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I recently got back from the Boy Scout National Jamboree (whoo 100 years of BSA), where GW actually had a stand. I personally never got over there, there was way too many activities, such as scuba, rapelling, bullwhips, mountain boarding, 50 cal rifles, ect. to do. However, some kids in my patrol gave me 4 free white dwarfs, because his brother had the same ones. For those who are interested, apparently they had a space marine statue outside of it, and it was near the merit badge midway.

So anyway, my point is that while reading these four magazines (they are my first white dwarfs), I have noticed some random spelling, grammatical, or other such errors. Has anyone ever noticed these before? For example, in one battle report (the "Battle Missions" one), the word "vein" was used instead of "vain", and some more complex phrases would have words left over from attempts to rewrite the sentence. Has anyone ever noticed these before? Are they more frequent as GW has to lay off people, such as editors?

Very off topic, but wasn't the Jamboree patch Dr. McNinja themed this year? If so, will you mail me yours?

Well I've read quite a few high calibre books that have had atrocious spelling mistakes. I wouldn't think much about the odd spelling or grammer mistakes.

Edit for the spelling as per below

GW has lots of problems with proofreading. Rynn's World had a major spelling error every other page. It was still a decent book though.

wizard12 wrote:Well I've read quite a few high calibre books that have had atrociuos spelling mistake. I wouldn't think much about the odd spelling or grammer mistake.

...nah, I'm not going to go there.

Yes, both White Dwarf and GW publications in general suffer from poor editing and/or faulty proofreading. It is annoying. Sadly, it is not limited to pubications from Games Workshop; I have noticed more and more errors in spelling, grammar and usage in written communications of all types, from newspapers to on-air television commercials. It is just a sign of the end times, that's all. Either people don't know they are making a mistake, which is sad; or they don't care, which is rude. Still, in a few years, when the stars are right and nameless horrors from beyond time and space tear through the walls of reality to eat our brains, it won't matter so much.

Brother SRM wrote:GW has lots of problems with proofreading. Rynn's World had a major spelling error every other page. It was still a decent book though.

No. No it was not.

And what's up with them not knowing how to spell color or armor or valor?

Kid_Kyoto wrote:

And what's up with them not knowing how to spell color or armor or valor?

I'm sorry, they win that one bsed on precedent.

At least they don't have to spell everything out in German.

/you're welcome
//WWII humor

Kid_Kyoto wrote:

Brother SRM wrote:GW has lots of problems with proofreading. Rynn's World had a major spelling error every other page. It was still a decent book though.

No. No it was not.

And what's up with them not knowing how to spell colour or armour or valour?

Arctik_Firangi wrote:

Kid_Kyoto wrote:

Brother SRM wrote:GW has lots of problems with proofreading. Rynn's World had a major spelling error every other page. It was still a decent book though.

No. No it was not.

And what's up with them not knowing how to spell colour or armour or valour?

Crazy Americans and their lazy-ish English.

Their spelling of Jail is cooler though, we got Gaol, it's like it was trying to be goal but was aborted halfway through.

fellblade wrote:

wizard12 wrote:Well I've read quite a few high calibre books that have had atrociuos spelling mistake. I wouldn't think much about the odd spelling or grammer mistake.

...nah, I'm not going to go there.

Yes, both White Dwarf and GW publications in general suffer from poor editing and/or faulty proofreading. It is annoying. Sadly, it is not limited to pubications from Games Workshop; I have noticed more and more errors in spelling, grammar and usage in written communications of all types, from newspapers to on-air television commercials. It is just a sign of the end times, that's all. Either people don't know they are making a mistake, which is sad; or they don't care, which is rude. Still, in a few years, when the stars are right and nameless horrors from beyond time and space tear through the walls of reality to eat our brains, it won't matter so much.

I won't go there either. It could get hairy

micahaphone wrote:For example, in one battle report (the "Battle Missions" one), the word "vein" was used instead of "vain"

what was the context of the word vein?

