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There was a brief discussion about this the other day amongst some colleagues and myself. Grant it, we were using the microcosm of a Grade 5 class in an elementary school, but it was interesting to see how the personalities of the students were exhibiting one or the other. Well, Dakka, which is it? Which is more important to you, being right or being happy?

Well, I'm an atheist, so clearly I'd rather be right than happy.

WELL KHORNHOLIO. Sometimes these two things are one and the same. I'm always happy to be right.

Yeah, i'm usually not too happy when i'm wrong, but if it's one or the other I definitely choose happiness.

Happy.

In this context anyway.

Gailbraithe wrote:Well, I'm an atheist, so clearly I'd rather be right than happy.

Pft! Nothing makes me happier than a nice long lie-in on a sunday morning! I can eat as much pork as I want, covet whatever I like, and I'm on my 14th year of sex before marriage!

We atheists have LOTS to be happy about! Hurrah!

Albatross wrote:

Gailbraithe wrote:Well, I'm an atheist, so clearly I'd rather be right than happy.

Pft! Nothing makes me happier than a nice long lie-in on a sunday morning! I can eat as much pork as I want, covet whatever I like, and I'm on my 14th year of sex before marriage!

We atheists have LOTS to be happy about! Hurrah!

Other than that whole "eternal damnation" thing you mean.

Meh, I'll just recant on my death-bed. Problem solved.

Until then it's graven images and adultery all the way, baby!

Vanity of vanities, saith the preacher . . .

Erm, I don't know what that means, so I'm just going to regurgitate some of Richard Dawkins' opinions.

Cool?

I'm very argumentative by nature. I struggle to be right, because it makes me happy. Usually, it's for the sake of others, not myself, so my arguments do not generally become megalomaniacal.

If I had to forgo being happy to be right, I would definitely do so.

Albatross wrote:Erm, I don't know what that means, so I'm just going to regurgitate some of Richard Dawkins' opinions.

Cool?

Nah, I already know what all that means.

Hey, we just had an OT religious debate in microcosm!

Ah, just like the old days . . .

Probably happy. I'd rather not argue if I don't have to, if that's where this thread is going...

Albatross wrote:

Gailbraithe wrote:Well, I'm an atheist, so clearly I'd rather be right than happy.

Pft! Nothing makes me happier than a nice long lie-in on a sunday morning! I can eat as much pork as I want, covet whatever I like, and I'm on my 14th year of sex before marriage!

We atheists have LOTS to be happy about! Hurrah!

You could just be a bad jew and do all of that.

Assuming this isn't some Faustian deal, where I vote "happy" and then the Devil says "you can't ever be happy without truth" and then I go to hell, I say "happy."

BrockRitcey wrote:

Albatross wrote:

Gailbraithe wrote:Well, I'm an atheist, so clearly I'd rather be right than happy.

Pft! Nothing makes me happier than a nice long lie-in on a sunday morning! I can eat as much pork as I want, covet whatever I like, and I'm on my 14th year of sex before marriage!

We atheists have LOTS to be happy about! Hurrah!

You could just be a bad jew and do all of that.

BAD JEW! NAUGHTY! Off the couch!

As an aside, I'm wondering how many of those who chose "right" are single and not married...hmmmm...

What were those lyrics again,

In a world where no one is wrong,
I'm never right.

I wanted to wait for a few responses before I answered my own poll. Happy. Being right is great, but not at the expense of positive vibes, dude.

Khornholio wrote:As an aside, I'm wondering how many of those who chose "right" are single and not married...hmmmm...

What were those lyrics again,

In a world where no one is wrong,
I'm never right.

I wanted to wait for a few responses before I answered my own poll. Happy. Being right is great, but not at the expense of positive vibes, dude.

Because even if you are right...

No one else gives a damn!

Monster Rain wrote:

Because even if you are right...

No one else gives a damn!

Agreement. As my wife would say, "exactry light".

I chose right because I stopped giving a crap what most people think as a philosophy more or less not too long ago. The problem is it's incredibly relative. It's like the whole fate vs. free will thing. If a father raises his son to be the world's greatest rock star by specifically denying him rock music and making it sound evil and therefore cool, and the son "rebels" and becomes the world's greatest rock star, was it the boy's fate influenced by his father or his free will that let him do what he wanted? It's both. I don't think you'll generally be wrong and be happy about it unless you're playing devil's advocate on something.

Cannerus_The_Unbearable wrote:I chose right because I stopped giving a crap what most people think as a philosophy more or less not too long ago. The problem is it's incredibly relative. It's like the whole fate vs. free will thing. If a father raises his son to be the world's greatest rock star by specifically denying him rock music and making it sound evil and therefore cool, and the son "rebels" and becomes the world's greatest rock star, was it the boy's fate influenced by his father or his free will that let him do what he wanted? It's both. I don't think you'll generally be wrong and be happy about it unless you're playing devil's advocate on something.

A person could be ignorant that they are wrong and thus be happy with their ideas that are "right".

Khornholio wrote:As an aside, I'm wondering how many of those who chose "right" are single and not married...hmmmm...

What were those lyrics again,

In a world where no one is wrong,
I'm never right.

I wanted to wait for a few responses before I answered my own poll. Happy. Being right is great, but not at the expense of positive vibes, dude.

It's all about the good vibes man

happy. Because I cannot function without happiness.....

Im all about the happy personally. I dont care THAT much if Im right or wrong.

Albatross wrote:

Gailbraithe wrote:Well, I'm an atheist, so clearly I'd rather be right than happy.

Pft! Nothing makes me happier than a nice long lie-in on a sunday morning! I can eat as much pork as I want, covet whatever I like, and I'm on my 14th year of sex before marriage!

We atheists have LOTS to be happy about! Hurrah!

The crushing existential despair as you realize that everything in existence is destined to be extinguished, and will all have, in its sum, been nought...that can be a real bitch.

Guilt free masturbation is definite plus though.

Ignorance is bliss, bliss is happiness.
I'd rather be right.
Who wants to be ignorant

Ignorance isn't the opposite of being right though.

whatwhat wrote:Ignorance isn't the opposite of being right though.

Whoa.......mark this as the FIRST time Ive ever agreed with whatwhat. I think its because Im sick.