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wizard12 wrote:Well, with the launch of the "new" Xbox which apparently whisper quite it should only be slightly louder than a PS3 considering that your standard 360 makes a HUGE amount of noise.

I own a PS3 and a 360. The PS3 is far, far louder. I do not hear my 360, even with a fan attached to it. Your example is flawed.

On top of this, I feel that when compared, our graphics are slightly better, the Xbox has some nice cut scenes, but nothing in game that is particularly amazing.

Uh, graphics in game are actually the same for all intents and purposes. The only real difference is going to be "HURR! 3D! HURR!" crap that Sony's pushing.

Next, I'll move onto the move and kinect systems. The move is cheaper while the kinect costs more, much like the PS3 compared to the Xbox. I have yet to see any games on the move, but the ones I see on the kinect system, I may as well use a wii for those as it seems they're just copying some of the most well known games from Nintendo. May I mention the wii is much cheaper and the most family friendly of these 3 systems but doesn’t have the graphics or game support that the PS3 and Xbox have.

The Move is cheaper for one unit. Each Move requires two controllers at $50+$30 each+the initial investment of an EyeToy(no word yet on if EACH Move requires an EyeToy, or if it can track multiples. If each Move requires an EyeToy, you're looking at either buying an $80 PER person bundle to use the Move...alongside of getting endless amounts of bundled copies of the Sony WiiSports). Kinect supports 4 people/per unit @ $159.99.

Next, the exclusivity. Yes, you guys have halo an Fable, but the age of Xbox exclusivity is ending as the makers of halo (Bungie) leave to works with Activion, several games pledging exclusive support for the PS3 (Ex:Medal of honour on the PS3 also give a remastered version of MoH frontline)

lolwut? Exclusivity, period, for the titles themselves is coming to an end. Metal Gear is launching on 360, Mass Effect 3 looks set to launch on PS3, etc.

The only "exclusive" is going to be DLC and when it's launched. Activision, for example, has signed it so all Call of Duty content is launching on 360 first, months in advance.

Finally, Xbox does, I admit, have a better multi-player service but you have to pay for it.

And you definitely get what you pay for. Not only does Live give you access to a buttload of DLC, but it also allows for downloading/streaming movies, TV shows, etc.

Of course that's also going to be rolled into the Playstation Plus service...which apparently you have to...

*gasp*
Pay for!

Uh, I don't know what PS3 games you've been playing but there's nothing really innovative.

Killzone was PS2, and that wasn't actually anything new.

Operation: Snowblind had that same "sway" that you're discussing.

You really need to do some factchecking before you post.

Halo: Combat Evolved came out in 2001, for the Xbox. Halo 2 came out a few years later. Battlefield 2 for the consoles came out on the 360/PS3.

That's a pretty hefty gap for a game to "come to the consoles a year before Halo was released".

Call of Duty 2 came out in 2006, for the 360 and PS3.

"Double Eagle" isn't space battles.

It's air combat, similar to the Battle of Britain.

It's good, but you really need to actually start reading the backs of books

Except everything isn't... A large amount of the background, just like any other game, is rendered in 2D.

Hell, even the Support Drones that you get in MP are 2D until they actually enter play.

Then they lied. Because a large amount of the buildings are rendered in 2D.

HiyoshixMasa wrote:I chose PS3 because, well I own 1! Plus PS3 also has Exclusives that are just as good as Xbox 360 exclusives.

Such as:
LittleBigPlanet
Killzone 2
Metal Gear Solid 4
God of War III and a bunch of others

Of those, only four I can think of are good.

Resistance 1+2(counts as one, since they're very very similar to each other)
MGS4
Killzone 2
inFamous

Pretty much every other game on the PS3 is either completely blargh or a shared game with every other platform out there.

Which kinda negates the whole "we have better exclusives than you" angle that PS3 owners seem to take, and then leads them to their fallback of "But everything looks better on the PS3!"(which really, it doesn't. It depends on the TV you're using--a crummy TV is going to have a crummy image, period).

Well, considering that Sony is moving to a monthly fee structure--you'd be just as regretting it there too.

Except Xbox Live Gold is just as voluntary, wouldn't you say?

