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Zombies are awesome.
This thread is for talking about zombies, any sort.
For a start, I will say this:

Are there any good zombie games/books/comics out there?

Any zombie board games you would recomend to a person?

I wrote a poem about zombies, here it is:
It starts to rain,
Three pellets through his brain,
Boom! another falls,
Its brain in a loom,
Crap, reload,
Snap! the blood flowed,
This poem is about the living dead,
You should know this,
For they are about to be fed
How is the poem? what does it need?

I think zombies have gotten too much attention. We need a return to the good old days of werewolves and vampires (apart from Underworld).

Cheese Elemental wrote:I think zombies have gotten too much attention. We need a return to the good old days of werewolves and vampires (apart from Underworld).

Well, us horror people have to fall back to zombies or *hurls* be a twight weirdo.
AND, zombies are newer than vampires and werewolves, and I also think the fact zombies are more scary than others, because they, in most movies, can end the world as we know it.

lord of the ghosts wrote:

Cheese Elemental wrote:I think zombies have gotten too much attention. We need a return to the good old days of werewolves and vampires (apart from Underworld).

Well, us horror people have to fall back to zombies or *hurls* be a twight weirdo.
AND, zombies are newer than vampires and werewolves, and I also think the fact zombies are more scary than others, because they, in most movies, can end the world as we know it.

Vampires could feth over the world with ease. What do you do when everyone in power is a vampire? When everyone in the military is a vampire? Zombies, at least, are stupid and don't make cunning plans.

Cheese Elemental wrote:

lord of the ghosts wrote:

Cheese Elemental wrote:I think zombies have gotten too much attention. We need a return to the good old days of werewolves and vampires (apart from Underworld).

Well, us horror people have to fall back to zombies or *hurls* be a twight weirdo.
AND, zombies are newer than vampires and werewolves, and I also think the fact zombies are more scary than others, because they, in most movies, can end the world as we know it.

Vampires could feth over the world with ease. What do you do when everyone in power is a vampire? When everyone in the military is a vampire? Zombies, at least, are stupid and don't make cunning plans.

Which is why zombies are scarier!! Were do they come from? US!! Would you rather be a mindless, hungry, undead thing, or a vampire, a smart, almost human undead thing?

Zombies are a sign that the world is gonna end, and soon. For that alone they are useful.

Zombies are unrealistic and overrated.

The only reason they always win in movies is for dramatic effect. I think the military is more than a match for zombies.

Cheese Elemental wrote:Zombies are unrealistic and overrated.

The only reason they always win in movies is for dramatic effect. I think the military is more than a match for zombies.

Of couse they are.

Yes, of course they are. Last time I checked, zombies aren't exactly bulletproof.

Nor can they fly.

Or operate vehicles.

Or boats.

Or firearms.

I hope that 2012 ends up being a Zombie Apoc.

Ah.... but to dream, but to dream.

What is it with wargamers and apocalyptic fantasies?

And what's with the assumption that it'd be fun and games?

Cheese Elemental wrote:What is it with wargamers and apocalyptic fantasies?

And what's with the assumption that it'd be fun and games?

It's the lack of moral ambiguity. You can blast away at Zombies all day and not feel one twinge of guilt.

Who gakked in your cornflakes this morning, cheese? You seem kind of grumpy.

That said, anyone who's into Zombies should pick up the short story anthology 'The Living Dead'. It's got a few amazing stories, several great ones, some good ones, and then some other stories (including one by clive barker). Not to be missed by Zombie fans.

I especially recommend Meathouse Man and Stockholm Syndrome.

warpcrafter wrote:

Cheese Elemental wrote:What is it with wargamers and apocalyptic fantasies?

And what's with the assumption that it'd be fun and games?

It's the lack of moral ambiguity. You can blast away at Zombies all day and not feel one twinge of guilt.

Someone doesn't like people.

Golden Eyed Scout wrote:I hope that 2012 ends up being a Zombie Apoc.

Ah.... but to dream, but to dream.

Me too.

Orkestra wrote:Who gakked in your cornflakes this morning, cheese? You seem kind of grumpy.

I don't like stupid repeat threads or the people who post them.