Well diffrent nations spell things diffrent.

American spelling isn't different, it's special.

Necroagogo wrote:

fellblade wrote:

wizard12 wrote:Well I've read quite a few high calibre books that have had atrociuos spelling mistake. I wouldn't think much about the odd spelling or grammer mistake.

...nah, I'm not going to go there.

Yes, both White Dwarf and GW publications in general suffer from poor editing and/or faulty proofreading. It is annoying. Sadly, it is not limited to pubications from Games Workshop; I have noticed more and more errors in spelling, grammar and usage in written communications of all types, from newspapers to on-air television commercials. It is just a sign of the end times, that's all. Either people don't know they are making a mistake, which is sad; or they don't care, which is rude. Still, in a few years, when the stars are right and nameless horrors from beyond time and space tear through the walls of reality to eat our brains, it won't matter so much.

I won't go there either. It could get hairy

Thus the explanation of why I don't mind the odd spelling/grammar mistake . It was late at night and I tend to lose brain function at that time. I'll go and edit now.

Goliath wrote:

micahaphone wrote:For example, in one battle report (the "Battle Missions" one), the word "vein" was used instead of "vain"

what was the context of the word vein?

As in 'my last ditch effort was in vein', which should be 'vain'. Despite the differences in spelling and terminology between the different forms of English, I'm pretty sure that the words vein and vain mean different things no matter where you are. As long as you brits are going to make fun of our spelling, I mind as well post this. I certainly enjoyed it.

http://simplicityitk.blogspot.com/2006/07/john-cleese-letter-to-america.html

I'm not sure if John Cleese ( of "monty python" fame) actually wrote this or not, but, hey, it's funny.

Necroagogo wrote:

fellblade wrote:

wizard12 wrote:Well I've read quite a few high calibre books that have had atrociuos spelling mistake. I wouldn't think much about the odd spelling or grammer mistake.

...nah, I'm not going to go there.

Yes, both White Dwarf and GW publications in general suffer from poor editing and/or faulty proofreading. It is annoying. Sadly, it is not limited to pubications from Games Workshop; I have noticed more and more errors in spelling, grammar and usage in written communications of all types, from newspapers to on-air television commercials. It is just a sign of the end times, that's all. Either people don't know they are making a mistake, which is sad; or they don't care, which is rude. Still, in a few years, when the stars are right and nameless horrors from beyond time and space tear through the walls of reality to eat our brains, it won't matter so much.

I won't go there either. It could get hairy

Well spotted! At least I caught "newpaper".
But if G. Bush can create "misunderestimate," and S. Palin can "refudiate," who's to say that "pubi-cations" is not an ironic mash-up to describe the poor quality of GW's printed material?

Yeah, that's it... I was being clever... .

I've done a lot of proofreading as part of my job before and it's an incredibly difficult skill. Typos and spelling errors are easy to pick up but thing's like vein/vain are definitely harder to spot. Some people have a talent for picking them straight out, but most can't as the brain reads what it expects to be there.

fellblade wrote:

Necroagogo wrote:

fellblade wrote:

wizard12 wrote:Well I've read quite a few high calibre books that have had atrociuos spelling mistake. I wouldn't think much about the odd spelling or grammer mistake.

...nah, I'm not going to go there.

Yes, both White Dwarf and GW publications in general suffer from poor editing and/or faulty proofreading. It is annoying. Sadly, it is not limited to pubications from Games Workshop; I have noticed more and more errors in spelling, grammar and usage in written communications of all types, from newspapers to on-air television commercials. It is just a sign of the end times, that's all. Either people don't know they are making a mistake, which is sad; or they don't care, which is rude. Still, in a few years, when the stars are right and nameless horrors from beyond time and space tear through the walls of reality to eat our brains, it won't matter so much.