I mean Silver nets you the 'basics' of playing online.

Pretty sure I've seen people in-game with Silver accounts, so I highly doubt that.

LordofHats wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:Pretty sure I've seen people in-game with Silver accounts, so I highly doubt that.

XBox Live Subscriptions

Maybe the people you noticed had cards for free game time?

So, you can in fact play online with a Silver account.

I REST MY CASE!

Kanluwen wrote:

LordofHats wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:Pretty sure I've seen people in-game with Silver accounts, so I highly doubt that.

XBox Live Subscriptions

Maybe the people you noticed had cards for free game time?

So, you can in fact play online with a Silver account.

I REST MY CASE!

Do read a thread thoroughly.

Free game time+Silver account=playing on Live with a Silver account.

Magic!

And the "truly free online play" is garbage, in my experience.

Relying on players to host games, etc is an idiotic way to do it for the most part.

ShumaGorath wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:And the "truly free online play" is garbage, in my experience.

Relying on players to host games, etc is an idiotic way to do it for the most part.

Thats still truly free. Stop being hyperbolic because you were wrong, the quality of the connection is irrelevant to it's cost to the users on PSN.

There's no hyperbole involved.

I've played on both setups, and have a PSN account--and you get what you (in this case) don't pay for.

Dropped games, people closing games because they're getting beat and more.

IG_urban wrote:stinking the place up with your douche-baggery as usual I see, Shuma.

Throwing out supposedly classy insults as usual I see, Urban.

The last console I purchased was a dreamcast, and it was neato. I am fine with my pc, but I WOULD buy a PS3 for Killzone 3 and Tekken 6. If I had the extra monies.

...
You purchased a Dreamcast?

You sir, should exit this thread hanging your head in shame. Paying money for a Dreamcast...

LordofHats wrote:

halonachos wrote:Also, Mass Effect 2 is packing its bags and moving to the PS3. So Microsoft has Forza, Gears of War, Halo, and Fable still.

Are they releasing ME1 too? I gotta tell you, the default story build isn't the best

It's not happening until Mass Effect 3(which is what's releasing on the PS3, with ME+ME2 potentially being released).

As to the number of console exclusives...

360(discounting XBL Arcade games) has 66 exclusives, available pretty much worldwide.

PS3 has 116 exclusives, but the issue is that a large number of them are exclusive to one region only.

You do realize that's a collection of animated shorts, not a game...right?

halonachos wrote:

johnscott10 wrote:

halonachos wrote:Microsoft supports Justin Bieber's "My World" tour.

I dont think many people would care about that. Whats microsoft gonna get more attention for?? Bieber or their Xbox?? I have to say Xbox wins hands down....

A company is going to support something that their demographic will enjoy and will also use it to try to get new members in as well.

Not true. They'll support something that will get the message out about their product, or a spokesperson who actively uses their product and doesn't feel "false".

As microsoft is supporting justin bieber their goals are one of two things: 1) Showing their demograpic that they support what they're into(little kids like Justin Bieber) 2) Micosoft is trying to get more little kids to support their products.

Uh, bull. It's tween girls who like Justin Bieber. They also like Twilight and American Idol. Does Microsoft sponsor them?

Its not what they'll get attention for johnscott, it shows microsoft marketing to younger kids.

No, it shows them trying to gauge a market share that they currently don't have: 10-15 year old girls.

The PSP has a kid as a spokesman, but they even say that the PSP "is for big boy games".

So, Sony encourages kids to break laws regarding sales of content to minors? Oh wow. Not cool Sony.

halonachos wrote:Actually, big boy games varies person to person.

A 5 year old can buy a game with the ratings of ec, E, E 10+, or T. You have to 17 to buy M rated stuff, but then the parents usually buy it for their darling child anyways.

E10+ and T could be big boy games.

Also, Kanluwen you kind of agreed with me. Little girls are little kids, trying to get new members is the same as getting a message out or gauging the demographic. So you basically argued the specifics of my general statement, thank you for agreeing with me.

The "in your base, ignoring your logic" bit of your profile is very apt. It's like reasoning with a monkey, except the monkey can grasp simple concepts like marketing and ages.

