. He asks us all to take out our phones and take a picture of the kid, and then continues to call the police, and at this moment the kid himself and runs like hell.

Now i just wondered how other people deal with this, and no "i just beat them up", because lets be honest, thats hardly true

Jack.

Warn him clearly before beating him up?

Whats he doing thats bad other than breaking model so far? tell him " you touch anything without my permission god help you if you break my model , i'll break something on you too "

*edit , i realize that most of you are adults so you seem to be afraid of getting caught by law . Then ask your children to do it xD
or someone under 18

If you were achually going to punch a chav for breaking your models, do not do it in the gaming store!

Your end up breaking other people models and getting banned.

I call security and get them tossed out of the mall. Being a jerk isn't against the law. Being a jerk and breaking other people's property crosses the line.

Actually im 15, and am tall but pathetically skiny so would probably throw a pathetic punch! but the best thing ive seen yet was in my local GW a year ago wear a chav walked in an asked cockily how to play, and the manager gave him a dice and asked him to roll it, he rolled 2 and asked what it meant (in one of there stupid voices) and the manager said "thats how many seconds you have to get out of my store before i call the police" and the pathetic excuse for a human being ran for his life! love it.

You guys get kids causing trouble over there in merrie olde england? My FLGS is in the hood, next to a barber shop and across the street from housing projects, and I've never had any problems.

Of course, the owner of the barber shop recently sliced up a would be thief with a straight razor, so maybe punks know to stay away.

I dunno, here in the states businesses can generally make a call to the local Police, and they'll harass the local riff raff until they know they're not wanted.

Not sure how it is over there across the Atlantic but a stern glare from the entire shop, cell phone cameras, and a warning of pressing charges for destruction of private property should any models indeed fall victim to the pest all tend to keep pesky things like this from happening.

As stated previously, should it truly escalate to the point of physical violence beyond ushering the person out the door let it be done far away from the game store.

Polonius wrote:You guys get kids causing trouble over there in merrie olde england? My FLGS is in the hood, next to a barber shop and across the street from housing projects, and I've never had any problems.

Of course, the owner of the barber shop recently sliced up a would be thief with a straight razor, so maybe punks know to stay away.

I dunno, here in the states businesses can generally make a call to the local Police, and they'll harass the local riff raff until they know they're not wanted.

Usually riff raff won't enter the den of evil that is the local FLGS. Can't be a gangsta steppin into a toy soldier store yo.

TheFirstBorn wrote:Actually im 15, and am tall but pathetically skiny so would probably throw a pathetic punch! but the best thing ive seen yet was in my local GW a year ago wear a chav walked in an asked cockily how to play, and the manager gave him a dice and asked him to roll it, he rolled 2 and asked what it meant (in one of there stupid voices) and the manager said "thats how many seconds you have to get out of my store before i call the police" and the pathetic excuse for a human being ran for his life! love it.

Im not trying to encourage violence but , human tendon and sinew are only a few milimeter below the flesh
it doesnt take alot of mass or force to be able to heavily traumatize them if you know where to hit .
(take some lessons , learn where the human pressure points are . guaranteed that the person wont be able to walk away ,
and save yourself the trouble of getting sued compared to breaking someone's nose for example )

@ Frazzled

Word, homeslice.

Carry around a self-defense cane. In the US of A they're usually legal and can be one hell of a weapon just as long as you're not going up against a firearm.

Of course, physical violence against IRL trolls shouldn't be encouraged unless they throw the first punch. Being in the store and having a cell phone to call the police is a safer and easier alternative.

you know, all the gaming stores i've frequented have never really had problems with punks.....but then again, damn near every gaming store i've been to has been run by ex-military and/or kept a large dog at the shop......now that i think about it, the one place kept a claymore by the counter

I tell you what the solution isn't

And that's stereotyping any lout in Mckenzie or displaying anti-social behaviour.

Evidently this thread will solve all public disorders in 'fringe' shops, so good look with that.

