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So I am sitting here with a box of bullets on my coffee table (roommate likes guns).
So I pop open the box of .22 longrifle bullets and suddenly it hits me, with some tiny plasticard wings painted tin bitz they would make the coolest storm boyz rokkit packs EVER! What do you guys think? (yes I will drain out the powder, I am not taking live ammo to tabletop wargames that sometimes get heated) Heck I wouldn't even need to paint em! just the fins!

It is not the powder that I am worried about it is the primer charge. If you do not set it off you will have a small boom on your hands. Size and shape is a good but the use of a bullet with a primer charge you might have more than a figure flying off.

I say leave the powder in and do it, also make a device to fire them once you no longer "need" storm boys

ummmm... I may be thinking outside the box here, but if your friend is into guns, I assume he goes to a firing range or actually shoots his .22? Get his casings, or the casings of others at the range with whom he shoots. Unless I forget badly, the primer cap once discharged stays attached to the casing, so all you're missing is the actual "bullet". Sculpt something outta greenstuff, or grab a grot head, or something suitably orky, pop it on the casing in place of the bullet and you're set.

.22 shells are too small for a right 'un propa' storm boyz pack, I would recomend 9mm for big and stocky, when your friend goes to the range look around for the expended cartridges and greenstuff it, trust me .22 is not orky enough
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What you need is to make killa kans out of shotgun shells.

Seriously though, I wouldn't risk this.

Do not use the bullets use the casings so you don't blow your fingers off.

Take the round out and the gun powder. Throw the rounds near a small fire and the primer will detonate. The primer on a .22 is so small it has less explosive power than a extremely small fire cracker.

9mm or .38 is a better size. Either scrounge some used ones or just buy some new empty cases (they're cheap and legal with no safety concerns at all)

Yes don't worry I am not just going to pull them out of the box and mount them on my boyz, would make a hot summer day dangerous in my car! But they can be tooled to be harmless and I think that will be how I make mah stormboyz! And I def like the Idea of shotgun shell kans, brilliance!

Just to clarify, ask the owner or read the box if you don't know. Are we talking?

.22 LR <-- Too small

.223 <-- Too Long

.22 Win Mag <-- Too Long

A pair of .22 LR side by side on an Orks back would look great as a double stack jetpack though. I personally like the empty casings used as scenery i.e. spent artilary rounds.

BTW a spent .45 on the back of a Nob would be da Most Orkyest!

well the problem with .22LR is that they are rim-fire, this means that the blasting material is woven through the metal on the base, you will want to ignite these before you use them, one thing you can do in the spirit of the other ideas is to order a lot of .22lr slugs, just the projectile itself, and then ask your roomie to bring you a few dozen expended shells, then you glue the new tip onto the old fired and inert shell and you are safe and still looking good, you can also purchase dummy rounds off of the internet for pretty cheap as well; http://www.rimfiresports.com/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=RSC&Product_Code=22LR%20DUMMIES

Just use a couple 3 or 4 of the .22 for the rokkit packs. That is right N propa for Orks anyways.
And seriously, everytime someone comes up with this idea, a whole bunch of you get on here yacking about how dangerous the unspent casings can be. Seriously, its not dangerous as long as there isnt a bullet in it. Unless he plays on a table made of real fire, OR a table with real smashing machines that may set the primers off. Im sorry but empty bullet casings dont normally just go off when glued to a mini.

KingCracker wrote:Just use a couple 3 or 4 of the .22 for the rokkit packs. That is right N propa for Orks anyways.
And seriously, everytime someone comes up with this idea, a whole bunch of you get on here yacking about how dangerous the unspent casings can be. Seriously, its not dangerous as long as there isnt a bullet in it. Unless he plays on a table made of real fire, OR a table with real smashing machines that may set the primers off. Im sorry but empty bullet casings dont normally just go off when glued to a mini.

But wouldnt it be the greatest to declare your WAAAAAAGH, light one on fire and watch it blow a hole through the table? I actually think I will do this.

KingCracker wrote:Unless he plays on a table made of real fire, OR a table with real smashing machines that may set the primers off. Im sorry but empty bullet casings dont normally just go off when glued to a mini.

I was in the Army and a cop for years and you would be suprised when a primer charge will go off. Only a idoit would glue a live round to a model with any type of explosive charge no matter how small it is and then take it out in public. I don't think your FLGS owner will be too happy with you when he is filling out his insurence paperwork when SOME ONE LOSES AN DIGIT OR AN EYE! Darwin awards here you come.