When Sony says "big boy games", they immediately point to their PSP having things like a full length Metal Gear, a Resistance game, etc.
Those are both 'M'. Marcus, their spokesperson, is too young to play such things. That's exposing a minor to "harmful influences and themes". I'm surprised they've not been blasted for it, quite frankly.

10-15 years old, also, isn't "little kids". That's listed under "preteen/teen" in most demographic charts. There's a very big difference in the categories. And let's face it, with Kinect and their move to a more "family friendly" system coming this holiday season...they're trying to build up as much interest as they can in households they've got no install base in. Girls under 17, for the most part, don't want to play games curbstomping little Johnny's face in the ground, or beating up hookers. They want something that Microsoft currently has no way to gauge...but by supporting Bieber, they can at least get an interest generated in their upcoming product.

Something Sony's trying to do by having a "chance to win the new Sony Move before it's even out!", or by constantly mentioning it in every single press conference they've had.

So by your logic, Sony's still trying to sell stuff to little kids.

How is that different from Microsoft...?

So, you'd rather they pay some spokeskid to hawk their wares?

Interesting. Am kinda curious as to how you know Microsoft is supporting Justin Bieber's tour though. Wikipedia has no listing of sponsors for the tour, Microsoft doesn't have it anywhere that I'm seeing either.

Sony's a Japanese company, punkin. So he's a corporate shill for a foreign company.

At least Canada is America's hat, man.

So basically, it's okay for a Japanese company to be hiring American spokespeople for commercials(that will only air in America, mind you)...but an American company can't support a Canadian?

*sniffs the air*

I smell hypocrisy!

halonachos wrote:Yes, if Justin Bieber stayed in Canada I would have no issue with Microsoft supporting him.

You do realize that sponsoring a tour is not the same as a spokesperson, right?

halonachos wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:

halonachos wrote:Yes, if Justin Bieber stayed in Canada I would have no issue with Microsoft supporting him.

You do realize that sponsoring a tour is not the same as a spokesperson, right?

Yes I do, but do you realize that Microsoft is giving Justin Bieber the ability to come to our country by sponsoring him?

You do know that Justin Bieber, like any Canadian citizen, has the ability to come to our country right?
He's not on any terrorist watchlists, he can get a passport. It doesn't take Microsoft sponsorship to come to America from Canada. Really, it doesn't.

Just lock the thread, it's been stupid since the get-go.

And Konami has forsaken Sony, so what's your point?

Benjamin385 wrote:I look at the Playstation 3 Vs the Xbox 360

I would have to say this.

PS3

+ Free Multi player and Online
+ Internet Browser Built in
+ Bluray Discs Hold more content and Stuff than the Xbox 360s DVD

Not really.

+ PlayStation Network does not tolerate Hacking, Burned games, etc. (Sense of Security)

Tell that to the team of 10 people in my Killzone 2 match today who were somehow able to have no less than 30 Combat Drones up, per person, at all times.

+ Lots of games that are on the X360 are on the PS3 or coming to the PS3
+ You can put a Bigger hard drive in the PS3 (Standard Laptop Drive)
- Not all games have trophies/Achievements

Xbox 360

+ Large Library of games
- You can Modify your console to run Burned Games (Lack of Security)

You can run them, but any modifications are invalidated whenever new updates come up--and they permaban your console.

- You pay for the Online Component of the component

Yeah, and? I also don't have to rely on having a host with a 100% amazing connection or someone pulling the good old stand-by crap. Unlike PS3 games...

- RROD was never addressed in the new version of the 360 just the light moved to the Power Brick

Actually, it was. If you're stupid enough to let it get close to overheating(we're talking to where the components on the inside are getting burnt out), it shuts the console down. I'd say that's "addressed" the issue.

Other than the issue of the stupidity of some owners.

- The Price of Live is going up...

As is the available content. All(read that right: ALL) ESPN games available via the Xbox Marketplace, no matter your location. I pay $5 with my satellite provider to get any games that aren't locally available.

- Your Discs can be heavily Scratched just by moving the console

...So don't move the console with a game in it while the console is on?
This isn't rocket surgery. The same thing happens when moving a PS3.