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OK anyone who watched this amazing comeback has to be amazed at the incredibly BAD refereeing from the official. Phantom fouls are in...I guess. Not to mention that half of the US team were practically arm tackled by the thug slovenians.

sighhh


GG

Here's a link to a video of that final goal that was disallowed:

http://g.sports.yahoo.com/soccer/world-cup/blog/dirty-tackle/post/Referee-costs-U-S-win-can-t-stifle-massive-com?urn=sow,249575

Apparently, the referee, who is behind all of the players involved in the play, called Edu off side, even though the side judge did not raise his flag. Watch the video and see if you agree with the call.

Also, note the missed call on the bear-hug by the Slovenian player on the US player right in front of the ref.

Oh bawwwww.

This isn't robbed.

Robbed is when they fixed the 2002 World Cup to let Korea and Japan get into the later rounds.

By the end of it, Vieri had to tell the crowd to be quiet when he scored, just in case it was "offside".

RIOT!!!!!
(what are we rioting about again?)

Frazzled wrote:RIOT!!!!!
(what are we rioting about again?)

Lakers playof win.

Gwar! wrote:Oh bawwwww.

This isn't robbed.

Robbed is when they fixed the 2002 World Cup to let Korea and Japan get into the later rounds.

By the end of it, Vieri had to tell the crowd to be quiet when he scored, just in case it was "offside".

Ok, I agree, there are some cases that are equally egregious if not worse,

But, do you agree, Gwar!, that the ref completely blew the call? I mean, Edu was crossing right in front of the referee when the free kick was struck, with a half a dozen Slovenia defenders between him and the goal, yet the ref still called him off side.

I have no idea. This is the first World Cup I have been alive for I am not watching, because of those bloody horns.

Gwar! wrote:I have no idea. This is the first World Cup I have been alive for I am not watching, because of those bloody horns.

Know what you mean. Those horns in the background remind me of a horde of mosquitoes buzzing around in the background.

Hehe...the video link I posted above has no sound, so you can watch the play in question, and not have to listen to the horns

ShumaGorath wrote:

Frazzled wrote:RIOT!!!!!
(what are we rioting about again?)

Lakers playof win.

excellent. You can't have an LA team win something without a riot and at least 13 people shot.

When you look at all the angles he does not seem to be offside.

Well, now you understand the meaning of the phrase "it was the ref wot won it."

The Yanks did get robbed. Indeed, they deserve to be in the finals far more than the nancy boys in the England team, and i have thoroughly enjoyed watching them play like retards this afternoon, i dont subscribe to any of this pansy @unfair@ talk, either you earn your place or you dont, and i shall be supporting our colonial friends in the next round methinks, regardless of if England qualify or not.


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And well done Algeria, a fine display. England have the attacking talent of a sack of cabbages, and when Cappelo plays the exact same team as Mclaren i am truly stunned that people think it is bizzare when they play as poorly as they did.

WTF? England drew against Algeria??

Can't say I saw that one coming.

Hopefully, both USA and England win the next game; I just hope that USA beats Algeria by more goals than England beats Slovenia

All England and USA have to do is win their last game and they will move on.

I think both of them will move on, although slovenia is pretty good so I think the 3 lions will have it tougher.

GG


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Saldiven wrote:WTF? England drew against Algeria??

Can't say I saw that one coming.

Hopefully, both USA and England win the next game; I just hope that USA beats Algeria by more goals than England beats Slovenia

Well the USA ia already up by 2 goals over England, so they would have to score A LOT of goals to over take the USA.

GG

Hrm. I thought it was goal differential, not goals scored.

If it's goal differential, USA and England are even, since we both have a goal differential of 0.

Saldiven wrote:Hrm. I thought it was goal differential, not goals scored.

If it's goal differential, USA and England are even, since we both have a goal differential of 0.

The ranking of each team in each group will be determined as follows:

a) greatest number of points obtained in all group matches;
b) goal difference in all group matches;
c) greatest number of goals scored in all group matches.
If two or more teams are equal on the basis of the above three criteria, their rankings will be determined as follows:
d) greatest number of points obtained in the group matches between the teams concerned;
e) goal difference resulting from the group matches between the teams concerned;
f) greater number of goals scored in all group matches between the teams concerned;
g) drawing of lots by the FIFA Organising Committee.