Cheese Elemental wrote:What is it with wargamers and apocalyptic fantasies?

And what's with the assumption that it'd be fun and games?

I fantasize about it because it gives my insignificant life some greater meaning, in that I might actually be doing something.

Besides, I like when stuff gets tough and screwed up. Makes me work to acheive something.

Golden Eyed Scout wrote:

Cheese Elemental wrote:What is it with wargamers and apocalyptic fantasies?

And what's with the assumption that it'd be fun and games?

I fantasize about it because it gives my insignificant life some greater meaning, in that I might actually be doing something.

Besides, I like when stuff gets tough and screwed up. Makes me work to acheive something.

Last time I checked, employment is doing something, especially as a 'public servant' (and no, I don't mean prostitutes...).

I hope it's Ragnarok.


Zombies are overhyped.

Giant chaotic monsters and nonstop slaughter sound's appealing to Shadowbrand.

Cheese Elemental wrote:Zombies are unrealistic and overrated.

The only reason they always win in movies is for dramatic effect. I think the military is more than a match for zombies.

Cheese,I honestly belive you should rethink your posistion concerning military effectivness in crisis situations,I witnessed how effective the national guard and military response was in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina...it was less than impressive,and that was in a limited affected area,and no one was eating each other or spreading a plague that expands geometricly increasing "enemy" numbers.

The truth is,the military would not have the resources (short of nuking) to deal with a zombie outbreak,the military can not be on every block of every city of every state....zombies could.
Zombies will never suffer from combat fatigue or mental breakdown from seeing their buddies torn apart and get back up to join the ranks of the undead,zombies don't have chain of command that can break down or bureaucracy to slow them down,they exsit for one reason....to eat you alive.

Cheese Elemental wrote:

Golden Eyed Scout wrote:

Cheese Elemental wrote:What is it with wargamers and apocalyptic fantasies?

And what's with the assumption that it'd be fun and games?

I fantasize about it because it gives my insignificant life some greater meaning, in that I might actually be doing something.

Besides, I like when stuff gets tough and screwed up. Makes me work to acheive something.

Last time I checked, employment is doing something, especially as a 'public servant' (and no, I don't mean prostitutes...).

I've already applied a few places... they are content to hire Johnnie Stoner over a responsible, hard working, fifteen year old. Damned if I know though.

FITZZ wrote:torn apart and get back up to join the ranks of the undead

lolwut

1. Zombies are fictional and we wouldn't even have a concept of the 'pop culture' zombies if not for the likes of Romero.
2. How would zombies fare against heavily-armed military personnel? I seem to remember assault rifles and tanks being more effective weapons than bare hands.

You couldn't compare a fictional outbreak of mindless zombies to a hurricane. One can be killed, the other is a force of nature.

Honestly, the crap that zombie films pull is getting ridiculous. The original Night of the Living Dead was a good zombie movie because it wasn't so ridiculous. The zombies defeated the humans in that film because it was a small, mostly defenceless town that was attacked and the goddamn police or whatever they were cleared out the zombies with ease afterwards. Now we have all this stupid gak about rabies. It doesn't work that way.

A shambling, mindless corpse is no match for a man toting an assault rifle.

I wasn't exactly comparing zombies to a hurricane (although with some suspension of disbelife this could be done),I was attempting to use the situation as an example of the lack of military response time in crisis situations.
Zombies would actualy fair much better than you belive against modern military wepons,as most are designed to be used in anti-personal capacity,for example,a fragmentation grenade..while it would do horrible thing to you or me..unless it destroyed the zombies brain, the zombie would not be botherd by having its arm blown off..or its legs,it would continue to function.
And again,as I stated before,the military can't be everywere...they don't have the numbers.
And yes,of course zombies are fictional,the same as vampires,werewolves and the "fluff" behind the little plastic men we all spend so much money on.

Night of the living dead was amazing. I agree that it is the best zombie movie one can watch.

No one is saying that a single zombie can kill a single trained soldier with any likelihood. However, a single zombie can kill a defenceless regular person. Then those two zombies can go and kill two more people. Then those four go and kill four more. Then that one soldier (who isn't in the norm) has more than one zombie to worry about, and might be a little upset when his mother comes shambling around the corner to eat his brain.