/end sarcasm

Just call the police if he broke something. They did not have your permission to pick it up and broke it on purpose. That is a crime and the cost of the models are expensive. Call the police, have a report taken and if that does not work then take them to small claims court. Since they are childern then their parents will have to go to court and be responsible for the damages. That will normally do more than a simple beating.

We've had dorks like that occasionally come into the place where I game at.
We just ignore them because they really aren't worth the bother, but it was really amusing the time a couple came in when the sole people in the store playing was a bunch had just gotten back from Iraq along with some of my buds that are Vietnam vets.

The funny thing is, no one laid a hand on these guys or even threatened them, but they had one of those oh crap moments when they realized what they were trying to agitate. They never came by again.

being in the states, makes it easier as we can escort the guy out of the store. in the uk, taking pictures and calling the police is the safest route.

Ive achually met a chav who was into 40k.

I try not to steorotype them as a chavy thug into they achually start acting like dicks.

Small claims court? Suing? Ha ha! someone that has time to arse about causing problems to gamers will generally have little to take or indeed lose if you could even get them to a court in the UK. The treatment of young offenders in the UK borders on ignoring them until such time as they are old enough to serve proper time.

If someone is stepping onto private property causing a nuisance then you are perfectly entitled to remove them from said property using reasonable force. Lacking Luna's ninja-like skills but possessing considerable bulk my preferred method of doing has always been using their face to open the bar lock on an emergency escape door. It is rare that someone that causes trouble will involve the police if they have just been embarrassed, the police will not waste their time on people like that once they have found out what really happened.

If you allow people to behave as they wish around you then they will continue to do so. I don't buy into the whole everything is getting worse than ever gak, but I do beleive that too many people turnthe other cheek.

Gak hits the fan you have three choices;
[1] Ignore them and hope they go away (could take some time)
[2] Threaten them with the police/security, may work or may turn it into a game for them.
[3] Get off my lawn i.e. if you are going to act then act - Almost all of the fights I have been involved in are won with the first punch, so make sure you deal it.

Ive achually met a chav who was into 40k.

Funny, i havent met you


and yes, chavs do play 40k
Im a chav, just not the loud, annoying and dick-head type that usually sums them up (and for ref. here, i wear jeans, not trackies)
Im actually quite a nice person , i just get branded so due to the music i listen to.

Never actually seen any real problems in a GW or FLGS, about the most ive seen is a few people shouting or screaming rules lol.

My usual tactic has been to stand up, get out my wallet and show them my warrant card.

That has yet to fail to get them apologising profusely and running with tail between legs Also usually gets me a small round of aplause and something to eat.

JD21290 wrote:

Ive achually met a chav who was into 40k.

Funny, i havent met you


and yes, chavs do play 40k
Im a chav, just not the loud, annoying and dick-head type that usually sums them up (and for ref. here, i wear jeans, not trackies)
Im actually quite a nice person , i just get branded so due to the music i listen to.

Never actually seen any real problems in a GW or FLGS, about the most ive seen is a few people shouting or screaming rules lol.

I dont mind Chavs as long as they dont have problems with me, but most of them do. I generally see Chavs as the loud dickheadish dickheads, and the people I know who listen to Dance and generally dress like chavs but are achually nice people, I dont call them chavs really.

Never had any problems at my FLGS...

But then again, the owner keeps a cut-down baseball bat handy behind the counter.

Besides, the gamers at my FLGS are rather beefy fellows. Easier pickings elsewhere, I'm sure!

lol, loss, i get called a chav for a few reasons

1: i tend to go out drinking alot on weekends.
2: im allways wearing a hoodie and jeans of some kind.
3: i listen to alot of dance/trance/rave music


Allthough, i do have a full time job, something which 99% of chavs do not have.
I also have common sense, another trait which is rare among chavs

I have punched a chav who was screwing around at my game store once. I was only 17 at the time, so I didn't get into any trouble about it, and I have to say it felt damn good.

As an adult now though, I'm not allowed to go chav-bashing anymore. Such is life.