Hi Generalgrog

yup you wuz robbed mate!
good effort to come from two - nil down and after an indifferent first half performance.

The refereeing is a bit unpredictable so far.
The South African goalie was unlucky to get sent off imho.

Okay Soccer. You've done it. You have convinced me that it may actually be worth turning my head around from my computer screen and pretend to be concerned about your sport.

And given my illegible and utterly worthless knowledge on soccer as a whole, but I cannot say for sure if the United States should be awarded a goal or not. Obviously people are making a big fuss about it, but keep in mind that the USA allowed two goals in the first whatever period of time soccer calls it.

Football is a game of two halves Warone!

Chibi Bodge-Battle wrote:Football is a game of two halves Warone!

One half mental, one half physical?

To be honest, it was confusing because the time clock does not expire, it only goes UP. And even when I thought there would be an end at the 90 minute mark, they continued to play AND when I attempted to surmise how long an "overtime" lasted, the referee called the game in a tie about FOUR minutes and change into "overtime."

It's injury time mate, to allow for stopages, like when players roll around holding their knee.

We don't have sponsrship breaks unless you are watching on ITV3

This is a group stage where the teams play each other so a draw is possible.

From the next round it will be a knockout competition.
No draws (oo-er missus) so if it is tied after 90 minutes it will go to extra time (15 minutes each way) if it is still tied then it will be decided on a penalty shoot out.

I think they may be using some golden goal concept which is for cissies, whereby in extra time first goal wins the game.

There is no such thing as a mental game, not enough footballers have sufficient grey matter.
fwiw my reference was to a footballing cliche.

Chibi Bodge-Battle wrote:I think they may be using some golden goal concept which is for cissies, whereby in extra time first goal wins the game.

In America, we call that "Sudden Death" overtime.

get used to getting robbed....us Irish know all about it. DAMN FRENCH!

The irony is that Ireland would have fared better in the finals than France has so far!

Yeah Sudden Death is the usual term for that sort of thing but "Golden Goal" seems to have been chosen by the PR chaps at FIFA

I thought we were calling it ''Sudden Victory'' these days?

also, while I agree that sucks to have that goal called off, I still think it was nice just to come back from 2 goals down!

Yes, the USA would have won if the goal was given. They also would have won if they had conceded less goals than Slovenia. England would have won if Green hadn't let in that soft goal. We also would have won if we had scored more goals than the USA.

Welcome to football.

Gwar! wrote:

Saldiven wrote:Hrm. I thought it was goal differential, not goals scored.

If it's goal differential, USA and England are even, since we both have a goal differential of 0.

The ranking of each team in each group will be determined as follows:

a) greatest number of points obtained in all group matches;
b) goal difference in all group matches;
c) greatest number of goals scored in all group matches.
If two or more teams are equal on the basis of the above three criteria, their rankings will be determined as follows:
d) greatest number of points obtained in the group matches between the teams concerned;
e) goal difference resulting from the group matches between the teams concerned;
f) greater number of goals scored in all group matches between the teams concerned;
g) drawing of lots by the FIFA Organising Committee.

So if England and the US both draw their games they'll be drawing lots to see who goes into the next round. Sweet.

That only happens if, whilst both games are draws, England managed to improve their goals scored to equal the USA: If England draw 2-2, and the USA draw 0-0 for example.

Frazzled wrote:

ShumaGorath wrote:

Frazzled wrote:RIOT!!!!!
(what are we rioting about again?)

Lakers playof win.

excellent. You can't have an LA team win something without a riot and at least 13 people shot.

I thought that was called 'Tuesday'?

J.Black wrote:That only happens if, whilst both games are draws, England managed to improve their goals scored to equal the USA: If England draw 2-2, and the USA draw 0-0 for example.

Ah, yes, you're right. Well then I'm barracking for 2-2 and 0-0.

Lotto/toss of the coin is typically so unimaginative of FIFA.

If that scenario arises, then a William Tell Shoot out by the managers should take place. Tie the Team Captain to a goalpost and put an apple on his head.

Potshots from the penalty spot.
If both players gets hit go through teams till there are none left. If you hit the apple you win. Otherwise it it is literally last man standing.