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What is your favorite member of the Ruinous Powers? I'm thinking about building a new army, and wondering what other people think about the Chaos deities. And, for the reason I posted this in the 40k Background section, why is your choice your favorite? I'm not trying to find out what people play, just what Chaos deity they like the most, and the reasons they like it.

Nurgle. In the end there is only death.

Tzeentch is described as the Chaos god of Change, Ambition, Knowledge, Hope and Sorcery. His titles include the Changer of Ways, the Architect of Fate and the Great Sorceror. Tzeentch excels in subtle machinations and is patron to schemers and conspirators of all sorts and he favours the clever over the strong.

Born out of the survivalist emotion of Hope, Tzeentch is the greatest of the four great Chaos Gods of the Warp. Tzeentch is the Warp God of change, sorcery, Machiavellian scheming, power craving and subtle manipulation. He bears the titles of "the Changer of Ways", "the Architect of Fate", "the Weaver of Destiny", "the Herald of Hope", "the Grand Schemer", "the Great Conspirator", "the Great Mutator" and "the Lord of Sorcery"

The emotion that is most closely associated with Tzeentch is hope. Tzeentch represents the hopeful dreams and aspirations of mortals run entirely out of control. He is the will to change and evolve, to improve and to build, to cunningly outmaneuver others. Anyone who ever hoped to improve their station in life unknowingly empowers Tzeentch. It is in the hearts of those with the strongest desire to prevail that Tzeentch whispers his insidious promise: the means to life eternal for those unwilling to accept death and oblivion as inevitable. This refusal to accept the inevitable makes Tzeentch the opposite and nemesis of the Chaos God Nurgle.

There is a way through the coming darkness.

But to find it we must change.

We must change and change until Change is our master. For nothing neither god nor mortal can hold that which has no form.

Change is the constant that cannot be changed.

KILL MAIM BURN KILL MAIM BURN

BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!

SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE!

HARRIERS FOR THE CUP!

I'd say Khorne, closely followed by Tzeentch

Tzeentch because of victory through smarts and trickery. >=)

Well let's think...
KHORNE: No. I don't even like work.
NURGLE: I already smell like gak on weekends, so...
TZEENTCH: No. Math is hard.
SLAANESH: More glamourous than smelling like gak, hedonistic, precocious....easy peasy.
In other words: Slaanesh.

Canuck: I always thought that death was Khorne's thing. Nurgle's influence ends at death. I kind of thought Nurgle was all about the decay, the lead up to death, but never actually granting the release that death would bring. Ironically, Nurgle seems to promote life (in a twisted, perverse kind of way).

Am I wrong on this?

Jimsolo wrote:Canuck: I always thought that death was Khorne's thing. Nurgle's influence ends at death. I kind of thought Nurgle was all about the decay, the lead up to death, but never actually granting the release that death would bring. Ironically, Nurgle seems to promote life (in a twisted, perverse kind of way).

Am I wrong on this?

Depends how you look at it.

Is Nugle the God of Death and Decay? Yes, most certainly.

If you look at his followers they are all decaying, rotten,, plagued and so on.
But if you look at his opponents they all die because of the diseases his soldiers/minions carry.

So on the one hand you have the god of decay, which infects his minions with diseases but doesn't kill them (in most cases anyway) while on the other hand you have the god of death, which kills his enemies through the same diseases his minions are able to withstand (in most cases at least).

In the end Nugle is a double edge sword (like all chaos gods) worship him and live, even if its not a very pleasant life. Defy him and you die, in a most agonising way.

Nurgle's minions are already dead. They're walking dead.

Gork and Mork.

Melissia wrote:Gork and Mork.

Get out of here heretic.

You're the heretic dude

Melissia wrote:You're the heretic dude

NOT IN THIS THREAD.

Besides, Codex: Orks does in fact say that Gork and Mork exist as gods in the warp.

Melissia wrote:Besides, Codex: Orks does in fact say that Gork and Mork exist as gods in the warp.

The Emperor and every human soul also exist in the warp, do you call them Chaos Gods?

Gork and Mork are warp entities, but not the specific four Gods known as "Chaos Gods" by the parameters of this thread.

I totally take back my comments, Canuck. I reread my info from my sources, and I had my supposition ass backwards. *bow* Forgiveness please.

The Chaos Gods are nothing more than a reflection of every mortal's deepest darkest emotions.

So the question is really, what emotion resonates most with you?

It's less Khorne, Tzeentch, Nurgle, Slaanesh and more

Anger?
Hope?
Despair?
Desire?

No, as the Emperor was once a living being. The Chaos Gods are reflections of the emotions of the various mortal races-- and Gork and Mork are the reflections of the emotions and subconscious of Orks.

