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Dear DakkaDakka, I have a friend who insists that I leave all of my paints over his house on a regular basis (about 40 paints). He doesn't own any paints himself, nor does he have any intention of buying any. This isn't a rare thing. He wants to keep them for long periods of time, even though he knows I have piles of miniatures and commissions to do.

Not to mention, he's messy. He spilled half of my chaos black, and gets little paint finger prints all over the pot. He's not the best painter either..

So what should I do dakka? I've got a lot of work to do, and not being able to paint is a real PITA.

So whats the problem.

You need your paints to take care of gak. Take them back.

Well put. I mean they are mine...why am i asking dakka

i think you should explain you need the paints and get them off him but how good a friend is he?

Dakka-dear-abby-dakka replies:
Dear Samus_aran115...
I think you should let your buddy in on the natural order of this hobby.
First you buy the Brushes, the primer, the glue and then the Paints. Once all of that is bought, THEN you buy the models. This is the proper ediquette of it.
Sure, Its cool to have a buddy that lends you things when in dire need, but that isn't a privilage that should be abused, as it seems to be happening here.
You need to impliment Mooch Prevention measures.
Perhaps you should look into charging him a rental fee for the paints, I.E. 25 cents Per paint Per day, (in advance of borrowing). At least this way you can still replenish the supplies he or she uses and seems unwilling to pay for.

A citadel pot costs $3.70, right?

What would you say to your friend if he insisted you give him $150?

Manchu wrote:A citadel pot costs $3.70, right?

What would you say to your friend if he insisted you give him $150?

This. I have all my paints (70+ GW & Reaper colors with brushes and additives) in a box that I take wherever I might have a chance ot paint and never mind sharing them if I happen to be painting at a FLGS, but someone borrowing them wholesale is going to be required to provide collateral for the $250+ that's invested there.

Get your friend one of those cheapy paint-by-number strips of paint jars if he doesn't have any paints of his own. They're good enough to get the job done, but dicey enough that he'll want to upgrade to something nicer.

Oh, and this is prolly in the wrong forum...

Here's what I would do. When his birthday comes around or Xmas or whatever, let him keep all the paints as your gift to him. Then get new paints for yourself.

Nyce!

If he has like $200 of paints, just make sure to get some of them back first before presenting him with his "early" Xmas Present.

Jeez, if you want them back, just take them back! It's a no-brainer really.

GROW SOME BALLS, MAN.

But seriously, they're yours: It's a no-brainer... It might be awkward but you're clearly being taken advantage of.

Henners, your suggestion is the one thing OP cannot do.

Your friend is a freeloading deadbeat. Tell him to buy his own paint. I let my friends use my paint if we're hanging out and painting minis together, but I wouldn't let people just use my stuff for extended periods of time without me around.

Manchu wrote:Henners, your suggestion is the one thing OP cannot do.

Heheh

Manchu wrote:
A citadel pot costs $3.70, right?

What would you say to your friend if he insisted you give him $150?

This. How good of a friend is this? Honestly, I'd have no problem with it if one of the people I consider good friends asked me for a couple hundred bucks. I owe those guys at least that much. I'd expect that would be spent on something important though, i.e. food/booze/rent/bills/emergency stuff. You know, the essentials. I might expect to get paid back eventually also, depending on the circumstances. Toy soldier color is not really one of those things.

Now, one of my friends has a bunch of colors, but he recently started IG, from starting small CSM and Ork armies. Obviously, he lacks a bunch of IG friendly paint, and does not have a giant Imperial bitzbox. In the interest of him not needing to buy a snakebite leather or delvan miracle (for example) when he doesn't need an entire pot of it and not having to go internet hunting for a spare tank widget, we have a deal worked out. He comes by my place (bolded for emphasis) when he feels like during the week after work, we hang out and paint some, and then once a week, he buys the beer. This helps balance things out, and in the event of any situation where there are paint spills, pots not fully closed after use, or super glue tragedy, the pain and suffering of it is lessened greatly. Accidents do happen, after all.

Bottom line though: It's YOUR property. Not his. Nothing is happening to it that you're not comfortable with. Make sure both you and he realize that.

What i find funny is he wont ask his friend for his paints back.

Yet he has no problem steeling models from other people.

What?

if you feel weird about asking for your paints back, you could go to the dollar store and get him a set of paints. this way he wouldnt have to ask you for yours again, and you wouldnt be "stealing" his only paint supply. all he really needs is red yellow blue black and white and a paintbrush. $6 later.... youre a good friend and you have your paints.