I recommend reading the Zombie Survival Guide and World War Z by Max Brooks. I think he gives a very realistic description of what would happen when the American Military tries to stop a zombie horde that just ate New York. It works up to a point, then eventually fails due to morale and enemy numbers.

The thing about zombies is that there are billions of people on earth. Many cities have millions of inhabitants. Now, if zombies show up, there can be tens of thousands (realistically) in that city in a short amount of time. Yes, militaries are equipped to deal death on a surprising scale, but are they prepared to eliminate tens of thousands of enemies in a small area? Especially enemies with no morale (only hunger) and who are immensely resistant to tissue damage and immune to shock (the real killer on a battlefield). Blood loss also doesn't faze them.

Those bombs that cause damage primarily through shrapnel don't seem so useful now, do they?

FITZZ wrote:
And yes,of course zombies are fictional,the same as vampires,werewolves and the "fluff" behind the little plastic men we all spend so much money on.

Exactly. So why do people get all paranoid about these things? I'm a fan of the less serious zombie-related stuff like the Zombie Survival Guide by Max Brooks, but when I hear about people making plans and even looking foward to it, that's when I start to worry about their mental state.

But enough of this arguing. I favor the 'Romero shamblers', not all these stupid sprinting zombies. After all, you can't possibly run if you're decomposing.


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Orkestra wrote:
No one is saying that a single zombie can kill a single trained soldier with any likelihood. However, a single zombie can kill a defenceless regular person. Then those two zombies can go and kill two more people. Then those four go and kill four more. Then that one soldier (who isn't in the norm) has more than one zombie to worry about, and might be a little upset when his mother comes shambling around the corner to eat his brain.

That's assuming they just kill and infect you. Seeing as most zombies these days eat people, it doesn't make much sense that the horde grows that fast.

Furthermore, nobody has a realistic idea of what would happen in a zombie outbreak because it's never happened and the only concept of one that we might have is derived from films and video games.

It's no different from high fantasy or science-fantasy. The zombie apocalypse dreaming and fanwanking that goes on here is ridiculous.

I agree with you about the "Romero" shamblers Cheese,IMO they represent what zombies in film should be.
As to the different reasons people are zombie fans/fanatics,I'd hazzard to say that they are as diverse as the people themselves.
People emerse themselves into all sorts of "distractions"..zombies,Warhammer 40k,sex,for most it's all a fun escape...for others,meh.

Hmph. My mother says that all the zombie fandom is similar to what was going on from the 50's-90's (she was born in the 50's, with all the panic over Sputnik) with the Cold War. People were totally overreacting and building bunkers and arming themselves for a Soviet invasion.

Paranoia does funny things to people. I'm still curious as to why it's nerds who are drawn to the idea of zombies though. Something to do with social alienation perhaps?

I'm not sure Cheese,I've never been all that socialy alienated,I've always had a fairly large circle of friends,played in bands since I was a teenager,always did well with women (well except for those two divorces) and I've loved zombies since the first time I saw Night of the Living Dead way back in the 70's...maybe I'm just warped.

Your Mothers right about the "paranoia" during the cold war,I was a teenager in the 80s and remember thinking that nukes would be falling on us at any minute,and of course the government did little to eliviate those worries.

Mummies are quite a bit scarier than zombies. Not only are do they have magic powers, but they're also really rich, and can like, buy jet fighters and stuff.

I'm going to build my basement fortress to keep them out instead.

Orkeosaurus wrote:Mummies are quite a bit scarier than zombies. Not only are do they have magic powers, but they're also really rich, and can like, buy jet fighters and stuff.

I'm going to build my basement fortress to keep them out instead.

Ahh,but can't mummies ( according to current lore) transform into swirling sand "demons",they could easily breach your basement fortifications.


On a side note: I belive one of the things that makes zombies "scary" is that they are the only "monster" that REALLY comes looking for you,with most other monsters there's only one (or limited numbers) and they(for the most part) only eat/kill what they happen upon,or whoever is foolish enough to go into the woods/castle/pyrimid,etc.
Zombies however, have numbers and one sole pourpose,they come looking for you.