On the subject of explosives. Has anyone on Dakka Dakka strapped a bottle rocket to an ork and launched it? If not I am making a video this 4th of July.

If this theory was continued throughout 40k, a deathstrike missile launcher would be interesting project.

Or even a Vortex Missile. On a 2+ remove the FLGS and replace it same size rubble terrain.

I do not recommend this at all – if you want I can post an image of what a priming charge can do to the human body. Its nasty. If you feel compelled to do it – Id use a spent casing and use greenstuff to replace the bullet. An empty casing is not the same thing as a spent casing.

Please – don’t do use live ammo – the fact that in your first post you didn’t mention the primer gives me great concern.

Today on Mister Wizards World, we're going to mix live ammo and miniatures that look like kids toys...

kaiservonhugal wrote:Please – don’t do use live ammo – the fact that in your first post you didn’t mention the primer gives me great concern.

What scares me is the people telling him not to worry about the priming charge. I should give them a pair of sissors and tell them it is ok to run around with them.

Everybody stop.

For those of you who aren't familiar with rimfire cartridges, they can go off if you look at them wrong. DO NOT use unfired .22 rounds for anything other than sticking them into a .22 pistol or rifle and shooting them.

That being said. .22 rounds would make fantastic bits for terrain and modeling, and because rimfire shells are almost untouched when they are fired (just a small divot at the base) they would be great to use. As was mentioned, you can buy slugs and put them into pre-fired shells or even use the empty shells and some GS.

But please, for the love of your big toe (or your friend's) don't use unfired shells.

Pipboy101 wrote:

kaiservonhugal wrote:Please – don’t do use live ammo – the fact that in your first post you didn’t mention the primer gives me great concern.

What scares me is the people telling him not to worry about the priming charge. I should give them a pair of sissors and tell them it is ok to run around with them.

Well have fun with your scissors experiment, and congrats on being a cop and all that. But Ive been around guns my whole life, all my buddies were raised the same way. We used to play with flair guns with homemade blank shot gun shells. And yes Ive shot off completely empty SHOTGUN shells with just a primer. You guys talking about loosing fingers and such should also be just terrified of tomcats and regular firecrackers! Seeing as those are way more bang then a shotgun primer.
Im pretty sure the OP would be sad if a .22 primer went off and it separated his nicely made stormboy, but thats about all that will happen.

The powder fumes and residue do fly out at a high speed and if it hits the eye it can cause lacerations and burns to the eye. Unless the round is completely emptied and cleans of gunpowder then it can have enough force to expel the round in a random direction since there is no barrel to direct the round. Also, the residue can still fly out land on a table, terrain or near modeling chemicals and start a fire.

I worked a gunshot case where the victim was reloading rounds and a .22 primer charge went off and blew off the last end of his finger.

Suggesting anyone to use any part of a bullet is not been fired is not only irresponsible but downright dangerous. Any shop owner seeing that should have the person remove the model from the store as quickly and safely as possible since it is still classified as unexploded ordnance.

KingCracker,

Just because nothing ever happened to you when you and your friends played with this stuff doesn't mean it was safe - only that you were all lucky. I'm gonna have to go with Pipboy on this one.

Stay away from the bullets.

Solorg wrote:KingCracker,

Just because nothing ever happened to you when you and your friends played with this stuff doesn't mean it was safe - only that you were all lucky. I'm gonna have to go with Pipboy on this one.

Stay away from the bullets.

Ditto. May I suggest researching the name Jon-Erik Hexum. Sometimes a bone-headed idea is compounded by things going even more horribly wrong. Keep the odds in your favor OP. If you insist on a cool effect Storm Boy, research the right materials. Cannibalized bullets are not the right materials.

That isnt that actor that shot himself dead with a blank, trying to play a prank was it?

KingCracker wrote:That isnt that actor that shot himself dead with a blank, trying to play a prank was it?

yep

And please don't misunderstand. I have had my share of boneheaded ideas, just not involving firearms.

Would a flair gun be considered a firearm per say? Seriously Im just busting everyones balls. I personally wouldnt use anything short of already fired, I was just saying it isnt a common thing for that to happen.
Also what the hell was that guy thinking?

KingCracker wrote:...what the hell was that guy thinking?

Yeah no kidding