TheVacahaha wrote:if you feel weird about asking for your paints back, you could go to the dollar store and get him a set of paints. this way he wouldnt have to ask you for yours again, and you wouldnt be "stealing" his only paint supply. all he really needs is red yellow blue black and white and a paintbrush. $6 later.... youre a good friend and you have your paints.

This. He doesn't paint enough to care about quality anyway.

Friends are there to offer support when you need it. Friends are there for you to give support to when they need it.

Friends are there to make you feel glad to be around such great people, friends are to be welcomed and treasured. Don't forget you have chosen them to be your friend because you like them, you like their traits and how you share similar interests.
Your friend is your friend maybe because of the fact that you both like wargames and you share stories all day how you whooped someones ass despite his bragging. You're there for your friend to console him when he loses again and again to that bastard with the Necron phalanx. He is always there for you when you're down and need that ray of sunshine his face brings to your life and your heart.

Bollocks. He's crapping up your paints because he's too tight to buy his own and he knows you're weak, he knows you're feeble. Kick him in the face with your boot, take your paints back and get a proper friend.

Would you share your girlfriend? Or his mother? Thought not.

Elmodiddly wrote:Friends are there to offer support when you need it. Friends are there for you to give support to when they need it.

Friends are there to make you feel glad to be around such great people, friends are to be welcomed and treasured. Don't forget you have chosen them to be your friend because you like them, you like their traits and how you share similar interests.
Your friend is your friend maybe because of the fact that you both like wargames and you share stories all day how you whooped someones ass despite his bragging. You're there for your friend to console him when he loses again and again to that bastard with the Necron phalanx. He is always there for you when you're down and need that ray of sunshine his face brings to your life and your heart.

Bollocks. He's crapping up your paints because he's too tight to buy his own and he knows you're weak, he knows you're feeble. Kick him in the face with your boot, take your paints back and get a proper friend.

Would you share your girlfriend? Or his mother? Thought not.

Wow, what a manly statement. I agree. If he was painting something other than 2 piece cadians, I might let him borrow the paints Or if he was a little cleaner with his habits.

He's a close friend, so it was sort of wierd to ask him for the stuff back. I got it all back though (with a mess on them, of course) and he said he's going out to buy brushes..But no paint.wat.

probably the softest way to handle this is to buy him a couple of paint pots (you know, the ones he actually uses) and a new brush and go to his house, give him the stuff, and take back your own things while you're there.

Manchu wrote:Henners, your suggestion is the one thing OP cannot do.

In wargaming I wouldn't call it erroneous to make certain assumptions...

Hey Samus can I borrow your paints? Pretty Please...

I'll share my cookies....

I'll give you a cake if I can use your paints.

...But the cake is a lie. Of course.

At first I misread paints as pants.

This thread was much more hilarious and strange when it was pants

del'Vhar wrote:At first I misread paints as pants.

This thread was much more hilarious and strange when it was pants

I did the same thing.

yeah me to, I enjoyed the thought of random nerds asking to share someones pants, unfortunatly my brain ruined it by reading the post correctly! Stupid brain doing things properly!

glad to hear you got your paints back, sad to hear he's buying himself new brushes and not some paints. Try the invite to yours for painting modeling if you still want to share but keep them at your place.

Samus_aran115 wrote:Dear DakkaDakka, I have a friend who insists that I leave all of my paints over his house on a regular basis (about 40 paints). He doesn't own any paints himself, nor does he have any intention of buying any. This isn't a rare thing. He wants to keep them for long periods of time, even though he knows I have piles of miniatures and commissions to do.

Not to mention, he's messy. He spilled half of my chaos black, and gets little paint finger prints all over the pot. He's not the best painter either..

So what should I do dakka? I've got a lot of work to do, and not being able to paint is a real PITA.

Do this, immediately.



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Samus_aran115 wrote:

TheVacahaha wrote:if you feel weird about asking for your paints back, you could go to the dollar store and get him a set of paints. this way he wouldnt have to ask you for yours again, and you wouldnt be "stealing" his only paint supply. all he really needs is red yellow blue black and white and a paintbrush. $6 later.... youre a good friend and you have your paints.

This. He doesn't paint enough to care about quality anyway.

I second. Quit being a mangina now or expect to be treated like this the rest of your life. Go get your stuff.

If needed, watch the Godfather. Bring a bag full of doorknobs. You'll know what to do.


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Ah I see you grew a pair. Excellent.