Malal.

Melissia wrote:No, as the Emperor was once a living being. The Chaos Gods are reflections of the emotions of the various mortal races-- and Gork and Mork are the reflections of the emotions and subconscious of Orks.

Yeah well no one cares about Orks! You're still a heretic! AWAY VILE WOMAN!

garret wrote:Malal.

agreed

Melissia wrote:Besides, Codex: Orks does in fact say that Gork and Mork exist as gods in the warp.

Gork and Mork are incarnated as cunningly brutal and brutally cunning, right? Sounds like Khorne and Tzeentch rip-offs to me turned slowed by the Ork brain...

Anyway, back to actual Chaos Gods. I voted Slaanesh. I'm addicted to sex.

Their called Orcs for feths sake! What the hell are orks anyways?

I guess now it would be obvious I am Khorne.

Jimsolo wrote:Canuck: I always thought that death was Khorne's thing. Nurgle's influence ends at death. I kind of thought Nurgle was all about the decay, the lead up to death, but never actually granting the release that death would bring. Ironically, Nurgle seems to promote life (in a twisted, perverse kind of way).

Am I wrong on this?

Nurgle's abilities end at death, but not in the way that actually sounds. Of all the Dark Gods, Nurgle is a creator. He creates viruses and bacteria, which are the simplest of living things, but yet they also destroy much more complicated life, and as such Nurgle is seen as a killer instead of a creator. His powers end with life, but since he also technically creates life. Nurgle strives off of fear of desease and death, which is why his followers turn to him, they don't want to die and as such give themselves to Nurgle.

As for me, I like all the gods equally. They are all based off of flaws in the human psyche, Khorne being blind rage that leads to regret, Nurgle being fear, Slaanesh as uncontrollable fetishes, and Tzeentch as a power lust. All four can be used to great effect, but if you're not careful, they will destroy you. To put it simply: The Dark Gods embody those perfect imperfections of the human race. You hate them, and those who succomb to them, but you can't help but feel sorry for them too.

Slaanesh. He/She/It promotes sex, drugs and noise, what more could you want? I also got an excuse to put an electric guitar on one of my models (my Noise Champion).

Malal! The aspect of Chaos turning on itself.

Zed wrote:Slaanesh. He/She/It promotes sex, drugs and noise, what more could you want? I also got an excuse to put an electric guitar on one of my models (my Noise Champion).

Off Topic, but that has some basis to it, as the first ever Sonic Blasters were just instruments that were at too high of a pitch that burst eyeballs and caused people to bleed out of every orifice.

Slarg232 wrote:

Jimsolo wrote:Canuck: I always thought that death was Khorne's thing. Nurgle's influence ends at death. I kind of thought Nurgle was all about the decay, the lead up to death, but never actually granting the release that death would bring. Ironically, Nurgle seems to promote life (in a twisted, perverse kind of way).

Am I wrong on this?

Nurgle's abilities end at death, but not in the way that actually sounds. Of all the Dark Gods, Nurgle is a creator. He creates viruses and bacteria, which are the simplest of living things, but yet they also destroy much more complicated life, and as such Nurgle is seen as a killer instead of a creator. His powers end with life, but since he also technically creates life. Nurgle strives off of fear of desease and death, which is why his followers turn to him, they don't want to die and as such give themselves to Nurgle.

As for me, I like all the gods equally. They are all based off of flaws in the human psyche, Khorne being blind rage that leads to regret, Nurgle being fear, Slaanesh as uncontrollable fetishes, and Tzeentch as a power lust. All four can be used to great effect, but if you're not careful, they will destroy you. To put it simply: The Dark Gods embody those perfect imperfections of the human race. You hate them, and those who succomb to them, but you can't help but feel sorry for them too.

Tzeentch is much more of a creator than Nurgle. Nurgle's powers are fear and despair but also stagnation, apathy and acceptance of what is.

Tzeentch is a blazing furnace of creation. Everchanging growth and evolution. Tzeentch is creation gone wildly out of control, as all the hopes and dreams of mortals are unleashed to their fullest potential. He's constantly creating intricate plans and weaving new webs of deception. He's curiosity and knowledge taken to their farthest extremes.

You know Lords of Change come up with 100+ new names and titles for themselves every day, Horrors and Flamers recreate their bodies in a new way every few seconds

Dr. Cheesesteak wrote:Gork and Mork are incarnated as cunningly brutal and brutally cunning, right? Sounds like Khorne and Tzeentch rip-offs to me turned slowed by the Ork brain...

Arguably, Khorne is a weaker variant of Gork . Back when the Orks were created, the chaos gods were in their infancy and Slaanesh had certainly not been born yet. Back then, they were the Krork mind you.