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After reading some of the old threads about issues of how to pronounce certain words like Chimera and Tyranids, I realised that GWdo tell us how to pronounce all of these words, and more.
On each box of minis, it says what is inside in a wide range of languages. One of these is Japanese.
Since the squad names are invariably non japanese words, these are in Katakana. (Bear with me, non Japanese speakers)
So, my thinking is thus; as the Japanese alphabets leave no variation of pronunciation, we can assume that the Katakana is as close to the correct pronunciation as the japanese syllables allow, so we can use this to decide between two ways of pronouncing the words.
As an example, on the Tyranid Warrior box it says Tyranid as チラニド, (Chi ra ni do) which suggests that the correct pronunciation of Tyranid is tirunid, as opposed to TyreAnneId, which would be supported by katakana of タイラニド、(Ta i ra ni do) or something similar.
Any thoughts?
Also, I would be interested to find other katakana for disputed words like Chimera.
Thanks!
True, but it's still a valid source of information (IMO) as it's from GW. Also, that's kind of my point, as people who don't or can't read it don't know what they're missing.
Shinigami wrote:True, but it's still a valid source of information (IMO) as it's from GW. Also, that's kind of my point, as people who don't or can't read it don't know what they're missing.
I guess it does show some interesting point.
atleast now we know Tyranid is Tee sound and not Tai ( guess it works hehe )
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To be honest, the only people I hear having problems pronouncing these words are our colonial brethren. Us native English-speakers seem to have little problem...
Osbad wrote:To be honest, the only people I hear having problems pronouncing these words are our colonial brethren. Us native English-speakers seem to have little problem...
Ooh, controversional
As a UK resident, my friend pronounces Tyranids "Ti-ranids" and as I stated above, I go for the "Tie-ranids" option. One of us "natives" must be wrong... although I don't really care either way myself.
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@ Jimi Nemesis: I've spoken with JJ about the Imperial Guard in general (nothing particularly interesting, I'm afraid), and he pronounces it 'laz'. I think that should stick, as he invented it and all...
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I once was forced to deal with an idiot at my FLGS that insisted that the Russ in Leman Russ MUST always be pronounced "Roos", to the point that he would stop and spontaneously corrected someone three tables over who didn't say it right. If course, he always made of point of pointing out that he knew the ancient Gaelic roots of the names of the Eldar Craftworlds. Another similar idiot always insisted that the proper pronunciation of Chimera was Shi-mu-ra. My take on all of this is that as an American, I'll pronounce any damn word any damn way I want and if you try to correct me, you're gonna be in for a long, hard slog.
I think this argument is kind of stupid. Pronounce it however the hell you want to. As long as I know what your talking about when you say Tyranid or chimera. Its only annoying when someone goes WAY out there. I knew a guy that pronounced it shim-u-ra. That takes a second. Reminds me of SHAMWOW!
Tier/a/nid. That's the only way I've ever heard it pronounced.
As for Tzeentch, I've only heard it pronounced as if the first T was silent.
Though... I remember MANY years ago I heard someone say "My Libian is casting his physic power Smit". Clearly he didn't know English, and I don't have a problem with it, but it was rather amusing
Chimera I say it as such: Ki/mare/ah. I've heard several pronunciations of this but one of my Greek friends said this was the correct way. Even if he is wrong, I think it sounds best too (Note the 'Ki' is like the word 'eye' with a K in front... I'm incredibly tired and don't know how I would type that ).
anticitizen013 wrote:Tier/a/nid. That's the only way I've ever heard it pronounced.
As for Tzeentch, I've only heard it pronounced as if the first T was silent.
Though... I remember MANY years ago I heard someone say "My Libian is casting his physic power Smit". Clearly he didn't know English, and I don't have a problem with it, but it was rather amusing
Chimera I say it as such: Ki/mare/ah. I've heard several pronunciations of this but one of my Greek friends said this was the correct way. Even if he is wrong, I think it sounds best too (Note the 'Ki' is like the word 'eye' with a K in front... I'm incredibly tired and don't know how I would type that ).
If you were a statistician you would type it Chi as in Chi Squared Test.
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Americans can't speak proper... it's a fact And ipso facto you can't be a "native English speaker" if you aren't from England...!
Whatever other languages you colonials drawl it ain't the Queen's English, and' that's the durn truth! It's probably "Colonial" or "American" or "Pidgin" or some other bastardisation...
So, I have it on good authority that the Her Majesty pronounces:
Tyranid as "Tih (to rhyme with "bit")-rah-nid"
Lascannon as "Lazz-cannon"
Chimera as "Kye-meer-ah"
C'tan as "Suh-tan"
Tzeench as "T'seen-ch"
Leeman Russ as "Leeman Russ" (to rhyme with "London Bus")
Valkyrie as "Val-ker-ee"...
It is of course a beheading offence to contradict Her Majesty...
And for a serious moment here. I'm not just flame-baiting Americans here. I am actually serious in that the only people I have heard "mispronounce" (as in pronounce differently to the above) or expressing difficulty in pronouncing such words are Americans. All the Brits I speak to about 40k just don't seem to have any problem. Its simply not an issue - we just pronounce the word as its spelled! It really is no big deal over here!
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Alrighty then, how does Her Majesty pronounce Sanguinius?
Is it
Sang ween us
or
Sang win ee us
or something else?
And for the record, as a North American (since America stretches from the tip of Argentina (South America) all the way to the top of Canada (North America), with Central America (i.e. Mexico) in between, I pronounce Osbad's words as he laid out. So its not all of us. And the term "Americans" covers an awful lot of ground
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