I won't go there either. It could get hairy

Well spotted! At least I caught "newpaper".
But if G. Bush can create "misunderestimate," and S. Palin can "refudiate," who's to say that "pubi-cations" is not an ironic mash-up to describe the poor quality of GW's printed material?

Yeah, that's it... I was being clever... .

Someone getting 'wee wee'd' up?

fellblade wrote: Still, in a few years, when the stars are right and nameless horrors from beyond time and space tear through the walls of reality to eat our brains, it won't matter so much.

You rang?

OT - GW has always had terrible proofreading. It's a fact of life, like gravity or taxation.

When I worked for them, I made the comment that they could save a ton of money on the US versions by taking out the extraneous u's.

JFizzle51 wrote:Well diffrent nations spell things diffrent.

Very true. I've noticed the French are poor at spelling. A lot of their writings barely resemble English at all, if I'm frank about it.

Kilkrazy wrote: A lot of their writings barely resemble English at all, if I'm franc about it.

Fix'd.

WD has aways had dodgy proof-reading. They appear to be pathologically unable to differentiate between 'effect' and 'affect', and have been for years. I think it might actually be worse under the new editor.

micahaphone wrote:I recently got back from the Boy Scout National Jamboree (whoo 100 years of BSA), where GW actually had a stand. I personally never got over there, there was way too many activities, such as scuba, rapelling, bullwhips, mountain boarding, 50 cal rifles, ect. to do. However, some kids in my patrol gave me 4 free white dwarfs, because his brother had the same ones. For those who are interested, apparently they had a space marine statue outside of it, and it was near the merit badge midway.

So anyway, my point is that while reading these four magazines (they are my first white dwarfs), I have noticed some random spelling, grammatical, or other such errors. Has anyone ever noticed these before? For example, in one battle report (the "Battle Missions" one), the word "vein" was used instead of "vain", and some more complex phrases would have words left over from attempts to rewrite the sentence. Has anyone ever noticed these before? Are they more frequent as GW has to lay off people, such as editors?

I've been told that proof readers are hardly used anymore, that pretty much all proof reading is done by using spell check programmes. Heh, and of course the inbuilt spell check here considers programmes to be misspelt, but anyway....So long as a word exists in the programme's database it doesn't flag it as incorrect as it's not smart enough to pick up incorrect usage.
Using the word 'then' instead of 'than' or vice versa might be picked up if the programme includes a grammatical check as well, but sentences like: "The man came a bored the ship in the morning and went a sure at knight" would not be corrected. The spelling mistakes in that sentence are ones that I've come across while browsing the net.

Eneewa ti duznt mater becoz we cn orl undestand nelly nething by ur branes pwwr.

cadbren wrote:I've been told that proof readers are hardly used anymore...

Sadly true. My wife worked for a printers, and publishers signed stuff off all the time without checking it properly. The printers only print what you tell them to, they produce a proof, you correct it, and the printer prints it. Publishers cut corners on the correcting bit, they just sign it off. If they were lucky someone at the printers would spot a gross mistake and call the publishers to confirm a correction, but books were printed with spelling mistakes on the covers and that's purely the mistake of the publisher not proofreading.

On the thread in general, there's no point in blaming the editor. Editors don't proofread, that's not their job. The person to blame is whoever made the decision not to employ proofreaders. It's ridiculous that mistakes get through on their codexes, the monthly magazine, well ok.

Kilkrazy wrote:Eneewa ti duznt mater becoz we cn orl undestand nelly nething by ur branes pwwr.

Hey! Stop typing like the people who get mad at me for correcting them!

hungryp wrote:

Kid_Kyoto wrote:

And what's up with them not knowing how to spell color or armor or valor?

I'm sorry, they win that one bsed on precedent.

Point of information we yanks had our dictionary done (Websters) before they had their done (Oxford) so technically we were the first to codify the language.

We only call it English cause we feel bad for them.

The grammar erros annoy me less than the fact errors. For example they once stated somewhere in White Dwarf that Webster's dictionary was the first ever english dictionary. How dumb.